Affirmative action. Right or wrong

[WelfareQueen]

If affirmative action for blacks is wrong, then assigning handicapped parking for handicapped people is also wrong.

Your analogy. We all know uber-liberals are the most racists political group since the KKK.

Telling blacks they are inferior and cannot compete is self-fulfilling. You give them little chance of progress.

This exactly captures it. As long as this mentality prevails blacks will always struggle to succeed.

 

[The Rabbi]

If affirmative action for blacks is wrong, then assigning handicapped parking for handicapped people is also wrong.

Your analogy. We all know uber-liberals are the most racists political group since the KKK.

Telling blacks they are inferior and cannot compete is self-fulfilling. You give them little chance of progress.

This exactly captures it. As long as this mentality prevails blacks will always struggle to succeed.

Abd the ones who do actually succeed are tainted with the question of whether they could have done it without AA.
It is typical of liberals to produce a program that makes things worse.

 

[ClosedCaption]

If affirmative action for blacks is wrong, then assigning handicapped parking for handicapped people is also wrong.

Your analogy. We all know uber-liberals are the most racists political group since the KKK.

Telling blacks they are inferior and cannot compete is self-fulfilling. You give them little chance of progress.

This exactly captures it. As long as this mentality prevails blacks will always struggle to succeed.

LOL....Maybe if you repeat this for another 40 years it might take hold

 

[Meathead]

Can you imagine how low the self-opinion of a black kid is when he is told by the likes of World Savior that he is handicapped? It is something which destines them for failure and is passed down through generations.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Can you imagine how low the self-opinion of a black kid is when he is told by the likes of World Savior that he is handicapped? It is something which destines them for failure and is passed down through generations.

Yes, black kids all over are distraught by the words of World Savior.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Can you imagine how low the self-opinion of a black kid is when he is told by the likes of World Savior that he is handicapped? It is something which destines them for failure and is passed down through generations.

Yes, that's the problem of course.
Why was AA deemed necessary in the first place? You all talk about AA as if there were no problems for women and minorities when seeking employment.

 

[Meathead]

Yes, black kids all over are distraught by the words of World Savior.

It would be a fair point as he is a nobody, but then he is not alone. Blacks obviously do not think blacks can compete in a meritocracy and liberals encourage their victimization.

Black = Handicapped. Figure it out yourself.

 

[World Savior]

The dumbest, stupidest, moronest (is that a word) cons on this forum once again prove that they do not understand what analogy means.

Here, if I said to my wife, honey you are sweet as honey, it does not mean I think of my wife as sweet liquid food.

Just as you dipshit racist right winger clowns are having a hard time understanding that using a handicapped parking space analogy to affirmative action does not mean I believe that minorities are handicapped.

But I am so glad that we all agree that minorities are victims of racism. Thank you RW racists for proving that not only do you support racism but you also show very little understanding of basic English language phrases and analogies, something you morons should have learned in school had you not been watching FUcks Nuse all day long to learn your hatred of minorities.

Remember morons, we have the 95% of minorities votes. We do not have to convince them we are on their side. You do. So keep fucking with your semantic gymnastics, may be in the next 2 million years at some point some minorities will begin voting for your party if you repeat your bullshit lies on Fucks Nuse enough times.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Yes, black kids all over are distraught by the words of World Savior.

It would be a fair point as he is a nobody, but then he is not alone. Blacks obviously do not think blacks can compete in a meritocracy and liberals encourage their victimization.

Black = Handicapped. Figure it out yourself.

You may be surprised to find out that black people know a little about being black. And since you have no experience what you believe doesnt matter. Just like when you're around your family and they walk away while you're talking

 

[PratchettFan]

There are different views on affirmative action in this country. One thing is certain though. It doesn't help to solve the problem of racial inequality in this country. On the contrary, the divide becomes even bigger thanks to the gifts from the government. Vicious circle works the following way:
1) Tell minorities they are being discriminated.
2) Promise them gifts and indulgence.
3) Bingo! They are now totally reliant on your help, yet believing everything in this country is against them.

Right and wrong are really non-issues here. The issue it was designed to deal with was clear discrimination and the prevention of minorities from progressing within our society. So the only two questions which matter are 1) has it been effective in attaining that goal and 2) if so, does it continue to be effective.

Poverty rates have gotten worse for blacks over the past 15 years.

The black middle class has grown a great deal since 1970 but has started to shrink in a big way under Obama (so has the white middle class).

Overall....the data regarding affirmative action doesn't look great.

If the purpose of AA was to develop a black middle class, then according to you it has been successful. Given the overall poverty rate in the US is 14.5%, it would appear blacks are on a par with everyone else.

 

[Meathead]

Yes, black kids all over are distraught by the words of World Savior.

It would be a fair point as he is a nobody, but then he is not alone. Blacks obviously do not think blacks can compete in a meritocracy and liberals encourage their victimization.

Black = Handicapped. Figure it out yourself.

You may be surprised to find out that black people know a little about being black. And since you have no experience what you believe doesnt matter. Just like when you're around your family and they walk away while you're talking

Blacks are told they are handicapped and obviously many believe it, as do you. That much I know.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Yes, black kids all over are distraught by the words of World Savior.

It would be a fair point as he is a nobody, but then he is not alone. Blacks obviously do not think blacks can compete in a meritocracy and liberals encourage their victimization.

Black = Handicapped. Figure it out yourself.

You may be surprised to find out that black people know a little about being black. And since you have no experience what you believe doesnt matter. Just like when you're around your family and they walk away while you're talking

Blacks are told they are handicapped and obviously many believe it, as do you. That much I know.

Funny that the only thing you know for sure is wrong

 

[Meathead]

Yes, black kids all over are distraught by the words of World Savior.

It would be a fair point as he is a nobody, but then he is not alone. Blacks obviously do not think blacks can compete in a meritocracy and liberals encourage their victimization.

Black = Handicapped. Figure it out yourself.

You may be surprised to find out that black people know a little about being black. And since you have no experience what you believe doesnt matter. Just like when you're around your family and they walk away while you're talking

Blacks are told they are handicapped and obviously many believe it, as do you. That much I know.

Funny that the only thing you know for sure is wrong

Oh, yeah?

Give me break. Take it up a notch and ask WS about his observation that you're handicapped.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

1) Tell minorities they are being discriminated.
2) Promise them gifts and indulgence.
3) Bingo! They are now totally reliant on your help, yet believing everything in this country is against them.

Steps on how to have this opinion.

Step1: Ignore discrimination. Preferably make it seem as if minorities are being taught discrimination is a problem. Not that they have ever experienced it themselves.

Step2: Pretend as if being treated fairly is a "gift" from whites that they dont have to extend to others

Step3: Bingo! Now your opinion is based on nothing other than "yer gut" since evidence has been thrown out the window

How is it "being treated fairly" to get preferential treatment? You understand the question, right?

What did we have before AA? Any preferential treatment then?

Well, if there was, how do you make things fair?

I guess by institutionalizing the soft bigotry of low expectations.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Yes, black kids all over are distraught by the words of World Savior.

It would be a fair point as he is a nobody, but then he is not alone. Blacks obviously do not think blacks can compete in a meritocracy and liberals encourage their victimization.

Black = Handicapped. Figure it out yourself.

You may be surprised to find out that black people know a little about being black. And since you have no experience what you believe doesnt matter. Just like when you're around your family and they walk away while you're talking

Blacks are told they are handicapped and obviously many believe it, as do you. That much I know.

Funny that the only thing you know for sure is wrong

Oh, yeah?

Give me break. Take it up a notch and ask WS about his observation that you're handicapped.

Thats ok, I just wanted you to know that you're wrong and hopefully you will avoid repeating it in the future

 

[WelfareQueen]

Can you imagine how low the self-opinion of a black kid is when he is told by the likes of World Savior that he is handicapped? It is something which destines them for failure and is passed down through generations.

Yes, that's the problem of course.
Why was AA deemed necessary in the first place? You all talk about AA as if there were no problems for women and minorities when seeking employment.

Who deemed it necessary and why?

 

[Uncensored2008]

There are different views on affirmative action in this country. One thing is certain though. It doesn't help to solve the problem of racial inequality in this country. On the contrary, the divide becomes even bigger thanks to the gifts from the government. Vicious circle works the following way:
1) Tell minorities they are being discriminated.
2) Promise them gifts and indulgence.
3) Bingo! They are now totally reliant on your help, yet believing everything in this country is against them.

Institutional racism is destructive and wrong - regardless of the name attached to it.

 

[Meathead]

Can you imagine how low the self-opinion of a black kid is when he is told by the likes of World Savior that he is handicapped? It is something which destines them for failure and is passed down through generations.

Yes, that's the problem of course.
Why was AA deemed necessary in the first place? You all talk about AA as if there were no problems for women and minorities when seeking employment.

Who deemed it necessary and why?

It was one of those ideas like desegregation busing for those of us old enough to remember that catastrophe. AA only survived because it was far less intrusive, but no more idiotic.

 

[Uncensored2008]

If affirmative action for blacks is wrong, then assigning handicapped parking for handicapped people is also wrong.

Ah, so you claim blacks are mentally handicapped and cannot gain school admission or jobs without the help of DNC Massahs?

Yeah, you're not a fucking racist....

 

[WelfareQueen]

There are different views on affirmative action in this country. One thing is certain though. It doesn't help to solve the problem of racial inequality in this country. On the contrary, the divide becomes even bigger thanks to the gifts from the government. Vicious circle works the following way:
1) Tell minorities they are being discriminated.
2) Promise them gifts and indulgence.
3) Bingo! They are now totally reliant on your help, yet believing everything in this country is against them.

Right and wrong are really non-issues here. The issue it was designed to deal with was clear discrimination and the prevention of minorities from progressing within our society. So the only two questions which matter are 1) has it been effective in attaining that goal and 2) if so, does it continue to be effective.

Poverty rates have gotten worse for blacks over the past 15 years.

The black middle class has grown a great deal since 1970 but has started to shrink in a big way under Obama (so has the white middle class).

Overall....the data regarding affirmative action doesn't look great.

If the purpose of AA was to develop a black middle class, then according to you it has been successful. Given the overall poverty rate in the US is 14.5%, it would appear blacks are on a par with everyone else.

Sorry...I posted the wrong graph. According to the Washington Post the current black poverty rate is 28%. That is 3X as high as whites or asians.

Again....the Democrat War on Poverty.....after trillions of dollars....is an abject failure. Ditto Affirmation Action.

I would encourage you to read the info from the attached link. Very informative.

Key Quote: "In 2011, 27.6 percent of black households were in poverty — nearly triple the poverty rate for whites."

These ten charts show the black-white economic gap hasn t budged in 50 years - The Washington Post