AG Barr: “Very Unusual Situation to Have Opposition Research” – to Conduct Counter Intelligence

[AntonToo]

Evidence that Obama was corrupt?? Just list the indictments and convictions. Same for the Clintons. Indictments and convictions for them and their staff.

Now do the same for Trump. Racism, fraud, illegal campaign contributions, all documented and proven. People are in jail for following Trump’s directions. If Trump weren’t the President, he’d be under indictment right now.

As for Strzok, those were private conversations. Not policy and not indicative of their work. Not to mention that Strzok was removed from the investigation when Mueller saw the texts, just 8 weeks into the investigation, and weeks before the texts were made public.

LOL...lets see. You say Trump is racist. Convictions and indictments? What about illegal campaign contributions?

Dummy what the fuck do you think Trump's lawyer named Cohen went to jail for?

Trump is essentially an unindicted co-conspirator in that case and would be going to jail right along with Cohne if it wan't for the fact that he is a sitting president.

No, he didn't go to jail for that, but the prosecutor put it in his plea agreement so dirt bags like you could claim he did.

What did he go to jail for?

Cohen pleaded guilty to failure to report personal income taxes for the five-year period beginning in 2012. He also admitted to making false statements to a financial institution tied to a credit decision around February 2015, to willfully causing an unlawful corporate contribution from at least June 2016 to October 2016,

He also plead guilty to secretly paying women off on behalf of Trump to help his campaign, thereby violating campaign finance laws.

Right?

 

[jc456]

AG Barr has no credibility. He is a corrupt hack and a joke.

you act as if you know the man. hmmmmmm that's odd.

 

[Markle]

You are alleging those applications were "rubber stamped" instead of processed with due and normal diligence by that organization.

The information to the FISA court, as you well know, contained blatant lies. The information submitted to the court was sworn to be true by the applicants. What other information is the court supposed to consider? Nothing. All they have is what is submitted to them, are you saying they should allow their biases and opinions to influence their decision and not only the facts provided to them?

 

[koshergrl]

I've lied about nothing.
I'm stating known facts. You're in the Q-tard fantasy zone.

The point is that the renewals continued after the warrant was known and criticized publicly. Obviously the applications withstood scrutiny, were approved and were productive.

What scrutiny did the applications withstand? Those submitting the applications swear that all the information is true. So, KNOWING the information was not true, the applicants, nonetheless, swore that it was true. That is illegal.

Not true. You are making that up to support your conspiracy theory. Believing something is true or probably true or even " may be true" is sufficient as long as the level of probability is provided to the judge, which in this case, was.

Bwuhahahahaha.......

You're actually trying to make the argument that it was LEGAL for the conspirators to lie and withhold evidence from the FISA Court........

The more time goes by without a Trump Impeachment the more and more snowflakes lose their damn minds...

nobody takes the right wing seriously.

The dossier is actually a series of reports—16 in all—that total 35 pages. Written in 2016, the dossier is a collection of raw intelligence. Steele neither evaluated nor synthesized the intelligence. He neither made nor rendered bottom-line judgments. The dossier is, quite simply and by design, raw reporting, not a finished intelligence product.

Oh I think some do...

Barr Assigns U.S. Attorney in Connecticut to Review Origins of Russia Inquiry

 

[Hutch Starskey]

You are alleging those applications were "rubber stamped" instead of processed with due and normal diligence by that organization.

The information to the FISA court, as you well know, contained blatant lies. The information submitted to the court was sworn to be true by the applicants. What other information is the court supposed to consider? Nothing. All they have is what is submitted to them, are you saying they should allow their biases and opinions to influence their decision and not only the facts provided to them?

Which lies were those?

 

[task0778]

When you ask for a FISA warrant to investigate (spy) on any American citizen, let alone a presidential nominee and/or his campaign, you gotta have solid evidence that has been verified. Yet the DOJ/FBI had NOTHING but the Steele Dossier and news reports that were based on that dossier, and that is not supposed to be the way our gov't agencies work. To this day, nothing substantial in that dossier has been verified, otherwise you can be sure the Mueller investigation would have said so in the report; for Christ sakes, they used Russian freakin' agents as sources! So, who really collaborated with the Russians? We now know it wasn't Trump or his campaign, but it's beginning to look like the DNC and the Clinton campaign might have, indirectly.

The investigation was ongoing before The dossier was even presented!

What are you saying, MA? The FBI started the investigation (spying) on the Trump campaign before they got a warrant to do so from the FISA court? That's what I was talking about, the FISA warrant that was obtained based on unverified data from Russian sources in a Dossier that was basically opposition research, i.e., a hit piece. Anybody want to tell us which part of the FISA warrant was verified BEFORE it went to the FISA Court? Anybody want to tell us what else the FBI/DOJ had in the way of verified evidence that was not directly or indirectly based on that Dossier? Uh-huh, right: nada, zip, zilch. And if there was something, don't you think we'd know about it by now?

So, do we want to have the FBI/DOJ spying on us without verified probable cause for political purposes? Or do we want it only if the subject of the investigation is a Republican?

I am saying exactly what I posted! The investigation,( not spying, as you are quoting Trump and Barr ,) was started before the Dossier was even turned over. I try to check facts before posting. See for yourself.

Dossier Not What 'Started All of This' - FactCheck.org

You responded to my post which was NOT referring to the beginning on the Collusion investigation but instead was about the Steele Dossier that was used as almost solely the basis of the FISA warrant to SPY on the Trump campaign. At the time the information in that Dossier was unverified as Comey himself testified before Congress 10 months later, but the DOJ/FBI presented their warrant application as VERIFIED. And that stinks.

 

[danielpalos]

You are alleging those applications were "rubber stamped" instead of processed with due and normal diligence by that organization.

The information to the FISA court, as you well know, contained blatant lies. The information submitted to the court was sworn to be true by the applicants. What other information is the court supposed to consider? Nothing. All they have is what is submitted to them, are you saying they should allow their biases and opinions to influence their decision and not only the facts provided to them?

You mean this part:

The dossier is actually a series of reports—16 in all—that total 35 pages. Written in 2016, the dossier is a collection of raw intelligence. Steele neither evaluated nor synthesized the intelligence. He neither made nor rendered bottom-line judgments. The dossier is, quite simply and by design, raw reporting, not a finished intelligence product.

 

[danielpalos]

I've lied about nothing.
I'm stating known facts. You're in the Q-tard fantasy zone.

The point is that the renewals continued after the warrant was known and criticized publicly. Obviously the applications withstood scrutiny, were approved and were productive.

What scrutiny did the applications withstand? Those submitting the applications swear that all the information is true. So, KNOWING the information was not true, the applicants, nonetheless, swore that it was true. That is illegal.

Not true. You are making that up to support your conspiracy theory. Believing something is true or probably true or even " may be true" is sufficient as long as the level of probability is provided to the judge, which in this case, was.

Bwuhahahahaha.......

You're actually trying to make the argument that it was LEGAL for the conspirators to lie and withhold evidence from the FISA Court........

The more time goes by without a Trump Impeachment the more and more snowflakes lose their damn minds...

nobody takes the right wing seriously.

The dossier is actually a series of reports—16 in all—that total 35 pages. Written in 2016, the dossier is a collection of raw intelligence. Steele neither evaluated nor synthesized the intelligence. He neither made nor rendered bottom-line judgments. The dossier is, quite simply and by design, raw reporting, not a finished intelligence product.

Oh I think some do...

Barr Assigns U.S. Attorney in Connecticut to Review Origins of Russia Inquiry

crony capitalism at its finest?

 

[bripat9643]

LOL...lets see. You say Trump is racist. Convictions and indictments? What about illegal campaign contributions?

Dummy what the fuck do you think Trump's lawyer named Cohen went to jail for?

Trump is essentially an unindicted co-conspirator in that case and would be going to jail right along with Cohne if it wan't for the fact that he is a sitting president.

No, he didn't go to jail for that, but the prosecutor put it in his plea agreement so dirt bags like you could claim he did.

What did he go to jail for?

Cohen pleaded guilty to failure to report personal income taxes for the five-year period beginning in 2012. He also admitted to making false statements to a financial institution tied to a credit decision around February 2015, to willfully causing an unlawful corporate contribution from at least June 2016 to October 2016,

He also plead guilty to secretly paying women off on behalf of Trump to help his campaign, thereby violating campaign finance laws.

Right?

That wasn't even a crime. It wasn't a campaign donation, moron.

 

[Markle]

oppo. research is not illegal. and, a regime exists to vet information for use to deny and disparage Individual Liberty.

You're 100% right! Opposition research is not illegal!

Using our intelligence agencies to gather that information is illegal. That is, as AG Barr stated, spying. This, as you know, is one of the reasons Progressives and Democrats are in such a panic. The three years of investigations have gone full circle and are zeroing in on...Democrats.

 

[danielpalos]

When you ask for a FISA warrant to investigate (spy) on any American citizen, let alone a presidential nominee and/or his campaign, you gotta have solid evidence that has been verified. Yet the DOJ/FBI had NOTHING but the Steele Dossier and news reports that were based on that dossier, and that is not supposed to be the way our gov't agencies work. To this day, nothing substantial in that dossier has been verified, otherwise you can be sure the Mueller investigation would have said so in the report; for Christ sakes, they used Russian freakin' agents as sources! So, who really collaborated with the Russians? We now know it wasn't Trump or his campaign, but it's beginning to look like the DNC and the Clinton campaign might have, indirectly.

The investigation was ongoing before The dossier was even presented!

What are you saying, MA? The FBI started the investigation (spying) on the Trump campaign before they got a warrant to do so from the FISA court? That's what I was talking about, the FISA warrant that was obtained based on unverified data from Russian sources in a Dossier that was basically opposition research, i.e., a hit piece. Anybody want to tell us which part of the FISA warrant was verified BEFORE it went to the FISA Court? Anybody want to tell us what else the FBI/DOJ had in the way of verified evidence that was not directly or indirectly based on that Dossier? Uh-huh, right: nada, zip, zilch. And if there was something, don't you think we'd know about it by now?

So, do we want to have the FBI/DOJ spying on us without verified probable cause for political purposes? Or do we want it only if the subject of the investigation is a Republican?

I am saying exactly what I posted! The investigation,( not spying, as you are quoting Trump and Barr ,) was started before the Dossier was even turned over. I try to check facts before posting. See for yourself.

Dossier Not What 'Started All of This' - FactCheck.org

You responded to my post which was NOT referring to the beginning on the Collusion investigation but instead was about the Steele Dossier that was used as almost solely the basis of the FISA warrant to SPY on the Trump campaign. At the time the information in that Dossier was unverified as Comey himself testified before Congress 10 months later, but the DOJ/FBI presented their warrant application as VERIFIED. And that stinks.

You mean this information?

The dossier is actually a series of reports—16 in all—that total 35 pages. Written in 2016, the dossier is a collection of raw intelligence. Steele neither evaluated nor synthesized the intelligence. He neither made nor rendered bottom-line judgments. The dossier is, quite simply and by design, raw reporting, not a finished intelligence product.

 

[koshergrl]

What scrutiny did the applications withstand? Those submitting the applications swear that all the information is true. So, KNOWING the information was not true, the applicants, nonetheless, swore that it was true. That is illegal.

Not true. You are making that up to support your conspiracy theory. Believing something is true or probably true or even " may be true" is sufficient as long as the level of probability is provided to the judge, which in this case, was.

Bwuhahahahaha.......

You're actually trying to make the argument that it was LEGAL for the conspirators to lie and withhold evidence from the FISA Court........

The more time goes by without a Trump Impeachment the more and more snowflakes lose their damn minds...

nobody takes the right wing seriously.

The dossier is actually a series of reports—16 in all—that total 35 pages. Written in 2016, the dossier is a collection of raw intelligence. Steele neither evaluated nor synthesized the intelligence. He neither made nor rendered bottom-line judgments. The dossier is, quite simply and by design, raw reporting, not a finished intelligence product.

Oh I think some do...

Barr Assigns U.S. Attorney in Connecticut to Review Origins of Russia Inquiry

crony capitalism at its finest?

You poor mentally ill rube.

I hope that after your heroes are in prison and Trump is into his second term, that building new nuthouses takes front stage. So we can place dangerous and obviously unhinged lunatics like you where you belong. Where you will be safe, and we will be safe from your maniacal posturing and attacks.

 

[danielpalos]

oppo. research is not illegal. and, a regime exists to vet information for use to deny and disparage Individual Liberty.

You're 100% right! Opposition research is not illegal!

Using our intelligence agencies to gather that information is illegal. That is, as AG Barr stated, spying. This, as you know, is one of the reasons Progressives and Democrats are in such a panic. The three years of investigations have gone full circle and are zeroing in on...Democrats.

you imply that was the only information provided for the application.

 

[koshergrl]

oppo. research is not illegal. and, a regime exists to vet information for use to deny and disparage Individual Liberty.

You're 100% right! Opposition research is not illegal!

Using our intelligence agencies to gather that information is illegal. That is, as AG Barr stated, spying. This, as you know, is one of the reasons Progressives and Democrats are in such a panic. The three years of investigations have gone full circle and are zeroing in on...Democrats.

And their minions who pretend to be members of the free press, but are actually just spies and propagandists.

 

[danielpalos]

Not true. You are making that up to support your conspiracy theory. Believing something is true or probably true or even " may be true" is sufficient as long as the level of probability is provided to the judge, which in this case, was.

Bwuhahahahaha.......

You're actually trying to make the argument that it was LEGAL for the conspirators to lie and withhold evidence from the FISA Court........

The more time goes by without a Trump Impeachment the more and more snowflakes lose their damn minds...

nobody takes the right wing seriously.

The dossier is actually a series of reports—16 in all—that total 35 pages. Written in 2016, the dossier is a collection of raw intelligence. Steele neither evaluated nor synthesized the intelligence. He neither made nor rendered bottom-line judgments. The dossier is, quite simply and by design, raw reporting, not a finished intelligence product.

Oh I think some do...

Barr Assigns U.S. Attorney in Connecticut to Review Origins of Russia Inquiry

crony capitalism at its finest?

You poor mentally ill rube.

I hope that after your heroes are in prison and Trump is into his second term, that building new nuthouses takes front stage. So we can place dangerous and obviously unhinged lunatics like you where you belong. Where you will be safe, and we will be safe from your maniacal posturing and attacks.

Your guy is "riding on Obama's coat economic coat tails."

A testament to Obama's economy than Your guy's economy. What actual free market policies has the right wing implemented; trade wars and tariffs? We are doing well in spite of Your guy's policies.

 

[easyt65]

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Barr Assigns U.S. Attorney in Connecticut to Review Origins of Russia Inquiry

THIS is what has Clapper, Brennan, Baker, Rosenstein, and Comey pointing fingers and trying to throw each other under the bus...and why Barry has remained silent....

None of these guys have ever been truly religious, but they are wearing out the knees of their suit pants kneeling and groveling, praying to whoever that the US IG somehow does them a 'solid' by reporting their actions were 'Non-Standard', 'untraditional', 'out of the ordinary', and anything else but 'ILLEGAL', 'CRIMINAL', etc...

God help them if the US IG comes up with criminal findings and recommends any of them for indictment....

You think you see finger-pointing NOW?! The race will be on to see who screws the others 1st by cutting a deal......

ROFLOL!

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Dummy what the fuck do you think Trump's lawyer named Cohen went to jail for?

Trump is essentially an unindicted co-conspirator in that case and would be going to jail right along with Cohne if it wan't for the fact that he is a sitting president.

No, he didn't go to jail for that, but the prosecutor put it in his plea agreement so dirt bags like you could claim he did.

What did he go to jail for?

Cohen pleaded guilty to failure to report personal income taxes for the five-year period beginning in 2012. He also admitted to making false statements to a financial institution tied to a credit decision around February 2015, to willfully causing an unlawful corporate contribution from at least June 2016 to October 2016,

He also plead guilty to secretly paying women off on behalf of Trump to help his campaign, thereby violating campaign finance laws.

Right?

That wasn't even a crime. It wasn't a campaign donation, moron.

That wasn't even a crime. It wasn't a campaign donation, moron.

Here are the charges Trump's ex-lawyer Michael Cohen admitted to in federal court

Excessive campaign contributions
Prosecutors charged Cohen with making an excessive campaign contribution on Oct. 27, 2016.

Number of counts: 1

Maximum prison sentence per count: 5 years
Maximum term of supervised release per count: 3 years
Maximum fine per count: $250,000, and a $100 mandatory special assessment

 

[Hutch Starskey]

oppo. research is not illegal. and, a regime exists to vet information for use to deny and disparage Individual Liberty.

You're 100% right! Opposition research is not illegal!

Using our intelligence agencies to gather that information is illegal. That is, as AG Barr stated, spying. This, as you know, is one of the reasons Progressives and Democrats are in such a panic. The three years of investigations have gone full circle and are zeroing in on...Democrats.

You're 100% right! Opposition research is not illegal!

Using our intelligence agencies to gather that information is illegal.

LOL...
Now your claiming our intel agencies did oppo research for Clinton?

You are a lunatic.

 

[AntonToo]

Dummy what the fuck do you think Trump's lawyer named Cohen went to jail for?

Trump is essentially an unindicted co-conspirator in that case and would be going to jail right along with Cohne if it wan't for the fact that he is a sitting president.

No, he didn't go to jail for that, but the prosecutor put it in his plea agreement so dirt bags like you could claim he did.

What did he go to jail for?

Cohen pleaded guilty to failure to report personal income taxes for the five-year period beginning in 2012. He also admitted to making false statements to a financial institution tied to a credit decision around February 2015, to willfully causing an unlawful corporate contribution from at least June 2016 to October 2016,

He also plead guilty to secretly paying women off on behalf of Trump to help his campaign, thereby violating campaign finance laws.

Right?

That wasn't even a crime. It wasn't a campaign donation, moron.

As per Cohen (and just plain ol' common sense) the goal of the payments was VERY SPECIFICALLY to prevent those women from talking and damaging Trump's campaign.

It was 100% a campaign donation.

 

[danielpalos]

oppo. research is not illegal. and, a regime exists to vet information for use to deny and disparage Individual Liberty.

You're 100% right! Opposition research is not illegal!

Using our intelligence agencies to gather that information is illegal. That is, as AG Barr stated, spying. This, as you know, is one of the reasons Progressives and Democrats are in such a panic. The three years of investigations have gone full circle and are zeroing in on...Democrats.

You're 100% right! Opposition research is not illegal!

Using our intelligence agencies to gather that information is illegal.

LOL...
Now your claiming our intel agencies did oppo research for Clinton?

You are a lunatic.

the right wing would have us believe that organization was being frivolous in their office of public trust.