Almost half of Americans work in low paid jobs


First of all thats Calipornia.
Second these are company's run by the radical leftist you adore so much.
In a right to work state non compete holds water like a sieve.
To bad for you dumbass.
I the real world a company won’t hire from a company they know has a non compete.

Maybe in your yankee world.
Not in my right to work state.
Your ignorance saves you again. Just like the global warming hoax, the rich paying too much in taxes. Whatever you do don't look into it LOL...
 

First of all thats Calipornia.
Second these are company's run by the radical leftist you adore so much.
In a right to work state non compete holds water like a sieve.
To bad for you dumbass.
I the real world a company won’t hire from a company they know has a non compete.

Maybe in your yankee world.
Not in my right to work state.
Lots of non competes in right to work states. You are funny.

Never had to sign one.
Although my brother did and it was laughed out of court with his previous company paying all court costs and attorney fees.
 
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That appears to be through the first term of failed former President Barack Hussein Obama.

Frankly, I'm surprised that you agree that he was such a failure. You're making progress! Good for you!
 
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And the lowest paid workers are getting the highest wage increases in the Trump economy.

Seems to contradict the leftist fairy tale that only the rich benefited from Trump's tax cuts.

Trump lies. Do not believe him.

It is true that inflation-adjusted wages (average weekly for production and nonsupervisory workers) peaked in February 1973 at $345.95, and then fluctuated but generally declined, hitting a low point of $263.73 in January 1996. They have again fluctuated since, but they’ve been on a general upward trend. They have increased 2.4% since Trump took office, from an average $308.21 per week to $315.74 per week in May, the most recent figures available from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Technical note: All wage figures cited in this story from BLS are calculated in 1982-84 dollars – not current 2019 dollars.

During Obama’s last four years in office the average weekly earnings for production and nonsupervisory workers went up 4.9%. Over Obama’s entire two-term tenure, wages were up 4.2%.

Over President George W. Bush’s eight years in office, wages also increased by 4.2%, and under President Bill Clinton, they went up by 6.4%. (Real average weekly earnings for all private sector employees, including supervisors, shows a similar trend, though BLS only has published statistics going back to 2006. Those figures are up 2.3% under Trump, 3.9% under Obama’s second term and 4% over his eight years in office.)
Are Wages Rising or Flat?

It is cool the way you cite an average wage number, to counter Diva's point about low end wages.

For a liberal, that was a pretty good argument. YOu actually were on a related issue. You managed to refrain from calling some one a racist, for one post in a row.

And that is all we can expect from you. You should knock off for the day. You don't want to over do it.
What's cool is that I have facts and links while Diva just spouts what Fox told her to say. Here's more...

The faster growth at the bottom is probably being fueled in part by recent minimum-wage increases in cities and states across the country. Research from the Economic Policy Institute, a liberal-leaning think tank, found that over the past five years, wages for low-wage workers rose 13 percent in states that raised their minimum wages, compared with 8.4 percent in states that did not.

But minimum wages are only part of the story. Ernie Tedeschi, an economist at Evercore ISI, estimates that the minimum-wage increases account for a quarter to a third of low-wage workers’ gains over the past three years. The rest is most likely a result of a tightening labor market that is forcing employers to raise pay even for workers at the bottom of the earnings ladder.

Ms. Gimbel noted that better-paying industries had experienced faster job growth in recent months, while the fastest wage growth had been in lower-paying industries. That could indicate that sectors like health care and manufacturing are snapping up workers, forcing retailers and restaurants to raise pay to compete.

Still, not everyone is benefiting equally. African-American workers have seen smaller gains over the course of the recovery, for example. And wage growth remains slow in some parts of the country that were hit especially hard by the recession.​


Exactly!


Deporting illegals, and increased border security, is reducing the labor pool, forcing employers to compete for workers.


It is giving power to the workers, vs management. It is GREAT.


I am surprised that African Americans had seen smaller gains. I would think that with this type of trend that they would benefit MORE.


Regardless, we see something that is WORKING, so IMO, the obvious thing to do, is DO MORE OF THAT.


Lets deport ALLF THE FUCKING ILLEGALS.


Lets build the fucking wall and seal the fucking border!


I would like to see those wages keep rising, for, while, forever to tell you the truth.
 
"Almost half of Americans work in low paid jobs"

The remaining half of the minimum wage earner is being overpaid. :)
Employers make a profit off of every worker


And if they didn't they wouldn't be in business. When I had my construction company, I told everyone I hired, if they couldn't make me money, I didn't need them. It isn't rocket science.

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American CEOs claim to be rare. But they are no more rare than CEOs in international corporations. Yet, they are paid significantly higher.

Over the last three decades, American CEOs have seen significant increases in their compensation. Yet, American companies have not done significantly better
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So what does employees pay have to do with what a CEO makes? It's totally irrelevant.
Not really
It relates to the distribution of company profit.
The workers used to get a larger slice of the pie. The amount of profit that goes to workers has decreased, while the amount going to executive compensation has increased

After enough time, corporations realized it was not a successful plan. Paying workers more money does not equal greater profit. Paying a CEO more money does.
If you pay workers the productivity goes up. Not to mention demand for product. Worst inequality and upward Mobility ever means something.
If you pay workers the productivity goes up. Not to mention demand for product.
If you pay workers the productivity goes up. quite possible also true if you pay workers piecemeal.
How does that even effect the demand for the product? There is no correlation between the two
When people have money, they buy things. That is called demand. Right now 78% of American families live paycheck-to-paycheck. Great job! This is the GOP economy, a give away to the rich and a screw job for everybody else. Wake up and smell the coffee super dupe.
 
Shows how hollow the Trump economy is

Almost half of Americans work in low-wage jobs

America's unemployment rate is at a half-century low, but it also has a job-quality problem that affects nearly half the population, with a study finding 44% of U.S. workers are employed in low-wage jobs that pay median annual wages of $18,000.

Contrary to popular opinion, these workers aren't teenagers or young adults just starting their careers,

Ok, what would Democrats’ plan be to change that? They WANT to eliminate the Trump tax cuts but how will they do that and keep UE low while raising wages?

This article and your share of it is simply class warfare. It accomplishes nothing except for those vested into transforming this Nation into yet another failed Socialist country.
Is it class warfare to point out a growing disconnect between the compensation of workers and the profits of employers?


No, it is class warfare to pretend it is a some evil plan of the rich, that just started under the new rich guy,


while ignoring the actual causes that go back to the early 70s.



You could lynch Trump and implement your socialist utopia, and the trends would not change in the slightest.
It is an evil plan of the rich

Maintain a lowly paid workforce that is afraid to lose their jobs
Abolish unions and make each employee fend for themselves


Agreed. I am surprised to hear you say that.

So, you support deporting all the illegals, and banning all Third World immigration for the next 50 years, to start, and building the fucking wall to seal the fucking border, so that the labor pool is NOT the whole of the fucking Third World.


Good. I'm glad to see you showing some sense.


So, MMMM, who is pushing back against that evil plan? MMMMM?


Inquiring minds want to know.
 
So what does employees pay have to do with what a CEO makes? It's totally irrelevant.
Not really
It relates to the distribution of company profit.
The workers used to get a larger slice of the pie. The amount of profit that goes to workers has decreased, while the amount going to executive compensation has increased

After enough time, corporations realized it was not a successful plan. Paying workers more money does not equal greater profit. Paying a CEO more money does.
If you pay workers the productivity goes up. Not to mention demand for product. Worst inequality and upward Mobility ever means something.

No it doesnt.
Giving pay raises to those who make the company more profitable does.
Your love and admiration for greedy idiot scumbag carpetbagging CEOs is noted, brainwashed functional moron. The worst inequality ever anywhere and the worst upward Mobility mean something for crying out loud. Dupe skull is the thickest material known to man....

Why do you rely on others to make your fortune?
Me? I worked hard and was at the top of my industry pay grade.
I then invested wisely to supplement that income.
So what did you do with your free time? Polish the peter?
 
So what does employees pay have to do with what a CEO makes? It's totally irrelevant.
Not really
It relates to the distribution of company profit.
The workers used to get a larger slice of the pie. The amount of profit that goes to workers has decreased, while the amount going to executive compensation has increased

After enough time, corporations realized it was not a successful plan. Paying workers more money does not equal greater profit. Paying a CEO more money does.
If you pay workers the productivity goes up. Not to mention demand for product. Worst inequality and upward Mobility ever means something.
If you pay workers the productivity goes up. Not to mention demand for product.
If you pay workers the productivity goes up. quite possible also true if you pay workers piecemeal.
How does that even effect the demand for the product? There is no correlation between the two
When people have money, they buy things. That is called demand. Right now 78% of American families live paycheck-to-paycheck. Great job! This is the GOP economy, a give away to the rich and a screw job for everybody else. Wake up and smell the coffee super dupe.

Got a link for that?
If true there's way more morons in this country than I ever imagined.
 
Answer the question.

What some CEO makes has never had any effect on what I can make and I daresay that is true for most people
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Prove to me that lowering ceo pay will result in higher wages for employees

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When CEO pay is lower, the company can pay the workers more. Do you want a diagram?
What can happen and what does or will happen are not the same

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Exact opposite of what history tells us.
Prove that if a ceo takes a forced pay cut that employees at that company will get a raise

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So what does employees pay have to do with what a CEO makes? It's totally irrelevant.
Not really
It relates to the distribution of company profit.
The workers used to get a larger slice of the pie. The amount of profit that goes to workers has decreased, while the amount going to executive compensation has increased

After enough time, corporations realized it was not a successful plan. Paying workers more money does not equal greater profit. Paying a CEO more money does.
If you pay workers the productivity goes up. Not to mention demand for product. Worst inequality and upward Mobility ever means something.
If you pay workers the productivity goes up. Not to mention demand for product.
If you pay workers the productivity goes up. quite possible also true if you pay workers piecemeal.
How does that even effect the demand for the product? There is no correlation between the two
When people have money, they buy things. That is called demand. Right now 78% of American families live paycheck-to-paycheck. Great job! This is the GOP economy, a give away to the rich and a screw job for everybody else. Wake up and smell the coffee super dupe.
Yeah they live paycheck to paycheck but still buy all kinds of stuff they don't need

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Not really
It relates to the distribution of company profit.
The workers used to get a larger slice of the pie. The amount of profit that goes to workers has decreased, while the amount going to executive compensation has increased

After enough time, corporations realized it was not a successful plan. Paying workers more money does not equal greater profit. Paying a CEO more money does.
If you pay workers the productivity goes up. Not to mention demand for product. Worst inequality and upward Mobility ever means something.
If you pay workers the productivity goes up. Not to mention demand for product.
If you pay workers the productivity goes up. quite possible also true if you pay workers piecemeal.
How does that even effect the demand for the product? There is no correlation between the two
When people have money, they buy things. That is called demand. Right now 78% of American families live paycheck-to-paycheck. Great job! This is the GOP economy, a give away to the rich and a screw job for everybody else. Wake up and smell the coffee super dupe.

Got a link for that?
If true there's way more morons in this country than I ever imagined.

78% Of Workers Live Paycheck To Paycheck
 
After enough time, corporations realized it was not a successful plan. Paying workers more money does not equal greater profit. Paying a CEO more money does.
If you pay workers the productivity goes up. Not to mention demand for product. Worst inequality and upward Mobility ever means something.
If you pay workers the productivity goes up. Not to mention demand for product.
If you pay workers the productivity goes up. quite possible also true if you pay workers piecemeal.
How does that even effect the demand for the product? There is no correlation between the two
When people have money, they buy things. That is called demand. Right now 78% of American families live paycheck-to-paycheck. Great job! This is the GOP economy, a give away to the rich and a screw job for everybody else. Wake up and smell the coffee super dupe.

Got a link for that?
If true there's way more morons in this country than I ever imagined.

78% Of Workers Live Paycheck To Paycheck
Because they can't handle their money

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If you pay workers the productivity goes up. Not to mention demand for product. Worst inequality and upward Mobility ever means something.
If you pay workers the productivity goes up. Not to mention demand for product.
If you pay workers the productivity goes up. quite possible also true if you pay workers piecemeal.
How does that even effect the demand for the product? There is no correlation between the two
When people have money, they buy things. That is called demand. Right now 78% of American families live paycheck-to-paycheck. Great job! This is the GOP economy, a give away to the rich and a screw job for everybody else. Wake up and smell the coffee super dupe.

Got a link for that?
If true there's way more morons in this country than I ever imagined.

78% Of Workers Live Paycheck To Paycheck
Because they can't handle their money

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pretty much
 
Only the government can do it. we no longer have greatest generation CEOs or unions. Great job

So you retract your statement two posts later?
You're a Fuken mental midget.
you'll see when the Democrats get in and give us a living wage, brainwashed functional moron. I didn't retract anything.

you'll see when the Democrats get in and give us a living wage,

Like Clinton and Obama did?

Moron.
several of the democratic candidates are talking about using the nuclear option to break the corrupt total obstruction GOP log jam. the GOP passed reconciliation in 1974 so they can cut taxes on the rich with 51 votes in the Senate. Quite a scam. At any rate when we get anything good you can be sure it will be done by democrats.

the GOP passed reconciliation in 1974 so they can cut taxes on the rich

Dems controlled both the House and Senate in 1974, you stupid twat.
It was a republican idea and its meaning changed under Reagan... At any rate it is used for cutting taxes on the rich and screwing everyone else. Cuts in taxes and cuts in services great idea if you're a rich a******.
 
I am surprised that African Americans had seen smaller gains. I would think that with this type of trend that they would benefit MORE.

Not really, and I'm speaking from experience only mind you.

We have customers who have, or in the process, of replacing their white crew with blacks. Blacks live in lower income areas, and their cost of living is cheaper, so they can afford to work for lower pay. That gives the company an opportunity to save money and still get the labor they need.

It's almost a situation of competition of whites vs blacks. They may not get the quality of work that they did from whites, but the savings they gain from payroll more than makes up for it.
 
Ok, what would Democrats’ plan be to change that? They WANT to eliminate the Trump tax cuts but how will they do that and keep UE low while raising wages?

This article and your share of it is simply class warfare. It accomplishes nothing except for those vested into transforming this Nation into yet another failed Socialist country.
Is it class warfare to point out a growing disconnect between the compensation of workers and the profits of employers?


No, it is class warfare to pretend it is a some evil plan of the rich, that just started under the new rich guy,


while ignoring the actual causes that go back to the early 70s.



You could lynch Trump and implement your socialist utopia, and the trends would not change in the slightest.
It is an evil plan of the rich

Maintain a lowly paid workforce that is afraid to lose their jobs
Abolish unions and make each employee fend for themselves

Yes, comrade Marx, we must kill the evil rich and the evil Joooooos
Nobody said anything about killing

Only make them contribute to society at levels like they did before Reagan


As much hate as you liberals inject into every conversation and/or issue, it is pretty obvious where it is all leading to.



You don't call people "nazis" because you want to build bridges. You do shit like that, when you are making your mind right, to put them up against the wall.
 
And the lowest paid workers are getting the highest wage increases in the Trump economy.

Seems to contradict the leftist fairy tale that only the rich benefited from Trump's tax cuts.

Trump lies. Do not believe him.

It is true that inflation-adjusted wages (average weekly for production and nonsupervisory workers) peaked in February 1973 at $345.95, and then fluctuated but generally declined, hitting a low point of $263.73 in January 1996. They have again fluctuated since, but they’ve been on a general upward trend. They have increased 2.4% since Trump took office, from an average $308.21 per week to $315.74 per week in May, the most recent figures available from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Technical note: All wage figures cited in this story from BLS are calculated in 1982-84 dollars – not current 2019 dollars.

During Obama’s last four years in office the average weekly earnings for production and nonsupervisory workers went up 4.9%. Over Obama’s entire two-term tenure, wages were up 4.2%.

Over President George W. Bush’s eight years in office, wages also increased by 4.2%, and under President Bill Clinton, they went up by 6.4%. (Real average weekly earnings for all private sector employees, including supervisors, shows a similar trend, though BLS only has published statistics going back to 2006. Those figures are up 2.3% under Trump, 3.9% under Obama’s second term and 4% over his eight years in office.)
Are Wages Rising or Flat?

It is cool the way you cite an average wage number, to counter Diva's point about low end wages.

For a liberal, that was a pretty good argument. YOu actually were on a related issue. You managed to refrain from calling some one a racist, for one post in a row.

And that is all we can expect from you. You should knock off for the day. You don't want to over do it.
What's cool is that I have facts and links while Diva just spouts what Fox told her to say. Here's more...

The faster growth at the bottom is probably being fueled in part by recent minimum-wage increases in cities and states across the country. Research from the Economic Policy Institute, a liberal-leaning think tank, found that over the past five years, wages for low-wage workers rose 13 percent in states that raised their minimum wages, compared with 8.4 percent in states that did not.

But minimum wages are only part of the story. Ernie Tedeschi, an economist at Evercore ISI, estimates that the minimum-wage increases account for a quarter to a third of low-wage workers’ gains over the past three years. The rest is most likely a result of a tightening labor market that is forcing employers to raise pay even for workers at the bottom of the earnings ladder.

Ms. Gimbel noted that better-paying industries had experienced faster job growth in recent months, while the fastest wage growth had been in lower-paying industries. That could indicate that sectors like health care and manufacturing are snapping up workers, forcing retailers and restaurants to raise pay to compete.

Still, not everyone is benefiting equally. African-American workers have seen smaller gains over the course of the recovery, for example. And wage growth remains slow in some parts of the country that were hit especially hard by the recession.​

But minimum wages are only part of the story. Ernie Tedeschi, an economist at Evercore ISI, estimates that the minimum-wage increases account for a quarter to a third of low-wage workers’ gains over the past three years. The rest is most likely a result of a tightening labor market that is forcing employers to raise pay even for workers at the bottom of the earnings ladder.

Two-thirds to three-quarters of the gain is due to a tightening labor market. Build the wall and deport 10 million illegals, low wage workers will gain even more.


It is like he read it, but his brain filters out, any data that does not support his already arrived at conclusion.
 

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