America: “You have the RIGHT to an attorney”.....but not a doctor right guys?

[Deplorable Yankee]

 

[FA_Q2]

Funny how US LAW dictates you are entitled, have a RIGHT to the service of an attorney...when you are accused of a crime. In fact if you cant afford one the govt literally says “one will be provided to you” free of charge. Wow. Thats pretty amazing.

But get sick? OOOOOHHHH NO....now you don’t have the right to someones service.

I get it now. I can CHOOSE to commit a crime, then im entitled to someones service. But I DONT choose to get sick, but when I do, Im no longer entitled to medical services.

And you wonder why PRESIDENT BERNIE SANDERS is going to happen? This is why. And its past due.

great. we'll give you a free doctor of the same quality you get a free lawyer, and the doctor will be just as interested in your welfare as the lawyer is your case.

No one ever seems to question the actual value of FREE even though it is really obvious.

 

[pknopp]

Other countries do it. Once again you are arguing we can't do what every other first world and some third world countries do.

Countries with government run healthcare for everyone take half your paycheck. Is that what you want?

There is no standard tax rate anywhere.

The tax rate in Germany is between 14 and 42 percent.

In France 0% to 45%.

Switzerland? 10 to 40%.

Link to your source.

Because you provided a link to your claims?

Common knowledge. Your claim that government run healthcare for everyone will cost less than now is a lie.

Factually it can't be a lie. But if you want to claim that we can't do what every other first world country and some third countries have done already you are free to feel that.

 

[Flash]

Funny how US LAW dictates you are entitled, have a RIGHT to the service of an attorney...when you are accused of a crime. In fact if you cant afford one the govt literally says “one will be provided to you” free of charge. Wow. Thats pretty amazing.

But get sick? OOOOOHHHH NO....now you don’t have the right to someones service.

I get it now. I can CHOOSE to commit a crime, then im entitled to someones service. But I DONT choose to get sick, but when I do, Im no longer entitled to medical services.

And you wonder why PRESIDENT BERNIE SANDERS is going to happen? This is why. And its past due.

I have a great idea. How about you paying your healthcare bills, and I pay mine and we leave the filthy government out of the business of stealing our money to pay other people's bills?

Does that sound fair? Or do you think you are entitled, just because you are alive, to have somebody else have to work to pay your healthcare bills? You wouldn't think like that, would you, because that would make you real greedy asshole, wouldn't it?

 

[hadit]

Obama ran up the debt. Argue if you wish that you believe he had valid reasons to but I simply noted that like Trump he cut taxes and ran up the debt. He did.

Yes Obama ran up debt. Just not the amount that the republican you replied to stated.

All presidents do. However Obama was handed an economy in free fall. He had to spend to save our economy. It's basic economics. If he had not done that all you have to do is look at what hoover did to cause that depression and for it to last for as long as it did and for it to get worse than it could have been if the proper economic policy had been followed at the time.

While all presidents do incur debt, democratic presidents do it at a much slower rate. At least since reagan. Since that time it's been republican presidents who add huge amounts to our national debt and budget deficit. Clinton had the reagan/bush budget deficit eliminated. He balanced that mess reagan/bush left him. Created hundreds of billions in surplus, added to the national debt at a much slower rate than reagan/bush, had paid back the money reagan/bush had stolen from social security and and stopped the theft from the fund. He left a plan to have that reagan/bush national debt paid by 2010. Clinton wrote balanced budgets. reagan/bush never did that. The bush boy came next. He like reagan/bush before him, never wrote a balanced budget, he restarted the theft from social security, drastically slashed taxes and kept most of his war spending off the general budget. He left office while our economy was collapsing. Obama was handed just under 13 trillion in national debt and 1.4 trillion in budget deficit. He took that national debt to over 19 trillion and slashed the budget deficit by nearly 1 trillion down to 400 and something billion.

Obama didn't cut our taxes. He increased taxes on the rich and left the rates the same for everyone else. The bush boy tax cuts were going to expire. A part of the stimulus was keeping the tax rates the same on everyone but the rich.

We were lied to. The reason we have Trump is because President Obama was not the person Candidate Obama said he would be.

That's why Sanders is doing so well. Basically Sanders platform is Obama's original platform.

Did the establishment know he was lying cause them to not panic like they are doing with Sanders?

Oh yes, Obama lied to us about many things. He brought many from the private investment and Wall Street sector to his administration just like presidents before him. He was corporate just as the establishment is. The establishment is corporate America. It has been for a very long time.

He spent like all presidents do but not at as high rate as republicans before him.

He wouldn't have had to rescue the economy if it wasn't collapsing as he was being sworn in.

He had a congress that didn't work with him. Even to the point that budgets became continuing bills from the old budget because congress refused to compromise and allow democracy to work properly. They filibustered everything sent to the Senate from the House in the first 2 years. When the House went to republican hands, almost every bill in the senate was filibustered by the republicans until they took control of the senate. Then the democrats filibustered everything when they lost the majority. If the congress had worked with Obama I think more things could have been done.

I don't know why the democratic establishment is panicking. I've been a registered Independent since 1978. They should know that most of what Sanders wants to do has to go through congress and congress isn't going to pass much of any of it.

So we get what we have had since Obama. Government by executive order.

If the congress had worked with Obama I think more things could have been done.

Like Obama said, “You don’t like a particular policy or a particular president? Then argue for your position. Go out there and win an election. Push to change it,”

He also said, "Elections have consequences"

He was also willing to work with Republicans for the good of the country.

Republicans weren’t

Sure he was, as long as they rode in the back of the bus.

 

[hadit]

You wanna give the government half of your paycheck and take public transportation or pay $7 a gallon for gasoline?

No, you can do that if you like. Besides like I've said many times......we aren't paying for things now.....why do we have to start with health care?

If you want National socialist healthcare, then be prepared to give half your paycheck to the government and use public transportation or pay $7 for a gallon gasoline. Check it out yourself.

National health care can be done for less than we pay now.

Not as well.

You don't have much faith in the "greatest country in the world".

I'm being realistic. You are not.

 

[hadit]

And you do if you have health insurance. You pay a lot for it.

I do. We can do better. Other countries do.

And many of those countries depend on our military spending to afford it. Think about how much more France, Italy, and Greece for example, would be paying for defense if the US didn't have a strong presence in Europe. Add to that the billions that we pump into their economies and they can afford socialized medicine. Take us out of the equation and they wouldn't be able to spend as much. That's obvious.

Our presence isn't there to protect these other countries.

Evidence?

Who is going to attack Germany?

Look at history. After WW1, What did Germany do? Rebuild and launch WW2. We stayed in Europe to make sure it didn't happen again. If we had not, the European countries today would have much larger militaries, hoping to prevent yet another catastrophic conflict. Our presence helps to maintain order. History did not begin when you were born.

 

[danielpalos]

Funny how US LAW dictates you are entitled, have a RIGHT to the service of an attorney...when you are accused of a crime. In fact if you cant afford one the govt literally says “one will be provided to you” free of charge. Wow. Thats pretty amazing.

But get sick? OOOOOHHHH NO....now you don’t have the right to someones service.

I get it now. I can CHOOSE to commit a crime, then im entitled to someones service. But I DONT choose to get sick, but when I do, Im no longer entitled to medical services.

And you wonder why PRESIDENT BERNIE SANDERS is going to happen? This is why. And its past due.

This has more to do with a lapse of ethics and morals for the right wing's preference for useless bigotry.

We could have solved simple poverty under our form of Capitalism, Yesterday but for right wing "hate on the Poor" and social Horror that the Poor may benefit under Capitalism.

 

[DBA]

But then “Hes sick? Screw him let him suffer and die. Thats what he gets for not being able to afford it.”

But this is not what he gets. He can walk into any ER at any public hospital and get the same care as anyone else. I mean, there is that.

 

[DBA]

Funny how US LAW dictates you are entitled, have a RIGHT to the service of an attorney...when you are accused of a crime. In fact if you cant afford one the govt literally says “one will be provided to you” free of charge. Wow. Thats pretty amazing.

But get sick? OOOOOHHHH NO....now you don’t have the right to someones service.

I get it now. I can CHOOSE to commit a crime, then im entitled to someones service. But I DONT choose to get sick, but when I do, Im no longer entitled to medical services.

And you wonder why PRESIDENT BERNIE SANDERS is going to happen? This is why. And its past due.

This has more to do with a lapse of ethics and morals for the right wing's preference for useless bigotry.

We could have solved simple poverty under our form of Capitalism, Yesterday but for right wing "hate on the Poor" and social Horror that the Poor may benefit under Capitalism.

You must not understand the definition of bigotry. The left is the most bigoted group of people in the world, by far.

 

[pknopp]

I do. We can do better. Other countries do.

And many of those countries depend on our military spending to afford it. Think about how much more France, Italy, and Greece for example, would be paying for defense if the US didn't have a strong presence in Europe. Add to that the billions that we pump into their economies and they can afford socialized medicine. Take us out of the equation and they wouldn't be able to spend as much. That's obvious.

Our presence isn't there to protect these other countries.

Evidence?

Who is going to attack Germany?

Look at history. After WW1, What did Germany do? Rebuild and launch WW2. We stayed in Europe to make sure it didn't happen again. If we had not, the European countries today would have much larger militaries, hoping to prevent yet another catastrophic conflict. Our presence helps to maintain order. History did not begin when you were born.

Germany did that because the rest of the world decided that Germany needed "punished" even further. That never works. I know history.

 

[BS Filter]

Countries with government run healthcare for everyone take half your paycheck. Is that what you want?

There is no standard tax rate anywhere.

The tax rate in Germany is between 14 and 42 percent.

In France 0% to 45%.

Switzerland? 10 to 40%.

Link to your source.

Because you provided a link to your claims?

Common knowledge. Your claim that government run healthcare for everyone will cost less than now is a lie.

Factually it can't be a lie. But if you want to claim that we can't do what every other first world country and some third countries have done already you are free to feel that.

Why should we ruin our nation just because others did? Take care of yourself. It's not the job of government to take care of you.

 

[pknopp]

There is no standard tax rate anywhere.

The tax rate in Germany is between 14 and 42 percent.

In France 0% to 45%.

Switzerland? 10 to 40%.

Link to your source.

Because you provided a link to your claims?

Common knowledge. Your claim that government run healthcare for everyone will cost less than now is a lie.

Factually it can't be a lie. But if you want to claim that we can't do what every other first world country and some third countries have done already you are free to feel that.

Why should we ruin our nation just because others did? Take care of yourself. It's not the job of government to take care of you.

Why would it ruin the "greatest nation in the world" when it hasn't ruined every other first world country?

 

[BS Filter]

Funny how US LAW dictates you are entitled, have a RIGHT to the service of an attorney...when you are accused of a crime. In fact if you cant afford one the govt literally says “one will be provided to you” free of charge. Wow. Thats pretty amazing.

But get sick? OOOOOHHHH NO....now you don’t have the right to someones service.

I get it now. I can CHOOSE to commit a crime, then im entitled to someones service. But I DONT choose to get sick, but when I do, Im no longer entitled to medical services.

And you wonder why PRESIDENT BERNIE SANDERS is going to happen? This is why. And its past due.

This has more to do with a lapse of ethics and morals for the right wing's preference for useless bigotry.

We could have solved simple poverty under our form of Capitalism, Yesterday but for right wing "hate on the Poor" and social Horror that the Poor may benefit under Capitalism.

You've got a democrat billionaire running for President that has squandered 500 million so far. That sure could have helped a bunch of people in poverty. Bunch of hypocrites.

 

[pknopp]

Funny how US LAW dictates you are entitled, have a RIGHT to the service of an attorney...when you are accused of a crime. In fact if you cant afford one the govt literally says “one will be provided to you” free of charge. Wow. Thats pretty amazing.

But get sick? OOOOOHHHH NO....now you don’t have the right to someones service.

I get it now. I can CHOOSE to commit a crime, then im entitled to someones service. But I DONT choose to get sick, but when I do, Im no longer entitled to medical services.

And you wonder why PRESIDENT BERNIE SANDERS is going to happen? This is why. And its past due.

This has more to do with a lapse of ethics and morals for the right wing's preference for useless bigotry.

We could have solved simple poverty under our form of Capitalism, Yesterday but for right wing "hate on the Poor" and social Horror that the Poor may benefit under Capitalism.

You've got a democrat billionaire running for President that has squandered 500 million so far. That sure could have helped a bunch of people in poverty. Bunch of hypocrites.

So far he has won nothing. Anyone is permitted to run.

 

[BS Filter]

Link to your source.

Because you provided a link to your claims?

Common knowledge. Your claim that government run healthcare for everyone will cost less than now is a lie.

Factually it can't be a lie. But if you want to claim that we can't do what every other first world country and some third countries have done already you are free to feel that.

Why should we ruin our nation just because others did? Take care of yourself. It's not the job of government to take care of you.

Why would it ruin the "greatest nation in the world" when it hasn't ruined every other first world country?

The people are subjects of the big brother government. The government totally runs their lives. Move to one of those countries. Please.

 

[BS Filter]

Funny how US LAW dictates you are entitled, have a RIGHT to the service of an attorney...when you are accused of a crime. In fact if you cant afford one the govt literally says “one will be provided to you” free of charge. Wow. Thats pretty amazing.

But get sick? OOOOOHHHH NO....now you don’t have the right to someones service.

I get it now. I can CHOOSE to commit a crime, then im entitled to someones service. But I DONT choose to get sick, but when I do, Im no longer entitled to medical services.

And you wonder why PRESIDENT BERNIE SANDERS is going to happen? This is why. And its past due.

This has more to do with a lapse of ethics and morals for the right wing's preference for useless bigotry.

We could have solved simple poverty under our form of Capitalism, Yesterday but for right wing "hate on the Poor" and social Horror that the Poor may benefit under Capitalism.

You've got a democrat billionaire running for President that has squandered 500 million so far. That sure could have helped a bunch of people in poverty. Bunch of hypocrites.

So far he has won nothing. Anyone is permitted to run.

Exactly. He's blown half a billion with nothing to show for it. Typical Democrat.

 

[pknopp]

Because you provided a link to your claims?

Common knowledge. Your claim that government run healthcare for everyone will cost less than now is a lie.

Factually it can't be a lie. But if you want to claim that we can't do what every other first world country and some third countries have done already you are free to feel that.

Why should we ruin our nation just because others did? Take care of yourself. It's not the job of government to take care of you.

Why would it ruin the "greatest nation in the world" when it hasn't ruined every other first world country?

The people are subjects of the big brother government. The government totally runs their lives. Move to one of those countries. Please.

Ask the Canadians here if the government runs their life.

 

[BS Filter]

Common knowledge. Your claim that government run healthcare for everyone will cost less than now is a lie.

Factually it can't be a lie. But if you want to claim that we can't do what every other first world country and some third countries have done already you are free to feel that.

Why should we ruin our nation just because others did? Take care of yourself. It's not the job of government to take care of you.

Why would it ruin the "greatest nation in the world" when it hasn't ruined every other first world country?

The people are subjects of the big brother government. The government totally runs their lives. Move to one of those countries. Please.

Ask the Canadians here if the government runs their life.

Many Canadians come to the USA or other places when they need surgery.

 

[pknopp]

Factually it can't be a lie. But if you want to claim that we can't do what every other first world country and some third countries have done already you are free to feel that.

Why should we ruin our nation just because others did? Take care of yourself. It's not the job of government to take care of you.

Why would it ruin the "greatest nation in the world" when it hasn't ruined every other first world country?

The people are subjects of the big brother government. The government totally runs their lives. Move to one of those countries. Please.

Ask the Canadians here if the government runs their life.

Many Canadians come to the USA or other places when they need surgery.

Rand Paul went to Canada to get surgery but that isn't the point that was made.