American Corporations direct their advertising dollars towards individuals and culture that will make them the most money.

What ever happened to working together for the betterment of all?
In 1997, 98, 99 Ford had record profits and the employees got record profit sharing. That was working together for the betterment of all. In the 2000's Republicans and Corporations waged war against unions. We found out around 2007 why. They were going to send all those jobs overseas in order to break those unions and renig on those pensions.

No matter what they say about unions remember in the 90's the Big 3 were making record profits. So what was the problem? The problem was labor was cutting too much into profits. Not good for the CEO and shareholders. And who did they sell this to? They sold it to Republicans who weren't in unions. Little did those suckers realize that if you attack unions then you attack the middle class and today no shit blue collar isn't as strong as it was in 1999. And today Republicans say they want to bring those jobs back home but only now they will be $15 hr jobs.
Big Auto has been bailed out multiple times. This happened before the 90s.

Retaining auto jobs in the US has a lot less to do with unions and a lot more to do with protectionist policies regarding car sales. For example, to avoid tariffs, we've had a policy in place for a while that requires a certain amount of assembly in the US. That has led to many foreign auto companies building plants here. Most of them are not unionized.

In fact, the threat of unionization usually gets these companies to improve pay and benefits in exchange for not unionizing. So, you could argue that the presence of unions may improve the lives of workers, but only in the context of it being a valid threat.

For the most unionized auto companies here, jobs do tend to end up overseas due to cheaper labor. The Big 3 have done this multiple times, largely because they're less affected by the tariffs we have in place.

At this point, it's better to be an employee of Nissan, Mercedes, or BMW than for Ford, GM, or Chrysler.
Good post except the last one. I doubt it's better to be a Nissan or BMW employee than it is to be a Ford employee

Ford Motor Company employees rated their Overall Rating 0.5 higher than Nissan employees rated theirs.

Ford Motor Company employees rated their Career Opportunities 0.4 higher than Nissan employees rated theirs.

Ford Motor Company employees rated their Compensation & Benefits 0.5 higher than Nissan employees rated theirs.

Ford Motor Company employees rated their Work-life balance 0.8 higher than Nissan employees rated theirs.

Ford Motor Company employees rated their Senior Management 0.5 higher than Nissan employees rated theirs.

Ford Motor Company employees rated their Culture & Values 0.7 higher than Nissan employees rated theirs.

Ford Motor Company employees rated their CEO Approval 16% higher than Nissan employees rated theirs.



Here is a fact. Ford employees have job security. Workers at Nissan have ZERO. They are at will employers and can fire them for any reason.

Ford Motor Company employees rated their % Recommend to a friend 17% higher than Nissan employees rated theirs.
64%
Positive Business Outlook
53%
Ford Motor Company employees rated their Positive Business Outlook 10% higher thanNissan employees rated theirs.

Please don't make statements like you THINK it's better to be a NISSAN employee than a Ford employee. What did you base that on?
Fair enough, but I was basing it on the fact that a Nissan job is less likely to be outsourced than a Ford one. That's directly tied to unionization.
 
American Corporations direct their advertising dollars towards individuals and culture that will make them the most money. Not only the most money now, but in the future. The largest number of individuals that have disposable wealth. The people who are the drivers of our culture.
There have never been more ads with mixed race couples and minorities. Corporate America knows where the US is moving. It is not the way of Trumpism, sexism, racism, white supremacists, conspiracy theorists.
Corporate America is signaling the end of Trumpism. They do so based on the strength of the dollar, not any political agenda.
May the evils of Trumpism continue to fade away along with those who support it. It cannot happen fast enough




EXPLAIN THE CANCELATIN OF ROSEANNE. OR COPS.
Explain how that country singer said racist things and his record sales are through the roof with white America

I just want to know why progressives encourage more minorities to come here while also believing we're deeply racist.

If I truly thought America was really racist, I'd discourage non-whites from coming here.
I don't want more immigrants. Not until wages go up for blue collar Americans already here. Is corporate America saying they can't find enough workers to fill the jobs they have open?

You are deeply racist. That doesn't mean WE are.

We also believe corporate America is racist. BUT, we know there are a lot of companies who have implemented diversity programs. So while America is still very racist, it's getting better thanks to us.
If you don't want more immigrants, you're supporting the wrong party.

The more that "diversity programs" are pushed, the more it just encourages tribalism. Anti-white sentiment is part of the formula as well. If you're not white yourself, then I get it. If you are white, well, good luck -- you're going to need it when we reach South Africa's social paradigm.
 
The average employee at Ford Motor Company earns a yearly salary of $50,602 per year

Nissan is $45,000
Compare the local cost of living. Nissan's biggest US plant is in Tennessee -- a considerably cheaper place to live than where most Ford plants are.

Yea but job security. And pensions. And profit sharing.

And the fact that not all the people in the Nissan plant are actual Nissan employees. Lots of temps at Nissan. At Ford there are lots of Ford employees.

Although Ford also employs temps today. This was something that the union had to give up. Before they insisted everyone working at Ford be a Ford employee. Today Ford outsources a lot of jobs too. Are you happy? If you are a shareholder or CEO or even a consumer you might be but as far as labor is concerned, workers today don't make what they used to.
 
American Corporations direct their advertising dollars towards individuals and culture that will make them the most money. Not only the most money now, but in the future. The largest number of individuals that have disposable wealth. The people who are the drivers of our culture.
There have never been more ads with mixed race couples and minorities. Corporate America knows where the US is moving. It is not the way of Trumpism, sexism, racism, white supremacists, conspiracy theorists.
Corporate America is signaling the end of Trumpism. They do so based on the strength of the dollar, not any political agenda.
May the evils of Trumpism continue to fade away along with those who support it. It cannot happen fast enough




EXPLAIN THE CANCELATIN OF ROSEANNE. OR COPS.
Explain how that country singer said racist things and his record sales are through the roof with white America

I just want to know why progressives encourage more minorities to come here while also believing we're deeply racist.

If I truly thought America was really racist, I'd discourage non-whites from coming here.
I don't want more immigrants. Not until wages go up for blue collar Americans already here. Is corporate America saying they can't find enough workers to fill the jobs they have open?

You are deeply racist. That doesn't mean WE are.

We also believe corporate America is racist. BUT, we know there are a lot of companies who have implemented diversity programs. So while America is still very racist, it's getting better thanks to us.
If you don't want more immigrants, you're supporting the wrong party.

The more that "diversity programs" are pushed, the more it just encourages tribalism. Anti-white sentiment is part of the formula as well. If you're not white yourself, then I get it. If you are white, well, good luck -- you're going to need it when we reach South Africa's social paradigm.
Bullshit. Republicans aren't against legal immigration. As soon as the corporations tell them to import more they will.

And Republicans aren't against illegal employers. They play wack a mole with immigrants because it makes their racist base happy but they don't do a thing about illegal employers.
 
The average employee at Ford Motor Company earns a yearly salary of $50,602 per year

Nissan is $45,000
Compare the local cost of living. Nissan's biggest US plant is in Tennessee -- a considerably cheaper place to live than where most Ford plants are.

Yea but job security. And pensions. And profit sharing.

And the fact that not all the people in the Nissan plant are actual Nissan employees. Lots of temps at Nissan. At Ford there are lots of Ford employees.

Although Ford also employs temps today. This was something that the union had to give up. Before they insisted everyone working at Ford be a Ford employee. Today Ford outsources a lot of jobs too. Are you happy? If you are a shareholder or CEO or even a consumer you might be but as far as labor is concerned, workers today don't make what they used to.
I'm not saying I like outsourcing as a trend, but what keeps jobs here is more about trade policy than unionization. You can unionize all you want, but job security is more about whether a company continues to do production here. Unionization encourages a company to find cheaper labor elsewhere. Tariffs encourage production here.
 
American Corporations direct their advertising dollars towards individuals and culture that will make them the most money. Not only the most money now, but in the future. The largest number of individuals that have disposable wealth. The people who are the drivers of our culture.
There have never been more ads with mixed race couples and minorities. Corporate America knows where the US is moving. It is not the way of Trumpism, sexism, racism, white supremacists, conspiracy theorists.
Corporate America is signaling the end of Trumpism. They do so based on the strength of the dollar, not any political agenda.
May the evils of Trumpism continue to fade away along with those who support it. It cannot happen fast enough




EXPLAIN THE CANCELATIN OF ROSEANNE. OR COPS.
Explain how that country singer said racist things and his record sales are through the roof with white America

I just want to know why progressives encourage more minorities to come here while also believing we're deeply racist.

If I truly thought America was really racist, I'd discourage non-whites from coming here.
I don't want more immigrants. Not until wages go up for blue collar Americans already here. Is corporate America saying they can't find enough workers to fill the jobs they have open?

You are deeply racist. That doesn't mean WE are.

We also believe corporate America is racist. BUT, we know there are a lot of companies who have implemented diversity programs. So while America is still very racist, it's getting better thanks to us.
If you don't want more immigrants, you're supporting the wrong party.

The more that "diversity programs" are pushed, the more it just encourages tribalism. Anti-white sentiment is part of the formula as well. If you're not white yourself, then I get it. If you are white, well, good luck -- you're going to need it when we reach South Africa's social paradigm.
Bullshit. Republicans aren't against legal immigration. As soon as the corporations tell them to import more they will.

And Republicans aren't against illegal employers. They play wack a mole with immigrants because it makes their racist base happy but they don't do a thing about illegal employers.
Oh I agree that the GOP doesn't do enough to prosecute employers of illegals. Neither party does.

The difference is that the Democrats want to go further with this. Amnesty for illegals is the end goal. They pushed a version of this with DACA. Others (like the DSA wing) want complete amnesty, which eventually entails citizenship.
 
The average employee at Ford Motor Company earns a yearly salary of $50,602 per year

Nissan is $45,000
Compare the local cost of living. Nissan's biggest US plant is in Tennessee -- a considerably cheaper place to live than where most Ford plants are.

Yea but job security. And pensions. And profit sharing.

And the fact that not all the people in the Nissan plant are actual Nissan employees. Lots of temps at Nissan. At Ford there are lots of Ford employees.

Although Ford also employs temps today. This was something that the union had to give up. Before they insisted everyone working at Ford be a Ford employee. Today Ford outsources a lot of jobs too. Are you happy? If you are a shareholder or CEO or even a consumer you might be but as far as labor is concerned, workers today don't make what they used to.
I'm not saying I like outsourcing as a trend, but what keeps jobs here is more about trade policy than unionization. You can unionize all you want, but job security is more about whether a company continues to do production here. Unionization encourages a company to find cheaper labor elsewhere. Tariffs encourage production here.
We can tariff to force companies who want to sell here to make here and we can unionize so that the workers are paid fairly. Will the products be a little more expensive? Sure. But do you really notice when a washing machine costs $3200 instead of $2900? I don't. Or if a car is $300 more expensive because of labor costs? I don't. And it's worth it to have Americans working.
 
American Corporations direct their advertising dollars towards individuals and culture that will make them the most money. Not only the most money now, but in the future. The largest number of individuals that have disposable wealth. The people who are the drivers of our culture.
There have never been more ads with mixed race couples and minorities. Corporate America knows where the US is moving. It is not the way of Trumpism, sexism, racism, white supremacists, conspiracy theorists.
Corporate America is signaling the end of Trumpism. They do so based on the strength of the dollar, not any political agenda.
May the evils of Trumpism continue to fade away along with those who support it. It cannot happen fast enough




EXPLAIN THE CANCELATIN OF ROSEANNE. OR COPS.
Explain how that country singer said racist things and his record sales are through the roof with white America

I just want to know why progressives encourage more minorities to come here while also believing we're deeply racist.

If I truly thought America was really racist, I'd discourage non-whites from coming here.
I don't want more immigrants. Not until wages go up for blue collar Americans already here. Is corporate America saying they can't find enough workers to fill the jobs they have open?

You are deeply racist. That doesn't mean WE are.

We also believe corporate America is racist. BUT, we know there are a lot of companies who have implemented diversity programs. So while America is still very racist, it's getting better thanks to us.
If you don't want more immigrants, you're supporting the wrong party.

The more that "diversity programs" are pushed, the more it just encourages tribalism. Anti-white sentiment is part of the formula as well. If you're not white yourself, then I get it. If you are white, well, good luck -- you're going to need it when we reach South Africa's social paradigm.
Bullshit. Republicans aren't against legal immigration. As soon as the corporations tell them to import more they will.

And Republicans aren't against illegal employers. They play wack a mole with immigrants because it makes their racist base happy but they don't do a thing about illegal employers.
Oh I agree that the GOP doesn't do enough to prosecute employers of illegals. Neither party does.

The difference is that the Democrats want to go further with this. Amnesty for illegals is the end goal. They pushed a version of this with DACA. Others (like the DSA wing) want complete amnesty, which eventually entails citizenship.


"Between 1999 and 2003, work-site enforcement operations were scaled back 95 percent by the Immigration and Naturalization Service, which subsequently was merged into the Homeland Security Department. The number of employers prosecuted for unlawfully employing immigrants dropped from 182 in 1999 to four in 2003, and fines collected declined from $3.6 million to $212,000, according to federal statistics.

"In 1999, the United States initiated fines against 417 companies. In 2004, it issued fine notices to three."

Based on these numbers Clinton was doing his job on this and Bush stopped.
 
The average employee at Ford Motor Company earns a yearly salary of $50,602 per year

Nissan is $45,000
Compare the local cost of living. Nissan's biggest US plant is in Tennessee -- a considerably cheaper place to live than where most Ford plants are.

Yea but job security. And pensions. And profit sharing.

And the fact that not all the people in the Nissan plant are actual Nissan employees. Lots of temps at Nissan. At Ford there are lots of Ford employees.

Although Ford also employs temps today. This was something that the union had to give up. Before they insisted everyone working at Ford be a Ford employee. Today Ford outsources a lot of jobs too. Are you happy? If you are a shareholder or CEO or even a consumer you might be but as far as labor is concerned, workers today don't make what they used to.
I'm not saying I like outsourcing as a trend, but what keeps jobs here is more about trade policy than unionization. You can unionize all you want, but job security is more about whether a company continues to do production here. Unionization encourages a company to find cheaper labor elsewhere. Tariffs encourage production here.
We can tariff to force companies who want to sell here to make here and we can unionize so that the workers are paid fairly. Will the products be a little more expensive? Sure. But do you really notice when a washing machine costs $3200 instead of $2900? I don't. Or if a car is $300 more expensive because of labor costs? I don't. And it's worth it to have Americans working.
There's a happy medium somewhere. I'm not against the right to unionize. I'm just not in favor of people being forced to join a union either.
 
American Corporations direct their advertising dollars towards individuals and culture that will make them the most money. Not only the most money now, but in the future. The largest number of individuals that have disposable wealth. The people who are the drivers of our culture.
There have never been more ads with mixed race couples and minorities. Corporate America knows where the US is moving. It is not the way of Trumpism, sexism, racism, white supremacists, conspiracy theorists.
Corporate America is signaling the end of Trumpism. They do so based on the strength of the dollar, not any political agenda.
May the evils of Trumpism continue to fade away along with those who support it. It cannot happen fast enough




EXPLAIN THE CANCELATIN OF ROSEANNE. OR COPS.
Explain how that country singer said racist things and his record sales are through the roof with white America

I just want to know why progressives encourage more minorities to come here while also believing we're deeply racist.

If I truly thought America was really racist, I'd discourage non-whites from coming here.
I don't want more immigrants. Not until wages go up for blue collar Americans already here. Is corporate America saying they can't find enough workers to fill the jobs they have open?

You are deeply racist. That doesn't mean WE are.

We also believe corporate America is racist. BUT, we know there are a lot of companies who have implemented diversity programs. So while America is still very racist, it's getting better thanks to us.
If you don't want more immigrants, you're supporting the wrong party.

The more that "diversity programs" are pushed, the more it just encourages tribalism. Anti-white sentiment is part of the formula as well. If you're not white yourself, then I get it. If you are white, well, good luck -- you're going to need it when we reach South Africa's social paradigm.
Bullshit. Republicans aren't against legal immigration. As soon as the corporations tell them to import more they will.

And Republicans aren't against illegal employers. They play wack a mole with immigrants because it makes their racist base happy but they don't do a thing about illegal employers.
Oh I agree that the GOP doesn't do enough to prosecute employers of illegals. Neither party does.

The difference is that the Democrats want to go further with this. Amnesty for illegals is the end goal. They pushed a version of this with DACA. Others (like the DSA wing) want complete amnesty, which eventually entails citizenship.


"Between 1999 and 2003, work-site enforcement operations were scaled back 95 percent by the Immigration and Naturalization Service, which subsequently was merged into the Homeland Security Department. The number of employers prosecuted for unlawfully employing immigrants dropped from 182 in 1999 to four in 2003, and fines collected declined from $3.6 million to $212,000, according to federal statistics.

"In 1999, the United States initiated fines against 417 companies. In 2004, it issued fine notices to three."

Based on these numbers Clinton was doing his job on this and Bush stopped.
Bush was pretty shitty, but so was Obama. Trump was better on this issue though.
 
The average employee at Ford Motor Company earns a yearly salary of $50,602 per year

Nissan is $45,000
Compare the local cost of living. Nissan's biggest US plant is in Tennessee -- a considerably cheaper place to live than where most Ford plants are.

Yea but job security. And pensions. And profit sharing.

And the fact that not all the people in the Nissan plant are actual Nissan employees. Lots of temps at Nissan. At Ford there are lots of Ford employees.

Although Ford also employs temps today. This was something that the union had to give up. Before they insisted everyone working at Ford be a Ford employee. Today Ford outsources a lot of jobs too. Are you happy? If you are a shareholder or CEO or even a consumer you might be but as far as labor is concerned, workers today don't make what they used to.
I'm not saying I like outsourcing as a trend, but what keeps jobs here is more about trade policy than unionization. You can unionize all you want, but job security is more about whether a company continues to do production here. Unionization encourages a company to find cheaper labor elsewhere. Tariffs encourage production here.
We can tariff to force companies who want to sell here to make here and we can unionize so that the workers are paid fairly. Will the products be a little more expensive? Sure. But do you really notice when a washing machine costs $3200 instead of $2900? I don't. Or if a car is $300 more expensive because of labor costs? I don't. And it's worth it to have Americans working.
There's a happy medium somewhere. I'm not against the right to unionize. I'm just not in favor of people being forced to join a union either.
Well that whole "forcing people to join the union" is a way for idiots in the company to not have to pay their dues but then they get the benefits of being in a union without being in a union.

I say if you don't want to be in a union, don't go work for a company that is unionized.

Or, they shouldn't get the benefits that the union workers get but they do. Why? Because the company wants everyone to leave the union.

The employees voted to unionized. If I try to unionize my company and 25% of us want to unionize do I get to start a union for the 25 of us? No. Why not? The ones who want to be in a union should be allowed to be in a union. See what I'm saying? If the employees vote no union then no union. But if they vote to be a union then non union employees should not be allowed to come in and fuck it up.

Wouldn't the company only hire people who say they won't join the union?
 
American Corporations direct their advertising dollars towards individuals and culture that will make them the most money. Not only the most money now, but in the future. The largest number of individuals that have disposable wealth. The people who are the drivers of our culture.
There have never been more ads with mixed race couples and minorities. Corporate America knows where the US is moving. It is not the way of Trumpism, sexism, racism, white supremacists, conspiracy theorists.
Corporate America is signaling the end of Trumpism. They do so based on the strength of the dollar, not any political agenda.
May the evils of Trumpism continue to fade away along with those who support it. It cannot happen fast enough




EXPLAIN THE CANCELATIN OF ROSEANNE. OR COPS.
Explain how that country singer said racist things and his record sales are through the roof with white America

I just want to know why progressives encourage more minorities to come here while also believing we're deeply racist.

If I truly thought America was really racist, I'd discourage non-whites from coming here.
I don't want more immigrants. Not until wages go up for blue collar Americans already here. Is corporate America saying they can't find enough workers to fill the jobs they have open?

You are deeply racist. That doesn't mean WE are.

We also believe corporate America is racist. BUT, we know there are a lot of companies who have implemented diversity programs. So while America is still very racist, it's getting better thanks to us.
If you don't want more immigrants, you're supporting the wrong party.

The more that "diversity programs" are pushed, the more it just encourages tribalism. Anti-white sentiment is part of the formula as well. If you're not white yourself, then I get it. If you are white, well, good luck -- you're going to need it when we reach South Africa's social paradigm.
Bullshit. Republicans aren't against legal immigration. As soon as the corporations tell them to import more they will.

And Republicans aren't against illegal employers. They play wack a mole with immigrants because it makes their racist base happy but they don't do a thing about illegal employers.
Oh I agree that the GOP doesn't do enough to prosecute employers of illegals. Neither party does.

The difference is that the Democrats want to go further with this. Amnesty for illegals is the end goal. They pushed a version of this with DACA. Others (like the DSA wing) want complete amnesty, which eventually entails citizenship.


"Between 1999 and 2003, work-site enforcement operations were scaled back 95 percent by the Immigration and Naturalization Service, which subsequently was merged into the Homeland Security Department. The number of employers prosecuted for unlawfully employing immigrants dropped from 182 in 1999 to four in 2003, and fines collected declined from $3.6 million to $212,000, according to federal statistics.

"In 1999, the United States initiated fines against 417 companies. In 2004, it issued fine notices to three."

Based on these numbers Clinton was doing his job on this and Bush stopped.
Bush was pretty shitty, but so was Obama. Trump was better on this issue though.
He only pretended to be. He didn't stop illegal employers in fact he himself was an illegal employer well into his presidency. So yes he made this a issue because it was popular with all of us but he only played wack a mole with immigrants and the wall was a joke.
 
American Corporations direct their advertising dollars towards individuals and culture that will make them the most money. Not only the most money now, but in the future. The largest number of individuals that have disposable wealth. The people who are the drivers of our culture.
There have never been more ads with mixed race couples and minorities. Corporate America knows where the US is moving. It is not the way of Trumpism, sexism, racism, white supremacists, conspiracy theorists.
Corporate America is signaling the end of Trumpism. They do so based on the strength of the dollar, not any political agenda.
May the evils of Trumpism continue to fade away along with those who support it. It cannot happen fast enough




EXPLAIN THE CANCELATIN OF ROSEANNE. OR COPS.
Explain how that country singer said racist things and his record sales are through the roof with white America

I just want to know why progressives encourage more minorities to come here while also believing we're deeply racist.

If I truly thought America was really racist, I'd discourage non-whites from coming here.
I don't want more immigrants. Not until wages go up for blue collar Americans already here. Is corporate America saying they can't find enough workers to fill the jobs they have open?

You are deeply racist. That doesn't mean WE are.

We also believe corporate America is racist. BUT, we know there are a lot of companies who have implemented diversity programs. So while America is still very racist, it's getting better thanks to us.
If you don't want more immigrants, you're supporting the wrong party.

The more that "diversity programs" are pushed, the more it just encourages tribalism. Anti-white sentiment is part of the formula as well. If you're not white yourself, then I get it. If you are white, well, good luck -- you're going to need it when we reach South Africa's social paradigm.
Bullshit. Republicans aren't against legal immigration. As soon as the corporations tell them to import more they will.

And Republicans aren't against illegal employers. They play wack a mole with immigrants because it makes their racist base happy but they don't do a thing about illegal employers.
Oh I agree that the GOP doesn't do enough to prosecute employers of illegals. Neither party does.

The difference is that the Democrats want to go further with this. Amnesty for illegals is the end goal. They pushed a version of this with DACA. Others (like the DSA wing) want complete amnesty, which eventually entails citizenship.


"Between 1999 and 2003, work-site enforcement operations were scaled back 95 percent by the Immigration and Naturalization Service, which subsequently was merged into the Homeland Security Department. The number of employers prosecuted for unlawfully employing immigrants dropped from 182 in 1999 to four in 2003, and fines collected declined from $3.6 million to $212,000, according to federal statistics.

"In 1999, the United States initiated fines against 417 companies. In 2004, it issued fine notices to three."

Based on these numbers Clinton was doing his job on this and Bush stopped.
Bush was pretty shitty, but so was Obama. Trump was better on this issue though.
This is why I don't think Trump was sincere about illegal immigration. You can't be if you are unwilling to go after illegal employers and I mean HARD.


emonizing immigrants played a key role in Donald Trump’s campaign for the presidency, just as cracking down on “illegal” border crossings and whipping the base into a frenzy over a so-called migrant “invasion” has been a regular feature of his time in office and reelection efforts. But undocumented immigrants have also served another, lesser known but nevertheless vital function in the president’s life: providing cheap labor at his businesses. And not just, like, in years past, or in the first few months of his presidency, but as of—what’s that now?—today. Yes, it’s a tough job to foam at the mouth daily about people entering the country without going through the proper channels first, use it to justify separating families and sending people back to nations they’ve never known—all the while relying on them to keep your golf clubs running—but somebody’s got to do it!

The Washington Post reports that the Trump Organization currently employs a “roving crew of Latin American employees” to perform masonry and maintenance work at his winery and various golf clubs around the country. For almost two decades, the group has been comprised of workers who came into the US illegally—the penalty for which the president seemingly believes should be death—according to two former crew members. Another one, who still works for Trump, told reporters Joshua Partlow and David A. Fahrenthold that remains the case today. President Trump “doesn’t want undocumented people in the country,” said Jorge Castro, an Ecuadorian immigrant without legal status who left the company last spring after nine years. “But at his properties, he still has them.” He added: “If you’re a good worker, papers don’t matter.”
 
The average employee at Ford Motor Company earns a yearly salary of $50,602 per year

Nissan is $45,000
Compare the local cost of living. Nissan's biggest US plant is in Tennessee -- a considerably cheaper place to live than where most Ford plants are.

Yea but job security. And pensions. And profit sharing.

And the fact that not all the people in the Nissan plant are actual Nissan employees. Lots of temps at Nissan. At Ford there are lots of Ford employees.

Although Ford also employs temps today. This was something that the union had to give up. Before they insisted everyone working at Ford be a Ford employee. Today Ford outsources a lot of jobs too. Are you happy? If you are a shareholder or CEO or even a consumer you might be but as far as labor is concerned, workers today don't make what they used to.
I'm not saying I like outsourcing as a trend, but what keeps jobs here is more about trade policy than unionization. You can unionize all you want, but job security is more about whether a company continues to do production here. Unionization encourages a company to find cheaper labor elsewhere. Tariffs encourage production here.
We can tariff to force companies who want to sell here to make here and we can unionize so that the workers are paid fairly. Will the products be a little more expensive? Sure. But do you really notice when a washing machine costs $3200 instead of $2900? I don't. Or if a car is $300 more expensive because of labor costs? I don't. And it's worth it to have Americans working.
There's a happy medium somewhere. I'm not against the right to unionize. I'm just not in favor of people being forced to join a union either.
Well that whole "forcing people to join the union" is a way for idiots in the company to not have to pay their dues but then they get the benefits of being in a union without being in a union.

I say if you don't want to be in a union, don't go work for a company that is unionized.

Or, they shouldn't get the benefits that the union workers get but they do. Why? Because the company wants everyone to leave the union.

The employees voted to unionized. If I try to unionize my company and 25% of us want to unionize do I get to start a union for the 25 of us? No. Why not? The ones who want to be in a union should be allowed to be in a union. See what I'm saying? If the employees vote no union then no union. But if they vote to be a union then non union employees should not be allowed to come in and fuck it up.

Wouldn't the company only hire people who say they won't join the union?
What about public sector unions though? There is no competition involved in those markets. I can understand the above for something like Ford, but several government agencies are also unionized, and that has led to bloated costs to taxpayers. We can at least agree that those unions are bad, right?
 
American Corporations direct their advertising dollars towards individuals and culture that will make them the most money. Not only the most money now, but in the future. The largest number of individuals that have disposable wealth. The people who are the drivers of our culture.
There have never been more ads with mixed race couples and minorities. Corporate America knows where the US is moving. It is not the way of Trumpism, sexism, racism, white supremacists, conspiracy theorists.
Corporate America is signaling the end of Trumpism. They do so based on the strength of the dollar, not any political agenda.
May the evils of Trumpism continue to fade away along with those who support it. It cannot happen fast enough




EXPLAIN THE CANCELATIN OF ROSEANNE. OR COPS.
Explain how that country singer said racist things and his record sales are through the roof with white America

I just want to know why progressives encourage more minorities to come here while also believing we're deeply racist.

If I truly thought America was really racist, I'd discourage non-whites from coming here.
I don't want more immigrants. Not until wages go up for blue collar Americans already here. Is corporate America saying they can't find enough workers to fill the jobs they have open?

You are deeply racist. That doesn't mean WE are.

We also believe corporate America is racist. BUT, we know there are a lot of companies who have implemented diversity programs. So while America is still very racist, it's getting better thanks to us.
If you don't want more immigrants, you're supporting the wrong party.

The more that "diversity programs" are pushed, the more it just encourages tribalism. Anti-white sentiment is part of the formula as well. If you're not white yourself, then I get it. If you are white, well, good luck -- you're going to need it when we reach South Africa's social paradigm.
Bullshit. Republicans aren't against legal immigration. As soon as the corporations tell them to import more they will.

And Republicans aren't against illegal employers. They play wack a mole with immigrants because it makes their racist base happy but they don't do a thing about illegal employers.
Oh I agree that the GOP doesn't do enough to prosecute employers of illegals. Neither party does.

The difference is that the Democrats want to go further with this. Amnesty for illegals is the end goal. They pushed a version of this with DACA. Others (like the DSA wing) want complete amnesty, which eventually entails citizenship.


"Between 1999 and 2003, work-site enforcement operations were scaled back 95 percent by the Immigration and Naturalization Service, which subsequently was merged into the Homeland Security Department. The number of employers prosecuted for unlawfully employing immigrants dropped from 182 in 1999 to four in 2003, and fines collected declined from $3.6 million to $212,000, according to federal statistics.

"In 1999, the United States initiated fines against 417 companies. In 2004, it issued fine notices to three."

Based on these numbers Clinton was doing his job on this and Bush stopped.
Bush was pretty shitty, but so was Obama. Trump was better on this issue though.
He only pretended to be. He didn't stop illegal employers in fact he himself was an illegal employer well into his presidency. So yes he made this a issue because it was popular with all of us but he only played wack a mole with immigrants and the wall was a joke.
He did more to stop human trafficking at the border than his predecessors and Biden.
 
American Corporations direct their advertising dollars towards individuals and culture that will make them the most money. Not only the most money now, but in the future. The largest number of individuals that have disposable wealth. The people who are the drivers of our culture.
There have never been more ads with mixed race couples and minorities. Corporate America knows where the US is moving. It is not the way of Trumpism, sexism, racism, white supremacists, conspiracy theorists.
Corporate America is signaling the end of Trumpism. They do so based on the strength of the dollar, not any political agenda.
May the evils of Trumpism continue to fade away along with those who support it. It cannot happen fast enough




EXPLAIN THE CANCELATIN OF ROSEANNE. OR COPS.
Explain how that country singer said racist things and his record sales are through the roof with white America

I just want to know why progressives encourage more minorities to come here while also believing we're deeply racist.

If I truly thought America was really racist, I'd discourage non-whites from coming here.
I don't want more immigrants. Not until wages go up for blue collar Americans already here. Is corporate America saying they can't find enough workers to fill the jobs they have open?

You are deeply racist. That doesn't mean WE are.

We also believe corporate America is racist. BUT, we know there are a lot of companies who have implemented diversity programs. So while America is still very racist, it's getting better thanks to us.
If you don't want more immigrants, you're supporting the wrong party.

The more that "diversity programs" are pushed, the more it just encourages tribalism. Anti-white sentiment is part of the formula as well. If you're not white yourself, then I get it. If you are white, well, good luck -- you're going to need it when we reach South Africa's social paradigm.
Bullshit. Republicans aren't against legal immigration. As soon as the corporations tell them to import more they will.

And Republicans aren't against illegal employers. They play wack a mole with immigrants because it makes their racist base happy but they don't do a thing about illegal employers.
Oh I agree that the GOP doesn't do enough to prosecute employers of illegals. Neither party does.

The difference is that the Democrats want to go further with this. Amnesty for illegals is the end goal. They pushed a version of this with DACA. Others (like the DSA wing) want complete amnesty, which eventually entails citizenship.


"Between 1999 and 2003, work-site enforcement operations were scaled back 95 percent by the Immigration and Naturalization Service, which subsequently was merged into the Homeland Security Department. The number of employers prosecuted for unlawfully employing immigrants dropped from 182 in 1999 to four in 2003, and fines collected declined from $3.6 million to $212,000, according to federal statistics.

"In 1999, the United States initiated fines against 417 companies. In 2004, it issued fine notices to three."

Based on these numbers Clinton was doing his job on this and Bush stopped.
Bush was pretty shitty, but so was Obama. Trump was better on this issue though.
This is why I don't think Trump was sincere about illegal immigration. You can't be if you are unwilling to go after illegal employers and I mean HARD.


emonizing immigrants played a key role in Donald Trump’s campaign for the presidency, just as cracking down on “illegal” border crossings and whipping the base into a frenzy over a so-called migrant “invasion” has been a regular feature of his time in office and reelection efforts. But undocumented immigrants have also served another, lesser known but nevertheless vital function in the president’s life: providing cheap labor at his businesses. And not just, like, in years past, or in the first few months of his presidency, but as of—what’s that now?—today. Yes, it’s a tough job to foam at the mouth daily about people entering the country without going through the proper channels first, use it to justify separating families and sending people back to nations they’ve never known—all the while relying on them to keep your golf clubs running—but somebody’s got to do it!

The Washington Post reports that the Trump Organization currently employs a “roving crew of Latin American employees” to perform masonry and maintenance work at his winery and various golf clubs around the country. For almost two decades, the group has been comprised of workers who came into the US illegally—the penalty for which the president seemingly believes should be death—according to two former crew members. Another one, who still works for Trump, told reporters Joshua Partlow and David A. Fahrenthold that remains the case today. President Trump “doesn’t want undocumented people in the country,” said Jorge Castro, an Ecuadorian immigrant without legal status who left the company last spring after nine years. “But at his properties, he still has them.” He added: “If you’re a good worker, papers don’t matter.”
Fair enough, but I wouldn't say he "demonized" immigrants. That's just liberal spin.
 
American Corporations direct their advertising dollars towards individuals and culture that will make them the most money. Not only the most money now, but in the future. The largest number of individuals that have disposable wealth. The people who are the drivers of our culture.
There have never been more ads with mixed race couples and minorities. Corporate America knows where the US is moving. It is not the way of Trumpism, sexism, racism, white supremacists, conspiracy theorists.
Corporate America is signaling the end of Trumpism. They do so based on the strength of the dollar, not any political agenda.
May the evils of Trumpism continue to fade away along with those who support it. It cannot happen fast enough




EXPLAIN THE CANCELATIN OF ROSEANNE. OR COPS.
Explain how that country singer said racist things and his record sales are through the roof with white America

I just want to know why progressives encourage more minorities to come here while also believing we're deeply racist.

If I truly thought America was really racist, I'd discourage non-whites from coming here.
I don't want more immigrants. Not until wages go up for blue collar Americans already here. Is corporate America saying they can't find enough workers to fill the jobs they have open?

You are deeply racist. That doesn't mean WE are.

We also believe corporate America is racist. BUT, we know there are a lot of companies who have implemented diversity programs. So while America is still very racist, it's getting better thanks to us.
If you don't want more immigrants, you're supporting the wrong party.

The more that "diversity programs" are pushed, the more it just encourages tribalism. Anti-white sentiment is part of the formula as well. If you're not white yourself, then I get it. If you are white, well, good luck -- you're going to need it when we reach South Africa's social paradigm.
I talk to my brother who's a HR VP about this all the time. On one hand 95% of the white collar are white men. So it's hard to feel sorry for us when women and minorities are selected over us to be the new VP because the CEO wants more diversity. Sorry but the good old white boys club is being broken up. I'm not afraid of this. And I think it's only fair. But white men are now crying that they are the ones being discriminated against because of these diversity programs. Sorry but something has to be done. Bias is a big reason why 95% of white collar is white men. In a country as diverse as ours, that's got to change.

Hopefully one day the playing field will be level. Women and minorities won't be negatively affected by white man bias. There needs to be more women and minority CEO's.
 
American Corporations direct their advertising dollars towards individuals and culture that will make them the most money. Not only the most money now, but in the future. The largest number of individuals that have disposable wealth. The people who are the drivers of our culture.
There have never been more ads with mixed race couples and minorities. Corporate America knows where the US is moving. It is not the way of Trumpism, sexism, racism, white supremacists, conspiracy theorists.
Corporate America is signaling the end of Trumpism. They do so based on the strength of the dollar, not any political agenda.
May the evils of Trumpism continue to fade away along with those who support it. It cannot happen fast enough




EXPLAIN THE CANCELATIN OF ROSEANNE. OR COPS.
Explain how that country singer said racist things and his record sales are through the roof with white America

I just want to know why progressives encourage more minorities to come here while also believing we're deeply racist.

If I truly thought America was really racist, I'd discourage non-whites from coming here.
I don't want more immigrants. Not until wages go up for blue collar Americans already here. Is corporate America saying they can't find enough workers to fill the jobs they have open?

You are deeply racist. That doesn't mean WE are.

We also believe corporate America is racist. BUT, we know there are a lot of companies who have implemented diversity programs. So while America is still very racist, it's getting better thanks to us.
If you don't want more immigrants, you're supporting the wrong party.

The more that "diversity programs" are pushed, the more it just encourages tribalism. Anti-white sentiment is part of the formula as well. If you're not white yourself, then I get it. If you are white, well, good luck -- you're going to need it when we reach South Africa's social paradigm.
Bullshit. Republicans aren't against legal immigration. As soon as the corporations tell them to import more they will.

And Republicans aren't against illegal employers. They play wack a mole with immigrants because it makes their racist base happy but they don't do a thing about illegal employers.
Oh I agree that the GOP doesn't do enough to prosecute employers of illegals. Neither party does.

The difference is that the Democrats want to go further with this. Amnesty for illegals is the end goal. They pushed a version of this with DACA. Others (like the DSA wing) want complete amnesty, which eventually entails citizenship.


"Between 1999 and 2003, work-site enforcement operations were scaled back 95 percent by the Immigration and Naturalization Service, which subsequently was merged into the Homeland Security Department. The number of employers prosecuted for unlawfully employing immigrants dropped from 182 in 1999 to four in 2003, and fines collected declined from $3.6 million to $212,000, according to federal statistics.

"In 1999, the United States initiated fines against 417 companies. In 2004, it issued fine notices to three."

Based on these numbers Clinton was doing his job on this and Bush stopped.
Bush was pretty shitty, but so was Obama. Trump was better on this issue though.
This is why I don't think Trump was sincere about illegal immigration. You can't be if you are unwilling to go after illegal employers and I mean HARD.


emonizing immigrants played a key role in Donald Trump’s campaign for the presidency, just as cracking down on “illegal” border crossings and whipping the base into a frenzy over a so-called migrant “invasion” has been a regular feature of his time in office and reelection efforts. But undocumented immigrants have also served another, lesser known but nevertheless vital function in the president’s life: providing cheap labor at his businesses. And not just, like, in years past, or in the first few months of his presidency, but as of—what’s that now?—today. Yes, it’s a tough job to foam at the mouth daily about people entering the country without going through the proper channels first, use it to justify separating families and sending people back to nations they’ve never known—all the while relying on them to keep your golf clubs running—but somebody’s got to do it!

The Washington Post reports that the Trump Organization currently employs a “roving crew of Latin American employees” to perform masonry and maintenance work at his winery and various golf clubs around the country. For almost two decades, the group has been comprised of workers who came into the US illegally—the penalty for which the president seemingly believes should be death—according to two former crew members. Another one, who still works for Trump, told reporters Joshua Partlow and David A. Fahrenthold that remains the case today. President Trump “doesn’t want undocumented people in the country,” said Jorge Castro, an Ecuadorian immigrant without legal status who left the company last spring after nine years. “But at his properties, he still has them.” He added: “If you’re a good worker, papers don’t matter.”
Fair enough, but I wouldn't say he "demonized" immigrants. That's just liberal spin.

Really? Opinion | Trump's use of the Mexican rapist trope is as old as colonialism

You don't think he was trying to demonize illegals by calling them rapists?
 

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