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Do you understand that as Americans not only bought millions of new guns starting in the 1990s, and now over 19.4 million Americans can legally carry guns for self defense....
Our gun murder rate went down, not up, 49%.
Our gun crime rate went down, not up, 75%.....75%.......do you understand that?
Our violent crime rate went down 72%....
It isn't guns in the hands of normal people that increase gun crime....as those stats show......and that was over a 27 year period.......more than enough time to show that your theory is bullshit.
The problem...and you need to understand this....is that one political party, the democrat party, and their judges, prosecutors and politicians.....keep letting known, repeat, violent gun offenders out of jail and prison over and over again.....and it is this minority of violent offenders that they keep releasing that does 95% of all of our gun crime....primarily concentrated in cities controlled by the democrat party...
How about you respond to that point.......explain to us why our democrat party keeps doing that...while they target normal gun owners as the problem...
I freely acknowledge all of America's problems you have highlighted.
The Democratic party obviously has no answers to the problem of gun violence, even if it's acknowldeged as a problem.
The Democratic party targets 'normal' gun owners because they don't know what else to do.
Should they ignore some of their supporters who have lost little children to gun violence? What would you do if one of your children was gunned down in his/hr school?
Look pal, I'm really not very concerned about America's gun violence. It's for Americans, not Canadians.
But I am interested in the latest development in which Trump unconsciously brought America's working class people together as a force that will grow, against America's very wealthy who control everything in the land of the gun.
Things are starting to happen in America and are showing more signs of progress than any time since the government coup that murdered Kennedy.
Biden cheated a bit by handing the big 1.9T gift to the people, but he knew it would pay more for his popularity than any considerations over the damage to the economy.
Shoot that!
You've squandered the attention I've afforded you and you're off my radar until you can show you're smart enough to understand more than bullets come out of a gun barrel.Apparently, you don't. If you did, you wouldn't post the dumb things you post.
You've squandered the attention I've afforded you and you're off my radar until you can show you're smart enough to understand more than bullets come out of a gun barrel.Apparently, you don't. If you did, you wouldn't post the dumb things you post.
Take it out on me, not your dog, cat, or songbirds. The reasons why you are so filled with hate are going to come home to you and you'll be haunted by them if you have turned your anger on other living things.
Trust me! Most Canadians have been there too before we matured enough to put the guns aside.
If my kid was shot at a school, I would sue if it was a gun free zone. mass public shooters target gun free zones. The Sandy Hook shooter chose the elementary school because both the middle school and the high school, also in that town, both had armed police resource officers.........
Someone get it. Genocide has it's good points and we should start at the top or were done.For all you poor people who live in shit holes. You get what you voted for. Then you move to non shit holes to make more shit holes. Liquidation is the only way to keep your cancer away.
Suspect in custody. So now we will support this clown for the rest of his life. because the only ones that get death have to shoot up a Black church. The crazy is more than likely a picked on homosexual so heYeah, that is right Frank, the deep state along with the FBI, the CIA, the NSA joined by the AARP organized this shooting.
Boulder grocery massacre leaves 10 dead including cop, suspect in custody
Ten people were killed, including a veteran police officer, during a mass shooting Monday inside a grocery store in Boulder, Colo., authorities said at a late news conference.www.foxnews.com
This is something that seemed to die down during Trump...no pun intended...but why as soon as we get another democrat president we begin to see mass shooters again?...it happened under Clinton Obama and the anti 2nd amendment RINO Bush...makes me wonder if all of those stories about CIA mind control are true....
Lets face it...dems want to take guns away and need us to want that too...what better way than to create more random shootings....
The only reason democrats would even want to open schools would be to have the FBI orchestrate more school shootings
Bush is part of the same cabal as Clinton and Obama....so even though they acted like they hated each other...it was just political theater.Boulder grocery massacre leaves 10 dead including cop, suspect in custody
Ten people were killed, including a veteran police officer, during a mass shooting Monday inside a grocery store in Boulder, Colo., authorities said at a late news conference.
This is something that seemed to die down during Trump...no pun intended...but why as soon as we get another democrat president we begin to see mass shooters again?...it happened under Clinton Obama and the anti 2nd amendment RINO Bush...makes me wonder if all of those stories about CIA mind control are true....
Lets face it...dems want to take guns away and need us to want that too...what better way than to create more random shootings....
Actually, I disagree....obama is a racist, so he hated Bush and clinton.....he will play with them for his public image, but he is a racist through and through....
We are not looking at addressing that type of violence.26 were shot in gun free Chicago last weekend. Guess how many with rifles.Mass murder is his solution to us...so there's that...Is that all you gunnuts can post. We all know what is being discussed but hey, you assfucks keep posting this crap.Are we talking all guns? No. We are talking about assault weapon bans & magazine limitations.We aren't the Germans, and better yet we defeated them with (wait for it), guns.guns were taken from all Germans after WWIGuns were taken from Jews prior to war.Jeeeeez you preople, allow the Nazis some slack. It was wartime as opposed to *peace time in American where Americans are blowing each others brains out in the thousands!
* as close to peacetime as Ameica gets.
I know, I know, but they were military guns, and they were issued to the soldiers for a purpose... True, but you still had to have a citizenry capable of being trained, and having guns as civilians came in real handy as a starter when going in.
An AR-15 is not a military weapon, you dumb ass, and magzine bans are just stupid.......you can't justify magazine bans other than to say..."But we want to ban them..." That is all you have.
You guys want to limit magazines because you know that will make millions and millions of pistols illegal...since their standard magazine is 15-19 rounds.....a gun ban without voting to ban the guns....and lying to the American people about why you want the magazine ban.
And who knew they can't make a 10 round magazine.
Keep killing innocents & children so you can keep your toys.
What is your specific solution to mass murder?
His final solution?
I like his solution for ME to not have a gun. Why is that?
Cause you're less dead if he cuts off your head with an axe?
Because you can kill more, quicker, from a distance with an assault type weapon you fucking idiot.
Chicago can try to regulate access to guns but all the bad people do is run to a red state and buy what they want.
Moron....the majority of crime guns come from local gun stores...purchased by straw buyers who can pass any background check...you doofus.
Bush is part of the same cabal as Clinton and Obama....so even though they acted like they hated each other...it was just political theater.Boulder grocery massacre leaves 10 dead including cop, suspect in custody
Ten people were killed, including a veteran police officer, during a mass shooting Monday inside a grocery store in Boulder, Colo., authorities said at a late news conference.
This is something that seemed to die down during Trump...no pun intended...but why as soon as we get another democrat president we begin to see mass shooters again?...it happened under Clinton Obama and the anti 2nd amendment RINO Bush...makes me wonder if all of those stories about CIA mind control are true....
Lets face it...dems want to take guns away and need us to want that too...what better way than to create more random shootings....
Actually, I disagree....obama is a racist, so he hated Bush and clinton.....he will play with them for his public image, but he is a racist through and through....
Sorry, Mr Racist POS, but fighting for equality does not make one a racist.
We are not looking at addressing that type of violence.26 were shot in gun free Chicago last weekend. Guess how many with rifles.Mass murder is his solution to us...so there's that...Is that all you gunnuts can post. We all know what is being discussed but hey, you assfucks keep posting this crap.Are we talking all guns? No. We are talking about assault weapon bans & magazine limitations.We aren't the Germans, and better yet we defeated them with (wait for it), guns.guns were taken from all Germans after WWIGuns were taken from Jews prior to war.Jeeeeez you preople, allow the Nazis some slack. It was wartime as opposed to *peace time in American where Americans are blowing each others brains out in the thousands!
* as close to peacetime as Ameica gets.
I know, I know, but they were military guns, and they were issued to the soldiers for a purpose... True, but you still had to have a citizenry capable of being trained, and having guns as civilians came in real handy as a starter when going in.
An AR-15 is not a military weapon, you dumb ass, and magzine bans are just stupid.......you can't justify magazine bans other than to say..."But we want to ban them..." That is all you have.
You guys want to limit magazines because you know that will make millions and millions of pistols illegal...since their standard magazine is 15-19 rounds.....a gun ban without voting to ban the guns....and lying to the American people about why you want the magazine ban.
And who knew they can't make a 10 round magazine.
Keep killing innocents & children so you can keep your toys.
What is your specific solution to mass murder?
His final solution?
I like his solution for ME to not have a gun. Why is that?
Cause you're less dead if he cuts off your head with an axe?
Because you can kill more, quicker, from a distance with an assault type weapon you fucking idiot.
Chicago can try to regulate access to guns but all the bad people do is run to a red state and buy what they want.
Moron....the majority of crime guns come from local gun stores...purchased by straw buyers who can pass any background check...you doofus.
So, you are claiming the guns used in Chicago crime are purchased legally in Chicago?
We are not looking at addressing that type of violence.26 were shot in gun free Chicago last weekend. Guess how many with rifles.Mass murder is his solution to us...so there's that...Is that all you gunnuts can post. We all know what is being discussed but hey, you assfucks keep posting this crap.Are we talking all guns? No. We are talking about assault weapon bans & magazine limitations.We aren't the Germans, and better yet we defeated them with (wait for it), guns.guns were taken from all Germans after WWIGuns were taken from Jews prior to war.Jeeeeez you preople, allow the Nazis some slack. It was wartime as opposed to *peace time in American where Americans are blowing each others brains out in the thousands!
* as close to peacetime as Ameica gets.
I know, I know, but they were military guns, and they were issued to the soldiers for a purpose... True, but you still had to have a citizenry capable of being trained, and having guns as civilians came in real handy as a starter when going in.
An AR-15 is not a military weapon, you dumb ass, and magzine bans are just stupid.......you can't justify magazine bans other than to say..."But we want to ban them..." That is all you have.
You guys want to limit magazines because you know that will make millions and millions of pistols illegal...since their standard magazine is 15-19 rounds.....a gun ban without voting to ban the guns....and lying to the American people about why you want the magazine ban.
And who knew they can't make a 10 round magazine.
Keep killing innocents & children so you can keep your toys.
What is your specific solution to mass murder?
His final solution?
I like his solution for ME to not have a gun. Why is that?
Cause you're less dead if he cuts off your head with an axe?
Because you can kill more, quicker, from a distance with an assault type weapon you fucking idiot.
Chicago can try to regulate access to guns but all the bad people do is run to a red state and buy what they want.
Moron....the majority of crime guns come from local gun stores...purchased by straw buyers who can pass any background check...you doofus.
So, you are claiming the guns used in Chicago crime are purchased legally in Chicago?
We are not looking at addressing that type of violence.26 were shot in gun free Chicago last weekend. Guess how many with rifles.Mass murder is his solution to us...so there's that...Is that all you gunnuts can post. We all know what is being discussed but hey, you assfucks keep posting this crap.Are we talking all guns? No. We are talking about assault weapon bans & magazine limitations.We aren't the Germans, and better yet we defeated them with (wait for it), guns.guns were taken from all Germans after WWIGuns were taken from Jews prior to war.Jeeeeez you preople, allow the Nazis some slack. It was wartime as opposed to *peace time in American where Americans are blowing each others brains out in the thousands!
* as close to peacetime as Ameica gets.
I know, I know, but they were military guns, and they were issued to the soldiers for a purpose... True, but you still had to have a citizenry capable of being trained, and having guns as civilians came in real handy as a starter when going in.
An AR-15 is not a military weapon, you dumb ass, and magzine bans are just stupid.......you can't justify magazine bans other than to say..."But we want to ban them..." That is all you have.
You guys want to limit magazines because you know that will make millions and millions of pistols illegal...since their standard magazine is 15-19 rounds.....a gun ban without voting to ban the guns....and lying to the American people about why you want the magazine ban.
And who knew they can't make a 10 round magazine.
Keep killing innocents & children so you can keep your toys.
What is your specific solution to mass murder?
His final solution?
I like his solution for ME to not have a gun. Why is that?
Cause you're less dead if he cuts off your head with an axe?
Because you can kill more, quicker, from a distance with an assault type weapon you fucking idiot.
Chicago can try to regulate access to guns but all the bad people do is run to a red state and buy what they want.
Moron....the majority of crime guns come from local gun stores...purchased by straw buyers who can pass any background check...you doofus.
So, you are claiming the guns used in Chicago crime are purchased legally in Chicago?
The majority of crime guns are purchased legally through straw buyers for the gangs...or they are stolen....you idiot.....
If my kid was shot at a school, I would sue if it was a gun free zone. mass public shooters target gun free zones. The Sandy Hook shooter chose the elementary school because both the middle school and the high school, also in that town, both had armed police resource officers.........
Gun free zone or School grounds combat zone, it's all good when an American child is eliminated when he/she would have grown up to join the military and then go off to foreign lands killing other people.
It's your problem and you'll work it out, I'm pretty sure. Albeit with barrels of blood running down the streets of your cities!
Colorado has all the measures that
CWhy do you call it an ASSAULT rifle? It does not do that. It is an inanimate object. It assaults no one. You gun-grabbers are idiots. The government does not want you to own any gun that has even a slight chance of thwarting a hostile government takeover.Because it is. It's an AR-15 Clone. What this is going to do is to have the County reintroduce the bill that reads, instead of "Assault Rifle", it will read "Ar-15 and it's various Clones" and will be legal.
I don't call it an Assault Rifle. It's not a military rifle therefore it can't be called an Assault Rifle even though it's a clone of a M-16 Carbine (M-4). It IS an AR-15 Clone though. And if they law reads that the "AR-15 and it's various clones are banned" then it's legal as per the Federal Courts.
Good luck. I hope you're the one who gets to go door to door in order to collect all of them.
There you go again. You didn't pay attention to the history of the Thompson Model 1920 and the 1934 NFA law. There was no door to door collections and in 10 years, the Thompson Model 1920 became a non issue. The problem with you gunnutters is that you are so ill informed by the history of firearms you are dangerous to everyone around you and yourself.
It doesn't require a knowledge of history to blow some fucker's head off when he comes through my door at 3 in the morning.
Nor does it take history to blow anyone away in a Super Market either and that is what we are discussing. Pay attention.
No. What we are discussing is an act of Islamic terrorism committed by a radicalized Syrian refugee who wanted to kill Americans. And you Democrat's idiotic response in calling for more gun control to deny law-abiding Americans from owning firearms.
What you refuse to discuss is your party's failed immigration polices that are putting American citizens at the risk of being murdered, just like we saw today. You continue to ignore mental health issues, always blaming the crime on the gun. You don't even enforce the existing gun laws already on the books, many time letting the criminals walk away scott-free. You even ignore the fact that there are Islamic terrorists in this country who want to kill Americans, while you view conservative Americans as your real enemy.
One of the first things your idiot President did was to scrap President Trump's restrictions against entry to America from terrorist countries, most of which are Middle Eastern countries.
You ignorant fuckers just don't get it, do you? I sincerely doubt if you ever will.
No, that's what you want to steer it to. And Party Politics has nothing to do with the shooting. In fact, the Cops performed well, it's not a governments fault. It's not my fault. Hell, it's not even your fault. It's just a fruitcake that bought a gun to kill a bunch of people because he wanted to. No Hospital or Mental Health Care could have stopped it. There was no real warning. Just Bnagidy, Banidy Banidy, the deed is done.
if the assault rifle ban was still in effect, fewer would have died.
if better screening was in place, the mentally unstable shooter would not have been able to buy the gun.
if the magazine size was limited, fewer would have died.
I don't think so in this case. The features of the AR were never really realized. He was a crappy, inexperienced shooter. He was stopped before the speed and reloading factor of the AR became a factor. He could have done the same job with a 40 SW Semi Auto Handgun loaded with 15 rounds. He only had 15 556 rounds to work with so even a handgun with good killing power could have done the same job. And both weapons would have been legal.
In Colorado, the mag size IS limited to 15 and that is probably what save a lot of lives. He killed 11, wounded X number and ran out of ammo. And before he could swap out to another 15 round mag, got stopped cold. The Cops did their jobs fantastic. No good guy with a gun would have changed anything. Regardless of anything, those 11 would still be dead, those X number would still be wounded and he would still be under arrest. All of this went down in a matter of seconds.
Too bad gun owners are not as gullible as lefties who dont even know their own mindsRWNJ conspiracy theories thanks to the NRA, every time a democrat is in office, so the gullible will buy more guns, been happening for decades.Does it require a signed confession of intent from the left?NO ONE is claiming to taking away all the guns, except RW's
You people are blindly stumbling toward mass confiscation even if many libs like you dont realize it yet
gun grabbers praise any country that has totally banned firearms and its the obvious goal of the left in America
Yep, for decades that's what the NRA and RWNJ's claim every time a democrat is in office "total confiscation" of guns.
"Too bad gun owners are not as gullible as lefties who dont even know their own minds"?
That gets the morons to buy more weapons, they are convinced will be banned.
If they get banned why are RWNJ's buying more of them?
'Stable geniuses", like their dear leader?
I don't want to do anything to destroy your illusion, but you should ask the former SKS owners in California who had their weapons confiscated if they gave them up willingly.
Not my illusion, RW'S are buying more of them.
As far as the SKS, is an old weapon, not used by any military in the world anymore and has a fixed magazine that only holds 10 rounds.
From what I read they were given $230, IF you refused to register it and complied with a background check.
So, they weren't confiscated, unless the person, let them be.
So, they took a perfectly legal firearm and declared them to be illegal if you didn't ask for their permission to keep it and you don't see that as a problem? Good grief, you're an idiot.
Nothing like the RW morons that buy something convinced it will be banned.
No one is more brain dead than that.
"They gonna ban AR's, I'm a gonna git two".
Oh, excuse me. I didn't know there was a limit on how many firearms a person is allowed to own. Or how they're allowed to spend their own money.
I'm glad you straightened me out, would you like to be my personal financial advisor? You might as well be, since you've appointed yourself as such.
I've had guns since Reagan was president.Most conservatives have been fully stocked with guns and ammo since clinton was presidentNothing like the RW morons that buy something convinced it will be banned.
I think much of the current sales are going to libs who “woke” up to the threat their own policies are to themselves
the husband and wife lawyers in St Louis for instance
Been that way for decades, notice how RW's are suddenly screaming about the debt too.Colorado has all the measures that
CWhy do you call it an ASSAULT rifle? It does not do that. It is an inanimate object. It assaults no one. You gun-grabbers are idiots. The government does not want you to own any gun that has even a slight chance of thwarting a hostile government takeover.Because it is. It's an AR-15 Clone. What this is going to do is to have the County reintroduce the bill that reads, instead of "Assault Rifle", it will read "Ar-15 and it's various Clones" and will be legal.
I don't call it an Assault Rifle. It's not a military rifle therefore it can't be called an Assault Rifle even though it's a clone of a M-16 Carbine (M-4). It IS an AR-15 Clone though. And if they law reads that the "AR-15 and it's various clones are banned" then it's legal as per the Federal Courts.
Good luck. I hope you're the one who gets to go door to door in order to collect all of them.
There you go again. You didn't pay attention to the history of the Thompson Model 1920 and the 1934 NFA law. There was no door to door collections and in 10 years, the Thompson Model 1920 became a non issue. The problem with you gunnutters is that you are so ill informed by the history of firearms you are dangerous to everyone around you and yourself.
It doesn't require a knowledge of history to blow some fucker's head off when he comes through my door at 3 in the morning.
Nor does it take history to blow anyone away in a Super Market either and that is what we are discussing. Pay attention.
No. What we are discussing is an act of Islamic terrorism committed by a radicalized Syrian refugee who wanted to kill Americans. And you Democrat's idiotic response in calling for more gun control to deny law-abiding Americans from owning firearms.
What you refuse to discuss is your party's failed immigration polices that are putting American citizens at the risk of being murdered, just like we saw today. You continue to ignore mental health issues, always blaming the crime on the gun. You don't even enforce the existing gun laws already on the books, many time letting the criminals walk away scott-free. You even ignore the fact that there are Islamic terrorists in this country who want to kill Americans, while you view conservative Americans as your real enemy.
One of the first things your idiot President did was to scrap President Trump's restrictions against entry to America from terrorist countries, most of which are Middle Eastern countries.
You ignorant fuckers just don't get it, do you? I sincerely doubt if you ever will.
No, that's what you want to steer it to. And Party Politics has nothing to do with the shooting. In fact, the Cops performed well, it's not a governments fault. It's not my fault. Hell, it's not even your fault. It's just a fruitcake that bought a gun to kill a bunch of people because he wanted to. No Hospital or Mental Health Care could have stopped it. There was no real warning. Just Bnagidy, Banidy Banidy, the deed is done.
if the assault rifle ban was still in effect, fewer would have died.
if better screening was in place, the mentally unstable shooter would not have been able to buy the gun.
if the magazine size was limited, fewer would have died.
I don't think so in this case. The features of the AR were never really realized. He was a crappy, inexperienced shooter. He was stopped before the speed and reloading factor of the AR became a factor. He could have done the same job with a 40 SW Semi Auto Handgun loaded with 15 rounds. He only had 15 556 rounds to work with so even a handgun with good killing power could have done the same job. And both weapons would have been legal.
In Colorado, the mag size IS limited to 15 and that is probably what save a lot of lives. He killed 11, wounded X number and ran out of ammo. And before he could swap out to another 15 round mag, got stopped cold. The Cops did their jobs fantastic. No good guy with a gun would have changed anything. Regardless of anything, those 11 would still be dead, those X number would still be wounded and he would still be under arrest. All of this went down in a matter of seconds.
Too bad gun owners are not as gullible as lefties who dont even know their own mindsRWNJ conspiracy theories thanks to the NRA, every time a democrat is in office, so the gullible will buy more guns, been happening for decades.Does it require a signed confession of intent from the left?NO ONE is claiming to taking away all the guns, except RW's
You people are blindly stumbling toward mass confiscation even if many libs like you dont realize it yet
gun grabbers praise any country that has totally banned firearms and its the obvious goal of the left in America
Yep, for decades that's what the NRA and RWNJ's claim every time a democrat is in office "total confiscation" of guns.
"Too bad gun owners are not as gullible as lefties who dont even know their own minds"?
That gets the morons to buy more weapons, they are convinced will be banned.
If they get banned why are RWNJ's buying more of them?
'Stable geniuses", like their dear leader?
I don't want to do anything to destroy your illusion, but you should ask the former SKS owners in California who had their weapons confiscated if they gave them up willingly.
Not my illusion, RW'S are buying more of them.
As far as the SKS, is an old weapon, not used by any military in the world anymore and has a fixed magazine that only holds 10 rounds.
From what I read they were given $230, IF you refused to register it and complied with a background check.
So, they weren't confiscated, unless the person, let them be.
So, they took a perfectly legal firearm and declared them to be illegal if you didn't ask for their permission to keep it and you don't see that as a problem? Good grief, you're an idiot.
Nothing like the RW morons that buy something convinced it will be banned.
No one is more brain dead than that.
"They gonna ban AR's, I'm a gonna git two".
Yes you are correct. The Cult strikes again.
Been that way for decades, notice how RW's are suddenly screaming about the debt too.Colorado has all the measures that
CWhy do you call it an ASSAULT rifle? It does not do that. It is an inanimate object. It assaults no one. You gun-grabbers are idiots. The government does not want you to own any gun that has even a slight chance of thwarting a hostile government takeover.Because it is. It's an AR-15 Clone. What this is going to do is to have the County reintroduce the bill that reads, instead of "Assault Rifle", it will read "Ar-15 and it's various Clones" and will be legal.
I don't call it an Assault Rifle. It's not a military rifle therefore it can't be called an Assault Rifle even though it's a clone of a M-16 Carbine (M-4). It IS an AR-15 Clone though. And if they law reads that the "AR-15 and it's various clones are banned" then it's legal as per the Federal Courts.
Good luck. I hope you're the one who gets to go door to door in order to collect all of them.
There you go again. You didn't pay attention to the history of the Thompson Model 1920 and the 1934 NFA law. There was no door to door collections and in 10 years, the Thompson Model 1920 became a non issue. The problem with you gunnutters is that you are so ill informed by the history of firearms you are dangerous to everyone around you and yourself.
It doesn't require a knowledge of history to blow some fucker's head off when he comes through my door at 3 in the morning.
Nor does it take history to blow anyone away in a Super Market either and that is what we are discussing. Pay attention.
No. What we are discussing is an act of Islamic terrorism committed by a radicalized Syrian refugee who wanted to kill Americans. And you Democrat's idiotic response in calling for more gun control to deny law-abiding Americans from owning firearms.
What you refuse to discuss is your party's failed immigration polices that are putting American citizens at the risk of being murdered, just like we saw today. You continue to ignore mental health issues, always blaming the crime on the gun. You don't even enforce the existing gun laws already on the books, many time letting the criminals walk away scott-free. You even ignore the fact that there are Islamic terrorists in this country who want to kill Americans, while you view conservative Americans as your real enemy.
One of the first things your idiot President did was to scrap President Trump's restrictions against entry to America from terrorist countries, most of which are Middle Eastern countries.
You ignorant fuckers just don't get it, do you? I sincerely doubt if you ever will.
No, that's what you want to steer it to. And Party Politics has nothing to do with the shooting. In fact, the Cops performed well, it's not a governments fault. It's not my fault. Hell, it's not even your fault. It's just a fruitcake that bought a gun to kill a bunch of people because he wanted to. No Hospital or Mental Health Care could have stopped it. There was no real warning. Just Bnagidy, Banidy Banidy, the deed is done.
if the assault rifle ban was still in effect, fewer would have died.
if better screening was in place, the mentally unstable shooter would not have been able to buy the gun.
if the magazine size was limited, fewer would have died.
I don't think so in this case. The features of the AR were never really realized. He was a crappy, inexperienced shooter. He was stopped before the speed and reloading factor of the AR became a factor. He could have done the same job with a 40 SW Semi Auto Handgun loaded with 15 rounds. He only had 15 556 rounds to work with so even a handgun with good killing power could have done the same job. And both weapons would have been legal.
In Colorado, the mag size IS limited to 15 and that is probably what save a lot of lives. He killed 11, wounded X number and ran out of ammo. And before he could swap out to another 15 round mag, got stopped cold. The Cops did their jobs fantastic. No good guy with a gun would have changed anything. Regardless of anything, those 11 would still be dead, those X number would still be wounded and he would still be under arrest. All of this went down in a matter of seconds.
Too bad gun owners are not as gullible as lefties who dont even know their own mindsRWNJ conspiracy theories thanks to the NRA, every time a democrat is in office, so the gullible will buy more guns, been happening for decades.Does it require a signed confession of intent from the left?NO ONE is claiming to taking away all the guns, except RW's
You people are blindly stumbling toward mass confiscation even if many libs like you dont realize it yet
gun grabbers praise any country that has totally banned firearms and its the obvious goal of the left in America
Yep, for decades that's what the NRA and RWNJ's claim every time a democrat is in office "total confiscation" of guns.
"Too bad gun owners are not as gullible as lefties who dont even know their own minds"?
That gets the morons to buy more weapons, they are convinced will be banned.
If they get banned why are RWNJ's buying more of them?
'Stable geniuses", like their dear leader?
I don't want to do anything to destroy your illusion, but you should ask the former SKS owners in California who had their weapons confiscated if they gave them up willingly.
Not my illusion, RW'S are buying more of them.
As far as the SKS, is an old weapon, not used by any military in the world anymore and has a fixed magazine that only holds 10 rounds.
From what I read they were given $230, IF you refused to register it and complied with a background check.
So, they weren't confiscated, unless the person, let them be.
So, they took a perfectly legal firearm and declared them to be illegal if you didn't ask for their permission to keep it and you don't see that as a problem? Good grief, you're an idiot.
Nothing like the RW morons that buy something convinced it will be banned.
No one is more brain dead than that.
"They gonna ban AR's, I'm a gonna git two".
Yes you are correct. The Cult strikes again.
Why don't you enlighten us? If it were possible for the gun grabbers to do it through the constitutionally prescribed means of the amendment process, it would have been done by now. You can't and you know you can't so you'll try to do an end-run around it. All you'll accomplish is to further divide the nation and it will lead to multiple states and jurisdictions that will pass laws to nullify such edicts. IOW, you're gonna need a LOT more Brownshirts to kick doors if you want to take them. Don't waste my time laughing about that not being the goal. Good Marxists KNOW they can't rule until people have been disarmed. Yeah... THIS move is going to take a lot more skin in the game than just stealing an election. If you think gun rights is another "Right Wing" cause, you're more ignorant of the reality than most. Come for them and you'll see Democrats standing against you as well. I say "YOU" rhetorically. That's the other fantasy you folks have. You expect better men and women than yourselves to do the door-kicking.Imagine their surprise when they finally realize they can't destroy 2A with simply stealing an election. Oh no... THAT plan is going to require them to work and risk and those aren't 2 actions they know much about.Too bad gun owners are not as gullible as lefties who dont even know their own mindsRWNJ conspiracy theories thanks to the NRA, every time a democrat is in office, so the gullible will buy more guns, been happening for decades.Does it require a signed confession of intent from the left?NO ONE is claiming to taking away all the guns, except RW's
You people are blindly stumbling toward mass confiscation even if many libs like you dont realize it yet
gun grabbers praise any country that has totally banned firearms and its the obvious goal of the left in America
Imagine RWNJ's surprise when some one tells them what it takes to ratify or destroy an amendment.
The debt? I stopped worrying about THAT during Bush II. Once the Tan Messiah came along and added a few trillion and Trump follows up with a few more, the end is in sight. The great reset is going to be an event that thins the herd. Good luck if you live in or near a blue cesspool. Your voter base will eat their own then come for you.Been that way for decades, notice how RW's are suddenly screaming about the debt too.Colorado has all the measures that
CWhy do you call it an ASSAULT rifle? It does not do that. It is an inanimate object. It assaults no one. You gun-grabbers are idiots. The government does not want you to own any gun that has even a slight chance of thwarting a hostile government takeover.Because it is. It's an AR-15 Clone. What this is going to do is to have the County reintroduce the bill that reads, instead of "Assault Rifle", it will read "Ar-15 and it's various Clones" and will be legal.
I don't call it an Assault Rifle. It's not a military rifle therefore it can't be called an Assault Rifle even though it's a clone of a M-16 Carbine (M-4). It IS an AR-15 Clone though. And if they law reads that the "AR-15 and it's various clones are banned" then it's legal as per the Federal Courts.
Good luck. I hope you're the one who gets to go door to door in order to collect all of them.
There you go again. You didn't pay attention to the history of the Thompson Model 1920 and the 1934 NFA law. There was no door to door collections and in 10 years, the Thompson Model 1920 became a non issue. The problem with you gunnutters is that you are so ill informed by the history of firearms you are dangerous to everyone around you and yourself.
It doesn't require a knowledge of history to blow some fucker's head off when he comes through my door at 3 in the morning.
Nor does it take history to blow anyone away in a Super Market either and that is what we are discussing. Pay attention.
No. What we are discussing is an act of Islamic terrorism committed by a radicalized Syrian refugee who wanted to kill Americans. And you Democrat's idiotic response in calling for more gun control to deny law-abiding Americans from owning firearms.
What you refuse to discuss is your party's failed immigration polices that are putting American citizens at the risk of being murdered, just like we saw today. You continue to ignore mental health issues, always blaming the crime on the gun. You don't even enforce the existing gun laws already on the books, many time letting the criminals walk away scott-free. You even ignore the fact that there are Islamic terrorists in this country who want to kill Americans, while you view conservative Americans as your real enemy.
One of the first things your idiot President did was to scrap President Trump's restrictions against entry to America from terrorist countries, most of which are Middle Eastern countries.
You ignorant fuckers just don't get it, do you? I sincerely doubt if you ever will.
No, that's what you want to steer it to. And Party Politics has nothing to do with the shooting. In fact, the Cops performed well, it's not a governments fault. It's not my fault. Hell, it's not even your fault. It's just a fruitcake that bought a gun to kill a bunch of people because he wanted to. No Hospital or Mental Health Care could have stopped it. There was no real warning. Just Bnagidy, Banidy Banidy, the deed is done.
if the assault rifle ban was still in effect, fewer would have died.
if better screening was in place, the mentally unstable shooter would not have been able to buy the gun.
if the magazine size was limited, fewer would have died.
I don't think so in this case. The features of the AR were never really realized. He was a crappy, inexperienced shooter. He was stopped before the speed and reloading factor of the AR became a factor. He could have done the same job with a 40 SW Semi Auto Handgun loaded with 15 rounds. He only had 15 556 rounds to work with so even a handgun with good killing power could have done the same job. And both weapons would have been legal.
In Colorado, the mag size IS limited to 15 and that is probably what save a lot of lives. He killed 11, wounded X number and ran out of ammo. And before he could swap out to another 15 round mag, got stopped cold. The Cops did their jobs fantastic. No good guy with a gun would have changed anything. Regardless of anything, those 11 would still be dead, those X number would still be wounded and he would still be under arrest. All of this went down in a matter of seconds.
Too bad gun owners are not as gullible as lefties who dont even know their own mindsRWNJ conspiracy theories thanks to the NRA, every time a democrat is in office, so the gullible will buy more guns, been happening for decades.Does it require a signed confession of intent from the left?NO ONE is claiming to taking away all the guns, except RW's
You people are blindly stumbling toward mass confiscation even if many libs like you dont realize it yet
gun grabbers praise any country that has totally banned firearms and its the obvious goal of the left in America
Yep, for decades that's what the NRA and RWNJ's claim every time a democrat is in office "total confiscation" of guns.
"Too bad gun owners are not as gullible as lefties who dont even know their own minds"?
That gets the morons to buy more weapons, they are convinced will be banned.
If they get banned why are RWNJ's buying more of them?
'Stable geniuses", like their dear leader?
I don't want to do anything to destroy your illusion, but you should ask the former SKS owners in California who had their weapons confiscated if they gave them up willingly.
Not my illusion, RW'S are buying more of them.
As far as the SKS, is an old weapon, not used by any military in the world anymore and has a fixed magazine that only holds 10 rounds.
From what I read they were given $230, IF you refused to register it and complied with a background check.
So, they weren't confiscated, unless the person, let them be.
So, they took a perfectly legal firearm and declared them to be illegal if you didn't ask for their permission to keep it and you don't see that as a problem? Good grief, you're an idiot.
Nothing like the RW morons that buy something convinced it will be banned.
No one is more brain dead than that.
"They gonna ban AR's, I'm a gonna git two".
Yes you are correct. The Cult strikes again.
Why don't you enlighten us? If it were possible for the gun grabbers to do it through the constitutionally prescribed means of the amendment process, it would have been done by now. You can't and you know you can't so you'll try to do an end-run around it. All you'll accomplish is to further divide the nation and it will lead to multiple states and jurisdictions that will pass laws to nullify such edicts. IOW, you're gonna need a LOT more Brownshirts to kick doors if you want to take them. Don't waste my time laughing about that not being the goal. Good Marxists KNOW they can't rule until people have been disarmed. Yeah... THIS move is going to take a lot more skin in the game than just stealing an election. If you think gun rights is another "Right Wing" cause, you're more ignorant of the reality than most. Come for them and you'll see Democrats standing against you as well. I say "YOU" rhetorically. That's the other fantasy you folks have. You expect better men and women than yourselves to do the door-kicking.Imagine their surprise when they finally realize they can't destroy 2A with simply stealing an election. Oh no... THAT plan is going to require them to work and risk and those aren't 2 actions they know much about.Too bad gun owners are not as gullible as lefties who dont even know their own mindsRWNJ conspiracy theories thanks to the NRA, every time a democrat is in office, so the gullible will buy more guns, been happening for decades.Does it require a signed confession of intent from the left?NO ONE is claiming to taking away all the guns, except RW's
You people are blindly stumbling toward mass confiscation even if many libs like you dont realize it yet
gun grabbers praise any country that has totally banned firearms and its the obvious goal of the left in America
Imagine RWNJ's surprise when some one tells them what it takes to ratify or destroy an amendment.
The debt? I stopped worrying about THAT during Bush II. Once the Tan Messiah came along and added a few trillion and Trump follows up with a few more, the end is in sight. The great reset is going to be an event that thins the herd. Good luck if you live in or near a blue cesspool. Your voter base will eat their own then come for you.Been that way for decades, notice how RW's are suddenly screaming about the debt too.Colorado has all the measures that
CWhy do you call it an ASSAULT rifle? It does not do that. It is an inanimate object. It assaults no one. You gun-grabbers are idiots. The government does not want you to own any gun that has even a slight chance of thwarting a hostile government takeover.Because it is. It's an AR-15 Clone. What this is going to do is to have the County reintroduce the bill that reads, instead of "Assault Rifle", it will read "Ar-15 and it's various Clones" and will be legal.
I don't call it an Assault Rifle. It's not a military rifle therefore it can't be called an Assault Rifle even though it's a clone of a M-16 Carbine (M-4). It IS an AR-15 Clone though. And if they law reads that the "AR-15 and it's various clones are banned" then it's legal as per the Federal Courts.
Good luck. I hope you're the one who gets to go door to door in order to collect all of them.
There you go again. You didn't pay attention to the history of the Thompson Model 1920 and the 1934 NFA law. There was no door to door collections and in 10 years, the Thompson Model 1920 became a non issue. The problem with you gunnutters is that you are so ill informed by the history of firearms you are dangerous to everyone around you and yourself.
It doesn't require a knowledge of history to blow some fucker's head off when he comes through my door at 3 in the morning.
Nor does it take history to blow anyone away in a Super Market either and that is what we are discussing. Pay attention.
No. What we are discussing is an act of Islamic terrorism committed by a radicalized Syrian refugee who wanted to kill Americans. And you Democrat's idiotic response in calling for more gun control to deny law-abiding Americans from owning firearms.
What you refuse to discuss is your party's failed immigration polices that are putting American citizens at the risk of being murdered, just like we saw today. You continue to ignore mental health issues, always blaming the crime on the gun. You don't even enforce the existing gun laws already on the books, many time letting the criminals walk away scott-free. You even ignore the fact that there are Islamic terrorists in this country who want to kill Americans, while you view conservative Americans as your real enemy.
One of the first things your idiot President did was to scrap President Trump's restrictions against entry to America from terrorist countries, most of which are Middle Eastern countries.
You ignorant fuckers just don't get it, do you? I sincerely doubt if you ever will.
No, that's what you want to steer it to. And Party Politics has nothing to do with the shooting. In fact, the Cops performed well, it's not a governments fault. It's not my fault. Hell, it's not even your fault. It's just a fruitcake that bought a gun to kill a bunch of people because he wanted to. No Hospital or Mental Health Care could have stopped it. There was no real warning. Just Bnagidy, Banidy Banidy, the deed is done.
if the assault rifle ban was still in effect, fewer would have died.
if better screening was in place, the mentally unstable shooter would not have been able to buy the gun.
if the magazine size was limited, fewer would have died.
I don't think so in this case. The features of the AR were never really realized. He was a crappy, inexperienced shooter. He was stopped before the speed and reloading factor of the AR became a factor. He could have done the same job with a 40 SW Semi Auto Handgun loaded with 15 rounds. He only had 15 556 rounds to work with so even a handgun with good killing power could have done the same job. And both weapons would have been legal.
In Colorado, the mag size IS limited to 15 and that is probably what save a lot of lives. He killed 11, wounded X number and ran out of ammo. And before he could swap out to another 15 round mag, got stopped cold. The Cops did their jobs fantastic. No good guy with a gun would have changed anything. Regardless of anything, those 11 would still be dead, those X number would still be wounded and he would still be under arrest. All of this went down in a matter of seconds.
Too bad gun owners are not as gullible as lefties who dont even know their own mindsRWNJ conspiracy theories thanks to the NRA, every time a democrat is in office, so the gullible will buy more guns, been happening for decades.Does it require a signed confession of intent from the left?NO ONE is claiming to taking away all the guns, except RW's
You people are blindly stumbling toward mass confiscation even if many libs like you dont realize it yet
gun grabbers praise any country that has totally banned firearms and its the obvious goal of the left in America
Yep, for decades that's what the NRA and RWNJ's claim every time a democrat is in office "total confiscation" of guns.
"Too bad gun owners are not as gullible as lefties who dont even know their own minds"?
That gets the morons to buy more weapons, they are convinced will be banned.
If they get banned why are RWNJ's buying more of them?
'Stable geniuses", like their dear leader?
I don't want to do anything to destroy your illusion, but you should ask the former SKS owners in California who had their weapons confiscated if they gave them up willingly.
Not my illusion, RW'S are buying more of them.
As far as the SKS, is an old weapon, not used by any military in the world anymore and has a fixed magazine that only holds 10 rounds.
From what I read they were given $230, IF you refused to register it and complied with a background check.
So, they weren't confiscated, unless the person, let them be.
So, they took a perfectly legal firearm and declared them to be illegal if you didn't ask for their permission to keep it and you don't see that as a problem? Good grief, you're an idiot.
Nothing like the RW morons that buy something convinced it will be banned.
No one is more brain dead than that.
"They gonna ban AR's, I'm a gonna git two".
Yes you are correct. The Cult strikes again.
