Another active shooter

[Mac-7]

Like I said, we will protect your rights in spite of yourself.

I dont believe you

when the thundering herd of liberalism is on the move its unstoppable

you’ll say your sorry and how you never imagined it would go that far

But I’m telling you now how this will end thanks to gullible dupes like you

 

[Mac-7]

Then again, never brandished them like the St Louis couple because they would HAVE been taken.

The St Louis couple made the right choice

better to be harrassed by a liberal city hall than mobbed and maybe seriously innured or killed by Black Lies Matter thugs

 

[Mac-7]

Takes 66% of congress, 66% of states and 66% of the senate to eliminate or ratify an amendment.

Hense the end run by gun grabbers

 

[JGalt]

Colorado has all the measures that

Because it is. It's an AR-15 Clone. What this is going to do is to have the County reintroduce the bill that reads, instead of "Assault Rifle", it will read "Ar-15 and it's various Clones" and will be legal.

Why do you call it an ASSAULT rifle? It does not do that. It is an inanimate object. It assaults no one. You gun-grabbers are idiots. The government does not want you to own any gun that has even a slight chance of thwarting a hostile government takeover.

I don't call it an Assault Rifle. It's not a military rifle therefore it can't be called an Assault Rifle even though it's a clone of a M-16 Carbine (M-4). It IS an AR-15 Clone though. And if they law reads that the "AR-15 and it's various clones are banned" then it's legal as per the Federal Courts.

Good luck. I hope you're the one who gets to go door to door in order to collect all of them.

There you go again. You didn't pay attention to the history of the Thompson Model 1920 and the 1934 NFA law. There was no door to door collections and in 10 years, the Thompson Model 1920 became a non issue. The problem with you gunnutters is that you are so ill informed by the history of firearms you are dangerous to everyone around you and yourself.

It doesn't require a knowledge of history to blow some fucker's head off when he comes through my door at 3 in the morning.

Nor does it take history to blow anyone away in a Super Market either and that is what we are discussing. Pay attention.

No. What we are discussing is an act of Islamic terrorism committed by a radicalized Syrian refugee who wanted to kill Americans. And you Democrat's idiotic response in calling for more gun control to deny law-abiding Americans from owning firearms.

What you refuse to discuss is your party's failed immigration polices that are putting American citizens at the risk of being murdered, just like we saw today. You continue to ignore mental health issues, always blaming the crime on the gun. You don't even enforce the existing gun laws already on the books, many time letting the criminals walk away scott-free. You even ignore the fact that there are Islamic terrorists in this country who want to kill Americans, while you view conservative Americans as your real enemy.

One of the first things your idiot President did was to scrap President Trump's restrictions against entry to America from terrorist countries, most of which are Middle Eastern countries.

You ignorant fuckers just don't get it, do you? I sincerely doubt if you ever will.

No, that's what you want to steer it to. And Party Politics has nothing to do with the shooting. In fact, the Cops performed well, it's not a governments fault. It's not my fault. Hell, it's not even your fault. It's just a fruitcake that bought a gun to kill a bunch of people because he wanted to. No Hospital or Mental Health Care could have stopped it. There was no real warning. Just Bnagidy, Banidy Banidy, the deed is done.

if the assault rifle ban was still in effect, fewer would have died.


if better screening was in place, the mentally unstable shooter would not have been able to buy the gun.

if the magazine size was limited, fewer would have died.

I don't think so in this case. The features of the AR were never really realized. He was a crappy, inexperienced shooter. He was stopped before the speed and reloading factor of the AR became a factor. He could have done the same job with a 40 SW Semi Auto Handgun loaded with 15 rounds. He only had 15 556 rounds to work with so even a handgun with good killing power could have done the same job. And both weapons would have been legal.

In Colorado, the mag size IS limited to 15 and that is probably what save a lot of lives. He killed 11, wounded X number and ran out of ammo. And before he could swap out to another 15 round mag, got stopped cold. The Cops did their jobs fantastic. No good guy with a gun would have changed anything. Regardless of anything, those 11 would still be dead, those X number would still be wounded and he would still be under arrest. All of this went down in a matter of seconds.

C

NO ONE is claiming to taking away all the guns, except RW's

Does it require a signed confession of intent from the left?

You people are blindly stumbling toward mass confiscation even if many libs like you dont realize it yet

RWNJ conspiracy theories thanks to the NRA, every time a democrat is in office, so the gullible will buy more guns, been happening for decades.

Too bad gun owners are not as gullible as lefties who dont even know their own minds

gun grabbers praise any country that has totally banned firearms and its the obvious goal of the left in America

Yep, for decades that's what the NRA and RWNJ's claim every time a democrat is in office "total confiscation" of guns.

"Too bad gun owners are not as gullible as lefties who dont even know their own minds"?

That gets the morons to buy more weapons, they are convinced will be banned.

If they get banned why are RWNJ's buying more of them?

'Stable geniuses", like their dear leader?

I don't want to do anything to destroy your illusion, but you should ask the former SKS owners in California who had their weapons confiscated if they gave them up willingly.

Not my illusion, RW'S are buying more of them.
As far as the SKS, is an old weapon, not used by any military in the world anymore and has a fixed magazine that only holds 10 rounds.
From what I read they were given $230, IF you refused to register it and complied with a background check.
So, they weren't confiscated, unless the person, let them be.

So, they took a perfectly legal firearm and declared them to be illegal if you didn't ask for their permission to keep it and you don't see that as a problem? Good grief, you're an idiot.

Nothing like the RW morons that buy something convinced it will be banned.
No one is more brain dead than that.
"They gonna ban AR's, I'm a gonna git two".

Yes you are correct. The Cult strikes again.

Been that way for decades, notice how RW's are suddenly screaming about the debt too.

Maybe you and I should invent something and then claim it's being banned by the Liberals. We can call it "Dog Shit in a Bag". It'll sell like hotcakes.

Dog shit in a bag?

Don't talk that way about your President.

 

[beagle9]

Democrat Administrations and shootings go like peaches an cream together

they think they will achieve their gun control agenda faster that way, with blood, death and gore....so I guess we have to be prepared for more show

the Rats didn't steal this election for nothing

Here's what I can't understand..... WHY AREN'T THE ACCUSED (THE WHITE'S IN THIS COUNTRY), FORMING AN ALLIANCE AGAINST FALSE ACCUSATIONS BY THE LEFT OF BEING TERRORIST, MASS SHOOTERS, RACIST, BIGOT'S, AND ALL THE OTHER FALSE NARRATIVES AND BULLCRAP THAT THE LEFT HAS FORMULATED AGAINST THEM ON THEIR RACE ?????? THE DEFAMATION LAW SUIT SHOULD BE SO HUGE THAT IT BREAKS EVERY LIBERAL LYING NEWS NETWORK, AND EVERY WICKED EVIL LYING POLITICIAN IN THIS COUNTRY.

 

[Donald H]

If my kid was shot at a school, I would sue if it was a gun free zone. mass public shooters target gun free zones.

And you would be laughed out of any court, even an American court!
One angry and sick muthafkr for sure.
Go kill a songbird with your gun, or even just pull the wings off of your collection of house flies.

 

[Donald H]

Jeeeeez you preople, allow the Nazis some slack. It was wartime as opposed to *peace time in American where Americans are blowing each others brains out in the thousands!

* as close to peacetime as Ameica gets.

Guns were taken from Jews prior to war.

guns were taken from all Germans after WWI

We aren't the Germans, and better yet we defeated them with (wait for it), guns.

I know, I know, but they were military guns, and they were issued to the soldiers for a purpose... True, but you still had to have a citizenry capable of being trained, and having guns as civilians came in real handy as a starter when going in.

Are we talking all guns? No. We are talking about assault weapon bans & magazine limitations.

An AR-15 is not a military weapon, you dumb ass, and magzine bans are just stupid.......you can't justify magazine bans other than to say..."But we want to ban them..." That is all you have.

You guys want to limit magazines because you know that will make millions and millions of pistols illegal...since their standard magazine is 15-19 rounds.....a gun ban without voting to ban the guns....and lying to the American people about why you want the magazine ban.

Is that all you gunnuts can post. We all know what is being discussed but hey, you assfucks keep posting this crap.

And who knew they can't make a 10 round magazine.

Keep killing innocents & children so you can keep your toys.

What is your specific solution to mass murder?

Mass murder is his solution to us...so there's that...

His final solution?

I like his solution for ME to not have a gun. Why is that?

Cause you're less dead if he cuts off your head with an axe?

Because you can kill more, quicker, from a distance with an assault type weapon you fucking idiot.

26 were shot in gun free Chicago last weekend. Guess how many with rifles.

We are not looking at addressing that type of violence.

Chicago can try to regulate access to guns but all the bad people do is run to a red state and buy what they want.

Moron....the majority of crime guns come from local gun stores...purchased by straw buyers who can pass any background check...you doofus.

So, you are claiming the guns used in Chicago crime are purchased legally in Chicago?

The majority of crime guns are purchased legally through straw buyers for the gangs...or they are stolen....you idiot.....

Nope....if we had stricter gun control, there would be no gun violence.

Mexico has extremely restrictive laws regarding gun possession. There is only one gun store in the entire country, and it takes months of paperwork to have a chance at purchasing one legally.

Not even close to the gun violence in the land of the gun.

But the issue that needs consideration is attitudes of Americans that have been ratcheted up by continuous wars in other countries, that killing with guns has become accepted as normal.

However, on this board it's not possible and so it can serve as a gun forum that can provide ideas on how more people can get more guns. And especially on the possibilities of lowering the age at which little children can have their own guns and use them freely without supervision.

With guns in America, it's all good!

 

[Donald H]

2019...

Population Houston.....2.1 million...Total murders...275...


Population of Chicago...2.7 million.......463 shot and killed.

Impressive numbers! And the gun violence has escalated under the Trump regime.
The reason being that librul Americans are asking for it. Black lives matter to some Americans but white lives matter more.
In America it's all good.

America has a race problem and also a racism problem and there doesn't appear to be any way of fixing it, aside from more force and deadly force being used against black people.

 

[westwall]

If my kid was shot at a school, I would sue if it was a gun free zone. mass public shooters target gun free zones.

And you would be laughed out of any court, even an American court!
One angry and sick muthafkr for sure.
Go kill a songbird with your gun, or even just pull the wings off of your collection of house flies.

No, you sociopaths do that sort of behavior. Normal people such as myself don't. And you will notice, my comment was specifically LEGAL. I urge all people to use the Courts to settle their differences. Leftist psychopaths, such as yourself, always, ALWAYS resort to violence.

You are one sick person.

 

[westwall]

2019...

Population Houston.....2.1 million...Total murders...275...


Population of Chicago...2.7 million.......463 shot and killed.

Impressive numbers! And the gun violence has escalated under the Trump regime.
The reason being that librul Americans are asking for it. Black lives matter to some Americans but white lives matter more.
In America it's all good.

America has a race problem and also a racism problem and there doesn't appear to be any way of fixing it, aside from more force and deadly force being used against black people.

The only racists are scumbags, like you, who are trying to divide this country so it can be destroyed.

 

[Donald H]

Sorry, Mr Racist POS, but fighting for equality does not make one a racist.

2A'a life is all about anger and hating and that's put him on a crash course. Fuel that anger if it pleases you to do such things.
I do, in instances in which the world can be a better place with that sort of individual being dead.

My biggest concern is that he could be a dog owner or be a parent.

 

[westwall]

Sorry, Mr Racist POS, but fighting for equality does not make one a racist.

2A'a life is all about anger and hating and that's put him on a crash course. Fuel that anger if it pleases you to do such things.
I do, in instances in which the world can be a better place with that sort of individual being dead.

My biggest concern is that he could be a dog owner or be a parent.

Says the psycho who always resorts to violent language. 2A Guy, and pretty much all of the other gun Rights supporters here advocate peaceful battle through the Courts.

Lunatics, such as yourself, always, ALWAYS resort to violent rhetoric.

Insane people, like you, need to be sent to mental facilities.

 

[Donald H]

No, you sociopaths do that sort of behavior. Normal people such as myself don't. And you will notice, my comment was specifically LEGAL. I urge all people to use the Courts to settle their differences. Leftist psychopaths, such as yourself, always, ALWAYS resort to violence.

You are one sick person.

America owns the statistics my friend. Canada's statistics are available and that allows you to prove that we always, always resort to violence.

It's just a game now, in which some of us can draw you Americans out to find out just how fkd up you've become under the Trump regime.

 

[westwall]

No, you sociopaths do that sort of behavior. Normal people such as myself don't. And you will notice, my comment was specifically LEGAL. I urge all people to use the Courts to settle their differences. Leftist psychopaths, such as yourself, always, ALWAYS resort to violence.

You are one sick person.

America owns the statistics my friend. Canada's statistics are available and that allows you to prove that we always, always resort to violence.

It's just a game now, in which some of us can draw you Americans out to find out just how fkd up you've become under the Trump regime.

You, are not my friend. I don't associate with lunatics like you. The gun violence is mainly based in Democrat strongholds, and is mainly gang member on gang member. Cut out the ten most violent cities (all democrat run) and our violence rate drops below all of Europe and Canada.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

 

[Donald H]

Sorry, Mr Racist POS, but fighting for equality does not make one a racist.

2A'a life is all about anger and hating and that's put him on a crash course. Fuel that anger if it pleases you to do such things.
I do, in instances in which the world can be a better place with that sort of individual being dead.

My biggest concern is that he could be a dog owner or be a parent.

Says the psycho who always resorts to violent language. 2A Guy, and pretty much all of the other gun Rights supporters here advocate peaceful battle through the Courts.

Peaceful battle through the courts in America isn't possible. Americans in greater numbers are resorting go violence with their guns instead of appealing to any courts.

You can't win when your country's statistics on gun violence is there to blow your cover.

Do you want to talk about guns and gun violence with a Canadian? I'm not going to avoid the truth so be aware that I feel no reason to make it pleasant to hear.

 

[emilynghiem]

Guy shooting....No law enforcement...Good argument for the 2nd amendment.

Only morons think the answer to mass shootings is more guns. It is like saying the answer to arson is more matches.

Only morons figure guns to be dangerous, not the shooter...thats whats messed up w/you

BOTH
Like drugs, guns in the wrong hands are dangerous.
Liberal policies are inconsistent by legalizing drugs while banning guns.

If you are going to trust people with drugs, then we need to go after the addictions and abuse; and this approach of identifying mental and criminal disorders would solve BOTH problems with abuse of either drugs or guns falling into criminal hands.

The reason Liberal policy is inconsistent is trying to substitute external govt for the internal process of resolving the ROOT causes of mental, criminal and social ills that belong to the PEOPLE on local levels outside govt jurisdiction.

You cannot substitute for parenting and personal changes in attitude, relations or behavior by legislating mandates through govt.

But since the Liberal "secular" approach is to substitute Govt in place of spiritual or church authority, this approach seeks to compete politically AGAINST the effective practices of screening out and correcting abuses DIRECTLY by actually ENFORCING and applying existing laws and practices used effecticely by Christians and Constitutionalists. Instead of uniting on these solutions, the Liberal political bias is to oppose this way of invoking authority by trying to undercut this, and replace it with dependence on Partisan control of Govt, moving the source of authority away from people empowering themselves directly and instead shifting that power to centralized authority in Federal Govt where only the Corporate elite can access representation in decisions.

Again, the real solutions are accessible to all people DIRECTLY by exercising Christian and Constitutional practices and policies on a LOCAL level. That doesn't require going through govt, much less depend on federal govt. People have this power directly, but Liberals without this faith keep teaching the people are helpless and need to donate to Parties to get help through Govt.

* Christian spiritual healing is used to break the cycle of drug abuse, addiction and even criminal mental disorders and free people's minds to be able to comply with authorities and return to normal relations in society.
But Liberals want to demonize and censor Christians, then rely on govt programs when social problems escalate because of the lack of people getting help to solve their own problems with poverty and mental illness.

* Constitutional law enforcement and teaching all citizens to live by the laws, the way police and military veterans do by taking oaths to defend the laws and public as sacred duty, would screen out those who seek to violate laws or have criminal disabilities. But again, Liberals want to blame all police, defund them, and shift control to Federal Govt instead of shifting that power back to people to police our own communities by enforcing the same Constitutional standards directly ourselves. Which empowers us equally as govt, as military and police invoke authority of law by adopting and committing to uphold and defend these laws.

I wish we could discuss and resolve all policy issues over guns and drugs, abortion and mask mandates, in an environment where EVERYONE feels equally empowered to represent themselves in govt, either directly or through their party or media of choice.

If we come at each other as unequal, where some people depend on one party being in govt or others depend on another group to defend and represent their interests, we will only fight over which group will dominate.

We can never freely discuss the problems or solutions, out of fear that more power or influence will go to a competing group.

If we can agree to recognize each party or group as having sovereign jurisdiction over their members obky

 

[Donald H]

You, are not my friend. I don't associate with lunatics like you. The gun violence is mainly based in Democrat strongholds, and is mainly gang member on gang member. Cut out the ten most violent cities (all democrat run) and our violence rate drops below all of Europe and Canada.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

The Democratic strongholds in which the gun violence is mainly based, are within America. If that's of interest to you then I may have some answers for you.

And so, regardless of whether or not you want to hear it, I'll begin:

Democratic strongholds are big cities and big cities are locations in which gun violence in America is at it's worst. If the status quo is of no concern to you and you're happy with Americans killing each other in huge numbers in big cities, then we've found common ground.

I'm sure I could care less than you would. But that's hardly a good reason to stop talking about it!

Would you like to stop talking about it? Isn't it a question of either being concerned about lives of Americans or not?

 

[westwall]

Sorry, Mr Racist POS, but fighting for equality does not make one a racist.

2A'a life is all about anger and hating and that's put him on a crash course. Fuel that anger if it pleases you to do such things.
I do, in instances in which the world can be a better place with that sort of individual being dead.

My biggest concern is that he could be a dog owner or be a parent.

Says the psycho who always resorts to violent language. 2A Guy, and pretty much all of the other gun Rights supporters here advocate peaceful battle through the Courts.

Peaceful battle through the courts in America isn't possible. Americans in greater numbers are resorting go violence with their guns instead of appealing to any courts.

You can't win when your country's statistics on gun violence is there to blow your cover.

Do you want to talk about guns and gun violence with a Canadian? I'm not going to avoid the truth so be aware that I feel no reason to make it pleasant to hear.

The statistics are violent third world gangsters are killing violent third world gangsters. What YOU can't deny is that the progressive left is importing these violent gangsters into our country to prey on the innocent. What YOU can't deny is this is a political ploy, and the PEOPLE have figured it out. Which is why millions new gun owners exist. Thanks to YOUR violent attacks on the innocent, the innocent are now arming themselves in huge numbers.

YOU have lost.

You just haven't figured it out yet, because you're stupid.

 

[Donald H]

BOTH
Like drugs, guns in the wrong hands are dangerous.
Liberal policies are inconsistent by legalizing drugs while banning guns.

If you are going to trust people with drugs, then we need to go after the addictions and abuse; and this approach of identifying mental and criminal disorders would solve BOTH problems with abuse of either drugs or guns falling into criminal hands.

The reason Liberal policy is inconsistent is trying to substitute external govt for the internal process of resolving the ROOT causes of mental, criminal and social ills that belong to the PEOPLE on local levels outside govt jurisdiction.

You cannot substitute for parenting and personal changes in attitude, relations or behavior by legislating mandates through govt.

But since the Liberal "secular" approach is to substitute Govt in place of spiritual or church authority, this approach seeks to compete politically AGAINST the effective practices of screening out and correcting abuses DIRECTLY by actually ENFORCING and applying existing laws and practices used effecticely by Christians and Constitutionalists. Instead of uniting on these solutions, the Liberal political bias is to oppose this way of invoking authority by trying to undercut this, and replace it with dependence on Partisan control of Govt, moving the source of authority away from people empowering themselves directly and instead shifting that power to centralized authority in Federal Govt where only the Corporate elite can access representation in decisions.

Again, the real solutions are accessible to all people DIRECTLY by exercising Christian and Constitutional practices and policies on a LOCAL level. That doesn't require going through govt, much less depend on federal govt. People have this power directly, but Liberals without this faith keep teaching the people are helpless and need to donate to Parties to get help through Govt.

* Christian spiritual healing is used to break the cycle of drug abuse, addiction and even criminal mental disorders and free people's minds to be able to comply with authorities and return to normal relations in society.
But Liberals want to demonize and censor Christians, then rely on govt programs when social problems escalate because of the lack of people getting help to solve their own problems with poverty and mental illness.

* Constitutional law enforcement and teaching all citizens to live by the laws, the way police and military veterans do by taking oaths to defend the laws and public as sacred duty, would screen out those who seek to violate laws or have criminal disabilities. But again, Liberals want to blame all police, defund them, and shift control to Federal Govt instead of shifting that power back to people to police our own communities by enforcing the same Constitutional standards directly ourselves. Which empowers us equally as govt, as military and police invoke authority of law by adopting and committing to uphold and defend these laws.

I wish we could discuss and resolve all policy issues over guns and drugs, abortion and mask mandates, in an environment where EVERYONE feels equally empowered to represent themselves in govt, either directly or through their party or media of choice.

If we come at each other as unequal, where some people depend on one party being in govt or others depend on another group to defend and represent their interests, we will only fight over which group will dominate.

We can never freely discuss the problems or solutions, out of fear that more power or influence will go to a competing group.

If we can agree to recognize each party or group as having sovereign jurisdiction over their members obky

This is no place to start with the religious superstitious bullshit Emily. Baby jesus isn't going to intervene and take American gun nuts under control.

 

[westwall]

You, are not my friend. I don't associate with lunatics like you. The gun violence is mainly based in Democrat strongholds, and is mainly gang member on gang member. Cut out the ten most violent cities (all democrat run) and our violence rate drops below all of Europe and Canada.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

The Democratic strongholds in which the gun violence is mainly based, are within America. If that's of interest to you then I may have some answers for you.

And so, regardless of whether or not you want to hear it, I'll begin:

Democratic strongholds are big cities and big cities are locations in which gun violence in America is at it's worst. If the status quo is of no concern to you and you're happy with Americans killing each other in huge numbers in big cities, then we've found common ground.

I'm sure I could care less than you would. But that's hardly a good reason to stop talking about it!

Would you like to stop talking about it? Isn't it a question of either being concerned about lives of Americans or not?

They are Democrat run cities. They are forced to follow Democrat policies which increase violence, don't punish the evil doers, and allow those evil doers to continue their reign of terror. It's all political, and the PEOPLE are watching it happen in real time and have figured out the politicians are importing these monsters in to attack them. The PEOPLE have figured out YOUR lies.