Another Holocaust Myth Exposed At Auschwitz

[teapartysamurai]

My posting of the OP was for a historical debate about certain aspects of the so called Holocaust.

Of which the Muslims took no part in.

It involved European nations that were mainly Christian in nature.

Thus my being muslim should have no bearing on the discussion.

Yeah Holocaust denial has NOTHING to do with the muslims!

ANYONE REMEMBER ACHMADINAJAD'S HOLOCAUST DENIAL CONFERENCE????????

Ahmadinejad at Holocaust conference: Israel will 'soon be wiped out'
Ahmadinejad at Holocaust conference: Israel will 'soon be wiped out' - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

There's a reason you put me on ignore in the other thread, Sunni.

Because you are full of crap, and it's easy to expose you as being full of crap.

Keep running, and I'll keep kicking your ass!

Muslims had nothing to do with the Holocaust.

There may be a lot of Muslims denying the Holocaust but it wasn't Muslims who put the Jews in the gas chambers.

Wrong again!

The Muslims have been trying to exterminate the Jews for a long time.

The Mufti and the Führer

By Mitchell Bard

In 1941, Haj Amin al-Husseini fled to Germany and met with Adolf Hitler, Heinrich Himmler, Joachim Von Ribbentrop and other Nazi leaders. He wanted to persuade them to extend the Nazis’ anti-Jewish program to the Arab world.

The Mufti sent Hitler 15 drafts of declarations he wanted Germany and Italy to make concerning the Middle East. One called on the two countries to declare the illegality of the Jewish home in Palestine. Furthermore, “they accord to Palestine and to other Arab countries the right to solve the problem of the Jewish elements in Palestine and other Arab countries, in accordance with the interest of the Arabs and, by the same method, that the question is now being settled in the Axis countries.”1

In November 1941, the Mufti met with Hitler, who told him the Jews were his foremost enemy. The Nazi dictator rebuffed the Mufti's requests for a declaration in support of the Arabs, however, telling him the time was not right. The Mufti offered Hitler his “thanks for the sympathy which he had always shown for the Arab and especially Palestinian cause, and to which he had given clear expression in his public speeches....The Arabs were Germany's natural friends because they had the same enemies as had Germany, namely....the Jews....” Hitler replied:

Germany stood for uncompromising war against the Jews. That naturally included active opposition to the Jewish national home in Palestine....Germany would furnish positive and practical aid to the Arabs involved in the same struggle....Germany's objective [is]...solely the destruction of the Jewish element residing in the Arab sphere....In that hour the Mufti would be the most authoritative spokesman for the Arab world. The Mufti thanked Hitler profusely.2
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In 1945, Yugoslavia sought to indict the Mufti as a war criminal for his role in recruiting 20,000 Muslim volunteers for the SS, who participated in the killing of Jews in Croatia and Hungary. He escaped from French detention in 1946, however, and continued his fight against the Jews from Cairo and later Beirut. He died in 1974.

The Husseini family continued to play a role in Palestinian affairs, with Faisal Husseini, whose father was the Mufti's nephew, regarded until his death in 2001 as one of their leading spokesmen in the territories.

1“Grand Mufti Plotted To Do Away With All Jews In Mideast,” Response, (Fall 1991), pp. 2-3.

2Record of the Conversation Between the Fuhrer and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem on November 28, 1941, in the Presence of Reich Foreign Minister and Minister Grobba in Berlin, Documents on German Foreign Policy, 1918-1945, Series D, Vol. XIII, London, 1964, p. 881ff in Walter Lacquer and Barry Rubin, The Israel-Arab Reader, (NY: Facts on File, 1984), pp. 79-84.

The Mufti and the Fuhrer

 

[Toro]

Yeah Holocaust denial has NOTHING to do with the muslims!

ANYONE REMEMBER ACHMADINAJAD'S HOLOCAUST DENIAL CONFERENCE????????

Ahmadinejad at Holocaust conference: Israel will 'soon be wiped out'
Ahmadinejad at Holocaust conference: Israel will 'soon be wiped out' - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

There's a reason you put me on ignore in the other thread, Sunni.

Because you are full of crap, and it's easy to expose you as being full of crap.

Keep running, and I'll keep kicking your ass!

Muslims had nothing to do with the Holocaust.

There may be a lot of Muslims denying the Holocaust but it wasn't Muslims who put the Jews in the gas chambers.

Wrong again!

The Muslims have been trying to exterminate the Jews for a long time.

The Mufti and the Führer

By Mitchell Bard

In 1941, Haj Amin al-Husseini fled to Germany and met with Adolf Hitler, Heinrich Himmler, Joachim Von Ribbentrop and other Nazi leaders. He wanted to persuade them to extend the Nazis’ anti-Jewish program to the Arab world.

The Mufti sent Hitler 15 drafts of declarations he wanted Germany and Italy to make concerning the Middle East. One called on the two countries to declare the illegality of the Jewish home in Palestine. Furthermore, “they accord to Palestine and to other Arab countries the right to solve the problem of the Jewish elements in Palestine and other Arab countries, in accordance with the interest of the Arabs and, by the same method, that the question is now being settled in the Axis countries.”1

In November 1941, the Mufti met with Hitler, who told him the Jews were his foremost enemy. The Nazi dictator rebuffed the Mufti's requests for a declaration in support of the Arabs, however, telling him the time was not right. The Mufti offered Hitler his “thanks for the sympathy which he had always shown for the Arab and especially Palestinian cause, and to which he had given clear expression in his public speeches....The Arabs were Germany's natural friends because they had the same enemies as had Germany, namely....the Jews....” Hitler replied:

Germany stood for uncompromising war against the Jews. That naturally included active opposition to the Jewish national home in Palestine....Germany would furnish positive and practical aid to the Arabs involved in the same struggle....Germany's objective [is]...solely the destruction of the Jewish element residing in the Arab sphere....In that hour the Mufti would be the most authoritative spokesman for the Arab world. The Mufti thanked Hitler profusely.2
​

In 1945, Yugoslavia sought to indict the Mufti as a war criminal for his role in recruiting 20,000 Muslim volunteers for the SS, who participated in the killing of Jews in Croatia and Hungary. He escaped from French detention in 1946, however, and continued his fight against the Jews from Cairo and later Beirut. He died in 1974.

The Husseini family continued to play a role in Palestinian affairs, with Faisal Husseini, whose father was the Mufti's nephew, regarded until his death in 2001 as one of their leading spokesmen in the territories.

1“Grand Mufti Plotted To Do Away With All Jews In Mideast,” Response, (Fall 1991), pp. 2-3.

2Record of the Conversation Between the Fuhrer and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem on November 28, 1941, in the Presence of Reich Foreign Minister and Minister Grobba in Berlin, Documents on German Foreign Policy, 1918-1945, Series D, Vol. XIII, London, 1964, p. 881ff in Walter Lacquer and Barry Rubin, [ame="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0140245626/theamericanisraeA/"]The Israel-Arab Reader[/ame], (NY: Facts on File, 1984), pp. 79-84.


The Mufti and the Fuhrer

The Holocaust refers to the second world war, whereby the Nazis exterminated 6 million Jews. It does not refer to any other time.

The Muslims in which you refer to were involved in an internecine civil war in Yugoslavia. Christian Croats were also allied with the Nazis against the Serbs, and war crimes charges were also brought up against them.

The Holocaust was done by Europeans against Jews, many of whom were Christians. Christians are far, far more culpable in the Holocaust than an isolated case or two with Muslims.

 

[teapartysamurai]

Muslims had nothing to do with the Holocaust.

There may be a lot of Muslims denying the Holocaust but it wasn't Muslims who put the Jews in the gas chambers.

Wrong again!

The Muslims have been trying to exterminate the Jews for a long time.

The Mufti and the Führer

By Mitchell Bard

In 1941, Haj Amin al-Husseini fled to Germany and met with Adolf Hitler, Heinrich Himmler, Joachim Von Ribbentrop and other Nazi leaders. He wanted to persuade them to extend the Nazis’ anti-Jewish program to the Arab world.

The Mufti sent Hitler 15 drafts of declarations he wanted Germany and Italy to make concerning the Middle East. One called on the two countries to declare the illegality of the Jewish home in Palestine. Furthermore, “they accord to Palestine and to other Arab countries the right to solve the problem of the Jewish elements in Palestine and other Arab countries, in accordance with the interest of the Arabs and, by the same method, that the question is now being settled in the Axis countries.”1

In November 1941, the Mufti met with Hitler, who told him the Jews were his foremost enemy. The Nazi dictator rebuffed the Mufti's requests for a declaration in support of the Arabs, however, telling him the time was not right. The Mufti offered Hitler his “thanks for the sympathy which he had always shown for the Arab and especially Palestinian cause, and to which he had given clear expression in his public speeches....The Arabs were Germany's natural friends because they had the same enemies as had Germany, namely....the Jews....” Hitler replied:

Germany stood for uncompromising war against the Jews. That naturally included active opposition to the Jewish national home in Palestine....Germany would furnish positive and practical aid to the Arabs involved in the same struggle....Germany's objective [is]...solely the destruction of the Jewish element residing in the Arab sphere....In that hour the Mufti would be the most authoritative spokesman for the Arab world. The Mufti thanked Hitler profusely.2
​

In 1945, Yugoslavia sought to indict the Mufti as a war criminal for his role in recruiting 20,000 Muslim volunteers for the SS, who participated in the killing of Jews in Croatia and Hungary. He escaped from French detention in 1946, however, and continued his fight against the Jews from Cairo and later Beirut. He died in 1974.

The Husseini family continued to play a role in Palestinian affairs, with Faisal Husseini, whose father was the Mufti's nephew, regarded until his death in 2001 as one of their leading spokesmen in the territories.

1“Grand Mufti Plotted To Do Away With All Jews In Mideast,” Response, (Fall 1991), pp. 2-3.

2Record of the Conversation Between the Fuhrer and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem on November 28, 1941, in the Presence of Reich Foreign Minister and Minister Grobba in Berlin, Documents on German Foreign Policy, 1918-1945, Series D, Vol. XIII, London, 1964, p. 881ff in Walter Lacquer and Barry Rubin, [ame="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0140245626/theamericanisraeA/"]The Israel-Arab Reader[/ame], (NY: Facts on File, 1984), pp. 79-84.


The Mufti and the Fuhrer

The Holocaust refers to the second world war, whereby the Nazis exterminated 6 million Jews. It does not refer to any other time.

The Muslims in which you refer to were involved in an internecine civil war in Yugoslavia. Christian Croats were also allied with the Nazis against the Serbs, and war crimes charges were also brought up against them.

The Holocaust was done by Europeans against Jews, many of whom were Christians. Christians are far, far more culpable in the Holocaust than an isolated case or two with Muslims.

In other words it doesn't count because you say so.

You want to also explain Achmadinajad's big Conference claiming there was no Holocaust, just like Sunniman is claiming?

Gee, what a coincidence.

 

[Toro]

In other words it doesn't count because you say so.

You want to also explain Achmadinajad's big Conference claiming there was no Holocaust, just like Sunniman is claiming?

Gee, what a coincidence.

No, it doesn't count because you fail to understand historical context.

FFS, you're almost as bad as he is.

And the nutter President of Iran - the same guy who said that the West is controlling the weather to inflict drought on Iran - denying the Holocaust does not change the historical fact that it was Europeans, many of whom were Christians, who put the Jews in the gas chambers. Trying to paint Muslims as culpable for the Holocaust is bizarre.

 

[daveman]

Daveman bans people in another forum. No wonder he was advocating the same on another thread.

You really are on the wrong board, Dave....

Why is it that most users here with some form of "doctor" in their usernames are among the most stupid?

Different boards have different rules. The board I modded had a zero-tolerance policy for racists. Billy is STILL butthurt about it, even though it's been around 8 years. And it was the board admin that banned him, not me. I just got him to admit, quote, "I hate Jews".

But I sure he thanks you for sharing his butthurt.

 

[daveman]

It's refreshing to hear you admit that there's a such thing as rational dislike of Jews.

No, there isn't. You can rationally dislike members of a group. But to dislike the entire group is irrational.

Depends on the group. It's perfectly rational to dislike all members of Al Qaeda, is it not?

Yes, it is. But association with Al Qaeda is voluntary -- being a Jew isn't.

 

[daveman]

I have backed enough shit up I could care less if you think they are empty threats or not. I am simply stating fact not being an internet warrior. Facts are facts son. When the white man is beat down so much we will retaliate in a fashion never before seen.Sucks to be on the wrong side of that

Yeah? How'd that work out for the Nazis?

You're a coward. Internet tough guys always are. And that's a fact.

*yawn* Same old shit different day heard all this shit before so ya got something new to say?

Oh, I have no doubt you've heard it before -- you've been a coward all your life, haven't you?

 

[Sunni Man]

Examining certain aspects of the so-called Holocaust is not racist or anti-semitic.

Just as historians debate and discuss the Roman empire or the Civil War.

All aspects of the alleged events of the Holocaust should also be scrutinized by historians

 

[teapartysamurai]

In other words it doesn't count because you say so.

You want to also explain Achmadinajad's big Conference claiming there was no Holocaust, just like Sunniman is claiming?

Gee, what a coincidence.

No, it doesn't count because you fail to understand historical context.

FFS, you're almost as bad as he is.

And the nutter President of Iran - the same guy who said that the West is controlling the weather to inflict drought on Iran - denying the Holocaust does not change the historical fact that it was Europeans, many of whom were Christians, who put the Jews in the gas chambers. Trying to paint Muslims as culpable for the Holocaust is bizarre.

Ah! Now we have the agenda.

The old "it was Christians that did the Holocaust" meme.

Despite all the evidence, the Nazis rejected Christianity, because they saw it as an off-shoot of Judaoism.

That is what is behind your objection.

 

[teapartysamurai]

Examining certain aspects of the so-called Holocaust is not racist or anti-semitic.

Just as historians debate and discuss the Roman empire or the Civil War.

All aspects of the alleged events of the Holocaust should also be scrutinized by historians

Certain aspects my ass. You deny it happened!

Still hiding from a woman, burkah boy!

 

[Sunni Man]

irrational hatred of Jews.

It's refreshing to hear you admit that there's a such thing as rational dislike of Jews.

Excellent point.

 

[Toro]

In other words it doesn't count because you say so.

You want to also explain Achmadinajad's big Conference claiming there was no Holocaust, just like Sunniman is claiming?

Gee, what a coincidence.

No, it doesn't count because you fail to understand historical context.

FFS, you're almost as bad as he is.

And the nutter President of Iran - the same guy who said that the West is controlling the weather to inflict drought on Iran - denying the Holocaust does not change the historical fact that it was Europeans, many of whom were Christians, who put the Jews in the gas chambers. Trying to paint Muslims as culpable for the Holocaust is bizarre.

Ah! Now we have the agenda.

The old "it was Christians that did the Holocaust" meme.

Despite all the evidence, the Nazis rejected Christianity, because they saw it as an off-shoot of Judaoism.

That is what is behind your objection.

It's like talking to a wall.

 

[Sunni Man]

Germany was a predominantly Protestant nation.

And Italy was almost totally Catholic.

Both America, France, and Britain were heavily Christian.

In essence World War II was between Christian belligerents.

 

[High_Gravity]

I really don't see how this is debateable to be honest, I mean its been documented and there are still people who lived through it walking amongst us right now. Whats next, slavery never happened? the US never invaded Iraq?

 

[Sunni Man]

Yes there were brutal prison camps throughout Europe.

That cannot be denied.

But the exact numbers of the dead.

And cause of death.

Are still open for intense debate and examination.

 

[Caroljo]

It wasn't just Jews that were murdered...many that were killed or held in concentration camps were from other countries around Germany. The majority were Jews, but not all. Anyone that Hitler thought weren't worth living were herded into camps...

 

[Sunni Man]

More non-Jews died in the camps then Jews.

Later the Zionist inflated the number to 6 million jews.

Then coined the name Holocaust and took ownership of the event.

 

[SFC Ollie]

The one thing that I admire about Hitler was his patriotism for his country.

(and no I am not a nazi)

Sure he got carried away in a few areas.

And made a few mistakes.

No politician is perfect.

But over all he put his people and nation first and above foreign interests.

I wish we had politicians here in our country that would champion America first.

Really? He put Austria first? I thought he enslaved Austria first.....

Once again that zog school education is shining! Austria held a vote and over 90% vote to rejoin Germany.

Wrong answer little coward racist (who is afraid to see his negative reputation)

The so called election you are referring to was a month after Germany had taken control of Austria. Do try to study a little harder....

 

[teapartysamurai]

More non-Jews died in the camps then Jews.

Later the Zionist inflated the number to 6 million jews.

Then coined the name Holocaust and took ownership of the event.

Iran cartoons

 

[teapartysamurai]