Another school shooting....time to arm the teachers?

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SWAT team members' duties include: performing hostage rescues and counter-terrorism operations; serving high risk arrest and search warrants; subduing barricaded suspects; and engaging heavily-armed criminals. SWAT teams are often equipped with specialized firearms including submachine guns, assault rifles, breaching shotguns, riot control agents, stun grenades, and sniper rifles. They have specialized equipment including heavy body armor, ballistic shields, entry tools, armored vehicles, advanced night vision optics, and motion detectors for covertly determining the positions of hostages or hostage takers inside enclosed structures.



Shit yea......a First Grade teacher can do that. Just hand them a gun and say....Go get him
So we're back to letting everyone get slaughtered, because nobody could ever possibly shoot back without SWAT training.

We should probably teach kids to all line up against the wall in the event of a shooting too. Because only someone with SWAT training could run away from a gunman.

A lone police officer without body armor would be advised to wait for backup. Yet, in the mythical world of gun nuts, they expect teachers to take on gunmen single handedly.

Hey, John McClane did it in Die Hard
 
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I am asking a teacher to do no more than a trained SWAT team would do. Individual SWAT members do not run in armed with a handgun, without armor and without backup. Yet idiot gun nut fantasies expect a freaking first grade teacher to do it
we should mandate that all children wear body armor as part of their school uniform now. i mean, its a perfectly good solution.....

Progressive ghouls are always up for punishing children...
actually this would be protecting children. only in your eyes would that be a punishment.
 
So teachers are trustworthy enough to be left with children, but not trustworthy enough to handle a firearm. But we trust an eighteen-year-old soldier with only weeks of training with an "assault weapon," but a person has to have a four-year degree and certification to be trusted with kids.

Got it.
the key word to your rant is "training".

Well, I'm so glad that you were able to point out to us that we were recklessly proposing to arm teachers with no training at all.

Oh, wait, we weren't.
 
SWAT - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

SWAT team members' duties include: performing hostage rescues and counter-terrorism operations; serving high risk arrest and search warrants; subduing barricaded suspects; and engaging heavily-armed criminals. SWAT teams are often equipped with specialized firearms including submachine guns, assault rifles, breaching shotguns, riot control agents, stun grenades, and sniper rifles. They have specialized equipment including heavy body armor, ballistic shields, entry tools, armored vehicles, advanced night vision optics, and motion detectors for covertly determining the positions of hostages or hostage takers inside enclosed structures.



Shit yea......a First Grade teacher can do that. Just hand them a gun and say....Go get him
So we're back to letting everyone get slaughtered, because nobody could ever possibly shoot back without SWAT training.

We should probably teach kids to all line up against the wall in the event of a shooting too. Because only someone with SWAT training could run away from a gunman.

A lone police officer without body armor would be advised to wait for backup. Yet, in the mythical world of gun nuts, they expect teachers to take on gunmen single handedly.

Hey, John McCain did it in Die Hard
yippie ki-yay mutherfucker!
 
So teachers are trustworthy enough to be left with children, but not trustworthy enough to handle a firearm. But we trust an eighteen-year-old soldier with only weeks of training with an "assault weapon," but a person has to have a four-year degree and certification to be trusted with kids.

Got it.
the key word to your rant is "training".

Well, I'm so glad that you were able to point out to us that we were recklessly proposing to arm teachers with no training at all.

Oh, wait, we weren't.
yes, we want young teacher to have firearms training as part of their credential program. that will solve all the problems. until a student gets a hold of that gun and uses against the teacher. then what will your excuse be? that they need to have it on their hip at all times?
 
So teachers are trustworthy enough to be left with children, but not trustworthy enough to handle a firearm. But we trust an eighteen-year-old soldier with only weeks of training with an "assault weapon," but a person has to have a four-year degree and certification to be trusted with kids.

Got it.

It is easy enough to train an adult in firearm use, safety and target practice

Taking that teacher and pointing them at a crazed, armed to the teeth gunman and saying.....go get him ...is a different story

If an armed guard or policeman came upon that scene and lacked proper weapons and body armor, they would have been advised to wait for backup

Yet you want to send a teacher into the fray
Okay, we should just let them be shot with no recourse whatsoever. Cool. :thup:

I don't want to "send" teachers into anything. They're already IN the fray, apparently. The crazy gunmen are TAKING the fray TO the teachers. I just want to let them face the fray coming at them with some self-protection.
 
The norwegian killed 77 people with his guns.

How many cars are necessary for a homicidal maniac to kill ten people?

Your argument is not relevant, Uncensored.

Jakematters; you're so very, very stupid.

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I remember a story in the late 70s, early 80s, about a woman who decided to drive her car into a crowd of Thanksgiving tourists in Las Vegas to see how many she could "get". Only reason she was stopped with her first pass through the crowd, instead of continuing to drive along and hit more people - and she "got" 10 or so on just that first pass - was because there was a police car sitting on the side of the road nearby.
 
You are saying that, since a teacher is not a SWAT officer, s/he won't be of any use in any situation whatsoever and should simply settle for being gunned down like a rabid dog?

I am asking a teacher to do no more than a trained SWAT team would do. Individual SWAT members do not run in armed with a handgun, without armor and without backup. Yet idiot gun nut fantasies expect a freaking first grade teacher to do it
It doesn't take a SWAT team member to return fire.

Who said anything about teachers "running in" anywhere? They're already IN there, if by "there" we mean "the classroom that the crazed gunman is approaching". Armed homeowners manage to deal with burglars entering their homes and coming toward them with guns all the time. Why do we think teachers are so incompetent that they can't do the same thing?
 
I remember a story in the late 70s, early 80s, about a woman who decided to drive her car into a crowd of Thanksgiving tourists in Las Vegas to see how many she could "get". Only reason she was stopped with her first pass through the crowd, instead of continuing to drive along and hit more people - and she "got" 10 or so on just that first pass - was because there was a police car sitting on the side of the road nearby.

Mass killings with cars happen all the time. Morons like Jakematters ignore them because they don't promote the leftist agenda of revoking civil rights.
 
the key word to your rant is "training".

Well, I'm so glad that you were able to point out to us that we were recklessly proposing to arm teachers with no training at all.

Oh, wait, we weren't.
yes, we want young teacher to have firearms training as part of their credential program. that will solve all the problems. until a student gets a hold of that gun and uses against the teacher. then what will your excuse be? that they need to have it on their hip at all times?

Actually, they are proposing open carry for teachers in the classroom
 
If children were being killed regularly, I'm sure he would find a way to justify it.
 
It is easy enough to train an adult in firearm use, safety and target practice

Taking that teacher and pointing them at a crazed, armed to the teeth gunman and saying.....go get him ...is a different story

If an armed guard or policeman came upon that scene and lacked proper weapons and body armor, they would have been advised to wait for backup

Yet you want to send a teacher into the fray
Okay, we should just let them be shot with no recourse whatsoever. Cool. :thup:

I don't want to "send" teachers into anything. They're already IN the fray, apparently. The crazy gunmen are TAKING the fray TO the teachers. I just want to let them face the fray coming at them with some self-protection.

Shoot at anything that moves...let god sort them out
 
Well, I'm so glad that you were able to point out to us that we were recklessly proposing to arm teachers with no training at all.

Oh, wait, we weren't.
yes, we want young teacher to have firearms training as part of their credential program. that will solve all the problems. until a student gets a hold of that gun and uses against the teacher. then what will your excuse be? that they need to have it on their hip at all times?

Actually, they are proposing open carry for teachers in the classroom
yup thats a brilliant idea. let put more guns near children.
 
yes, we want young teacher to have firearms training as part of their credential program. that will solve all the problems. until a student gets a hold of that gun and uses against the teacher. then what will your excuse be? that they need to have it on their hip at all times?

Actually, they are proposing open carry for teachers in the classroom
yup thats a brilliant idea. let put more guns near children.

Only way to keep them safe
 
SWAT - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

SWAT team members' duties include: performing hostage rescues and counter-terrorism operations; serving high risk arrest and search warrants; subduing barricaded suspects; and engaging heavily-armed criminals. SWAT teams are often equipped with specialized firearms including submachine guns, assault rifles, breaching shotguns, riot control agents, stun grenades, and sniper rifles. They have specialized equipment including heavy body armor, ballistic shields, entry tools, armored vehicles, advanced night vision optics, and motion detectors for covertly determining the positions of hostages or hostage takers inside enclosed structures.



Shit yea......a First Grade teacher can do that. Just hand them a gun and say....Go get him
So we're back to letting everyone get slaughtered, because nobody could ever possibly shoot back without SWAT training.

We should probably teach kids to all line up against the wall in the event of a shooting too. Because only someone with SWAT training could run away from a gunman.

A lone police officer without body armor would be advised to wait for backup. Yet, in the mythical world of gun nuts, they expect teachers to take on gunmen single handedly.

Hey, John McClain did it in Die Hard
Yes, so since nobody could ever return fire, we might as well just teach the kids to sit still and wait their turn to be shot.
 
I remember a story in the late 70s, early 80s, about a woman who decided to drive her car into a crowd of Thanksgiving tourists in Las Vegas to see how many she could "get". Only reason she was stopped with her first pass through the crowd, instead of continuing to drive along and hit more people - and she "got" 10 or so on just that first pass - was because there was a police car sitting on the side of the road nearby.

Mass killings with cars happen all the time. Morons like Jakematters ignore them because they don't promote the leftist agenda of revoking civil rights.

Only a moronic fuckstain with the IQ of an ameoba would equate gun rights to civil rights..

Oh, wait a minute.....that's right...

Carry on
 

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