Another school shooting....time to arm the teachers?

[JakeStarkey]

The legislation will not pass, not a chance.

However, I do think BHO will use the promise of withdrawal of the proposal in return for GOP compromise with the tax and cut plan.

Obama sells more guns in this country than anyone else. He could end this if he would just embrace the second amendment of the constitution that he promised to uphold when he was sworn in on inauguration day.

This weekend was insane. Everyone in California was in Turners looking to buy firearms.

Scumbags like Diane Feinstein who use tragedy to promote their agenda are much of the reason.

Feinstein will introduce assault weapons ban in Senate

 

[Crackerjack]

So teachers are trustworthy enough to be left with children, but not trustworthy enough to handle a firearm. But we trust an eighteen-year-old soldier with only weeks of training with an "assault weapon," but a person has to have a four-year degree and certification to be trusted with kids.

Got it.

the key word to you rant is "training".

"Rant"?

So teachers can't be trained?

 

[rightwinger]

So teachers are trustworthy enough to be left with children, but not trustworthy enough to handle a firearm. But we trust an eighteen-year-old soldier with only weeks of training with an "assault weapon," but a person has to have a four-year degree and certification to be trusted with kids.

Got it.

It is easy enough to train an adult in firearm use, safety and target practice

Taking that teacher and pointing them at a crazed, armed to the teeth gunman and saying.....go get him ...is a different story

If an armed guard or policeman came upon that scene and lacked proper weapons and body armor, they would have been advised to wait for backup

Yet you want to send a teacher into the fray

 

[Crackerjack]

So teachers are trustworthy enough to be left with children, but not trustworthy enough to handle a firearm. But we trust an eighteen-year-old soldier with only weeks of training with an "assault weapon," but a person has to have a four-year degree and certification to be trusted with kids.

Got it.

It is easy enough to train an adult in firearm use, safety and target practice

Taking that teacher and pointing them at a crazed, armed to the teeth gunman and saying.....go get him ...is a different story

If an armed guard or policeman came upon that scene and lacked proper weapons and body armor, they would have been advised to wait for backup

Yet you want to send a teacher into the fray

Okay, we should just let them be shot with no recourse whatsoever. Cool.

 

[rightwinger]

So teachers are trustworthy enough to be left with children, but not trustworthy enough to handle a firearm. But we trust an eighteen-year-old soldier with only weeks of training with an "assault weapon," but a person has to have a four-year degree and certification to be trusted with kids.

Got it.

It is easy enough to train an adult in firearm use, safety and target practice

Taking that teacher and pointing them at a crazed, armed to the teeth gunman and saying.....go get him ...is a different story

If an armed guard or policeman came upon that scene and lacked proper weapons and body armor, they would have been advised to wait for backup

Yet you want to send a teacher into the fray

Okay, we should just let them be shot with no recourse whatsoever. Cool.

You are asking a teacher to do single handedly what a SWAT team takes years of training to accomplish

 

[Crackerjack]

It is easy enough to train an adult in firearm use, safety and target practice

Taking that teacher and pointing them at a crazed, armed to the teeth gunman and saying.....go get him ...is a different story

If an armed guard or policeman came upon that scene and lacked proper weapons and body armor, they would have been advised to wait for backup

Yet you want to send a teacher into the fray

Okay, we should just let them be shot with no recourse whatsoever. Cool.

You are asking a teacher to do single handedly what a SWAT team takes years of training to accomplish

You are saying that, since a teacher is not a SWAT officer, s/he won't be of any use in any situation whatsoever and should simply settle for being gunned down like a rabid dog?

 

[Uncensored2008]

The norwegian killed 77 people with his guns.

How many cars are necessary for a homicidal maniac to kill ten people?

Your argument is not relevant, Uncensored.

Jakematters; you're so very, very stupid.

Elderly Driver Mows Down Group of Bicyclists in Shandong – chinaSMACK
Centenarian driver mows down schoolkids - Video on TODAY.com
Driver, 87, Mows Down Memorial Ride Motorcyclists, Killing 2
Hit-and-run driver ‘mows down’ 12 in 30 minutes

 

[rightwinger]

Okay, we should just let them be shot with no recourse whatsoever. Cool.

You are asking a teacher to do single handedly what a SWAT team takes years of training to accomplish

You are saying that, since a teacher is not a SWAT officer, s/he won't be of any use in any situation whatsoever and should simply settle for being gunned down like a rabid dog?

I am asking a teacher to do no more than a trained SWAT team would do. Individual SWAT members do not run in armed with a handgun, without armor and without backup. Yet idiot gun nut fantasies expect a freaking first grade teacher to do it

 

[JakeStarkey]

Uncensored refuses to fact facts and context.

Let's see you get an auto in a school, down the hallways, into the classrooms.

Grow up and face reality.

The tool argument is not relevant.

 

[Crackerjack]

You are asking a teacher to do single handedly what a SWAT team takes years of training to accomplish

You are saying that, since a teacher is not a SWAT officer, s/he won't be of any use in any situation whatsoever and should simply settle for being gunned down like a rabid dog?

I am asking a teacher to do no more than a trained SWAT team would do. Individual SWAT members do not run in armed with a handgun, without armor and without backup. Yet idiot gun nut fantasies expect a freaking first grade teacher to do it

It doesn't take a SWAT team member to return fire.

 

[LeftCoastVoter]

So teachers are trustworthy enough to be left with children, but not trustworthy enough to handle a firearm. But we trust an eighteen-year-old soldier with only weeks of training with an "assault weapon," but a person has to have a four-year degree and certification to be trusted with kids.

Got it.

the key word to you rant is "training".

"Rant"?

So teachers can't be trained?

your statement did not address firearms training for teachers. but yes they could be trained, however that decision would need to be made the parents of the children and school boards.

 

[Crackerjack]

the key word to you rant is "training".

"Rant"?

So teachers can't be trained?

your statement did not address firearms training for teachers. but yes they could be trained, however that decision would need to be made the parents of the children and school boards.

Couple that with vouchers for parents who aren't comfortable with this to send their kids elsewhere and I see no issues.

 

[LeftCoastVoter]

You are asking a teacher to do single handedly what a SWAT team takes years of training to accomplish

You are saying that, since a teacher is not a SWAT officer, s/he won't be of any use in any situation whatsoever and should simply settle for being gunned down like a rabid dog?

I am asking a teacher to do no more than a trained SWAT team would do. Individual SWAT members do not run in armed with a handgun, without armor and without backup. Yet idiot gun nut fantasies expect a freaking first grade teacher to do it

we should mandate that all children wear body armor as part of their school uniform now. i mean, its a perfectly good solution.....

 

[LeftCoastVoter]

"Rant"?

So teachers can't be trained?

your statement did not address firearms training for teachers. but yes they could be trained, however that decision would need to be made the parents of the children and school boards.

Couple that with vouchers for parents who aren't comfortable with this to send their kids elsewhere and I see no issues.

if they are that afraid, they can homeschool

 

[rightwinger]

SWAT - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

SWAT team members' duties include: performing hostage rescues and counter-terrorism operations; serving high risk arrest and search warrants; subduing barricaded suspects; and engaging heavily-armed criminals. SWAT teams are often equipped with specialized firearms including submachine guns, assault rifles, breaching shotguns, riot control agents, stun grenades, and sniper rifles. They have specialized equipment including heavy body armor, ballistic shields, entry tools, armored vehicles, advanced night vision optics, and motion detectors for covertly determining the positions of hostages or hostage takers inside enclosed structures.



Shit yea......a First Grade teacher can do that. Just hand them a gun and say....Go get him

 

[Uncensored2008]

Uncensored refuses to fact facts and context.

Let's see you get an auto in a school, down the hallways, into the classrooms.

Grow up and face reality.

The tool argument is not relevant.

You're a stupid little cocksucker, Jakematters.

You got spanked again for your lies.

 

[Crackerjack]

SWAT - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

SWAT team members' duties include: performing hostage rescues and counter-terrorism operations; serving high risk arrest and search warrants; subduing barricaded suspects; and engaging heavily-armed criminals. SWAT teams are often equipped with specialized firearms including submachine guns, assault rifles, breaching shotguns, riot control agents, stun grenades, and sniper rifles. They have specialized equipment including heavy body armor, ballistic shields, entry tools, armored vehicles, advanced night vision optics, and motion detectors for covertly determining the positions of hostages or hostage takers inside enclosed structures.



Shit yea......a First Grade teacher can do that. Just hand them a gun and say....Go get him

So we're back to letting everyone get slaughtered, because nobody could ever possibly shoot back without SWAT training.

We should probably teach kids to all line up against the wall in the event of a shooting too. Because only someone with SWAT training could run away from a gunman.

 

[koshergrl]

You are saying that, since a teacher is not a SWAT officer, s/he won't be of any use in any situation whatsoever and should simply settle for being gunned down like a rabid dog?

I am asking a teacher to do no more than a trained SWAT team would do. Individual SWAT members do not run in armed with a handgun, without armor and without backup. Yet idiot gun nut fantasies expect a freaking first grade teacher to do it

we should mandate that all children wear body armor as part of their school uniform now. i mean, its a perfectly good solution.....

Progressive ghouls are always up for punishing children...

 

[Uncensored2008]

I am asking a teacher to do no more than a trained SWAT team would do. Individual SWAT members do not run in armed with a handgun, without armor and without backup. Yet idiot gun nut fantasies expect a freaking first grade teacher to do it

This moron attacked 5 year olds, return fire would have the coward pissing himself.

Look, all you're doing is shamelessly leveraging a tragedy in hopes of promoting your war against civil liberties.

You should be ashamed of yourself, but that would take integrity.

 

[LeftCoastVoter]

I am asking a teacher to do no more than a trained SWAT team would do. Individual SWAT members do not run in armed with a handgun, without armor and without backup. Yet idiot gun nut fantasies expect a freaking first grade teacher to do it

This moron attacked 5 year olds, return fire would have the coward pissing himself.

Look, all you're doing is shamelessly leveraging a tragedy in hopes of promoting your war against civil liberties.

You should be ashamed of yourself, but that would take integrity.

and the right is leveraging every tragedy as an excuse to get more guns into the hands of the public. so what makes your argument so much more convincing?