Another win for Religious Liberty

[danielpalos]

Yes, and feeding the hungry encourages them to stay on welfare!

Not really. Giving them free food from government does, yes. But actual real charity does not generally.

Feeding the hungry, doesn't mean letting them live off you, and most Christian charities operate on that idea.

For example, when I worked at the homeless shelter down town, the vast majority of people that stayed there, generally were out in a month.

In fact, one of the duties that I was part of, was creating move-in boxes. This was a large box of common items for moving into a apartment. We have family, and individual boxes. They would contain a set of plates, cups, silverware, bathroom items, soap, shampoo, towels, tooth paste, toothbrushes, toilet paper, even some small pillows and some bed sheets, and usually a 3 pack of light bulbs.

We made hundreds of those boxes.

When people came and stayed there, and fed there, and so on... part of real charity is not just doing that, but also helping people back on their feet.

Another example, is the convict shelter, again run by an evangelical mission. You can stay there, free room, free food, free everything. But... you have to get a job. Any job. Must work 40 hours a week, and they had work placement programs for all convicts. Again, no rent payment, nothing.

Also you must take a class. Any class. A class on typing. A class on pipe-fitting. A class on reading and writing if you need it. But you have to take a class.

All the food you can eat, no cost on a room, no other requirements. And these convicts would graduate from classes, and work full time jobs, and eventually they would move out.

Again... you are helping people to succeed in life. Not helping them stay in their miserable condition for life.

And this is where the Bible is very clear.... 2 Thess 3:10

For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat."
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So when a person shows up wanting food... yes you feed them. And you help them as best you can. But when you find out that they simply don't want to work, then you cut them off.

All those charities, have that as a rule. The homeless shelter, if the same guy in there for a month, has made no effort to enroll in a training program, has made no effort to get a job, then the shelter manager will sit the guy down, explain how this works, and if he still refuses to do anything... they kick him out.

Not going to feed some perfectly able bodied person who has no mental issues, simply because he wants to be lazy and live in his poverty on the backs of working people... not a chance. So they kick the guy out.

You don't work, you don't eat. And again, we are talking about able bodied people, who don't have mental issues.

But this is the exact opposite of left-wing ideology, where AOC wants a living wage so people can be professional useless people, who sit at home being lazy on the backs of working people. This is the exact opposite of the Bernie, everyone is entitled to help, no matter how irresponsible they are.

Left-wing ideology encourages the worst of human behavior with rewards.

Please post the Cliff Notes version of your heroic charitable activities.

I suppose that was pretty long read, for someone like you, who simply does not care about helping people.

Your definition of "helping people" is a reverse spin on the true meaning of the term; and, yes, I am not interested in "helping people" by allowing them to die of exposure.

If letting a few people die of exposure discourages others from coming it is certainly helping people.

don't care about natural rights because this is not an abortion thread?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Here you go. The first Journal article is particularly enlightening. Read and weep if you actually care about people. You progressive scum hit me with your laugh emojis. It's all you can do it seems.

Mexican Deaths in the Arizona Desert: The Culpability of Migrants, Humanitarian Workers, Governments, and Businesses

Mexican Deaths in the Arizona Desert: The Culpability of Migrants, Humanitarian Workers, Governments, and Businesses on JSTOR



Border crossers, and the desert that claims them

What happens when migrants die in the Arizona desert?

Illegal: Life and Death in Arizona's Immigration War Zone | Goucher College

Deaths in the Desert: The Human Rights Crisis on the U.S.—Mexico Border on JSTOR

Do you have the first one in PDF form, I am not paying 43.95 for a decade old article that seems to place most of the blame on U.S. free trade policies and U.S. businesses employing undocumented immigrants.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Here you go. The first Journal article is particularly enlightening. Read and weep if you actually care about people. You progressive scum hit me with your laugh emojis. It's all you can do it seems.

Mexican Deaths in the Arizona Desert: The Culpability of Migrants, Humanitarian Workers, Governments, and Businesses

Mexican Deaths in the Arizona Desert: The Culpability of Migrants, Humanitarian Workers, Governments, and Businesses on JSTOR



Border crossers, and the desert that claims them

What happens when migrants die in the Arizona desert?

Illegal: Life and Death in Arizona's Immigration War Zone | Goucher College

Deaths in the Desert: The Human Rights Crisis on the U.S.—Mexico Border on JSTOR

With the possible exception of the first one, not a single article links the deaths of the illegals to people leaving water for them.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Here you go. The first Journal article is particularly enlightening. Read and weep if you actually care about people. You progressive scum hit me with your laugh emojis. It's all you can do it seems.

Mexican Deaths in the Arizona Desert: The Culpability of Migrants, Humanitarian Workers, Governments, and Businesses

Mexican Deaths in the Arizona Desert: The Culpability of Migrants, Humanitarian Workers, Governments, and Businesses on JSTOR



Border crossers, and the desert that claims them

What happens when migrants die in the Arizona desert?

Illegal: Life and Death in Arizona's Immigration War Zone | Goucher College

Deaths in the Desert: The Human Rights Crisis on the U.S.—Mexico Border on JSTOR

From your first article...I found a free copy of it.

"The evidence seems to weigh against the claim
that water jugs influence migration. Those in close
contact with migrants on a daily basis (e.g., Mexican
security agents, border educators, and Catholic migrant shelter workers) claim that the placement of
water jugs or other humanitarian assistance does not
influence the decision of a migrant to take one path
over another, much less whether he or she will cross
the border in the first place"

Another fail by the westwall.

Got anything else?

 

[Flash]

Judge's Ruling Shows Religious Freedom Isn’t Just For The Christian Right

For Scott Warren, a 37-year-old geography teacher from Ajo, Arizona, freedom of religion means making sure migrants crossing a treacherous stretch of desert along the U.S.-Mexico border don’t die of dehydration.

What do you all think, does this fall under Religious Liberty?

Fuck illegals. If they don't want to cross treacherous desert then they should stay at home.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Judge's Ruling Shows Religious Freedom Isn’t Just For The Christian Right

For Scott Warren, a 37-year-old geography teacher from Ajo, Arizona, freedom of religion means making sure migrants crossing a treacherous stretch of desert along the U.S.-Mexico border don’t die of dehydration.

What do you all think, does this fall under Religious Liberty?

Fuck illegals. If they don't want to cross treacherous desert then they should stay at home.

This thread is about religious liberty, not illegals. Do try and keep up.