@Anyone @Everyone | Name a Half Dozen Left Wing Extremists in Congress

[Quantum Windbag]

Yes there are moderate democrats in Congress. Happy? Seems like a silly way to ask a question.

Do we detect hostility? Hope not.

You didn't or couldn't name moderates in Congress? Why? And Dante didn't ask for moderates in each or any specific party.

Can you not read? I said yes i could name them, and I can. I just don't see the point. You asked if I thought there were moderates in Congress and I said yes. If that is all there is to the point of this thread then yeah, it's a pretty silly way to ask.

Dante thinks silly is normal because the doctor bashed his head against a wall when he was born.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Any honest and meaningful discussion of political extremists would have to include a reference to moderates. How else would people know where others are coming from?

It is not to attack others views of what constitutes extremism and modetates, but extremism as a term implies there are moderates that exist, no?

Really? People have written whole books about Lenin without once mentioning Gandhi. You don't get to dicate to anyone the way they talk, unless you want me to start imposing arbitrary rules on your posts.

Shouting, attacking, playing at scoring silly little girlyman points is not attempting to have a discussion.

As far as writing a book goes....this is a discussion forum, not a tome to be read.

ltr
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[Avorysuds]

and yet obama has followed his doctrine to the tee and even gone beyond it....but that is ok with you because obama is a D

But that’s not extreme – it’s innovative and inspiring!

Well first..he hasn't followed the doctrine.

But if he had?

Once employed? The doctrine is no longer "unprecedented".

That's kinda why extremism is pretty dangerous.

I'll do something you never do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_Doctrine

1:"Make no distinction between terrorists and the nations that harbor them--and hold both to account."
2: "Take the fight to the enemy overseas before they can attack us again here at home."
3: "Confront threats before they fully materialize."
4: "Advance liberty and hope as an alternative to the enemy's ideology of repression and fear."


I'm lost because we're still in Afghanistan...

The war on terror is still expanded beyond what Bush had it at.

We're still fighting "over there" so we don't have to fight them here.

Syria and Iran are being preemptively fought with before threats are actually relevant.

And Obama still claims he's speeding democracy, through war.

WTF dude....

 

[Meathead]

Any honest and meaningful discussion of political extremists would have to include a reference to moderates. How else would people know where others are coming from?

It is not to attack others views of what constitutes extremism and modetates, but extremism as a term implies there are moderates that exist, no?

Really? People have written whole books about Lenin without once mentioning Gandhi. You don't get to dicate to anyone the way they talk, unless you want me to start imposing arbitrary rules on your posts.

Shouting, attacking, playing at scoring silly little girlyman points is not attempting to have a discussion.

As far as writing a book goes....this is a discussion forum, not a tome to be read.

ltr
D

Neither Ghandhi nor Lenin were moderates for their time, or even today for that matter.

 

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[MENTION=15512]Dante[/MENTION]
Keeper

Maxine Waters
Diane Feinstein
Sheila Jackson Lee
Nancy Pelosi
Chuck Schumer
Dick Durbin
Debbie Wasserman Schultz
"Dingy" Harry Reid
Al Franken

And let's not forget my congressman, the Supreme Nutcase: Alan Grayson.

Can name any moderates?

Yes I can, but first, explain the point.

This one member/poster couldn't or wouldn't list moderates in Congress.

The trollls fell back into hijacking a thread and making it about Democrats or worse, made it about attacking Dante personally.

Don't believe me...read the posts #1 through #60...follow it as it unfolded. It should be quite educational for those who would like to see how things go south here @ usmb and elsewhere

 

[Papageorgio]

Any honest and meaningful discussion of political extremists would have to include a reference to moderates. How else would people know where others are coming from?

It is not to attack others views of what constitutes extremism and modetates, but extremism as a term implies there are moderates that exist, no?

so dante gets his question answered, one he thought couldn't be answered....soi he moves the goal posts

That's what I'm seeing, pretty funny and he pretends he is above the fray.

 

[Avorysuds]

[MENTION=15512]Dante[/MENTION]
Keeper

Can name any moderates?

Yes I can, but first, explain the point.

This one member/poster couldn't or wouldn't list moderates in Congress.

The trollls fell back into hijacking a thread and making it about Democrats or worse, made it about attacking Dante personally.

Don't believe me...read the posts #1 through #60...follow it as it unfolded. It should be quite educational for those who would like to see how things go south here @ usmb and elsewhere

Was the original question in your OP to list moderates? I'm asking this because if it was not then you hijacked your own thread, making you the problem.

 

[daveman]

@Anyone @Everyone | Name a Half Dozen Left Wing Extremists in Congress

It should be easy, shouldn't it?

It is. It's just as easy to name 70 (from 2009):

American Socialists Release Names of 70 Congressional Democrats in Their Ranks | The Gateway Pundit

The Socialist Party of America announced in their October 2009 newsletter that 70 Congressional democrats currently belong to their caucus.
This admission was recently posted on Scribd.com:

American Socialist Voter–
Q: How many members of the U.S. Congress are also members of the DSA?
A: Seventy

Q: How many of the DSA members sit on the Judiciary Committee?
A: Eleven: John Conyers [Chairman of the Judiciary Committee], Tammy Baldwin, Jerrold Nadler, Luis Gutierrez,
Melvin Watt, Maxine Waters, Hank Johnson, Steve Cohen, Barbara Lee, Robert Wexler, Linda Sanchez [there are 23 Democrats on the Judiciary Committee of which eleven, almost half, are now members of the DSA].

Q: Who are these members of 111th Congress?
A: See the listing below

Co-Chairs
Hon. Raúl M. Grijalva (AZ-07)
Hon. Lynn Woolsey (CA-06)

Vice Chairs
Hon. Diane Watson (CA-33)
Hon. Sheila Jackson-Lee (TX-18)
Hon. Mazie Hirono (HI-02)
Hon. Dennis Kucinich (OH-10)

Senate Members
Hon. Bernie Sanders (VT)

House Members
Hon. Neil Abercrombie (HI-01)
Hon. Tammy Baldwin (WI-02)
Hon. Xavier Becerra (CA-31)
Hon. Madeleine Bordallo (GU-AL)
Hon. Robert Brady (PA-01)
Hon. Corrine Brown (FL-03)
Hon. Michael Capuano (MA-08)
Hon. André Carson (IN-07)
Hon. Donna Christensen (VI-AL)
Hon. Yvette Clarke (NY-11)
Hon. William “Lacy” Clay (MO-01)
Hon. Emanuel Cleaver (MO-05)
Hon. Steve Cohen (TN-09)
Hon. John Conyers (MI-14)
Hon. Elijah Cummings (MD-07)
Hon. Danny Davis (IL-07)
Hon. Peter DeFazio (OR-04)
Hon. Rosa DeLauro (CT-03)
Rep. Donna F. Edwards (MD-04)
Hon. Keith Ellison (MN-05)
Hon. Sam Farr (CA-17)
Hon. Chaka Fattah (PA-02)
Hon. Bob Filner (CA-51)
Hon. Barney Frank (MA-04)
Hon. Marcia L. Fudge (OH-11)
Hon. Alan Grayson (FL-08)
Hon. Luis Gutierrez (IL-04)
Hon. John Hall (NY-19)
Hon. Phil Hare (IL-17)
Hon. Maurice Hinchey (NY-22)
Hon. Michael Honda (CA-15)
Hon. Jesse Jackson, Jr. (IL-02)
Hon. Eddie Bernice Johnson (TX-30)
Hon. Hank Johnson (GA-04)
Hon. Marcy Kaptur (OH-09)
Hon. Carolyn Kilpatrick (MI-13)
Hon. Barbara Lee (CA-09)
Hon. John Lewis (GA-05)
Hon. David Loebsack (IA-02)
Hon. Ben R. Lujan (NM-3)
Hon. Carolyn Maloney (NY-14)
Hon. Ed Markey (MA-07)
Hon. Jim McDermott (WA-07)
Hon. James McGovern (MA-03)
Hon. George Miller (CA-07)
Hon. Gwen Moore (WI-04)
Hon. Jerrold Nadler (NY-08)
Hon. Eleanor Holmes-Norton (DC-AL)
Hon. John Olver (MA-01)
Hon. Ed Pastor (AZ-04)
Hon. Donald Payne (NJ-10)
Hon. Chellie Pingree (ME-01)
Hon. Charles Rangel (NY-15)
Hon. Laura Richardson (CA-37)
Hon. Lucille Roybal-Allard (CA-34)
Hon. Bobby Rush (IL-01)
Hon. Linda Sánchez (CA-47)
Hon. Jan Schakowsky (IL-09)
Hon. José Serrano (NY-16)
Hon. Louise Slaughter (NY-28)
Hon. Pete Stark (CA-13)
Hon. Bennie Thompson (MS-02)
Hon. John Tierney (MA-06)
Hon. Nydia Velazquez (NY-12)
Hon. Maxine Waters (CA-35)
Hon. Mel Watt (NC-12)
Hon. Henry Waxman (CA-30)
Hon. Peter Welch (VT-AL)
Hon. Robert Wexler (FL-19)​

 

[PredFan]

I admit, it was very hard to figure out and list the Moderate democrats these days. there are so very few. Finally, I got 6 of them:

Joe Garcia (D) Fl
Gerry Connolly (D) Va
Joaquin Castro (D) Tx
Bill Foster (D) Ill
Jared Polis (D) Co
Juan Vargas (D) Ca

Moderate Democrats? So you still cannot address a simple issue like moderates in Congress?

Oh well, Dante tried...but best part is how it unfolded is in the database. You did come across as trolling and unable to engage in simple discussion. I guess you are incapable of switching gears from attempting to score cheap message board points and personal attacks.

See you aroind the internets
D

What the fuck? Isn't that what you wanted? Jesus Christ you ARE seriously confused.

 

[daveman]

Socialist Party Of America Publishes Member List: Includes 70 Democrat Congressmen And Congresswomen | Sad Hill News

Beat me to it.

 

[PredFan]

Do we detect hostility? Hope not.

You didn't or couldn't name moderates in Congress? Why? And Dante didn't ask for moderates in each or any specific party.

Can you not read? I said yes i could name them, and I can. I just don't see the point. You asked if I thought there were moderates in Congress and I said yes. If that is all there is to the point of this thread then yeah, it's a pretty silly way to ask.

Dante thinks silly is normal because the doctor bashed his head against a wall when he was born.

I don't think so. When I first came to this board he was a fairly rational person. Almost a year ago, something happened and he's gone way around the bend. Shame really. Actually, I made a thread about it. let me see if i can find it.

Here it is. On 4-20-2013:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/7122720-post1.html

He was an almost completely different person at that point.

 

[TooTall]

@Anyone @Everyone | Name a Half Dozen Left Wing Extremists in Congress

It should be easy, shouldn't it?

Here is one, and I can probably document at least 50 more.

Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) told House Republicans to stop acting like “squealing political pigs.”
That Dick Durbin: Republicans Need To Stop ?Squealing? Like ?Pigs? « Pat Dollard

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Seems like this should have been your OP.

Any honest and meaningful discussion of political extremists would have to include a reference to moderates. How else would people know where others are coming from?

It is not to attack others views of what constitutes extremism and modetates, but extremism as a term implies there are moderates that exist, no?

Why do I have to mention Joseph Kennedy III in the same breath I mention Pelosi? Do Republicans insist that I talk about Lamborn? Is the real problem here that you want to pretend all the radicals are on the other side?

Example of strawmen, red herring or complete ignorance: for those reading here go back to first few pages of posts. Nowhere does Dante refer to party affiliation or anything else except open and honest questions asking to list left wing extremists and then moderates with expainations asking for an honest discussion..

Don't believe me, just go back and read first few pages of posts in this thread

 

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[MENTION=15512]Dante[/MENTION]
Keeper

Yes I can, but first, explain the point.

This one member/poster couldn't or wouldn't list moderates in Congress.

The trollls fell back into hijacking a thread and making it about Democrats or worse, made it about attacking Dante personally.

Don't believe me...read the posts #1 through #60...follow it as it unfolded. It should be quite educational for those who would like to see how things go south here @ usmb and elsewhere

Was the original question in your OP to list moderates? I'm asking this because if it was not then you hijacked your own thread, making you the problem.

For people reading here...go back and read first few pages of posts where a follow up question for clarification to move a discussion forward gets attacked as does the original poster (op) of the original post (op), Dante.

 

[Sallow]

But that’s not extreme – it’s innovative and inspiring!

Well first..he hasn't followed the doctrine.

But if he had?

Once employed? The doctrine is no longer "unprecedented".

That's kinda why extremism is pretty dangerous.

1: You have not provided what the Bush doctrine is.
2: If we start nuking countries is it not extreme because we did it twice?
3: Please back up your claims or stop posting.
4: thank you for not posting anymore in advance.

1. In a nutshell, it's attacking a country preemptively.
2. What do you mean by "nuke"?
3. Done.
4. Getting a little fascist, ain't we?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Maxine Waters
Diane Feinstein
Sheila Jackson Lee
Nancy Pelosi
Chuck Schumer
Dick Durbin
Debbie Wasserman Schultz
"Dingy" Harry Reid
Al Franken

And let's not forget my congressman, the Supreme Nutcase: Alan Grayson.

Can name any moderates?

Can name you English teacher?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Any honest and meaningful discussion of political extremists would have to include a reference to moderates. How else would people know where others are coming from?

It is not to attack others views of what constitutes extremism and modetates, but extremism as a term implies there are moderates that exist, no?

Really? People have written whole books about Lenin without once mentioning Gandhi. You don't get to dicate to anyone the way they talk, unless you want me to start imposing arbitrary rules on your posts.

Shouting, attacking, playing at scoring silly little girlyman points is not attempting to have a discussion.

As far as writing a book goes....this is a discussion forum, not a tome to be read.

ltr
D

If I want to discuss things I don't quote you.

 

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@Anyone @Everyone | Name a Half Dozen Left Wing Extremists in Congress

@Anyone @Everyone | Name a Half Dozen Left Wing Extremists in Congress

It should be easy, shouldn't it?
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Hmmm, name moderates. Can name any moderates?

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Let me see...far left would have to be by definition part of a spectrum. So, do moderates exist in your view? Need help with definition of 'moderate'?

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Maxine Waters
Diane Feinstein
Sheila Jackson Lee
Nancy Pelosi
Chuck Schumer
Dick Durbin
Debbie Wasserman Schultz
"Dingy" Harry Reid
Al Franken

And let's not forget my congressman, the Supreme Nutcase: Alan Grayson.

Can name any moderates?

Yes I can, but first, explain the point.

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The point?

Think of it this way. Left Wing in reference to what? You get a medical test. The results place you in the average range for people of your age, health, etc.. what does it mean? Nothing..it is only a baseline to work off on on subsequent tests. Say you are a bit anemic? Is that normal for you?

Left Wing of what? [MENTION=33194]PredFan[/MENTION] Do moderates exist?

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Do we detect hostility? Hope not.

You didn't or couldn't name moderates in Congress? Why? And Dante didn't ask for moderates in each or any specific party.

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Any honest and meaningful discussion of political extremists would have to include a reference to moderates. How else would people know where others are coming from?

It is not to attack others views of what constitutes extremism and modetates, but extremism as a term implies there are moderates that exist, no?

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[MENTION=1528]Yurt[/MENTION]

I'm surprised you are incapable of an honest and rational discussion. Do you think answering a very simple question closes off any discussion?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Can you not read? I said yes i could name them, and I can. I just don't see the point. You asked if I thought there were moderates in Congress and I said yes. If that is all there is to the point of this thread then yeah, it's a pretty silly way to ask.

Dante thinks silly is normal because the doctor bashed his head against a wall when he was born.

I don't think so. When I first came to this board he was a fairly rational person. Almost a year ago, something happened and he's gone way around the bend. Shame really. Actually, I made a thread about it. let me see if i can find it.

Here it is. On 4-20-2013:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/7122720-post1.html

He was an almost completely different person at that point.

psst, most everyone knows Dante doesn't change. You just might want to go back in time and look at yourself.

just sayin'

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Really? People have written whole books about Lenin without once mentioning Gandhi. You don't get to dicate to anyone the way they talk, unless you want me to start imposing arbitrary rules on your posts.

Shouting, attacking, playing at scoring silly little girlyman points is not attempting to have a discussion.

As far as writing a book goes....this is a discussion forum, not a tome to be read.

ltr
D

Neither Ghandhi nor Lenin were moderates for their time, or even today for that matter.

I picked Lenin because he is an example of an extreme, which the OP claims cannot be discussed without mentioning moderates. I contrasted him with Gandhi because, despite your massive ignorance, he was, politically, a moderate. You are just so extreme he looks extreme, perhaps because he valued truth a hell of a lot more than you do.