AOC says "We’re not going back to working 70 hour weeks"

The average person working in the food industry works 70 hours a week.
They also have little education and the food industry is 24/7.
I hope Liberals on Food Stamps and Welfare are prepared to pay a lot more for food.
I guess it would depend on what part of the food industry you are referring to? Most are lucky to get 40 hours...

Especially right now.
YOU were saying????
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Do you really believe these charts reflect reality!?

Yeah. Easily. I've worked several restaurants. Those graphs match up with my experience.

The only people who worked more than 40 hours, were managers.

The reason for this is obvious, or should be. Managers are paid a ton of money (which compares to their responsibility), and they have to run the operation.

Crew, which makes up the bulk of employees, which hold no responsibility, and are paid hourly, tend to work less than 40 hours a week.

The only exception to this, is usually shift managers. The shift managers are paid hourly, so they try and keep their over time low, but at the same time they are also in charge of the shift, and typically this means they end up being the "fill-in" for missing crew. Every employee that is sick, or often simply refuses to work, the shift manager ends up stepping in to take their place.

So compared to my 4 different retail jobs I have worked in the my life, this graph is dead on accurate.

The top manager or store owner, never worked less than 40 hours.... ever.
Top operation managers and so on, also rarely worked less than 40.
Shift managers and mid-level supervisors, worked more or less than 40, depending on employees showing up on-time, or missing work.
And basic employees... rarely is ever worked over 40. In fact, half rarely put in 40 hours.

So again.. yeah. I think the graph is dead on accurate.
You also worked far away from NY, NJ, FL, CA and other major city where the average uneducated employee is treated like shit and can't afford an attorney to outsmart the attorney from the better university,

See I don't even understand that. If you are treated like sh!t.... quit? Why the heck would you get an attorney? Are you a moron? Get another job.

By the way, I'm amused that you point to all the terrible places where people are treated like Sh!t, and it's like the Top 5 left-wing states in the country.

NY, NJ, FL, CA.

Here in fly-over Ohio, I have a ritual of every Christmas and Thanksgiving, I'll drop a $50 bill, if I go to any restaurant before the holidays. I ordered a $15 pizza, and gave the girl at the Window $50.

But... according to the left-wing... I'm the evil terrible conservative, and you in your left-wing garbage states, by your own words treat people like Sh!t... but your the good guys? Bull crap.

We're better than you people, and always will be.
 
We strongly encourage the following workers to follow her advice:

  • All farmers who supply food to New York City and Washington, DC
  • All supermarket and corner store workers in these areas
  • All delivery drivers
  • All restaurant workers
  • All public transportation workers
  • All utility workers
  • All firefighters
  • All law enforcement
  • All healthcare workers
When havoc ensues after about 72 hours, all complaints should be sent here:
 
The average person working in the food industry works 70 hours a week.
They also have little education and the food industry is 24/7.
I hope Liberals on Food Stamps and Welfare are prepared to pay a lot more for food.
Where did you get your statement average person working in food industry works 70 hours/week???
Here are the FACTS and based on the FACTS you are an out right LIAR! Prove it that food industry works work 70 hours! Prove it!
Do you see the leisure and hospitality? 26.1 hours! In fact the only group working the most at 42.2 hrs is utilities!
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What's funny about this is that everyone I know in any career requiring a advanced degree works at least 80 hours a week.
Don't believe reality matches "Offical" Government rules.
AGAIN what's funny is how many people is that? 10? 20? 100?
Bullshit! AGAIN subjective unqualified and totally irrelevant to what AOC stated. YES I can believe some worked 80 hours! I did when
I was in college. Worked several part time jobs. Went to class and studied for a couple. BUT that is the EXCEPTION! NOT the rule!
Please stop with the personal, subjective statements "80 hours a week" bullshit!
I worked on Wall Street and most of the guys and gals in the Synagogues in my community have advanced degrees...
They have always worked about 70-80 hours a week to make their 100K+ salaries + benefits.
Blue Collar workers have no choice and if they don'[t work the hours they get replaced.
I suggest you go out and take a real hard look because I know you're a hard core Conservative and you want to believe the US economic system is comprised of total justice.
It isn't.
I used to work for a heavy equipment manufacturer right after college. The laborers,machinists,welders etc worked 10 hr days starting at 5:00/6:00 am. With shorter hours during the summer ( too hot).
I have learned over the last 10 years that the real world one lives in depends upon the industry, the locale, the technology and the perceived markets.
These people work their lives away and no one appreciates the fact that the road they drive on and the building they work it relies on the skill and integrity of these people.
Well, after all, their not CEOs!
What the hell does a CEO do anayway?!

What do CEOs do? You don't know? They sign the deals, determine the direction of the company, come up with plans to make new products, refresh old products, and ultimately keep the entire country going.

What do you mean "what do CEOs do?" If you don't know, go learn something. Better yet, go start your own business, and when you are putting in 70 hours a week making that business successful, you'll know what a CEO does.

Dumb question...
What do CEOs of major corporations do?
Ever watch those Sunday morning Finance Programs?
They spend all day Sunday explaining what went right because they found a more efficient way to operate.
That means firing US workers for foreign labor.

They spend all day Sunday explaining what went wrong on strategic errors due to misguided data from others.

Do you know how many billions of dollars are flushed down the drain every year by corporations that stay afloat solely due to Institutional Trading?
Eliminate Institutional Trading, aka gambling, and most MNCs would go bankrupt within a year.
In fact, that's exactly what's happening now.

Where are their assets?
In Institutional Trading!!!

Most financial firms during the DOT COM and Housing Bubble were afloar due soley to Institutional Trading, not wise decisions.
I know, I know, I'm glad you're naive enough not to believe any of this.


CEOs of smaller companies usually spend their time trying to make sure everyone is doing their job.
 
“When we have this discussion about going back or reopening, I think a lot people should just say ‘no, we’re not going back to that.’ We’re not going back to working 70 hour weeks just so that we can put food on the table and not even feel any sort of semblance of security in our lives,” Ocasio-Cortez finished.
Who in the hell works 70 hours a week?!!!

Average Hours per Week Worked (US)
Age
Age 16 years and older: 38.9
Age 16-19: 24.1
Age 20-24: 34.8
Age 25-54: 40.5
55 and Over: 38.0

FACTS.. AOC... FACTS....Do you see the average hours being 70 hours a week!!!

Furthermore, are people actually working “60, 70, 80” hours per week?
The BLS defines full-time workers as those working at least 35 hours per week.
Those working 60 or more hours are workers with two full time jobs, a full time and part time job,
or two part-time jobs that are nearly full-time.
Data show that, among workers with multiple jobs, the vast majority are managing either one full-time job and a secondary part-time job or two part-time jobs. Only a tiny fraction (4 percent) work two full-time jobs.
If we extrapolate their average daily work hours to a full week, multiple jobholders work an average of 42.95 hours per five-day workweek,
relative to 39.7 hours for single jobholders, though they are also more likely to work on the weekends.

Study: People Claiming to Work More Than 70 Hours a Week Are Totally Lying, Probably
Not only that, but the more hours that people work, the more they exaggerate. Americans who say they work 75 hours a week tend to be exaggerating by 25 hours. (The average American work week in September was 34.5 hours, according to the BLS.)


SO...AOC... who is working 70 hours a week? How many Americans work 70 hours a week?
Or is this just more BULLSHIT!!!

Yeah, there are people who work 70 hours a week. Most are CEOs, and all of them do so because they want to. Of course she hates CEOs... but whatever.

I've worked 70 hours a week.... to pay off some debts and bills I had decades ago. Then I quit.

AOC and reality.... the non-stop disconnect.
You're lucky.
There are people across our fruited plain living in Blue Cities, who for one reason or another cannot leave, who spend a lifetime working those hours.

I don't believe you. Gotta be honest. I don't believe you.

In fact the only place I know of where people worked more than 40 hours, were two manufacturing companies that had overtime for a weekend shift. Even then, people openly said they applied for that job specifically because of the overtime.

I was at such a job. Worked there 6 months, and while they said over and over, mandatory over time, they never once had it.

So where are these poor enslaved souls that work 70 hours? Where? What evidence do you have to support such a claim?

More importantly, I had a job that was terrible. I came up with a novel solution. I quit. If you are working too much, why don't you quit?

And by the way, I do not accept "bills and debt" as a reason you can't quit. I have novel solution to that as well... cut the cable TV, cancel internet, turn off your phone. Magic.... bills go away. I know because I did this. Don't spend more money than you make, and you won't have debt. And yes you can do this.

So why don't they quit?
Gotta be honest...I don't care what you believe or think because you ain't been a slave in the Big Apple.
They's work you to death and fire your ass the second you showed the least aspiration to leave and then they'd give a review of you to any prospective employer that you interview well but you're a piece of shit once you're there.

What I really love about you're naiveity is that you think the media actually has web sites dedicated to this fact?
Who the hell do you think lives in the Black or Spanish Hood?

You work in the big city making a few hundred buck a week and it all goes to expenses.
So leave!
To where?
Why not simply thank God that you weren't brought up in one of those metropolises that treats people like shit!
Same to you.

So prove it. Provide your evidence, and I'll believe you.

Again though, if what you say is true... it just proves how bad left-wing ideology sucks. The Big Apple, is the biggest left-wing City in the country. Just proves what we've always said. Left-wingers are terrible people.
 
working from 7 to 11 every night
really makes life a drag
I don't think that's right
I feel I've been the best
the best of fools
 
The average person working in the food industry works 70 hours a week.
They also have little education and the food industry is 24/7.
I hope Liberals on Food Stamps and Welfare are prepared to pay a lot more for food.
Where did you get your statement average person working in food industry works 70 hours/week???
Here are the FACTS and based on the FACTS you are an out right LIAR! Prove it that food industry works work 70 hours! Prove it!
Do you see the leisure and hospitality? 26.1 hours! In fact the only group working the most at 42.2 hrs is utilities!
View attachment 327099
What's funny about this is that everyone I know in any career requiring a advanced degree works at least 80 hours a week.
Don't believe reality matches "Offical" Government rules.
AGAIN what's funny is how many people is that? 10? 20? 100?
Bullshit! AGAIN subjective unqualified and totally irrelevant to what AOC stated. YES I can believe some worked 80 hours! I did when
I was in college. Worked several part time jobs. Went to class and studied for a couple. BUT that is the EXCEPTION! NOT the rule!
Please stop with the personal, subjective statements "80 hours a week" bullshit!
I worked on Wall Street and most of the guys and gals in the Synagogues in my community have advanced degrees...
They have always worked about 70-80 hours a week to make their 100K+ salaries + benefits.
Blue Collar workers have no choice and if they don'[t work the hours they get replaced.
I suggest you go out and take a real hard look because I know you're a hard core Conservative and you want to believe the US economic system is comprised of total justice.
It isn't.
I used to work for a heavy equipment manufacturer right after college. The laborers,machinists,welders etc worked 10 hr days starting at 5:00/6:00 am. With shorter hours during the summer ( too hot).
I have learned over the last 10 years that the real world one lives in depends upon the industry, the locale, the technology and the perceived markets.
These people work their lives away and no one appreciates the fact that the road they drive on and the building they work it relies on the skill and integrity of these people.
Well, after all, their not CEOs!
What the hell does a CEO do anayway?!

What do CEOs do? You don't know? They sign the deals, determine the direction of the company, come up with plans to make new products, refresh old products, and ultimately keep the entire country going.

What do you mean "what do CEOs do?" If you don't know, go learn something. Better yet, go start your own business, and when you are putting in 70 hours a week making that business successful, you'll know what a CEO does.

Dumb question...
What do CEOs of major corporations do?
Ever watch those Sunday morning Finance Programs?
They spend all day Sunday explaining what went right because they found a more efficient way to operate.
That means firing US workers for foreign labor.

They spend all day Sunday explaining what went wrong on strategic errors due to misguided data from others.

Do you know how many billions of dollars are flushed down the drain every year by corporations that stay afloat solely due to Institutional Trading?
Eliminate Institutional Trading, aka gambling, and most MNCs would go bankrupt within a year.
In fact, that's exactly what's happening now.

Where are their assets?
In Institutional Trading!!!

Most financial firms during the DOT COM and Housing Bubble were afloar due soley to Institutional Trading, not wise decisions.
I know, I know, I'm glad you're naive enough not to believe any of this.


CEOs of smaller companies usually spend their time trying to make sure everyone is doing their job.

Cool story bro. No facts and angry opinions. I enjoyed it.
 
“When we have this discussion about going back or reopening, I think a lot people should just say ‘no, we’re not going back to that.’ We’re not going back to working 70 hour weeks just so that we can put food on the table and not even feel any sort of semblance of security in our lives,” Ocasio-Cortez finished.
Who in the hell works 70 hours a week?!!!

Average Hours per Week Worked (US)
Age
Age 16 years and older: 38.9
Age 16-19: 24.1
Age 20-24: 34.8
Age 25-54: 40.5
55 and Over: 38.0

FACTS.. AOC... FACTS....Do you see the average hours being 70 hours a week!!!

Furthermore, are people actually working “60, 70, 80” hours per week?
The BLS defines full-time workers as those working at least 35 hours per week.
Those working 60 or more hours are workers with two full time jobs, a full time and part time job,
or two part-time jobs that are nearly full-time.
Data show that, among workers with multiple jobs, the vast majority are managing either one full-time job and a secondary part-time job or two part-time jobs. Only a tiny fraction (4 percent) work two full-time jobs.
If we extrapolate their average daily work hours to a full week, multiple jobholders work an average of 42.95 hours per five-day workweek,
relative to 39.7 hours for single jobholders, though they are also more likely to work on the weekends.

Study: People Claiming to Work More Than 70 Hours a Week Are Totally Lying, Probably
Not only that, but the more hours that people work, the more they exaggerate. Americans who say they work 75 hours a week tend to be exaggerating by 25 hours. (The average American work week in September was 34.5 hours, according to the BLS.)


SO...AOC... who is working 70 hours a week? How many Americans work 70 hours a week?
Or is this just more BULLSHIT!!!

Yeah, there are people who work 70 hours a week. Most are CEOs, and all of them do so because they want to. Of course she hates CEOs... but whatever.

I've worked 70 hours a week.... to pay off some debts and bills I had decades ago. Then I quit.

AOC and reality.... the non-stop disconnect.
You're lucky.
There are people across our fruited plain living in Blue Cities, who for one reason or another cannot leave, who spend a lifetime working those hours.

I don't believe you. Gotta be honest. I don't believe you.

In fact the only place I know of where people worked more than 40 hours, were two manufacturing companies that had overtime for a weekend shift. Even then, people openly said they applied for that job specifically because of the overtime.

I was at such a job. Worked there 6 months, and while they said over and over, mandatory over time, they never once had it.

So where are these poor enslaved souls that work 70 hours? Where? What evidence do you have to support such a claim?

More importantly, I had a job that was terrible. I came up with a novel solution. I quit. If you are working too much, why don't you quit?

And by the way, I do not accept "bills and debt" as a reason you can't quit. I have novel solution to that as well... cut the cable TV, cancel internet, turn off your phone. Magic.... bills go away. I know because I did this. Don't spend more money than you make, and you won't have debt. And yes you can do this.

So why don't they quit?
Law here is 7-5 M-F with 15 AM break, 1 hr lunch, 15 min at 2-3 and gone at 5. 7-12 Saturdaze.55 hours. That's straight time.When I build things, a lot of them are at it by 6 and work until 6. If it's an install day they'll go 8-9 pm once in a while so they can wrap it up and not travel out of the shop the next day.
A few say... OK,I'll work until "whenever". But I wont be around Sat. Suits me fine too.Nobody wants to work fishing day. Just other self employed assholes like myself.Back in the pre-Corona era I'd spend Sunday, degreasing steel, washing, primer, inventory, service the machines,rolling scrolls,plasma cutting sheets into strips......Monday they simply had to measure, cut, weld and gidder did. I want those days back.
 
“When we have this discussion about going back or reopening, I think a lot people should just say ‘no, we’re not going back to that.’ We’re not going back to working 70 hour weeks just so that we can put food on the table and not even feel any sort of semblance of security in our lives,” Ocasio-Cortez finished.
Who in the hell works 70 hours a week?!!!

Average Hours per Week Worked (US)
Age
Age 16 years and older: 38.9
Age 16-19: 24.1
Age 20-24: 34.8
Age 25-54: 40.5
55 and Over: 38.0

FACTS.. AOC... FACTS....Do you see the average hours being 70 hours a week!!!

Furthermore, are people actually working “60, 70, 80” hours per week?
The BLS defines full-time workers as those working at least 35 hours per week.
Those working 60 or more hours are workers with two full time jobs, a full time and part time job,
or two part-time jobs that are nearly full-time.
Data show that, among workers with multiple jobs, the vast majority are managing either one full-time job and a secondary part-time job or two part-time jobs. Only a tiny fraction (4 percent) work two full-time jobs.
If we extrapolate their average daily work hours to a full week, multiple jobholders work an average of 42.95 hours per five-day workweek,
relative to 39.7 hours for single jobholders, though they are also more likely to work on the weekends.

Study: People Claiming to Work More Than 70 Hours a Week Are Totally Lying, Probably
Not only that, but the more hours that people work, the more they exaggerate. Americans who say they work 75 hours a week tend to be exaggerating by 25 hours. (The average American work week in September was 34.5 hours, according to the BLS.)


SO...AOC... who is working 70 hours a week? How many Americans work 70 hours a week?
Or is this just more BULLSHIT!!!

Yeah, there are people who work 70 hours a week. Most are CEOs, and all of them do so because they want to. Of course she hates CEOs... but whatever.

I've worked 70 hours a week.... to pay off some debts and bills I had decades ago. Then I quit.

AOC and reality.... the non-stop disconnect.
You're lucky.
There are people across our fruited plain living in Blue Cities, who for one reason or another cannot leave, who spend a lifetime working those hours.

I don't believe you. Gotta be honest. I don't believe you.

In fact the only place I know of where people worked more than 40 hours, were two manufacturing companies that had overtime for a weekend shift. Even then, people openly said they applied for that job specifically because of the overtime.

I was at such a job. Worked there 6 months, and while they said over and over, mandatory over time, they never once had it.

So where are these poor enslaved souls that work 70 hours? Where? What evidence do you have to support such a claim?

More importantly, I had a job that was terrible. I came up with a novel solution. I quit. If you are working too much, why don't you quit?

And by the way, I do not accept "bills and debt" as a reason you can't quit. I have novel solution to that as well... cut the cable TV, cancel internet, turn off your phone. Magic.... bills go away. I know because I did this. Don't spend more money than you make, and you won't have debt. And yes you can do this.

So why don't they quit?
Gotta be honest...I don't care what you believe or think because you ain't been a slave in the Big Apple.
They's work you to death and fire your ass the second you showed the least aspiration to leave and then they'd give a review of you to any prospective employer that you interview well but you're a piece of shit once you're there.

What I really love about you're naiveity is that you think the media actually has web sites dedicated to this fact?
Who the hell do you think lives in the Black or Spanish Hood?

You work in the big city making a few hundred buck a week and it all goes to expenses.
So leave!
To where?
Why not simply thank God that you weren't brought up in one of those metropolises that treats people like shit!
Same to you.

So prove it. Provide your evidence, and I'll believe you.

Again though, if what you say is true... it just proves how bad left-wing ideology sucks. The Big Apple, is the biggest left-wing City in the country. Just proves what we've always said. Left-wingers are terrible people.
I am not an ideologue; both extremes are destructive.
Work conditions suck due to Right Wingers.
Neo-Cons always pat themselves on the shoulder for the actual work that others do.

Left Wing and Right Wing politicians need corporate money to run for office.
Reagan and the Bushes made slavery popular again.
Left Wingers take whatever money one makes.

I simply live in a Right Wing region in terms of Corporations but a Left Wing region in term of taxes.
I obviously will not retire in NY.
 
The average person working in the food industry works 70 hours a week.
They also have little education and the food industry is 24/7.
I hope Liberals on Food Stamps and Welfare are prepared to pay a lot more for food.
Where did you get your statement average person working in food industry works 70 hours/week???
Here are the FACTS and based on the FACTS you are an out right LIAR! Prove it that food industry works work 70 hours! Prove it!
Do you see the leisure and hospitality? 26.1 hours! In fact the only group working the most at 42.2 hrs is utilities!
View attachment 327099
What's funny about this is that everyone I know in any career requiring a advanced degree works at least 80 hours a week.
Don't believe reality matches "Offical" Government rules.
AGAIN what's funny is how many people is that? 10? 20? 100?
Bullshit! AGAIN subjective unqualified and totally irrelevant to what AOC stated. YES I can believe some worked 80 hours! I did when
I was in college. Worked several part time jobs. Went to class and studied for a couple. BUT that is the EXCEPTION! NOT the rule!
Please stop with the personal, subjective statements "80 hours a week" bullshit!
I worked on Wall Street and most of the guys and gals in the Synagogues in my community have advanced degrees...
They have always worked about 70-80 hours a week to make their 100K+ salaries + benefits.
Blue Collar workers have no choice and if they don'[t work the hours they get replaced.
I suggest you go out and take a real hard look because I know you're a hard core Conservative and you want to believe the US economic system is comprised of total justice.
It isn't.
I used to work for a heavy equipment manufacturer right after college. The laborers,machinists,welders etc worked 10 hr days starting at 5:00/6:00 am. With shorter hours during the summer ( too hot).
I have learned over the last 10 years that the real world one lives in depends upon the industry, the locale, the technology and the perceived markets.
These people work their lives away and no one appreciates the fact that the road they drive on and the building they work it relies on the skill and integrity of these people.
Well, after all, their not CEOs!
What the hell does a CEO do anayway?!

What do CEOs do? You don't know? They sign the deals, determine the direction of the company, come up with plans to make new products, refresh old products, and ultimately keep the entire country going.

What do you mean "what do CEOs do?" If you don't know, go learn something. Better yet, go start your own business, and when you are putting in 70 hours a week making that business successful, you'll know what a CEO does.

Dumb question...
What do CEOs of major corporations do?
Ever watch those Sunday morning Finance Programs?
They spend all day Sunday explaining what went right because they found a more efficient way to operate.
That means firing US workers for foreign labor.

They spend all day Sunday explaining what went wrong on strategic errors due to misguided data from others.

Do you know how many billions of dollars are flushed down the drain every year by corporations that stay afloat solely due to Institutional Trading?
Eliminate Institutional Trading, aka gambling, and most MNCs would go bankrupt within a year.
In fact, that's exactly what's happening now.

Where are their assets?
In Institutional Trading!!!

Most financial firms during the DOT COM and Housing Bubble were afloar due soley to Institutional Trading, not wise decisions.
I know, I know, I'm glad you're naive enough not to believe any of this.


CEOs of smaller companies usually spend their time trying to make sure everyone is doing their job.

Cool story bro. No facts and angry opinions. I enjoyed it.
Please tell us where your business operates so I can advise graduates to move there.
In fact, most NY graduates leave NY.
They're smart.
 
“When we have this discussion about going back or reopening, I think a lot people should just say ‘no, we’re not going back to that.’ We’re not going back to working 70 hour weeks just so that we can put food on the table and not even feel any sort of semblance of security in our lives,” Ocasio-Cortez finished.
Who in the hell works 70 hours a week?!!!

Average Hours per Week Worked (US)
Age
Age 16 years and older: 38.9
Age 16-19: 24.1
Age 20-24: 34.8
Age 25-54: 40.5
55 and Over: 38.0

FACTS.. AOC... FACTS....Do you see the average hours being 70 hours a week!!!

Furthermore, are people actually working “60, 70, 80” hours per week?
The BLS defines full-time workers as those working at least 35 hours per week.
Those working 60 or more hours are workers with two full time jobs, a full time and part time job,
or two part-time jobs that are nearly full-time.
Data show that, among workers with multiple jobs, the vast majority are managing either one full-time job and a secondary part-time job or two part-time jobs. Only a tiny fraction (4 percent) work two full-time jobs.
If we extrapolate their average daily work hours to a full week, multiple jobholders work an average of 42.95 hours per five-day workweek,
relative to 39.7 hours for single jobholders, though they are also more likely to work on the weekends.

Study: People Claiming to Work More Than 70 Hours a Week Are Totally Lying, Probably
Not only that, but the more hours that people work, the more they exaggerate. Americans who say they work 75 hours a week tend to be exaggerating by 25 hours. (The average American work week in September was 34.5 hours, according to the BLS.)


SO...AOC... who is working 70 hours a week? How many Americans work 70 hours a week?
Or is this just more BULLSHIT!!!

Yeah, there are people who work 70 hours a week. Most are CEOs, and all of them do so because they want to. Of course she hates CEOs... but whatever.

I've worked 70 hours a week.... to pay off some debts and bills I had decades ago. Then I quit.

AOC and reality.... the non-stop disconnect.
You're lucky.
There are people across our fruited plain living in Blue Cities, who for one reason or another cannot leave, who spend a lifetime working those hours.

I don't believe you. Gotta be honest. I don't believe you.

In fact the only place I know of where people worked more than 40 hours, were two manufacturing companies that had overtime for a weekend shift. Even then, people openly said they applied for that job specifically because of the overtime.

I was at such a job. Worked there 6 months, and while they said over and over, mandatory over time, they never once had it.

So where are these poor enslaved souls that work 70 hours? Where? What evidence do you have to support such a claim?

More importantly, I had a job that was terrible. I came up with a novel solution. I quit. If you are working too much, why don't you quit?

And by the way, I do not accept "bills and debt" as a reason you can't quit. I have novel solution to that as well... cut the cable TV, cancel internet, turn off your phone. Magic.... bills go away. I know because I did this. Don't spend more money than you make, and you won't have debt. And yes you can do this.

So why don't they quit?
Law here is 7-5 M-F with 15 AM break, 1 hr lunch, 15 min at 2-3 and gone at 5. 7-12 Saturdaze.55 hours. That's straight time.When I build things, a lot of them are at it by 6 and work until 6. If it's an install day they'll go 8-9 pm once in a while so they can wrap it up and not travel out of the shop the next day.
A few say... OK,I'll work until "whenever". But I wont be around Sat. Suits me fine too.Nobody wants to work fishing day. Just other self employed assholes like myself.Back in the pre-Corona era I'd spend Sunday, degreasing steel, washing, primer, inventory, service the machines,rolling scrolls,plasma cutting sheets into strips......Monday they simply had to measure, cut, weld and gidder did. I want those days back.
You can't have people doing construction when they're exhausted or being a public nusance.
I have great respect for people that actually build things, not so much for people who simply Buy/Sell Stock all day.
 
I can imagine an entrepreneur putting in those 70 hours a week, likely a Republican. Years ago my picture of such a worker would have been an immigrant working multiple jobs to raise money to bring the rest of his family into the country.
 
I can imagine an entrepreneur putting in those 70 hours a week, likely a Republican. Years ago my picture of such a worker would have been an immigrant working multiple jobs to raise money to bring the rest of his family into the country.
Entrepreneurs work way more than 70 hours/week.
 
Has Sandy Ocasio ever released a tax return? There is really no evidence she ever had a job. She is very much like Crazy Bernie. Never worked until getting a "job" as a politician.
 
“When we have this discussion about going back or reopening, I think a lot people should just say ‘no, we’re not going back to that.’ We’re not going back to working 70 hour weeks just so that we can put food on the table and not even feel any sort of semblance of security in our lives,” Ocasio-Cortez finished.
Who in the hell works 70 hours a week?!!!

Average Hours per Week Worked (US)
Age
Age 16 years and older: 38.9
Age 16-19: 24.1
Age 20-24: 34.8
Age 25-54: 40.5
55 and Over: 38.0

FACTS.. AOC... FACTS....Do you see the average hours being 70 hours a week!!!

Furthermore, are people actually working “60, 70, 80” hours per week?
The BLS defines full-time workers as those working at least 35 hours per week.
Those working 60 or more hours are workers with two full time jobs, a full time and part time job,
or two part-time jobs that are nearly full-time.
Data show that, among workers with multiple jobs, the vast majority are managing either one full-time job and a secondary part-time job or two part-time jobs. Only a tiny fraction (4 percent) work two full-time jobs.
If we extrapolate their average daily work hours to a full week, multiple jobholders work an average of 42.95 hours per five-day workweek,
relative to 39.7 hours for single jobholders, though they are also more likely to work on the weekends.

Study: People Claiming to Work More Than 70 Hours a Week Are Totally Lying, Probably
Not only that, but the more hours that people work, the more they exaggerate. Americans who say they work 75 hours a week tend to be exaggerating by 25 hours. (The average American work week in September was 34.5 hours, according to the BLS.)


SO...AOC... who is working 70 hours a week? How many Americans work 70 hours a week?
Or is this just more BULLSHIT!!!

No. I actually work about 60-70 hours a week under normal circumstances.
 
“When we have this discussion about going back or reopening, I think a lot people should just say ‘no, we’re not going back to that.’ We’re not going back to working 70 hour weeks just so that we can put food on the table and not even feel any sort of semblance of security in our lives,” Ocasio-Cortez finished.
Who in the hell works 70 hours a week?!!!

Average Hours per Week Worked (US)
Age
Age 16 years and older: 38.9
Age 16-19: 24.1
Age 20-24: 34.8
Age 25-54: 40.5
55 and Over: 38.0

FACTS.. AOC... FACTS....Do you see the average hours being 70 hours a week!!!

Furthermore, are people actually working “60, 70, 80” hours per week?
The BLS defines full-time workers as those working at least 35 hours per week.
Those working 60 or more hours are workers with two full time jobs, a full time and part time job,
or two part-time jobs that are nearly full-time.
Data show that, among workers with multiple jobs, the vast majority are managing either one full-time job and a secondary part-time job or two part-time jobs. Only a tiny fraction (4 percent) work two full-time jobs.
If we extrapolate their average daily work hours to a full week, multiple jobholders work an average of 42.95 hours per five-day workweek,
relative to 39.7 hours for single jobholders, though they are also more likely to work on the weekends.

Study: People Claiming to Work More Than 70 Hours a Week Are Totally Lying, Probably
Not only that, but the more hours that people work, the more they exaggerate. Americans who say they work 75 hours a week tend to be exaggerating by 25 hours. (The average American work week in September was 34.5 hours, according to the BLS.)


SO...AOC... who is working 70 hours a week? How many Americans work 70 hours a week?
Or is this just more BULLSHIT!!!

Yeah, there are people who work 70 hours a week. Most are CEOs, and all of them do so because they want to. Of course she hates CEOs... but whatever.

I've worked 70 hours a week.... to pay off some debts and bills I had decades ago. Then I quit.

AOC and reality.... the non-stop disconnect.
You're lucky.
There are people across our fruited plain living in Blue Cities, who for one reason or another cannot leave, who spend a lifetime working those hours.

I don't believe you. Gotta be honest. I don't believe you.

In fact the only place I know of where people worked more than 40 hours, were two manufacturing companies that had overtime for a weekend shift. Even then, people openly said they applied for that job specifically because of the overtime.

I was at such a job. Worked there 6 months, and while they said over and over, mandatory over time, they never once had it.

So where are these poor enslaved souls that work 70 hours? Where? What evidence do you have to support such a claim?

More importantly, I had a job that was terrible. I came up with a novel solution. I quit. If you are working too much, why don't you quit?

And by the way, I do not accept "bills and debt" as a reason you can't quit. I have novel solution to that as well... cut the cable TV, cancel internet, turn off your phone. Magic.... bills go away. I know because I did this. Don't spend more money than you make, and you won't have debt. And yes you can do this.

So why don't they quit?
Law here is 7-5 M-F with 15 AM break, 1 hr lunch, 15 min at 2-3 and gone at 5. 7-12 Saturdaze.55 hours. That's straight time.When I build things, a lot of them are at it by 6 and work until 6. If it's an install day they'll go 8-9 pm once in a while so they can wrap it up and not travel out of the shop the next day.
A few say... OK,I'll work until "whenever". But I wont be around Sat. Suits me fine too.Nobody wants to work fishing day. Just other self employed assholes like myself.Back in the pre-Corona era I'd spend Sunday, degreasing steel, washing, primer, inventory, service the machines,rolling scrolls,plasma cutting sheets into strips......Monday they simply had to measure, cut, weld and gidder did. I want those days back.
You can't have people doing construction when they're exhausted or being a public nusance.
I have great respect for people that actually build things, not so much for people who simply Buy/Sell Stock all day.
Climate has a lot to do with it too. Guys down the mountain cant go 6-6 when it's 94-98 outside at 300% humidity. Up here it's blistering for us pussies at 84. Usually it's low-mid 60's until 9-10 am and highs of 76-80 at 2-3pm. Big difference physically.
I did the long hours in Miami but never expected my guys to do it. 7-330 was the rule and lots of them would show at 5-530 and be gone by 1-2 or so"fuck this---gone to da house man".Dumbass me left to pickup, clean up, lock up, feed the fish....8pm AGAIN
 
The average person working in the food industry works 70 hours a week.
They also have little education and the food industry is 24/7.
I hope Liberals on Food Stamps and Welfare are prepared to pay a lot more for food.
Where did you get your statement average person working in food industry works 70 hours/week???
Here are the FACTS and based on the FACTS you are an out right LIAR! Prove it that food industry works work 70 hours! Prove it!
Do you see the leisure and hospitality? 26.1 hours! In fact the only group working the most at 42.2 hrs is utilities!
View attachment 327099
What's funny about this is that everyone I know in any career requiring a advanced degree works at least 80 hours a week.
Don't believe reality matches "Offical" Government rules.
AGAIN what's funny is how many people is that? 10? 20? 100?
Bullshit! AGAIN subjective unqualified and totally irrelevant to what AOC stated. YES I can believe some worked 80 hours! I did when
I was in college. Worked several part time jobs. Went to class and studied for a couple. BUT that is the EXCEPTION! NOT the rule!
Please stop with the personal, subjective statements "80 hours a week" bullshit!
I worked on Wall Street and most of the guys and gals in the Synagogues in my community have advanced degrees...
They have always worked about 70-80 hours a week to make their 100K+ salaries + benefits.
Blue Collar workers have no choice and if they don'[t work the hours they get replaced.
I suggest you go out and take a real hard look because I know you're a hard core Conservative and you want to believe the US economic system is comprised of total justice.
It isn't.
I used to work for a heavy equipment manufacturer right after college. The laborers,machinists,welders etc worked 10 hr days starting at 5:00/6:00 am. With shorter hours during the summer ( too hot).
I have learned over the last 10 years that the real world one lives in depends upon the industry, the locale, the technology and the perceived markets.
These people work their lives away and no one appreciates the fact that the road they drive on and the building they work it relies on the skill and integrity of these people.
Well, after all, their not CEOs!
What the hell does a CEO do anayway?!

What do CEOs do? You don't know? They sign the deals, determine the direction of the company, come up with plans to make new products, refresh old products, and ultimately keep the entire country going.

What do you mean "what do CEOs do?" If you don't know, go learn something. Better yet, go start your own business, and when you are putting in 70 hours a week making that business successful, you'll know what a CEO does.

Dumb question...
What do CEOs of major corporations do?
Ever watch those Sunday morning Finance Programs?
They spend all day Sunday explaining what went right because they found a more efficient way to operate.
That means firing US workers for foreign labor.

They spend all day Sunday explaining what went wrong on strategic errors due to misguided data from others.

Do you know how many billions of dollars are flushed down the drain every year by corporations that stay afloat solely due to Institutional Trading?
Eliminate Institutional Trading, aka gambling, and most MNCs would go bankrupt within a year.
In fact, that's exactly what's happening now.

Where are their assets?
In Institutional Trading!!!

Most financial firms during the DOT COM and Housing Bubble were afloar due soley to Institutional Trading, not wise decisions.
I know, I know, I'm glad you're naive enough not to believe any of this.


CEOs of smaller companies usually spend their time trying to make sure everyone is doing their job.

They spend all day Sunday explaining what went right because they found a more efficient way to operate.​
That means firing US workers for foreign labor.​

If that was true.... then there should be no American labor left. 90% of the population should have been unemployed before 2018.

If you are telling me that every single CEO goes around finding ways to fire US workers, and hire foreign workers, there should be no US workers left to fire by now.

That's ridiculous. Further, it's not even statistically true. Just, flat out, that's wrong. Yes, you might have heard of a few CEOs out of a quarter million CEO in the US, that had to outsource to survive. That's a few out of hundreds of thousands.

Further, do you know what happens to companies that do not operate "efficiently"? They go out of business. Then instead of a few employees being fired, and some outsourcing.... then EVERYONE is fired, and there is NO outsourcing.

By the way, you do realize that outsourcing is a net benefit, right? We're using labor of other countries, to make our country more wealthy. You don't see the countries we outsource too, being more wealthy than us. Name one. Good luck with that.
Do you know how many billions of dollars are flushed down the drain every year by corporations that stay afloat solely due to Institutional Trading?​
Eliminate Institutional Trading, aka gambling, and most MNCs would go bankrupt within a year.​
In fact, that's exactly what's happening now.​
Where are their assets?​
In Institutional Trading!!!​

What are you talking about? Institutional trading, is when you have traders working for an institution.

An institution is for example, a Pension fund for a Union. A retirement system. A 401K, like mine.

Flushed down the drain? Are you kidding? My parents are millionaires because of their investments. I have doubled my money from institutional trading.

What are you talking about? Do you have any idea what you are talking about?
Most financial firms during the DOT COM and Housing Bubble were afloar due soley to Institutional Trading, not wise decisions.​
I know, I know, I'm glad you're naive enough not to believe any of this.​
False? Yes, there were companies that were living off of the sale of their stock during the Dot.com bubble. Housing bubble? I don't think so. No. That's wrong.

But yes, there were companies that were selling their stock based on "we're a dot.com, and we're going to make millions", and then they didn't.

The key here is that every firm that is not producing wealth, sooner or later, will fail. That's the beauty of the capitalist system.

In socialist system, like under the Soviet Union, the companies were held together, for decades on end, by the Soviet Union.

In fact, they had Negative Equity firm. To understand what that means... if you take $500 worth of wood, and turn that into $10 chair that breaks when you sit on it.... you have created 'negative equity'. You have taken materials of a higher value, and turned them into a product of a lower value.

Now how does a company like that stay in business? Socialism. The government made them stay in business, and made them continue to 'de-value' the country. That's why socialism always results in poverty.

In capitalism... yes you can fool people for awhile. Sure. But eventually the people investing are going to see no value being produced, and then the company will fold.

Thus naturally in a capitalist system, inefficient companies are eliminated, and value-wealth producing companies expand and grow.

Back to your point.... there is nothing wrong with institutional trade. And no, most companies are not living off their stock sales. In fact, very few.

What you are saying, isn't even logical. Aside from the Initial Public Offering, Apple computer does not get money from the trading of stocks again, until they make another public offering. There could be decades between the sale of stock for a monetary benefit.

Additionally, the only other time stock is used, is typically in acquisitions. So the company buys up another company, in a stock exchange deal.

Again, how would either of these keep the company afloat? How would a company pay their employees with money from a deal that was entirely in stock?

Not logical.
 
“When we have this discussion about going back or reopening, I think a lot people should just say ‘no, we’re not going back to that.’ We’re not going back to working 70 hour weeks just so that we can put food on the table and not even feel any sort of semblance of security in our lives,” Ocasio-Cortez finished.
Who in the hell works 70 hours a week?!!!

Average Hours per Week Worked (US)
Age
Age 16 years and older: 38.9
Age 16-19: 24.1
Age 20-24: 34.8
Age 25-54: 40.5
55 and Over: 38.0

FACTS.. AOC... FACTS....Do you see the average hours being 70 hours a week!!!

Furthermore, are people actually working “60, 70, 80” hours per week?
The BLS defines full-time workers as those working at least 35 hours per week.
Those working 60 or more hours are workers with two full time jobs, a full time and part time job,
or two part-time jobs that are nearly full-time.
Data show that, among workers with multiple jobs, the vast majority are managing either one full-time job and a secondary part-time job or two part-time jobs. Only a tiny fraction (4 percent) work two full-time jobs.
If we extrapolate their average daily work hours to a full week, multiple jobholders work an average of 42.95 hours per five-day workweek,
relative to 39.7 hours for single jobholders, though they are also more likely to work on the weekends.

Study: People Claiming to Work More Than 70 Hours a Week Are Totally Lying, Probably
Not only that, but the more hours that people work, the more they exaggerate. Americans who say they work 75 hours a week tend to be exaggerating by 25 hours. (The average American work week in September was 34.5 hours, according to the BLS.)


SO...AOC... who is working 70 hours a week? How many Americans work 70 hours a week?
Or is this just more BULLSHIT!!!

No. I actually work about 60-70 hours a week under normal circumstances.

Doing what? What is your position, title and pay?
 
“When we have this discussion about going back or reopening, I think a lot people should just say ‘no, we’re not going back to that.’ We’re not going back to working 70 hour weeks just so that we can put food on the table and not even feel any sort of semblance of security in our lives,” Ocasio-Cortez finished.
Who in the hell works 70 hours a week?!!!

Average Hours per Week Worked (US)
Age
Age 16 years and older: 38.9
Age 16-19: 24.1
Age 20-24: 34.8
Age 25-54: 40.5
55 and Over: 38.0

FACTS.. AOC... FACTS....Do you see the average hours being 70 hours a week!!!

Furthermore, are people actually working “60, 70, 80” hours per week?
The BLS defines full-time workers as those working at least 35 hours per week.
Those working 60 or more hours are workers with two full time jobs, a full time and part time job,
or two part-time jobs that are nearly full-time.
Data show that, among workers with multiple jobs, the vast majority are managing either one full-time job and a secondary part-time job or two part-time jobs. Only a tiny fraction (4 percent) work two full-time jobs.
If we extrapolate their average daily work hours to a full week, multiple jobholders work an average of 42.95 hours per five-day workweek,
relative to 39.7 hours for single jobholders, though they are also more likely to work on the weekends.

Study: People Claiming to Work More Than 70 Hours a Week Are Totally Lying, Probably
Not only that, but the more hours that people work, the more they exaggerate. Americans who say they work 75 hours a week tend to be exaggerating by 25 hours. (The average American work week in September was 34.5 hours, according to the BLS.)


SO...AOC... who is working 70 hours a week? How many Americans work 70 hours a week?
Or is this just more BULLSHIT!!!

Best job I ever had was 70 hours a week. It suited me well at the time, I was 20. That said AOC is just rock dumb right? She says "we're" when she's nothing but an privileged overpaid congressional mouth fully worthless. Actually negative results, she costs us money & time with a dumbing down too.
 
The average person working in the food industry works 70 hours a week.
They also have little education and the food industry is 24/7.
I hope Liberals on Food Stamps and Welfare are prepared to pay a lot more for food.
Where did you get your statement average person working in food industry works 70 hours/week???
Here are the FACTS and based on the FACTS you are an out right LIAR! Prove it that food industry works work 70 hours! Prove it!
Do you see the leisure and hospitality? 26.1 hours! In fact the only group working the most at 42.2 hrs is utilities!
View attachment 327099
What's funny about this is that everyone I know in any career requiring a advanced degree works at least 80 hours a week.
Don't believe reality matches "Offical" Government rules.
AGAIN what's funny is how many people is that? 10? 20? 100?
Bullshit! AGAIN subjective unqualified and totally irrelevant to what AOC stated. YES I can believe some worked 80 hours! I did when
I was in college. Worked several part time jobs. Went to class and studied for a couple. BUT that is the EXCEPTION! NOT the rule!
Please stop with the personal, subjective statements "80 hours a week" bullshit!
I worked on Wall Street and most of the guys and gals in the Synagogues in my community have advanced degrees...
They have always worked about 70-80 hours a week to make their 100K+ salaries + benefits.
Blue Collar workers have no choice and if they don'[t work the hours they get replaced.
I suggest you go out and take a real hard look because I know you're a hard core Conservative and you want to believe the US economic system is comprised of total justice.
It isn't.
I used to work for a heavy equipment manufacturer right after college. The laborers,machinists,welders etc worked 10 hr days starting at 5:00/6:00 am. With shorter hours during the summer ( too hot).
10 hours times 5 days is still 50 hours... not 70 hours.
 
The average person working in the food industry works 70 hours a week.
They also have little education and the food industry is 24/7.
I hope Liberals on Food Stamps and Welfare are prepared to pay a lot more for food.
Where did you get your statement average person working in food industry works 70 hours/week???
Here are the FACTS and based on the FACTS you are an out right LIAR! Prove it that food industry works work 70 hours! Prove it!
Do you see the leisure and hospitality? 26.1 hours! In fact the only group working the most at 42.2 hrs is utilities!
View attachment 327099
What's funny about this is that everyone I know in any career requiring a advanced degree works at least 80 hours a week.
Don't believe reality matches "Offical" Government rules.
AGAIN what's funny is how many people is that? 10? 20? 100?
Bullshit! AGAIN subjective unqualified and totally irrelevant to what AOC stated. YES I can believe some worked 80 hours! I did when
I was in college. Worked several part time jobs. Went to class and studied for a couple. BUT that is the EXCEPTION! NOT the rule!
Please stop with the personal, subjective statements "80 hours a week" bullshit!
I worked on Wall Street and most of the guys and gals in the Synagogues in my community have advanced degrees...
They have always worked about 70-80 hours a week to make their 100K+ salaries + benefits.
Blue Collar workers have no choice and if they don'[t work the hours they get replaced.
I suggest you go out and take a real hard look because I know you're a hard core Conservative and you want to believe the US economic system is comprised of total justice.
It isn't.
I used to work for a heavy equipment manufacturer right after college. The laborers,machinists,welders etc worked 10 hr days starting at 5:00/6:00 am. With shorter hours during the summer ( too hot).
I have learned over the last 10 years that the real world one lives in depends upon the industry, the locale, the technology and the perceived markets.
These people work their lives away and no one appreciates the fact that the road they drive on and the building they work it relies on the skill and integrity of these people.
Well, after all, their not CEOs!
What the hell does a CEO do anayway?!

What do CEOs do? You don't know? They sign the deals, determine the direction of the company, come up with plans to make new products, refresh old products, and ultimately keep the entire country going.

What do you mean "what do CEOs do?" If you don't know, go learn something. Better yet, go start your own business, and when you are putting in 70 hours a week making that business successful, you'll know what a CEO does.

Dumb question...
What do CEOs of major corporations do?
Ever watch those Sunday morning Finance Programs?
They spend all day Sunday explaining what went right because they found a more efficient way to operate.
That means firing US workers for foreign labor.

They spend all day Sunday explaining what went wrong on strategic errors due to misguided data from others.

Do you know how many billions of dollars are flushed down the drain every year by corporations that stay afloat solely due to Institutional Trading?
Eliminate Institutional Trading, aka gambling, and most MNCs would go bankrupt within a year.
In fact, that's exactly what's happening now.

Where are their assets?
In Institutional Trading!!!

Most financial firms during the DOT COM and Housing Bubble were afloar due soley to Institutional Trading, not wise decisions.
I know, I know, I'm glad you're naive enough not to believe any of this.


CEOs of smaller companies usually spend their time trying to make sure everyone is doing their job.

They spend all day Sunday explaining what went right because they found a more efficient way to operate.​
That means firing US workers for foreign labor.​

If that was true.... then there should be no American labor left. 90% of the population should have been unemployed before 2018.

If you are telling me that every single CEO goes around finding ways to fire US workers, and hire foreign workers, there should be no US workers left to fire by now.

That's ridiculous. Further, it's not even statistically true. Just, flat out, that's wrong. Yes, you might have heard of a few CEOs out of a quarter million CEO in the US, that had to outsource to survive. That's a few out of hundreds of thousands.

Further, do you know what happens to companies that do not operate "efficiently"? They go out of business. Then instead of a few employees being fired, and some outsourcing.... then EVERYONE is fired, and there is NO outsourcing.

By the way, you do realize that outsourcing is a net benefit, right? We're using labor of other countries, to make our country more wealthy. You don't see the countries we outsource too, being more wealthy than us. Name one. Good luck with that.
Do you know how many billions of dollars are flushed down the drain every year by corporations that stay afloat solely due to Institutional Trading?​
Eliminate Institutional Trading, aka gambling, and most MNCs would go bankrupt within a year.​
In fact, that's exactly what's happening now.​
Where are their assets?​
In Institutional Trading!!!​

What are you talking about? Institutional trading, is when you have traders working for an institution.

An institution is for example, a Pension fund for a Union. A retirement system. A 401K, like mine.

Flushed down the drain? Are you kidding? My parents are millionaires because of their investments. I have doubled my money from institutional trading.

What are you talking about? Do you have any idea what you are talking about?
Most financial firms during the DOT COM and Housing Bubble were afloar due soley to Institutional Trading, not wise decisions.​
I know, I know, I'm glad you're naive enough not to believe any of this.​
False? Yes, there were companies that were living off of the sale of their stock during the Dot.com bubble. Housing bubble? I don't think so. No. That's wrong.

But yes, there were companies that were selling their stock based on "we're a dot.com, and we're going to make millions", and then they didn't.

The key here is that every firm that is not producing wealth, sooner or later, will fail. That's the beauty of the capitalist system.

In socialist system, like under the Soviet Union, the companies were held together, for decades on end, by the Soviet Union.

In fact, they had Negative Equity firm. To understand what that means... if you take $500 worth of wood, and turn that into $10 chair that breaks when you sit on it.... you have created 'negative equity'. You have taken materials of a higher value, and turned them into a product of a lower value.

Now how does a company like that stay in business? Socialism. The government made them stay in business, and made them continue to 'de-value' the country. That's why socialism always results in poverty.

In capitalism... yes you can fool people for awhile. Sure. But eventually the people investing are going to see no value being produced, and then the company will fold.

Thus naturally in a capitalist system, inefficient companies are eliminated, and value-wealth producing companies expand and grow.

Back to your point.... there is nothing wrong with institutional trade. And no, most companies are not living off their stock sales. In fact, very few.

What you are saying, isn't even logical. Aside from the Initial Public Offering, Apple computer does not get money from the trading of stocks again, until they make another public offering. There could be decades between the sale of stock for a monetary benefit.

Additionally, the only other time stock is used, is typically in acquisitions. So the company buys up another company, in a stock exchange deal.

Again, how would either of these keep the company afloat? How would a company pay their employees with money from a deal that was entirely in stock?

Not logical.
Did you miss Trump's platform and victory?
Most MNC CEOs are pure scum and the millions who knew it and either were victimized by it or were related to those kicked the CEOs in the balls by voting for Trump,

Please explain how anybody at any given moment knows the value of an MNC's stock when there are literallly millions of variables to consider.
Explain the DOT COM crash...
Explain the Housing crash...
Didn't everybody just use your magic formulas and know what was going to happen?

I worked at Bear-Sterns and the CEO would send out an internal email every morning between 3-4 AM saying which stocks to buy/sell at what price for the next 24/7 cycle..
How the hell does anyone know anyone know what's going to happen to any global stock's value over a 24 hour period.
Apparently no one, because Bear-Sterns is no more.

The bottom line is that Directors get together and try to figure out the breaking point of what Internal Traders & Brokers can get away with in order to get suckers to buy their stock so the MNCs can continue to show a quarterly profit.
Crashes? The public says "Fuck You Today" every now and then.
A few seconds pass where they can't find any suckers and they all bow out at once causing a crash.
That's why they cleverly set in place a formula to stop themselves from crashing...so much for a Free Market.

There are very few business leaders to admire...Bezos, Tim Cook...the people who are constantly in the public eye and work their asses off.

Do you remember a scant few years ago when Bezos, against what the MNCs Insider Traders wanted, invested millions in local Warehouses and Amazon's stock tanked.
My man Bezos told them to "Fuck Off, bozos, I'm in this to innovate!" and made the investment.
7 months later Amazon conquered the US and Wall Street suddenly lied their asses off and said they were on board with Bezos from the beginning.

Don't reply until you can explain why crashes occur if these CEOs are so damn brilliant and the "data" they receive contains an ounce of honesty.
 

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