Apartheid Israel

[Marc39]

When did the US join the League of Nations?

The US Congress supported the League of Nations, confused one

The United States Congressional Record
1922 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
NATIONAL HOME FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE JUNE 30, 1922
HOUSE RESOLUTION 360 - UNANIMOUSLY ADOPTED

Palestine of today, the land we now know as Palestine, was peopled by the Jews from the dawn of history until the Roman era. It is the ancestral homeland of the Jewish people. They were driven from it by force by the relentless Roman military machine and for centuries prevented from returning. At different periods various alien people succeeded them but the Jewish race had left an indelible impress upon the land.

Today it is a Jewish country. Every name, every landmark, every monument and every trace of whatever civilization remaining there is still Jewish. And it has ever since remained a hope, a longing, as expressed in their prayers for these nearly 2,000 years. No other people has ever claimed Palestine as their national home. No other people has ever shown an aptitude or indicated a genuine desire to make it their homeland. The land has been ruled by foreigners. Only since the beginning of the modern Zionist effort may it be said that a creative, cultural, and economic force has entered Palestine. The Jewish Nation was forced from its natural home. It did not go because it wanted to.

A perusal of Jewish history, a reading of Josephus, will convince the most skeptical that the grandest fight that was ever put up against an enemy was put up by the Jew. He never thought of leaving Palestine. But he was driven out. But did he, when driven out, give up his hope of getting back? Jewish history and Jewish literature give the answer to the question. The Jew even has a fast day devoted to the day of destruction of the Jewish homeland.

Never throughout history did they give up hope of returning there. I am told that 90 per cent of the Jews today are praying for the return of the Jewish people to its own home. The best minds among them believe in the necessity of reestablishing their Jewish land. To my mind there is something prophetic in the fact that during the ages no other nation has taken over Palestine and held it in the sense of a homeland; and there is something providential in the fact that for 1,800 years it has remained in desolation as if waiting for the return of the people.

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[P F Tinmore]

The League of Nations had nothing to do with Israel.

 

[Marc39]

The League of Nations had nothing to do with Israel.

Dummy, close down Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and Jordan, because the League of Nations established statehood for those countries.

League of Nations Palestine Mandate eventuated in Israeli statehood...

Whereas recognition has thereby been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country

The Mandatory shall be responsible for placing the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home, as laid down in the preamble, and the development of self-governing institutions

An appropriate Jewish agency shall be recognised as a public body for the purpose of advising and co-operating with the Administration of Palestine in such economic, social and other matters as may affect the establishment of the Jewish national home and the interests of the Jewish population in Palestine, and, subject always to the control of the Administration to assist and take part in the development of the country.

The Zionist organization, so long as its organization and constitution are in the opinion of the Mandatory appropriate, shall be recognised as such agency. It shall take steps in consultation with His Britannic Majesty's Government to secure the co-operation of all Jews who are willing to assist in the establishment of the Jewish national home.

The Administration of Palestine shall be responsible for enacting a nationality law. There shall be included in this law provisions framed so as to facilitate the acquisition of Palestinian citizenship by Jews who take up their permanent residence in Palestine.

The Avalon Project : The Palestine Mandate


Now, you know, dummy.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Dummy, close down Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and Jordan, because the League of Nations established statehood for those countries. ~ marc39

The League of Nations did not establish statehood for Israel.

 

[Marc39]

Dummy, close down Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and Jordan, because the League of Nations established statehood for those countries. ~ marc39

The League of Nations did not establish statehood for Israel.

Yes, it did. You're severely uneducated.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Dummy, close down Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and Jordan, because the League of Nations established statehood for those countries. ~ marc39

The League of Nations did not establish statehood for Israel.

Yes, it did. You're severely uneducated.

The League of Nations had nothing to do with Israel.

The Palestine Mandate had nothing to do with Israel.

The UN had nothing to do with Israel.

Israel was declared in Palestine by a bunch of foreigners who had no legal standing to do so.

 

[Marc39]

The League of Nations did not establish statehood for Israel.

Yes, it did. You're severely uneducated.

The League of Nations had nothing to do with Israel.

The Palestine Mandate had nothing to do with Israel.

The UN had nothing to do with Israel.

Israel was declared in Palestine by a bunch of foreigners who had no legal standing to do so.

Open a history book, dummy.

Arabs originated from Arabia. Jews originated from Israel.

Eminent Middle East historian Bernard Lewis...

During the first period in Islamic history [622 AD] when Islam was an Arab religion and the Caliphate an Arab Kingdom, the term Arab came to be applied to those who spoke Arabic, were full members by descent of an Arab tribe, and who, either in person or through their ancestors, had originated in Arabia.

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Now, you know, dummy.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Yes, it did. You're severely uneducated.

The League of Nations had nothing to do with Israel.

The Palestine Mandate had nothing to do with Israel.

The UN had nothing to do with Israel.

Israel was declared in Palestine by a bunch of foreigners who had no legal standing to do so.

Open a history book, dummy.

Arabs originated from Arabia. Jews originated from Israel.

Eminent Middle East historian Bernard Lewis...

During the first period in Islamic history [622 AD] when Islam was an Arab religion and the Caliphate an Arab Kingdom, the term Arab came to be applied to those who spoke Arabic, were full members by descent of an Arab tribe, and who, either in person or through their ancestors, had originated in Arabia.

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Now, you know, dummy.

So?

 

[Marc39]

The League of Nations had nothing to do with Israel.

The Palestine Mandate had nothing to do with Israel.

The UN had nothing to do with Israel.

Israel was declared in Palestine by a bunch of foreigners who had no legal standing to do so.

Open a history book, dummy.

Arabs originated from Arabia. Jews originated from Israel.

Eminent Middle East historian Bernard Lewis...

During the first period in Islamic history [622 AD] when Islam was an Arab religion and the Caliphate an Arab Kingdom, the term Arab came to be applied to those who spoke Arabic, were full members by descent of an Arab tribe, and who, either in person or through their ancestors, had originated in Arabia.

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Now, you know, dummy.

So?

Allah says Israel is for the Jews. Allah is most wise.

Quran 5:20-21...

Remember Moses said to his people: 'O my people! Recall in remembrance the favor of Allah unto you, when He produced prophets among you, made you kings, and gave you what He had not given to any other among the peoples. O my people! Enter the holy land which Allah hath assigned unto you, and turn not back ignominiously, for then will ye be overthrown, to your own ruin.

 

[georgephillip]

"WHAT IS APARTHEID?

"Apartheid literally means separation. It has its roots in the separation of people based on race in South Africa.

"Since then, the application of the word has been made universal, with the adoption of the United Nations 'International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid'.

THE CREATION OF ISRAEL

"In order to understand the current situation in Israel/Palestine, it is necessary to examine the origins of the Israeli state in 1948.

"In that year, which is referred to in Palestine as the Nakba ('catastrophe'), thousands of Palestinians were expelled from their homeland to make way for the creation of Israel.

"These refugees remain today the longest standing refugee population in the world.

"In 1954, Israeli education minister Ben-Zion Dinur proclaimed, 'In our country there is room only for the Jews. We shall say to the Arabs: Get out! If they don’t agree, if they resist, we shall drive them out by force.'”

Apartheid 101

 

[Marc39]

"WHAT IS APARTHEID?

"Apartheid literally means separation. It has its roots in the separation of people based on race in South Africa.

george, you don't even know what apartheid is. You're severely uneducated.

Apartheid was the discrimination of S. Africa's own Black population which was legislated into official policy by denying Blacks the vote.

Pallies are not Israeli citizens.

All Israeli citizens are constitutionally guaranteed equal rights, supported by the Supreme Court, including the right to vote.

Arabic is a national language in Israel.
There are Arabic street signs in Israel.

25% of Hebrew University's student body is Arab.
There are Arab members of the government and the Israeli military.
There is an Arab Supreme Court justice.
Arabs own land in Israel.
Arabs own businesses in Israel.
Arabs have their own media in Israel

Civil rights activist Malcolm Hedding, who fought apartheid in S. Africa, lives in Israel, today, where he extols the equality and freedom in Israel.

Essentially, apartheid was a totalitarian system of governance – not unlike many of the regimes in the Arab world today. A white minority subjugated the overwhelmingly black population. It was ideologically driven and obsessed with racial superiority. The superior whites could not mingle with or even sit on a bench with the inferior black peoples. Even the education system was “dumbed down” for black people because they were deemed mentally inferior.

THERE IS absolutely nothing equivalent to this in the dispute between the Palestinians and Israel today. Within Israel itself, Arabs and Jews share the same shopping malls, benches, hospitals, theaters and, in many cases, suburbs. The educational institutions do not have a
deliberately “dumbed down” Arab curriculum and the privilege of voting is given to all. The Knesset has Arab members, and Jews, Arabs and Palestinians often work together at construction sites, businesses, hotels and elsewhere.

Most important of all is the fact that Israel is a democratic state. Not a perfect one, but it does have democratic institutions and is definitely not governed by a totalitarian minority! In the disputed territories, some 98 percent of the Palestinian Arab population now lives under the governance of their own Palestinian Authority, where they have the right to vote and change their leaders – at least theoretically. True, Israel has adopted security measures that curtail their movement, but these have been necessitated by the conflict and are legitimate acts of self-defense, rather than acts of racial discrimination.

This has absolutely nothing to do with apartheid. The State of Israel is a democracy which must answer to its citizens and thus has demonstrated a willingness to make painful concessions to secure a future of peace with its neighbors. In all cases, it alone has paid the real price by giving up land, which has then been used as a launching pad for further acts of terror.

Even in response to Israel’s most generous peace overtures during the Oslo era, the Palestinians have opted for violence. Waves of suicide bombers attacked Israelis from the porous boundaries surrounding the West Bank. Men, women and children were indiscriminately murdered in buses, restaurants, hotels and shopping malls. To protect herself,
Israel built a security barrier, which in some built-up areas consists of a wall. It was not built to segregate people or discriminate against them, but to protect its own citizens from attack. In this connection, the security fence has been highly successful though even Israelis admit it is regrettable.

Expose ?apartheid? charge's real agenda

 

[Marc39]

"WHAT IS APARTHEID?

The Arab shitholes are apartheid, clueless one.

What About The Arab Apartheid?
by Khaled Abu Toameh

How come the Lebanese students who recently talked about Israel's "war crimes" in the Gaza Strip during Israel Apartheid Week on many North American college campuses had nothing to say about the fact that tens of thousands of Palestinians have been massacred in Lebanon over the past four decades?

Dozens of refugees were killed and hundreds wounded in the three-month offensive that also destroyed thousands of houses inside the refugee camp. Reporters said it was the worst internal violence in Lebanon since the civil war that hit the country between 1975-1990. And just three years ago, the Lebanese Army used heavy artillery to bomb the Nahr-al-Bared refugee camp in north Lebanon.

Abu Toameh, Khaled - News - US News and World Report

 

[Marc39]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX9T4JODRyM

Fakestinians didn't have a flag, because, they never had a country in history, so, they stole the Jordanian flag, dropped the star and made it a Fakestinian flag.

Everything about the Fakestinians is fake, even their flag.

Jordanian flag...
http://www.jordanbkk.com/image/jordan-flag.gif

Fakestinian flag...
http://www.topnews.in/files/palestinian-flag.jpg

Mother Goose is less a fiction than the Fakestinians.

 

[georgephillip]

"...What really happened was that the Zionist movement, from the beginning, looked forward to a practically complete dispossession of the indigenous Arab population so that Israel could be a wholly Jewish state, or as much as was possible.

"Land bought by the Jewish National Fund was held in the name of the Jewish people and could never be sold or even leased back to Arabs (a situation which continues to the present).

"The Arab community, as it became increasingly aware of the Zionists’ intentions, strenuously opposed further Jewish immigration and land buying because it posed a real and imminent danger to the very existence of Arab society in Palestine.

"Because of this opposition, the entire Zionist project never could have been realized without the military backing of the British.

"The vast majority of the population of Palestine, by the way, had been Arabic since the seventh century A.D. (over 1200 years).

"In short, Zionism was based on a faulty, colonialist world-view that the rights of the indigenous inhabitants didn’t matter.

"The Arabs’ opposition to Zionism wasn’t based on anti-Semitism but rather on a totally reasonable fear of the dispossession of their people.

Origin

 

[Marc39]

"...What really happened was that the Zionist movement, from the beginning, looked forward to a practically complete dispossession of the indigenous Arab population so that Israel could be a wholly Jewish state, or as much as was possible.

ifamericansknew.org

Bogus website. This is why you're severely uneducated.

Eminent Middle East historian Bernard Lewis...

Between 1947 and 1949 a large part of the Arab inhabitants of the territories included in the new state of Israel left their homes and took refuge on the West Bank, in the Gaza Strip, and in the neighboring countries.

The Israelis claim that they left at the instigation of their own leaders, who told them to go so as not to interfere with the movements of troops, and promised them that they would return in the wake of the triumphant Arab armies very shortly. The Arabs maintain that they were driven out by the Israelis. Both arguments are true; both are false. Some were undoubtedly told to go by their own leaders; some, notably in the strategically vital corridor between Jerusalem and the coast, were ordered to leave by the advancing Israeli troops.

The great majority [of Arabs], like countless millions of refugees elsewhere, left their homes amid the confusion and panic of invasion and war—one more unhappy part of the vast movement of populations which occurred in the aftermath of World War II. As the Poles fled from the eastern areas seized by the Russians, as the Germans fled from East German territories annexed by the Poles, as millions of Muslims and Hindus fled from India to Pakistan and from Pakistan to India, so too did great numbers of Arabs flee from Palestine to the neighboring Arab states while large numbers of Jews, most of them previously unaffected by Zionist ideology, fled from the tensions which had arisen in the Arab states to the relative safety of Israel.

At the time it was hoped that this problem would be resolved, like the refugee problems in Eastern Europe and in the Indian subcontinent, and that the Arab refugees would be partly resettled in the Arab countries, partly returned to their homes. This did not happen, and with the exception of Jordan, the Arab governments made a point of not according citizenship to the refugees and of opposing their resettlement.

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[docmauser1]

"...What really happened was that the Zionist movement, from the beginning, looked forward to a practically complete dispossession of the indigenous Arab population so that Israel could be a wholly Jewish state, or as much as was possible.

• It is the Palestine® - Israeli conflict, the origin of which is the desire of the largely immigrant bunch of the neighbourhood arabs, who were drawn in by the joovish development projects, to grab what wasn't theirs. To cover such an unpleasant fact the palestinian® mythology was compiled, at the center of which lies a fairy-tale about the "indigenous palestinian people"®.
• Quoting "ifamericansknew" and other palestinian® pornsites is obscene and bad manners too.

 

[Marc39]

The vast majority of the population of Palestine, by the way, had been Arabic since the seventh century A.D. (over 1200 years).

Re-inventing history?

Jews lived in "Palestine" 2000 years before Arabs, who originated from Arabia in 636 AD.

The Merneptah Stele shows Jews lived in "Palestine" at least since 1300 BCE.

Furthermore, the correct historical geographical description of the land is Judea or Canaan, not Palestine, which was a Roman invention when they renamed Judea "Palestina" after the Philistines, who were Greek, not Aegean.

Arabs don't even recognize "Palestine," it was always southern Syria.

Eminent Middle East historian Bernard Lewis edifies further...

The word Palestine comes from "Philistine" and originally denoted the coastal region north and south of Gaza [not the land now known as Israel] which was occupied and settled by the Philistine invaders from across the sea [who were Aegean, not Arab or Jewish

Palestine was sometimes extended to include territories further east but was not usually applied to Judaea [Israel, today] , which in Roman times was still officially and commonly known by that name.

It would seem that the name Judaea was abolished at the same time as Jerusalem and the country renamed Palestina or Syria-Palestina with the same intention to obliterate its historic Jewish identity.

After the Ottoman conquest in 1516-17...Palestine was no longer used by Muslims, for whom it had never meant more than an administrative sub-district [of Syria and Lebanon], and it had been forgotten even in that limited sense. In the final phase of this rule before the British conquest, Palestine was part of Beirut. The Palestine entity, formally established and defined by Britain, was formaly abolished in 1948 with the termination of the Mandate.

For Arabs, too, the term Palestine was unacceptable, though for other reasons. For Muslims it was alien and irrelevant but not abhorrent in the same way as it was to Jews. The main objection for them was that it seemed to assert a separate entity which politically conscious Arabs in Palestine and elsewhere denied. For them there was no such thing as a country called Palestine. The region which the British called Palestine was merely a separated part of a larger whole. For a long time organized and articulate Arab political opinion was virtually unanimous on this point.

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[Urbanguerrilla]

Jews lived in "Palestine" 2000 years before Arabs, who originated from Arabia in 636 AD.

And you know for a fact that the people who are todays Palestinians are not decended from the original Jews of Biblical times, who adopted Arabic culture and Islam during the Arabic reign over the region?

 

[Marc39]

Jews lived in "Palestine" 2000 years before Arabs, who originated from Arabia in 636 AD.

And you know for a fact that the people who are todays Palestinians are not decended from the original Jews of Biblical times, who adopted Arabic culture and Islam during the Arabic reign over the region?

Monkey Boy, stop inventing bullshit, your only skill.

Pallies are merely Arabs who originated from Arabia. They didn't even call themselves Pallies until 1967.

Eminent Middle East historian Bernard Lewis...

During the first period in Islamic history [622 AD] when Islam was an Arab religion and the Caliphate an Arab Kingdom, the term Arab came to be applied to those who spoke Arabic, were full members by descent of an Arab tribe, and who, either in person or through their ancestors, had originated in Arabia.

The word Palestine comes from "Philistine" and originally denoted the coastal region north and south of Gaza [not the land now known as Israel] which was occupied and settled by the Philistine invaders from across the sea [who were Aegean, not Arab or Jewish

Palestine was sometimes extended to include territories further east but was not usually applied to Judaea [Israel, today] , which in Roman times was still officially and commonly known by that name.

It would seem that the name Judaea was abolished at the same time as Jerusalem and the country renamed Palestina or Syria-Palestina with the same intention to obliterate its historic Jewish identity.

After the Ottoman conquest in 1516-17...Palestine was no longer used by Muslims, for whom it had never meant more than an administrative sub-district [of Syria and Lebanon], and it had been forgotten even in that limited sense. In the final phase of this rule before the British conquest, Palestine was part of Beirut. The Palestine entity, formally established and defined by Britain, was formaly abolished in 1948 with the termination of the Mandate.

For Arabs, too, the term Palestine was unacceptable, though for other reasons. For Muslims it was alien and irrelevant but not abhorrent in the same way as it was to Jews. The main objection for them was that it seemed to assert a separate entity which politically conscious Arabs in Palestine and elsewhere denied. For them there was no such thing as a country called Palestine. The region which the British called Palestine was merely a separated part of a larger whole. For a long time organized and articulate Arab political opinion was virtually unanimous on this point.

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[georgephillip]

"...What really happened was that the Zionist movement, from the beginning, looked forward to a practically complete dispossession of the indigenous Arab population so that Israel could be a wholly Jewish state, or as much as was possible.

• It is the Palestine® - Israeli conflict, the origin of which is the desire of the largely immigrant bunch of the neighbourhood arabs, who were drawn in by the joovish development projects, to grab what wasn't theirs. To cover such an unpleasant fact the palestinian® mythology was compiled, at the center of which lies a fairy-tale about the "indigenous palestinian people"®.
• Quoting "ifamericansknew" and other palestinian® pornsites is obscene and bad manners too.

“Professor Erich Fromm, a noted Jewish writer and thinker, [stated]...’In general international law, the principle holds true that no citizen loses his property or his rights of citizenship; and the citizenship right is de facto a right to which the Arabs in Israel have much more legitimacy than the Jews.

"Just because the Arabs fled?

"Since when is that punishable by confiscation of property, and by being barred from returning to the land on which a people’s forefathers have lived for generations?

"Thus, the claim of the Jews to the land of Israel cannot be a realistic claim.

"If all nations would suddenly claim territory in which their forefathers had lived two thousand years ago, this world would be a madhouse...

"I believe that, politically speaking, there is only one solution for Israel, namely, the unilateral acknowledgment of the obligation of the State towards the Arabs — not to use it as a bargaining point, but to acknowledge the complete moral obligation of the Israeli State to its former inhabitants of Palestine’..."

Are you also smarter than Erich Fromm?