Are Blacks More Racist Than Whites? Most Americans Say Yes

[Cecilie1200]

And the answer is:
Publicly speak out about how they feel without fear of reprisals.

African Americans can't be called racist more racist than whites because we don't have the ability to deny anyone.

But come back to me when black people begin lynching, raping, oppressing, exploiting, shooting, jailing, whipping, maiming, torturing, evangelizing, robbing, stereotyping, bullying, bombing, segregating, building highways and thruways to dislocate and dismantle businesses, communities and neighborhoods; creating sun-down towns, experimenting on, discriminating against, prohibiting, murdering, holding back and controlling in every imaginable way, hating white ppl en mass via de jure and de facto racism for hundreds of years, then and only then can calling black people racists make sense.

But let's look at this "We whites can't speak out about how they feel without fear of reprisals"

So what do you want to say ?

You want to shout from the roof tops that "You hate n.i.g.g.e.r.s" ? You have a system that tells us that everyday.

Next

So what do what do you want to say about black people that you can't without fear of reprisals ?

You want insult black people verbally face to face ?

Well there are gonna be reprisals and could end with you getting your ass kicked or even worse.

That you won’t be able to understand this simple point is nothing so much as your own sense of entitlement. Whites are not used to anyone telling them that they can’t do something and you take offense when your freedom to offend is constrained.

Plus how you or anyone could believe you can't critique black people when we live in a global culture where critique of black people is a daily, hourly, minute-by-minute pastime is beyond me.

You have Donald Trump in the big house and white people still complain ? A man who is gonna be the most pro-white president in a long time.

And you still complain ?

The fact is if you are a white person living in the most European nations or in the US you experience less censorship than any other demographic on this planet. You have easier access to more resources including paper, pens, computers and dictaphones. Not only do you have more ability to access the internet to publish online. You have n*ggermania, shitskin, chimpout and chimpmania websites where you can talk shit about black people all day.

White people also have the world's strongest publishing industry statistically supporting them more than any other group where you read books like the Bell Curve which tries to prove how stupid black people are.

Nobody is less prevented from writing whatever they want to than whites. White supremacist are allowed to run a muck on here, run a muck on twitter, run a muck on facebook, run a muck reddit, run a muck on 4chan.

So once again what do what do you want to say about black people that you can't without fear of reprisals ?

This is Part 9 of THIS IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE SAID. You will find the other parts of this in posts 1445, 1448, 1460 1477, 1488,1505, 1516, and 1532. I'm just having to respond to a different poster.

1) In America, blacks have been found guilty of raping, oppressing, exploiting, shooting, jailing, whipping, maiming, torturing, evangelizing, robbing, stereotyping, bullying, and segregating - even when they get a free pass. To the rest of your complaints, I'd have to do a bit of research in order to respond

2) According to the Washington Times:

"Is Jamie Foxx a racist? The actor recently hosted “Saturday Night Live,” delivering a rant that was supposed to be funny. It wasn’t. In fact, had a white person delivered the same monologue but simply exchanged the word “white” for “black,” his career would be over. The hypocrisy and double standard are egregious. They must stop. Black bigotry should no longer be condoned, let alone celebrated."

KUHNER: Jamie Foxx and the rise of black bigotry

3) EVERYTHING that I've said on this board, I'm willing to say it to anyone's face. I once knew a guy that had a mouth like you. He had clout though. He was Martin Luther King, Jr.s right hand man. He had a tv show and I ended up debating him face to face. His name was Hosea Williams. When that discussion ended, the show was NOT renewed for another season... and everything I wanted to say at that time was said. I keep repeating this son. You can't call people out in open forum. If you want to make a challenge; do it in a PM

4) Personally, I don't have the capacity to hate anyone. God's law supersedes ALL the other laws. But, I have been admonished to "Debate thy cause with thy neighbour himself; and discover not a secret to another:" Proverbs 25 : 9

Black people make a lot of false statements, but they don't want us to remind them of how dishonest they are and how wrong they are. No black person ever lost their Hollywood gig nor their sports position for saying things against whites, but they have said things...

5) Donald Trump is not a friend to the white people. He has settled for National Socialist solutions; he has preached a doctrine of intolerance for undocumented foreigners while employing them; he supports an agenda that, over time, will be very costly to the whites in terms of their Liberty and Freedom; Trump has no regard for unalienable Rights.

IF you were wise, you would celebrate Trump. His actions have made the liberals more determined to win than under any president in history. Democrats will retake the Senate - maybe the House and Trump's policies are deliberately designed to fail. So YOU should be happy.

As a side note, I should not have to go off into the Twilight Zone among kooks just to tell you that black people can and are just as racist as whites... but moreso, because, as the Washington Times article implied, black people are NOT held accountable in the mainstream for their racist attitudes.

Blacks have not been as racist as whites. That's the problem with your opinion.

You underestimate how much you and your ilk have made up for.

The only ACTUAL problem you have with his opinion is that he's not kissing your ass and agreeing with your victimhood.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Nobody ambushes you. If is the other way around. Your mindthought seems to lean toward violence. What an angry little man, pity.

I'm not the one who said anything about an ambush. Learn to read. I pity you because you are dumb. .For example when a white person tries to diss a black person for being angry, this is saying that you have no right to be angry about what we do to you because we are superior to you. And you are too dumb to see how racist that really is.

So while you move along in classic valley girl fashion at age 60 something while ignoring all the racism posted here in these forums while telling us how its all in the past, don't be as dumb to think we have no right to be angry about the racism we still see .going on.

Because Humone has posted 4 essays justifying white supremacy and instead of criticizing him for that, you are here talking stupid about how I am rhe racist. But you are not a racist, you just don't say anything to white racists and you jump all over blacks calling them racists for pointing out white racism. No you are not a racist, you just felt fine contributing to racist threads by whites but when a black person says we should have a conversation about race suddenly why should we talk abut race. Oh no you aren't a racist but when another white woman decided to agree with blacks you called her a black apologist. No, you are not a racist, you felt fine posting in threads by whites that denigrated blacks, but when blacks started to fight back, suddenly why must we make everything about race in a section where race is supposed to be discussed.

Of course you will deny these things and that's doesn't bother me for in the end I am not the one you must answer to.

I dont diss you because you are black, i despise your arrogant attitude, you are the one who thinks you are superior to whites. When did i call someone an apologist? Unless a white person apologizes for something whites did to blacks before our time, i would have no issue with it and again it is not racist. Disagreeing with you is not racist, where did i agree with whites denegrating blacks? Liar, you are really pathetic

I have never said was superior to anyone. I have spoken truth. You can't handle he truth. You are where you at because of things done before our time. But that's how dumb you are. Things that happened before your time is why you barbeque on July 4th every year. So you don't get to ignore it because it shows that you are where you are today as result of evil included in the same past you celebrate on the fourth of July.

You have not endured for one day in your life anything me and the other blacks here have during our lifetimes. The least of my concerns is some white person telling me they don't like me because I'm black. But if that happens to you that's a major case. I've been denied jobs, promotions, harassed by cops and accused of crimes. I never have had a criminal record. Because of the police harassment I have endured that still happens even now in my advanced age, I do not leave my house after dark. During my years of work I have received those funny phone calls where I got called racial slurs, my life threatened, letters with pictures of blacks hanging, more threats, pictures of monkeys and apes all because I was opposing white racism. One black here has described where he had to watch his parents get shit and piss thrown on them by whites. That's racism Molly and until you experience these things you haven't experienced racism. You can argue till hell freezes over about what you think I don't know about what you or whites haven't experienced but if you had experienced any of these things, you would not hold the positions you do today.

Everyone is where they are today because of the past. I dont deny anything that happened in the past, i dont dwell on it either. What is it you are expecting from us collectively? I certainly am not dumb and for you to keep calling me that shows you think you are superior

You are dumb. Me saying that doesn't imply that I am superior to white people. Until past damages are fixed, we are going to talk about what those damages have caused. We expect that whites like you stop making excuses and work to erase the racism in your communities.

"Until past damages are fixed". Specifically what "past damages" have been left unfixed?

I don't notice anyone "making excuses", hon. That would imply that we think we NEED to excuse ourselves to you, and you are who, exactly, that we give a damn about?

Hate to break it to you, Sparkles, but there is no racism in my life for which I bear any responsibility, and I personally will not be accepting delivery on the load of faked-up "white guilt" you're trying to dump.

 

[Correll]

I'm not the one who said anything about an ambush. Learn to read. I pity you because you are dumb. .For example when a white person tries to diss a black person for being angry, this is saying that you have no right to be angry about what we do to you because we are superior to you. And you are too dumb to see how racist that really is.

So while you move along in classic valley girl fashion at age 60 something while ignoring all the racism posted here in these forums while telling us how its all in the past, don't be as dumb to think we have no right to be angry about the racism we still see .going on.

Because Humone has posted 4 essays justifying white supremacy and instead of criticizing him for that, you are here talking stupid about how I am rhe racist. But you are not a racist, you just don't say anything to white racists and you jump all over blacks calling them racists for pointing out white racism. No you are not a racist, you just felt fine contributing to racist threads by whites but when a black person says we should have a conversation about race suddenly why should we talk abut race. Oh no you aren't a racist but when another white woman decided to agree with blacks you called her a black apologist. No, you are not a racist, you felt fine posting in threads by whites that denigrated blacks, but when blacks started to fight back, suddenly why must we make everything about race in a section where race is supposed to be discussed.

Of course you will deny these things and that's doesn't bother me for in the end I am not the one you must answer to.

I dont diss you because you are black, i despise your arrogant attitude, you are the one who thinks you are superior to whites. When did i call someone an apologist? Unless a white person apologizes for something whites did to blacks before our time, i would have no issue with it and again it is not racist. Disagreeing with you is not racist, where did i agree with whites denegrating blacks? Liar, you are really pathetic

I have never said was superior to anyone. I have spoken truth. You can't handle he truth. You are where you at because of things done before our time. But that's how dumb you are. Things that happened before your time is why you barbeque on July 4th every year. So you don't get to ignore it because it shows that you are where you are today as result of evil included in the same past you celebrate on the fourth of July.

You have not endured for one day in your life anything me and the other blacks here have during our lifetimes. The least of my concerns is some white person telling me they don't like me because I'm black. But if that happens to you that's a major case. I've been denied jobs, promotions, harassed by cops and accused of crimes. I never have had a criminal record. Because of the police harassment I have endured that still happens even now in my advanced age, I do not leave my house after dark. During my years of work I have received those funny phone calls where I got called racial slurs, my life threatened, letters with pictures of blacks hanging, more threats, pictures of monkeys and apes all because I was opposing white racism. One black here has described where he had to watch his parents get shit and piss thrown on them by whites. That's racism Molly and until you experience these things you haven't experienced racism. You can argue till hell freezes over about what you think I don't know about what you or whites haven't experienced but if you had experienced any of these things, you would not hold the positions you do today.

Everyone is where they are today because of the past. I dont deny anything that happened in the past, i dont dwell on it either. What is it you are expecting from us collectively? I certainly am not dumb and for you to keep calling me that shows you think you are superior

You are dumb. Me saying that doesn't imply that I am superior to white people. Until past damages are fixed, we are going to talk about what those damages have caused. We expect that whites like you stop making excuses and work to erase the racism in your communities.

"Until past damages are fixed". Specifically what "past damages" have been left unfixed?

I don't notice anyone "making excuses", hon. That would imply that we think we NEED to excuse ourselves to you, and you are who, exactly, that we give a damn about?

Hate to break it to you, Sparkles, but there is no racism in my life for which I bear any responsibility, and I personally will not be accepting delivery on the load of faked-up "white guilt" you're trying to dump.

That really is the thread winner.

 

[Cecilie1200]

And the answer is:
Publicly speak out about how they feel without fear of reprisals.

African Americans can't be called racist more racist than whites because we don't have the ability to deny anyone.

But come back to me when black people begin lynching, raping, oppressing, exploiting, shooting, jailing, whipping, maiming, torturing, evangelizing, robbing, stereotyping, bullying, bombing, segregating, building highways and thruways to dislocate and dismantle businesses, communities and neighborhoods; creating sun-down towns, experimenting on, discriminating against, prohibiting, murdering, holding back and controlling in every imaginable way, hating white ppl en mass via de jure and de facto racism for hundreds of years, then and only then can calling black people racists make sense.

But let's look at this "We whites can't speak out about how they feel without fear of reprisals"

So what do you want to say ?

You want to shout from the roof tops that "You hate n.i.g.g.e.r.s" ? You have a system that tells us that everyday.

Next

So what do what do you want to say about black people that you can't without fear of reprisals ?

You want insult black people verbally face to face ?

Well there are gonna be reprisals and could end with you getting your ass kicked or even worse.

That you won’t be able to understand this simple point is nothing so much as your own sense of entitlement. Whites are not used to anyone telling them that they can’t do something and you take offense when your freedom to offend is constrained.

Plus how you or anyone could believe you can't critique black people when we live in a global culture where critique of black people is a daily, hourly, minute-by-minute pastime is beyond me.

You have Donald Trump in the big house and white people still complain ? A man who is gonna be the most pro-white president in a long time.

And you still complain ?

The fact is if you are a white person living in the most European nations or in the US you experience less censorship than any other demographic on this planet. You have easier access to more resources including paper, pens, computers and dictaphones. Not only do you have more ability to access the internet to publish online. You have n*ggermania, shitskin, chimpout and chimpmania websites where you can talk shit about black people all day.

White people also have the world's strongest publishing industry statistically supporting them more than any other group where you read books like the Bell Curve which tries to prove how stupid black people are.

Nobody is less prevented from writing whatever they want to than whites. White supremacist are allowed to run a muck on here, run a muck on twitter, run a muck on facebook, run a muck reddit, run a muck on 4chan.

So once again what do what do you want to say about black people that you can't without fear of reprisals ?

This is Part 9 of THIS IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE SAID. You will find the other parts of this in posts 1445, 1448, 1460 1477, 1488,1505, 1516, and 1532. I'm just having to respond to a different poster.

1) In America, blacks have been found guilty of raping, oppressing, exploiting, shooting, jailing, whipping, maiming, torturing, evangelizing, robbing, stereotyping, bullying, and segregating - even when they get a free pass. To the rest of your complaints, I'd have to do a bit of research in order to respond

2) According to the Washington Times:

"Is Jamie Foxx a racist? The actor recently hosted “Saturday Night Live,” delivering a rant that was supposed to be funny. It wasn’t. In fact, had a white person delivered the same monologue but simply exchanged the word “white” for “black,” his career would be over. The hypocrisy and double standard are egregious. They must stop. Black bigotry should no longer be condoned, let alone celebrated."

KUHNER: Jamie Foxx and the rise of black bigotry

3) EVERYTHING that I've said on this board, I'm willing to say it to anyone's face. I once knew a guy that had a mouth like you. He had clout though. He was Martin Luther King, Jr.s right hand man. He had a tv show and I ended up debating him face to face. His name was Hosea Williams. When that discussion ended, the show was NOT renewed for another season... and everything I wanted to say at that time was said. I keep repeating this son. You can't call people out in open forum. If you want to make a challenge; do it in a PM

4) Personally, I don't have the capacity to hate anyone. God's law supersedes ALL the other laws. But, I have been admonished to "Debate thy cause with thy neighbour himself; and discover not a secret to another:" Proverbs 25 : 9

Black people make a lot of false statements, but they don't want us to remind them of how dishonest they are and how wrong they are. No black person ever lost their Hollywood gig nor their sports position for saying things against whites, but they have said things...

5) Donald Trump is not a friend to the white people. He has settled for National Socialist solutions; he has preached a doctrine of intolerance for undocumented foreigners while employing them; he supports an agenda that, over time, will be very costly to the whites in terms of their Liberty and Freedom; Trump has no regard for unalienable Rights.

IF you were wise, you would celebrate Trump. His actions have made the liberals more determined to win than under any president in history. Democrats will retake the Senate - maybe the House and Trump's policies are deliberately designed to fail. So YOU should be happy.

As a side note, I should not have to go off into the Twilight Zone among kooks just to tell you that black people can and are just as racist as whites... but moreso, because, as the Washington Times article implied, black people are NOT held accountable in the mainstream for their racist attitudes.

Blacks have not been as racist as whites. That's the problem with your opinion.

That is your opinion. It is not, however, a fact.

Then take your argument to an all black forum. I've done all of what you have done and more. I am here in a forum of whites expressing my opposition to white racism. Why would you be s scared of an ambush if your views are what is needed to be heard. I'm not asking you to do anything I'm not dig but you are scared to do what I suggest. You came in here talking that Billy Jack bullshit and I am standing up with you man up and busting your ass at every turn. I'm and the he blacks here are outnumbered here 10 to 1 and we keep on whupping ass. Seems to me you are the one who can't handle the truth and think the odds won't favor you unless the odds at in YOUR favor.

There ain't no klan with a tan grand cyclops, there is only the pale skinned KKK who believes America is New Jerusalem and made to be a whites only nation.

Nobody ambushes you. If is the other way around. Your mindthought seems to lean toward violence. What an angry little man, pity.

I'm not the one who said anything about an ambush. Learn to read. I pity you because you are dumb. .For example when a white person tries to diss a black person for being angry, this is saying that you have no right to be angry about what we do to you because we are superior to you. And you are too dumb to see how racist that really is.

So while you move along in classic valley girl fashion at age 60 something while ignoring all the racism posted here in these forums while telling us how its all in the past, don't be as dumb to think we have no right to be angry about the racism we still see .going on.

Because Humone has posted 4 essays justifying white supremacy and instead of criticizing him for that, you are here talking stupid about how I am rhe racist. But you are not a racist, you just don't say anything to white racists and you jump all over blacks calling them racists for pointing out white racism. No you are not a racist, you just felt fine contributing to racist threads by whites but when a black person says we should have a conversation about race suddenly why should we talk abut race. Oh no you aren't a racist but when another white woman decided to agree with blacks you called her a black apologist. No, you are not a racist, you felt fine posting in threads by whites that denigrated blacks, but when blacks started to fight back, suddenly why must we make everything about race in a section where race is supposed to be discussed.

Of course you will deny these things and that's doesn't bother me for in the end I am not the one you must answer to.

I dont diss you because you are black, i despise your arrogant attitude, you are the one who thinks you are superior to whites. When did i call someone an apologist? Unless a white person apologizes for something whites did to blacks before our time, i would have no issue with it and again it is not racist. Disagreeing with you is not racist, where did i agree with whites denegrating blacks? Liar, you are really pathetic

MizMolly, You have my respect for standing up for what truthful. I wanted to end my rant of what needs to be said by interjecting myself into your conversation with IM2.

This is Part 10 of THIS IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE SAID. You will find the other parts of this in posts 1445, 1448, 1460 1477, 1488,1505, 1516,1532, and 1535.

In addressing you, IM2 said:

"You have not endured for one day in your life anything me and the other blacks here have during our lifetimes. The least of my concerns is some white person telling me they don't like me because I'm black. But if that happens to you that's a major case. I've been denied jobs, promotions, harassed by cops and accused of crimes. I never have had a criminal record. Because of the police harassment I have endured that still happens even now in my advanced age, I do not leave my house after dark. During my years of work I have received those funny phone calls where I got called racial slurs, my life threatened, letters with pictures of blacks hanging, more threats, pictures of monkeys and apes all because I was opposing white racism. One black here has described where he had to watch his parents get shit and piss thrown on them by whites. That's racism Molly and until you experience these things you haven't experienced racism. You can argue till hell freezes over about what you think I don't know about what you or whites haven't experienced but if you had experienced any of these things, you would not hold the positions you do today."

IM2's problem is he cannot B.S. me and tell me his life is worse than anyone else or that he experienced things the rest of the people haven't.

1) Whites HAVE been the victims of racism. This was pointed out in my earlier posts so check them for proof

2) One time I was handcuffed by the cops. They stretched my arms high over my head and cuffed me across the a bar, proceeded to place a phone book over my ribs while taking a billy stick and beating me. I was hurting for weeks, but it didn't leave a mark on me. Yeah, I can't rack that up to racism per se because one cop was white and one was black... it die have a racial component though.

In a not so famous case, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation planned to kick down my door, kill me and claim I resisted arrest. Fortunately, a news reporter got wind of it and was able to report on it before it could take place

3) I was laid off my first full time job due to racial quotas within a union; I was denied a promotion based on race when I was in the insurance industry

4) Since I've been on this board, my computer has been hacked; someone has put my personal information out publicly; someone got on professional sites and even gave me a big listing as a Georgia Bureau of Investigation Agent. I reported that one, but the GBI didn't care, so I left it. Somebody might actually believe it and not screw with me. Someone from this board killed the family cat by throwing it across a tree limb with a rope around its neck. They even shot through my kitchen window while I was at home... the perpetrator is a poster on this board

5) I received a lot of hate mail and threatening phone calls over the years.

The point is, IM2 will tell you all these horror stories about himself and chalk it all up to racism. But, sometimes his trials and tribulations may not have been related to his race at all, but rather by his attitude and the trash he talks. Black people have this belief that they are the only ones who had it rough in life. I can promise you they would never trade their lives for the one I lived. And there are many other people out there with horror stories of their lives that is just as bad. And, FWIW, my record is just clean as IM2's is. I've been a foster parent - which requires all manner of background checks.

6) While the race extremists from the left are arguing with me, I want to close with something important:

When I tell these racial extremists that America was founded by people who escaped the tyranny of King George and they intended for this to be a white country, the black extremists find fault with me for telling you the truth. But, what is telling and probably the most important part: they harp on other white countries and imply that we should go there to have a homeland. In reality, this is no different than a white supremacist telling them to jump on a boat and go to Africa.

Black extremists are more racist than the white ones because they have Hollywood fighting for them AND they are savvy enough to avoid being too blunt. They have become masters at using tact and wording their complaints in a manner where they are always innocent and the whites must pay.

I get the distinct feeling that they won't be satisfied until the last shovel dirt is thrown over the grave of the last white person on this planet. Despite what they say, the reality of my experiences are no less than anything I have experienced. BTW, I'll leave you with an incident that happened in my neighborhood:

Video shows woman shooting at invaders during Gwinnett home invasion

Despite what IM2 may claim, there are two sides to every story and he holds no monopoly of having been done wrong in the past. In my view, some people do not want a peaceful resolution. If they reject that and don't want civil conversations, we must be prepared for the worst. And, without giving you my personal feelings, that is the way it is.

We can't change other posters' minds, they are programmed by their parents since birth to hate us. Not all black people, just the ones who hate us for being white. Yes, they have suffered indignities, no, it isnt my fault now nor is it my responsibility. This thread has run it course. Mostly bullshit but that's usually what we find on the Race and Racism threads.

I'm not trying to convince them not to hate me; that would pre-suppose that I give a shit.

I'm just communicating to them that I don't give a shit, and no amount of sniveling and faux-rage on their part is going to make me do so.

I'm over it. America is rapidly getting over it. And they are much closer to the ash-heap of history than they realize.

 

[Cecilie1200]

No reason it shouldn't..my only vice is fast cars..

May you continue to put the truth out there and be blessed as well.

So you do support Reparations......good to know.

Obviously, the U.S. Government does as well. They have paid reparations to Native Americans, the Japanese and the jews affected by the Holocaust.

The problem with that is all of the above can show damages.
Blacks cannot.
Frankly, many who had grandparents who were slaves are already dead. And just because your great grandparents had a rough time doesn't mean you deserve financial compensation for it.

Say that to the Native Americans you pay each year for things done long after their grandparents have died. You paid Jews for what Germans did to them.

Your argument has no merit.

Native Americans were robbed of their lands and put on reservations.
And what makes you think we paid Jews for what the Nazis did to them?

Not to mention that we've hardly done the Amerinds any favors re: the reservation system.

 

[Cecilie1200]

This is Part 9 of THIS IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE SAID. You will find the other parts of this in posts 1445, 1448, 1460 1477, 1488,1505, 1516, and 1532. I'm just having to respond to a different poster.

1) In America, blacks have been found guilty of raping, oppressing, exploiting, shooting, jailing, whipping, maiming, torturing, evangelizing, robbing, stereotyping, bullying, and segregating - even when they get a free pass. To the rest of your complaints, I'd have to do a bit of research in order to respond

2) According to the Washington Times:

"Is Jamie Foxx a racist? The actor recently hosted “Saturday Night Live,” delivering a rant that was supposed to be funny. It wasn’t. In fact, had a white person delivered the same monologue but simply exchanged the word “white” for “black,” his career would be over. The hypocrisy and double standard are egregious. They must stop. Black bigotry should no longer be condoned, let alone celebrated."

KUHNER: Jamie Foxx and the rise of black bigotry

3) EVERYTHING that I've said on this board, I'm willing to say it to anyone's face. I once knew a guy that had a mouth like you. He had clout though. He was Martin Luther King, Jr.s right hand man. He had a tv show and I ended up debating him face to face. His name was Hosea Williams. When that discussion ended, the show was NOT renewed for another season... and everything I wanted to say at that time was said. I keep repeating this son. You can't call people out in open forum. If you want to make a challenge; do it in a PM

4) Personally, I don't have the capacity to hate anyone. God's law supersedes ALL the other laws. But, I have been admonished to "Debate thy cause with thy neighbour himself; and discover not a secret to another:" Proverbs 25 : 9

Black people make a lot of false statements, but they don't want us to remind them of how dishonest they are and how wrong they are. No black person ever lost their Hollywood gig nor their sports position for saying things against whites, but they have said things...

5) Donald Trump is not a friend to the white people. He has settled for National Socialist solutions; he has preached a doctrine of intolerance for undocumented foreigners while employing them; he supports an agenda that, over time, will be very costly to the whites in terms of their Liberty and Freedom; Trump has no regard for unalienable Rights.

IF you were wise, you would celebrate Trump. His actions have made the liberals more determined to win than under any president in history. Democrats will retake the Senate - maybe the House and Trump's policies are deliberately designed to fail. So YOU should be happy.

As a side note, I should not have to go off into the Twilight Zone among kooks just to tell you that black people can and are just as racist as whites... but moreso, because, as the Washington Times article implied, black people are NOT held accountable in the mainstream for their racist attitudes.

Blacks have not been as racist as whites. That's the problem with your opinion.

That is your opinion. It is not, however, a fact.

I'm not the one who said anything about an ambush. Learn to read. I pity you because you are dumb. .For example when a white person tries to diss a black person for being angry, this is saying that you have no right to be angry about what we do to you because we are superior to you. And you are too dumb to see how racist that really is.

So while you move along in classic valley girl fashion at age 60 something while ignoring all the racism posted here in these forums while telling us how its all in the past, don't be as dumb to think we have no right to be angry about the racism we still see .going on.

Because Humone has posted 4 essays justifying white supremacy and instead of criticizing him for that, you are here talking stupid about how I am rhe racist. But you are not a racist, you just don't say anything to white racists and you jump all over blacks calling them racists for pointing out white racism. No you are not a racist, you just felt fine contributing to racist threads by whites but when a black person says we should have a conversation about race suddenly why should we talk abut race. Oh no you aren't a racist but when another white woman decided to agree with blacks you called her a black apologist. No, you are not a racist, you felt fine posting in threads by whites that denigrated blacks, but when blacks started to fight back, suddenly why must we make everything about race in a section where race is supposed to be discussed.

Of course you will deny these things and that's doesn't bother me for in the end I am not the one you must answer to.

I dont diss you because you are black, i despise your arrogant attitude, you are the one who thinks you are superior to whites. When did i call someone an apologist? Unless a white person apologizes for something whites did to blacks before our time, i would have no issue with it and again it is not racist. Disagreeing with you is not racist, where did i agree with whites denegrating blacks? Liar, you are really pathetic

MizMolly, You have my respect for standing up for what truthful. I wanted to end my rant of what needs to be said by interjecting myself into your conversation with IM2.

This is Part 10 of THIS IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE SAID. You will find the other parts of this in posts 1445, 1448, 1460 1477, 1488,1505, 1516,1532, and 1535.

In addressing you, IM2 said:

"You have not endured for one day in your life anything me and the other blacks here have during our lifetimes. The least of my concerns is some white person telling me they don't like me because I'm black. But if that happens to you that's a major case. I've been denied jobs, promotions, harassed by cops and accused of crimes. I never have had a criminal record. Because of the police harassment I have endured that still happens even now in my advanced age, I do not leave my house after dark. During my years of work I have received those funny phone calls where I got called racial slurs, my life threatened, letters with pictures of blacks hanging, more threats, pictures of monkeys and apes all because I was opposing white racism. One black here has described where he had to watch his parents get shit and piss thrown on them by whites. That's racism Molly and until you experience these things you haven't experienced racism. You can argue till hell freezes over about what you think I don't know about what you or whites haven't experienced but if you had experienced any of these things, you would not hold the positions you do today."

IM2's problem is he cannot B.S. me and tell me his life is worse than anyone else or that he experienced things the rest of the people haven't.

1) Whites HAVE been the victims of racism. This was pointed out in my earlier posts so check them for proof

2) One time I was handcuffed by the cops. They stretched my arms high over my head and cuffed me across the a bar, proceeded to place a phone book over my ribs while taking a billy stick and beating me. I was hurting for weeks, but it didn't leave a mark on me. Yeah, I can't rack that up to racism per se because one cop was white and one was black... it die have a racial component though.

In a not so famous case, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation planned to kick down my door, kill me and claim I resisted arrest. Fortunately, a news reporter got wind of it and was able to report on it before it could take place

3) I was laid off my first full time job due to racial quotas within a union; I was denied a promotion based on race when I was in the insurance industry

4) Since I've been on this board, my computer has been hacked; someone has put my personal information out publicly; someone got on professional sites and even gave me a big listing as a Georgia Bureau of Investigation Agent. I reported that one, but the GBI didn't care, so I left it. Somebody might actually believe it and not screw with me. Someone from this board killed the family cat by throwing it across a tree limb with a rope around its neck. They even shot through my kitchen window while I was at home... the perpetrator is a poster on this board

5) I received a lot of hate mail and threatening phone calls over the years.

The point is, IM2 will tell you all these horror stories about himself and chalk it all up to racism. But, sometimes his trials and tribulations may not have been related to his race at all, but rather by his attitude and the trash he talks. Black people have this belief that they are the only ones who had it rough in life. I can promise you they would never trade their lives for the one I lived. And there are many other people out there with horror stories of their lives that is just as bad. And, FWIW, my record is just clean as IM2's is. I've been a foster parent - which requires all manner of background checks.

6) While the race extremists from the left are arguing with me, I want to close with something important:

When I tell these racial extremists that America was founded by people who escaped the tyranny of King George and they intended for this to be a white country, the black extremists find fault with me for telling you the truth. But, what is telling and probably the most important part: they harp on other white countries and imply that we should go there to have a homeland. In reality, this is no different than a white supremacist telling them to jump on a boat and go to Africa.

Black extremists are more racist than the white ones because they have Hollywood fighting for them AND they are savvy enough to avoid being too blunt. They have become masters at using tact and wording their complaints in a manner where they are always innocent and the whites must pay.

I get the distinct feeling that they won't be satisfied until the last shovel dirt is thrown over the grave of the last white person on this planet. Despite what they say, the reality of my experiences are no less than anything I have experienced. BTW, I'll leave you with an incident that happened in my neighborhood:

Video shows woman shooting at invaders during Gwinnett home invasion

Despite what IM2 may claim, there are two sides to every story and he holds no monopoly of having been done wrong in the past. In my view, some people do not want a peaceful resolution. If they reject that and don't want civil conversations, we must be prepared for the worst. And, without giving you my personal feelings, that is the way it is.

We can't change other posters' minds, they are programmed by their parents since birth to hate us. Not all black people, just the ones who hate us for being white. Yes, they have suffered indignities, no, it isnt my fault now nor is it my responsibility. This thread has run it course. Mostly bullshit but that's usually what we find on the Race and Racism threads.

I agree except for one small thing.

Many blacks have been programmed, Pavlovian style, to become professional victims. Most people, however, pick themselves up and move on.

Japanese were put into camps during World War II. The current generation has risen above those wartime indignities. We're now past the half century point with people having to sit on the back of the bus. These guys that showed up every day while I neglected my regular work to let them know a little about the real world spend way too much time reading liberal propaganda and coming up with talking points.

IM2, however, went above and beyond what is acceptable. His pity me, I'm a victim mentality coupled with his lies makes him the kind of guy that prevents civil conversations from being possible. I'm not getting into the back and forth of did too, did not kind of arguing.

After this thread, I'm having to look at black people I've known for years and hoping that deep down inside they don't believe half the B.S. that the black extremists spew here.

What lies? Japanese go reparations.

You can't tell me shit about real life. You talk bout a half century removed from overt racism, but we are in here reading pages of racist crap from whites like you very day. You guys have jobs, some of you own businesses. YOU are damaging the minds of young blacks with your lies as a foster parent. Despite the racism we read here every day we are just supposed to ignore all this stated racism and expect that outside of these forums you guys aren't denying people of color opportunities.

The Japanese got reparation for WHAT, exactly?

"Pages of racist crap from whites like you" = you're not accepting the guilt I want to lay on you; how dare you?!

 

[Cecilie1200]

So you do support Reparations......good to know.

Obviously, the U.S. Government does as well. They have paid reparations to Native Americans, the Japanese and the jews affected by the Holocaust.

The problem with that is all of the above can show damages.
Blacks cannot.
Frankly, many who had grandparents who were slaves are already dead. And just because your great grandparents had a rough time doesn't mean you deserve financial compensation for it.

Say that to the Native Americans you pay each year for things done long after their grandparents have died. You paid Jews for what Germans did to them.

Your argument has no merit.

Native Americans were robbed of their lands and put on reservations.
And what makes you think we paid Jews for what the Nazis did to them?

Because that's what America did.

You can't explain what happened to blacks now ca ya. And don't try the Africans selling each other line. Consider this a fair warning

Your argument has no merit.

You want an explanation for "what happened to blacks"? Humans suck. They treat each other like shit every chance they get.

There. Now maybe you can move the fuck on and stop feeling abused because people you never met were mistreated a century before you were born by other people you also never met.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I agree except for one small thing.

Many blacks have been programmed, Pavlovian style, to become professional victims. Most people, however, pick themselves up and move on.

Japanese were put into camps during World War II. The current generation has risen above those wartime indignities. We're now past the half century point with people having to sit on the back of the bus. These guys that showed up every day while I neglected my regular work to let them know a little about the real world spend way too much time reading liberal propaganda and coming up with talking points.

IM2, however, went above and beyond what is acceptable. His pity me, I'm a victim mentality coupled with his lies makes him the kind of guy that prevents civil conversations from being possible. I'm not getting into the back and forth of did too, did not kind of arguing.

After this thread, I'm having to look at black people I've known for years and hoping that deep down inside they don't believe half the B.S. that the black extremists spew here.

What lies? Japanese got reparations.

You can't tell me shit about real life. You talk bout a half century removed from overt racism, but we are in here reading pages of racist crap from whites like you very day. You guys have jobs, some of you own businesses. YOU are damaging the minds of young blacks with your lies as a foster parent. Despite the racism we read here every day we are just supposed to ignore all this stated racism and expect that outside of these forums you guys aren't denying people of color opportunities.

There you go again lying. When the first sentence you post is an outright LIE, I stop reading. You're going to have to get better at what you do.

I said America was founded by white people as a Christian nation and citizenship limited to white people.

I did not lie. Japanese did get reparations. And really, the white racist ploy of using Asians in a racial discussion between whites and blacks by whites to try invalidating the reality of white racism against blacks is old. Asians don't like it but whites like you don't think you have to listen to them either. And I said America was founded on racism. Your second sentence supports this.

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Well I say that Adam was born in about 5004 B.C. I didn't lie about that. My second sentence? You mean "Most people, however, pick themselves up and move on."

Where, on the Internet, is an Asian living his life to bitch about me and claim I own him / her money every single day? Direct me to this person or I will tell you that you are a PROVEN LIAR.

You paid the japanese. When whites here stop living every day bitching about us let me know.

Whites owe us money. Lots of it. And we ain't shutting up about it.

Until it's paid

One can only assume you're talking about reparations for Japanese internment, which was paid to the ACTUAL JAPANESE WHO WERE INTERNED. Or their next of kin, if they didn't survive it.

Whites don't owe you jack shit, unless you can prove that YOU were actually held as a slave, or that one of your immediate relatives was.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I get the distinct feng that they won't be satisfied until the last shovel dirt is thrown over the grave of the list white person on this planet.

Don't worry if we had a black hospital. We would not use whites as guinea pigs in our hospitals. The way whites use blacks as guinea pigs in their hospitals.

We would not fight harder to save a black life in our hospitals. The way whites fight harder to save a white life in there hospitals.

We would under invest your areas. The way whites under invest our areas.

We would not rip up your resumes. The way whites rip up our resumes.

Simply put. Black people could never treat white people. The way white people have treated blacks.

God just didn't make us that way. He just didn't give us that heart.

Many blacks have been programmed, Pavlovian style, to become professional victims. Most people, however, pick themselves up and move on.

If your a black. You are a victim of white supremacy.

To tell my son that if he tries hard enough, he'll be OK, is nice, but unless I warn about the obstacles in his path I'm I'll suiting him for the real world.

Japanese were put into camps during World War II. The current generation has risen above those wartime indignities. We're now past the half century point with people having to sit on the back of the bus. These guys that showed up every day while I neglected my regular work to let them know a little about the real world spend way too much time reading liberal propaganda and coming up with talking points.

And what did the white supremacists do to Japan in WW2 when they weren't the good gooks they always claim they are ?

Trueman nuked them back into the stone age with consecutive bombs in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, killing around half mill at once and many more in the fallout.

So Japan lost thewar and was de-militarized by the Anglo-U.S. government.

Japan is NOT a sovereign nation, it is a COLONY of the U.S

That’s why Japan is one of the only (or the only) “super power” that doesn’t have any nuclear weapons (and It won’t be allowed to have any).

If you look at the nations where possession of nuclear weapons is a “problem” for the U.S. or Israel or NATO, they are always NON-WHITE nations.

North Korea anyone ?

And that’s why Japan cannot force the U.S. to remove its military bases even though it has begged and pleaded many times over the years to ASK (not tell) the U.S. to remove them and the U.S. has the power to refuse to do it.

Japan can’t build anything — even a convenience store — in the U.S. without permission from the government so how can they build or even expand a military presence in Japan without the white supremacists permission?

Because Japan is not just a U.S. colony it is a non-white nation under the system of white supremacy.

IM2, however, went above and beyond what is acceptable. His pity me, I'm a victim mentality.

Try reading IM2 words. Instead of trying to read his mind.

Frankly I am not in the business of writing sob stories to appeal to the pity of whites.

As I have said many times. White supremacists (and many whites in general) have a heart of stone when it comes to black people.

I talk about racism for my own understanding.

No, you misrepresent everybody that don't agree with you and you try to defend a liar that wouldn't know the truth if it bit him in the ass.

Your take on history is a little less informed that IM2's so you sound like you may have graduated... third grade?

If you have a case, litigate it in court. But, unless a white person is deaf, dumb, blind, and stupid you said it all with 'Simply put. Black people could never treat white people. The way white people have treated blacks.'

So I will make sure I don't do good things for black people. You deny that whites did. And you claim a difference that is based upon race - clearly and unequivocally forever identifying yourself as a racist.

No, he spoke truth to you and you can't accept it. Essen said nothing racist. You are the liar here.

"He spoke truth" = I really like what he said.

"He said nothing racist" = I approve of hatred spewed at other people.

You are the liar here; you're just lying to yourself.

 

[Cecilie1200]

We can't change other posters' minds, they are programmed by their parents since birth to hate us. Not all black people, just the ones who hate us for being white. Yes, they have suffered indignities, no, it isnt my fault now nor is it my responsibility. This thread has run it course. Mostly bullshit but that's usually what we find on the Race and Racism threads.

And this s why I say this person is dumb. Who hates whites just because they are white? How are we programmed to hate whites by our parents?

The Teflon Theory of American History says that anything that took place over 30 years ago is Ancient History. It has Absolutely No Effect on the present. Or not much. Unless it was something good like the light bulb or the Declaration of Independence. Therefore those who make a big deal of the bad stuff in the past, like slavery, are Living in the Past and need to Get Over It.

For example:

Jim Crow laws were overturned by the civil rights movement in the 1950s and 1960s. Therefore according to Teflon Theory the Jim Crow period is now Ancient History. It has Absolutely No Effect on how White Americans alive today think and act. None whatsoever. Or not much. So racism is pretty much dead.

Instead of Jim Crow’s effect slowly weakening over time like you would expect, Teflon Theory would have you suppose that it just disappeared like magic one afternoon sometime in the late 1960s. Even though many White Americans alive now were alive back in Jim Crow times. Even though many others were brought up and shaped by those who were alive back then: parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, teachers, writers, film directors, television producers, news editors and so on.

Few sit on a mountain top to come up with their beliefs all on their own. Instead most people pretty much go along with what everyone else already believes with maybe a few twists here and there. Such beliefs come from the past.

So then why is Teflon Theory believed?

• Because of how American history is taught:
  • American history is taught as dates and people and facts that have little to do with each other. Sometimes the Effects of the the Civil War or Industrialization are studied, for example, but not so for the evil stuff – like how slavery and genocide led to present-day White American wealth, power and racism.
  • American history as taught rarely comes up to the present day. History becomes something in the past, in a book, not something we live in right now.
• Because of the needs of White American self-image:
  • White Americans want to think they are Basically Good and their society is Basically Just. Without Teflon Theory that becomes laughable since it flies in the face of history, common sense and human nature.
  • White Americans avoid honestly facing up to their past because deep down they know it is ugly. Teflon Theory acts as a guard against having to take it seriously.
• Because middle-class whites are protected from the ugly present:
  • Those who live in Apple-pie America rarely see first-hand the injustice that their comfortable lives are built on. And what injustice they do see on occasion, like black ghettos or wars on television fought overseas in their name, they have already learned to not see as injustice. But being protected from the ugly present makes the ugly past seem like another world, like it truly is ancient history with no bearing on the present.

Your biggest problem is blaming white people for injustices of the past and thinking all whites lived on streets of gold and had a silver spoon in their mouth as if they profited off you. And every time you post specifics, it is always people that come from old money - the super rich where money is handed down from generation to generation.

The last time I heard of reparations was a case against a tobacco company. Your side lost. I'm not a tobacco company; I never profited off you in any way, shape, fashion, or form.

If you think I owe you a plug nickel, SUE ME. QUITYERBITCHING. Sue or STFU.

Your biggest problem is in your refusal to understand that damages were created by past laws and policies that have not been addressed. Things did not just end and poof! everything is fixed. I d no think all whites lived on streets paved with gold. But I do know that the black community I grew up in had dirt streets until the 1970's, while 2 blocks north where the whites lived in the same community, most of them low to middle income people, they had paved streets with sidewalks. They benefitted from racism.

You see humone we've only been able to compete for 53 years. Whites like you apparently don't even know white history in this country. You got here in 1607. By 1660, 53 years later, you were still a colony dependent on Britain for handouts. So just admit you benefitted from white racism and STFU

What hypocrisy! You are clueless. I didn't have running water where I lived until the 1980s. Your denial that not all whites benefited off you is the reason you will always be a liar.

Sure you didn't. What's next, if I say I was lynched by 5 whites you got lynched by 6 blacks? You're a liar.

No, if you say you got lynched by 5 whites, what's next is that we call you a delusional lunatic and have you committed.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I get the distinct feng that they won't be satisfied until the last shovel dirt is thrown over the grave of the list white person on this planet.

Don't worry if we had a black hospital. We would not use whites as guinea pigs in our hospitals. The way whites use blacks as guinea pigs in their hospitals.

We would not fight harder to save a black life in our hospitals. The way whites fight harder to save a white life in there hospitals.

We would under invest your areas. The way whites under invest our areas.

We would not rip up your resumes. The way whites rip up our resumes.

Simply put. Black people could never treat white people. The way white people have treated blacks.

God just didn't make us that way. He just didn't give us that heart.

Many blacks have been programmed, Pavlovian style, to become professional victims. Most people, however, pick themselves up and move on.

If your a black. You are a victim of white supremacy.

To tell my son that if he tries hard enough, he'll be OK, is nice, but unless I warn about the obstacles in his path I'm I'll suiting him for the real world.

Japanese were put into camps during World War II. The current generation has risen above those wartime indignities. We're now past the half century point with people having to sit on the back of the bus. These guys that showed up every day while I neglected my regular work to let them know a little about the real world spend way too much time reading liberal propaganda and coming up with talking points.

And what did the white supremacists do to Japan in WW2 when they weren't the good gooks they always claim they are ?

Trueman nuked them back into the stone age with consecutive bombs in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, killing around half mill at once and many more in the fallout.

So Japan lost thewar and was de-militarized by the Anglo-U.S. government.

Japan is NOT a sovereign nation, it is a COLONY of the U.S

That’s why Japan is one of the only (or the only) “super power” that doesn’t have any nuclear weapons (and It won’t be allowed to have any).

If you look at the nations where possession of nuclear weapons is a “problem” for the U.S. or Israel or NATO, they are always NON-WHITE nations.

North Korea anyone ?

And that’s why Japan cannot force the U.S. to remove its military bases even though it has begged and pleaded many times over the years to ASK (not tell) the U.S. to remove them and the U.S. has the power to refuse to do it.

Japan can’t build anything — even a convenience store — in the U.S. without permission from the government so how can they build or even expand a military presence in Japan without the white supremacists permission?

Because Japan is not just a U.S. colony it is a non-white nation under the system of white supremacy.

IM2, however, went above and beyond what is acceptable. His pity me, I'm a victim mentality.

Try reading IM2 words. Instead of trying to read his mind.

Frankly I am not in the business of writing sob stories to appeal to the pity of whites.

As I have said many times. White supremacists (and many whites in general) have a heart of stone when it comes to black people.

I talk about racism for my own understanding.

Your resume gets ripped up because you arent qualified, for the most part. If not, why are so many black people employed?

Yeah, it's amazing how that "institutional racism" just vanishes when the minority in question is educated, qualified, and experienced.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Many blacks have been programmed, Pavlovian style, to become professional victims. Most people, however, pick themselves up and move on.

So now you're calling us dogs? I'm not required to move on from a damn thing, I have however acquired a new set of skills that allows me to go back and attempt to resolve issues from the past that remain unresolved.

Some would say acquiring new skills and the accompanying licenses that go with that new skill set IS moving forward. The only ones crying about me not specifically not moving on generally are the ones who thought they had gotten away with their violations.

Pretty sure he's calling you a pathologically over-sensitive nutball.

If he's not, I am.

You're not REQUIRED to move on from a damned thing, you're quite right about that. You have every right in the world to waste your life being bitter and angry over imaginary wrongs and abuses, and become a complete failure because you've convinced yourself that "white people" are holding you back, when really, you're doing it to yourself.

If you've acquired useful skills and are in a position to improve your life with them, then Godspeed and I sincerely wish you the best. But I will tell you right now that all the new skills in the world will not help you if you drag a load of noxious emotional baggage along with you.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I did not say everyone was not qualified. For the most part, in my opinion, resumes get tossed because they arent qualified, regardless of race. and true, how many white people have the power to deny you? that is more of a power thing than a racial issue. Money is power. I have worked with blacks and I did not see where they were any less qualified to do the same job as me. I never said discrimination didn't exist. When I had a job to interview potential employees, I tossed more resumes from whites than blacks, they were not qualified. Again, you are like IM2, looking for racism where it doesnt exist, in me.

I am surprised to hear that most of the resumes you receive are from people who don't meet the qualifications. What type of jobs are these?

I recently received an invitation to attend a recruiting event at Amazon entitled 'Power to Fly'. They had a question & answer session after the panel presentation and I was again surprised to find out that several of the panel members had a background similar to mine, in fact two of them came from a Microsoft background and they encouraged me to apply with them after I explained that I had never applied for an Amazon development position because I just figured I didn't qualify because I didn't have the specific qualifications they were seeking. I did however have the general and overall development background experience they said they are looking for. And they are actively creating an environment were women and people of color can thrive. I've never encountered anything like this through my 30 year professional career.

Actually, it's a pretty common thing for the majority of resumes received to be from people who aren't qualified. It's the "worst they can do is say no" approach to job applications.

 

[MikeK]

If by "racist" you mean despising others on the basis of their racial identity alone, I don't think there is any question that most Blacks are far more racist than Whites.

In weighing this question one critically important item that must be considered is the fact that the average White person very rarely gives any thought to the issue of racial identity but most Blacks seem obsessively preoccupied with it.

 

[IM2]

If you were trying to make a point, I fail to see it.

Of course you don't see it. You're white supremacist

Regardless of how one gets their money, if they are rich, they can invest in where they think they will make money.

All saves are equal. White people have no problem making 1 or 2 blk people rich. They can slap any black person down when who they make rich

Ask Bill Cosby

Racism goes far beyond the wallet

Look dude, in all seriousness - when the whites ended slavery

When did whites end slavery ? Racism is slavery. Slavery was just one stage of white supremacy. So when did when ended slavery ?

Unless your silly enough to think that once slavery ended racism just stopped

the blacks had every opportunity to go back to the country of their ancestors / family.

OK. Now how could they have done that ? When the white supremacist were running a muck in Africa and the white supremacist were running a amok in the USA ?

The law is what the law was and your people stayed. The Democrats are the ones that passed the laws you find so offensive, but blacks decided screw it and they voted for Democrats - the party that kept them enslaved.

I don't get into this Democrate - Repubs thing. It's all white supremacy

You can't convince me of the rightness of your cause

And that's the mistake you making is that you are assuming I'm trying to convince you.

I'm not.

Convincing whites to give up the benefits of racism, to give up a false pride in their race, to become outcasts from white society, to face their shame and guilt at benefiting from a racist society all that is way, way, way beyond my powers.

I write about white people and racism for my own understanding.

.For some reason you seem to expect the likes of me and IM2 to write to white supremacist point of view with concern for their tender feelings. As if there are not enough people doing that already.

That are posts are such an affront to you speaks a lot about the privilege white people have, where even a single small instance of contrary opinions are a threat to them. And causes you to erupt like a hilarious volcano.

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Ask the moderators here what they would do to me if I responded to what you called me. And that's fair, how, exactly?

I realize that all slaves are equal. That is why black supremacists always endorse Democrats. They are comfortable with slavery. It's more about the socialism and liberalism that black supremacists endorse. You're comfortable with slavery; it's just that you want everybody else to be just as lazy, worthless and having no work ethic like you.

Bill Cosby is a victim of racism????

If you're writing notes to yourself, keep them in a spiral notebook and don't try quoting me endlessly. Quit feeling sorry for yourself and put some effort into acquiring an education.

IM2 has told us exactly how he feels about whites. He agreed with me on every point when I was being sarcastic with him.

I realize you hate me with every fiber of your being and what I have to say about you - other than you do a lot of projecting, would work better off saying to you in person. That is the only way we wouldn't have any misunderstandings.

Essen spoke truth and still you nor the other white racists here can present ANY law or policy whereby backs created to deny whites of anything.

And show just how dumb you are, slaves worked the whites didn't. Whites were just that lazy. They imported people to do the work they were too lazy to do.

Last you don't know how I feel about whites. You know how I feel about racist whites. So unless you're telling me all whites are racists, then stop pretending I'm blaming all whites for anything when I scald your ass for your racism.

 

[IM2]

If by "racist" you mean despising others on the basis of their racial identity alone, I don't think there is any question that most Blacks are far more racist than Whites.

In weighing this question one critically important item that must be considered is the fact that the average White person very rarely gives any thought to the issue of racial identity but most Blacks seem obsessively preoccupied with it.

Another example of psychosis. there are at least several hundred threads here by whites. WHITES pre occupied with blacks and race. But I don't know why these whites are crying about race being discussed in a section called race and racism.

 

[Cecilie1200]

3 white men dismember 2 young black men

Lynchings have never ceased in the US. Social media, technology is bringing it to the forefront. They executed the two young black men at point blank range, abducted their bodies, took them to a pond where they tied cinderblocks to them so they would sink to the bottom, burned their clothes, and destroyed the evidence

Body of young black man hanging from tree

With both of these the key word is YOUNG. White supremacist don't give a fk about some Dylan Roof going into a church and killing old black ppl. Don't get me wrong that's also fun for them

But what they want and love is killing young black ppl. They LOVE that. They want (what they consider) the thugs. The went the black men who are young and virile and can make babies and who can grow and build. They want the young black men. That's the real prize.

Problem is. Where ever young black men are. We are already heavily policed as it is. Schools. Concerts etc. That's why you'll get more of these waffle house murders.

They love it when Trayvon Martin and Tamir Rice get's killed. They jerk off to Mike Brown and Freddie Gray. That's why they pour thousands into their gofundme accounts. April is always a big month for white supremacists (Hitlers birthday and the month he died)

They will try and pass these off suicides but that's the system of white supremacy.

Actually, I'm pretty sure we're going to "pass them off" as murders, which are apparently being prosecuted, as murders should be.

YOU, on the other hand, are trying to pass them off as the responsibility of a whole bunch of people who not only didn't commit the crimes, they weren't even in the neighborhood at the time.

Too bad for you, Chuckles. I'm not going to be overcome with guilt over these crimes, because I've never dismembered or lynched anyone in my entire life. No mea culpa today.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Native Americans were robbed of their lands and put on reservations.
And what makes you think we paid Jews for what the Nazis did to them?

https://thetempest.co/2016/08/29/so...-saying-black-people-deserve-reparations-too/

So you think Obama paying reparations to Jews for some strange reason provides you precedence for your reparations claims?

No it doesn't.

This wouldn't be the first example of Obama misusing taxpayers money, although it is a good cause.
It does not give him the right to establish a precedence that he had no legal standing in.

Your argument has no merit and it's just that simple .

We found that, if the average incomes of minorities were raised to the average incomes of whites, total U.S. earnings would increase by 12%, representing nearly $1 trillion today. By closing the earnings gap through higher productivity, gross domestic product (GDP) would increase by a comparable percentage, for an increase of $1.9 trillion today. The earnings gain would translate into $180 billion in additional corporate profits, $290 billion in additional federal tax revenues, and a potential reduction in the federal deficit of $350 billion, or 2.3% of GDP.

Source: The Business Case for Racial Equity
Production of this brief was funded by the W. K. Kellogg Foundation. Lead author: Ani Turner, Altarum Institute. Contributors: Dolores Acevedo-Garcia, Brandeis University; Darrell Gaskin, Johns Hopkins University; Thomas LaVeist, Johns Hopkins University; David R. Williams, Harvard University; Laura Segal, Trust for America’s Health; and George Miller, Altarum Institute.

This is what your racism costs America.

Your argument has no merit.
You're talking about earnings when in fact the core issue you are discussing is a new form of welfare, which is just another addition to the deficit.

I'm not debating this with you white ---, I'm telling you. Your argument is a waste of time. It's stupid. Reparations is not welfare, you owe us the money. .

Of course you're telling and not debating. The instant anyone else gets a word in edgewise, you lose. Your only hope is to demand to be the only one talking.

Meanwhile, we still don't owe you shit. Didn't before, don't now, won't ever.

 

[Cecilie1200]

So far your side has bitched and complained about an institution that the whites did not create, but did take the first steps to end. And still, the black extremists are so arrogant they refuse to acknowledge that.

And 99.99% of white people have invented nothing either but they still love to brag about white inventions like they invented them themselves

I'm pretty sure you'd have no problem with whites wanting to claim and take pride in the good things from whites past (inventions made, battles won, rights fought for) but when people like me and others point out the bad things from whites past, all of sudden were "black extremists" and you claim that has nothing to do with them (like slavery, genocide and rights not fought for)

You can't have it both ways.

If inventions are proof of the intelligence of whites then slavery and genocide are proof of the evil of whites.

You can't claim one without the other.

Or if slavery and genocide came about through the workings of human nature under a particular set of circumstances then if anyone else would have done the same thing, then the same goes for inventions too.

They "have invented nothing"? So that means they HAVE invented SOMETHING. Good of you to admit it.

"I'm pretty sure" = I have no idea what you think, but this is what I want to believe so that I can hate and blame you for my shit sandwich of a life. Hold your breath waiting for any of us to accept guilt for what YOU THINK we think.

Thank you so much for wasting time and bandwidth denying us "having it both ways" when none of us actually asked for that. I know I feel much more settled in my mind, knowing that you're not going to give me something I only wanted in your own fevered, bigoted imagination.

Slavery and genocide are proof of the evil of humans. If you bothered to learn ACTUAL history, rather than "We're all victims, poor us" history, you'd know that.

And interestingly enough, the only time the suggestion of black people not being able to produce inventions as well as white people has even been raised is when YOU brought it up.

 

[Cecilie1200]

These white racists in here hollering about black extremists or what they did not own and other excuse makers can kiss my......

First off, there are millions of whites who disagree with your poor pitiful me I'm while and struggle so I have suffered just like blacks victimization garbage. Most of the information I have posted has come from whites. Whites are the ones who coined the term white privilege based in what they know whites experience as compared to what blacks do. Whites created the term white fragility whereby whites get defensive when people of color start talking about their racial experiences, something we see right here in this forum. Whites are the ones who coined the term fake white grievance industry because they know whites do not face discrimination or racism. Whites are the ones saying reverse discrimination doesn't happen. Whites created the term white victimization because they know the racists are crying about something they made up. There are whites who oppose the racists among them like those here, making them a fringe group outside of the mainstream, Why? Because there are whites who do not believe that equal opportunity for others discriminates against whites. Only white racist extremists are the ones saying it does. These racists feel they are entitled to everything. Humone's posts show this. To say that America was made to be a whites only nation tells us he believes whites are entitled to everything here based only on the color of their skin. And so do the rest here who said nothing to condemn Humone but instead decided to arrack us blacks. These people do not speak for all whites. They are racists. All of them.

Your lying and cheap shots do not constitute truth. You have been unable to refute a single sentence I've posted on this board with a verifiable fact.

Regardless of where I stood (notice the past tense now) in the past, you have convinced me that blacks and whites will not be able to work together unless and until someone from your own race repudiates you and what you stand for.

The facts that I've presented are true. For all the filibustering you've done on this board, you have pretended to be all knowing about the history of this country. But, for anyone who has researched and READ the Dred Scott v. Sanford case, they know full well WHY America came into being.

You talk about filibustering? LOL! I've not told one lie.

10 Racist US Supreme Court Rulings

The Supreme Court has issued some fantastic civil rights rulings over the years, but these aren't among them. Here are ten of the most astonishingly racist Supreme Court rulings in American history, in chronological order.

1. Dred Scott v. Sandford (1856)
When a slave petitioned the U.S. Supreme Court for his freedom, the Court ruled against him—also ruling that the Bill of Rights didn't apply to African Americans. If it did, the majority ruling argued, then African Americans would be permitted "the full liberty of speech in public and in private," "to hold public meetings upon political affairs," and "to keep and carry arms wherever they went." In 1856, both the justices in the majority and the white aristocracy they represented found this idea too horrifying to contemplate. In 1868, the Fourteenth Amendment made it law. What a difference a war makes!

10 Racist Supreme Court Rulings in US History

Yep, for anyone who has researched Dred Scott v Sandford understand hat this nation was built on white racism..

Not only me, but every black person here has destroyed you. There are other blacks here, don't see any of them disagreeing with me. And you won't get any repudiating me to support your belief in a whites only nation. Nor will they be upset when say whites have not faced racism. Because they know it;s true

Karen Fratti

Racism against white people doesn't exist in America, and here's why it never will

According to a new poll done by NPR, the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, and the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, most white Americans feel that they are discriminated against because of their race. Which is a little terrifying, since racism against white people doesn’t exist. It’s not a far leap for a privileged group of people to jump from believing that they face discrimination to calling out “reverse racism,” making a real, productive conversation about race in America even more difficult.

It really can’t be said enough: Racism against white people cannot exist in America (unless we go back in time and flip the switch on the European colonization of natives and trans-continental slave trade and make it so that those things and the subsequent years of systemic oppression of people of color never happened). The fact is — and this bears repeating — it’s just not possible for white people to be victims of racism, since white people have all of the power and privilege in systems that they’ve set up over centuries to benefit them. Access to jobs, education, healthcare, and even beauty standards all privilege the white experience, so there’s no real way for white people to face oppression for their race from people of color.

Racism against white people doesn't exist in America, and here's why it never will

I guess she's a black extremist. And so whites do work with us.

"Oh my God, I am such a pathetic victim because bad things happened 150 years ago!"

"I am right because an ignorant leftist agrees with me, and she's white!"