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Your quote Saigon, "... whereas to my mind most liberals understood the pros and cons of universal healthcare very well, "
Yes, that is correct.
End of discussion.
Stop being sleazy and tell me how you came to that conclusion given Obama and Pelosi's statements. Then we can end this discussion.Your quote Saigon, "... whereas to my mind most liberals understood the pros and cons of universal healthcare very well, "
Yes, that is correct.
End of discussion.
Failure is failure supporting obama and his policies have shown and been proven to be in support of failure, and one more time you aren't an American and would like to see America fail. So failure for you would be a good thing.BigReb -
There is a huge difference between not agreeing in a policy, and that policy being a failure. Of course you can consider Obamacare a failure simply because you disagree with its politicial stance, but that makes no more sense than liberals considering it a huge success simply because they voted for the idea.
Realistically, any major change in any healthcare system would take 5 - 10 years to really settle into place, and at this stage I don't think any of us can say whether Obamacare will really work or not work. If much of the legislation is repealed or struck down in courts, we may never know.
Or it may be that in a few years from now we see more clearly what impact there has been on health outcomes. If more people are receiving better care for a cheaper total cost for society, then it will have succeeded. If less people receive poorer care for higher costs, then it will have failed.
Do you want all of your personal information and all of the personal questions to answer before you can see a doctor to be stored in a government super computer? Are you fucking retarded? You are such an idiot that you should just hand over all your rights by giving full guardian ship of you over to the government, because really theres no ddifference in what you are saying and this. Better to just get it overwith. Moron.BigReb -
The fact that I am not American does not mean that I want America to fail. Certainly, the day I accuse half of the American people of being traitors in my sig line is the day I would stop posting on a US message board, put it that way.
I have no interest in America failing, and actually I have every reason to think that universal healthcare is a system that could and should work well in the US. It's not easy converting from any one system to any other system, but I think it's a noble effort, and I very much hope it works for all American people. You included.
As I said you don't understand the concept of failure, or it is what you support for America. it's one or the other.BigReb -
The fact that I am not American does not mean that I want America to fail. Certainly, the day I accuse half of the American people of being traitors in my sig line is the day I would stop posting on a US message board, put it that way.
I have no interest in America failing, and actually I have every reason to think that universal healthcare is a system that could and should work well in the US. It's not easy converting from any one system to any other system, but I think it's a noble effort, and I very much hope it works for all American people. You included.
Meathead -
Nowhere in this thread have I said that liberals are more intelligent. I don't believe that is the case.
What I believe is that there is no link between political beliefs and intelligence.
And yes, I believe that voters on both sides of the political divide had more than enough information on Obamacare to make an informed decision at the ballot box when they elected Obama. Twice.
Do you want all of your personal information and all of the personal questions to answer before you can see a doctor to be stored in a government super computer? Are you fucking retarded? You are such an idiot that you should just hand over all your rights by giving full guardian ship of you over to the government, because really theres no ddifference in what you are saying and this. Better to just get it overwith. Moron.
Saigon is not an American so our laws do not effect Saigon, I've pointed to what position I feel that Saigon has, WANTS AMERICA TO FAIL.Do you want all of your personal information and all of the personal questions to answer before you can see a doctor to be stored in a government super computer? Are you fucking retarded? You are such an idiot that you should just hand over all your rights by giving full guardian ship of you over to the government, because really theres no ddifference in what you are saying and this. Better to just get it overwith. Moron.BigReb -
The fact that I am not American does not mean that I want America to fail. Certainly, the day I accuse half of the American people of being traitors in my sig line is the day I would stop posting on a US message board, put it that way.
I have no interest in America failing, and actually I have every reason to think that universal healthcare is a system that could and should work well in the US. It's not easy converting from any one system to any other system, but I think it's a noble effort, and I very much hope it works for all American people. You included.
There are also those who believe political correctness does not exist."Are conservatives smarter than liberals?"
Judging by the USMB right, no.
There are conservatives here who believe the states have the 'right' to ignore Federal laws, that undocumented immigrants aren't entitled to due process, that those who receive public assistance shouldn't have the right to vote, that abortion is 'murder,' that the First Amendment doesn't apply to Muslims, and there are those on the right who believe the president was born in Kenya.
So clearly conservatives are not smarter than liberals.
“Or is there a reason that some conservatives believe they are intellectually superior?”
The reason is that most on the right are ideologues who blindly adhere to conservative dogma, where this blind adherence to that dogma manifests as arrogance and a false sense of 'superiority.'
And you've already lost.Do you want all of your personal information and all of the personal questions to answer before you can see a doctor to be stored in a government super computer? Are you fucking retarded? You are such an idiot that you should just hand over all your rights by giving full guardian ship of you over to the government, because really theres no ddifference in what you are saying and this. Better to just get it overwith. Moron.
And again, the point of the thread is proven.
"Are conservatives smarter than liberals?"
Judging by the USMB right, no.
There are conservatives here who believe the states have the 'right' to ignore Federal laws, that undocumented immigrants aren't entitled to due process, that those who receive public assistance shouldn't have the right to vote, that abortion is 'murder,' that the First Amendment doesn't apply to Muslims, and there are those on the right who believe the president was born in Kenya.
So clearly conservatives are not smarter than liberals.
“Or is there a reason that some conservatives believe they are intellectually superior?”
The reason is that most on the right are ideologues who blindly adhere to conservative dogma, where this blind adherence to that dogma manifests as arrogance and a false sense of 'superiority.'
BigReb -
The fact that I am not American does not mean that I want America to fail. Certainly, the day I accuse half of the American people of being traitors in my sig line is the day I would stop posting on a US message board, put it that way.
I have no interest in America failing, and actually I have every reason to think that universal healthcare is a system that could and should work well in the US. It's not easy converting from any one system to any other system, but I think it's a noble effort, and I very much hope it works for all American people. You included.
"Are conservatives smarter than liberals?"
Judging by the USMB right, no.
There are conservatives here who believe the states have the 'right' to ignore Federal laws, that undocumented immigrants aren't entitled to due process, that those who receive public assistance shouldn't have the right to vote, that abortion is 'murder,' that the First Amendment doesn't apply to Muslims, and there are those on the right who believe the president was born in Kenya.
So clearly conservatives are not smarter than liberals.
“Or is there a reason that some conservatives believe they are intellectually superior?”
The reason is that most on the right are ideologues who blindly adhere to conservative dogma, where this blind adherence to that dogma manifests as arrogance and a false sense of 'superiority.'
No they're both idiots.Are conservatives smarter than liberals?
"Are conservatives smarter than liberals?"
Judging by the USMB right, no.
There are conservatives here who believe the states have the 'right' to ignore Federal laws, that undocumented immigrants aren't entitled to due process, that those who receive public assistance shouldn't have the right to vote, that abortion is 'murder,' that the First Amendment doesn't apply to Muslims, and there are those on the right who believe the president was born in Kenya.
So clearly conservatives are not smarter than liberals.
“Or is there a reason that some conservatives believe they are intellectually superior?”
The reason is that most on the right are ideologues who blindly adhere to conservative dogma, where this blind adherence to that dogma manifests as arrogance and a false sense of 'superiority.'