Are gag orders constitutional?

[Care4all]

Ok, well then, it should be noted that the loss of travel of someone indicted for a criminal offense, could pose a flight risk, which is why their right to travel could be curtailed...Just as a gag order is usually used to protect tainting of a potential jury.

However, in Donald Trump's case, this gag order by this judge is because SHE doesn't like Trump's rhetoric surrounding this sham of a prosecution...So, IMHO, she is trying everything she can to stack the deck against Trump...Including gaging his right to free speech...

That's FALSE....completely false!

Read the gag order, and the examples given.

This gag order is very very specifically limited....

 

[Harpy Eagle]

It should be noted that the Constitution allows for bail....

and bail is more than just money....Bail is a set of pre-trial restrictions that are imposed on a suspect to ensure that they will not hamper the judicial process. Bail is the conditional release of a defendant with the promise to appear in court when required

 

[j-mac]

Correct. So we both seem to agree that a gag order is constitutional.



This is not about Trump, in fact TN will say mean things to you if you bring up Trump

I never said it was unconstitutional...But, it may be considering that the defendant we are considering is in the running for a Presidential nomination, in an ongoing election...That goes further, that is election tampering...

 

[j-mac]

That's FALSE....completely false!

Read the gag order, and the examples given.

This gag order is very very specifically limited....

So, it's election interference....

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I never said it was unconstitutional...

That is the whole point of the thread, did you not read the OP?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

But, it may be considering that the defendant we are considering is in the running for a Presidential nomination, in an ongoing election...That goes further, that is election tampering...

The defendant, like every other defendant has the right and power to challenge the gag order to a higher court. That they might be running for an elected office is 100% irrelevant.

 

[j-mac]

That is the whole point of the thread, did you not read the OP?

Yes, but as I pointed out, it is more complicated than that...

 

[konradv]

I never said it was unconstitutional...But, it may be considering that the defendant we are considering is in the running for a Presidential nomination, in an ongoing election...That goes further, that is election tampering...

If he was being gagged over his political speech, I’d agree. This, however, is a judicial proceeding and HE’S the one making it political.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Yes, but as I pointed out, it is more complicated than that...

Don't tell me, tell the OP so he can call you a boot licker as well.

 

[j-mac]

If he was being gagged over his political speech, I’d agree. This, however, is a judicial proceeding and HE’S the one making it political.

Oh no...I believe that the timing of these cases are designed exactly to politicize this circus to hamper his ability to run...

 

[j-mac]

Don't tell me, tell the OP so he can call you a boot licker as well.

Well, the law is what the law is, but, I do believe that these cases are all politically timed....

 

[konradv]

Oh no...I believe that the timing of these cases are designed exactly to politicize this circus to hamper his ability to run...

Timing? Trump has been asking why this wasn’t brought three years ago. Well, he was president three years ago and some of the crimes were committed less than three years ago. Every year we have elections somewhere. If we allowed his reasoning, career politicians couldn’t be held accountable until they retired!

 

[TNHarley]

Yet the Constitution allows for bail, which means that it also allows for you to be locked up for the mere act of being charged with a crime, before you are convicted of anything.

True

 

[Care4all]

So, it's election interference....

No it isn't.

Please, for the love of God, read the judge's gag order, don't stay in the dark.... it's a PDF and I don't know how to copy and paste from it....it won't let me????

Ok, I found a way to copy a page....YAY!

Read the Decision Reinstating Trump's Gag Order in DC Criminal Case

A federal judge cited Trump's recent social media posts in an order Sunday night reinstating a partial gag order in the Washington, D.C., criminal case against the former president

themessenger.com

 

[TNHarley]

When you have been arrested for a crime, you relinquish some rights as well TN.
Here Care4all
Post 969

 

[TNHarley]

Yes, but as I pointed out, it is more complicated than that...

How?

 

[TNHarley]

Don't tell me, tell the OP so he can call you a boot licker as well.

He isnt a statist like you, GG. At least not that I have seen.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

He isnt a statist like you, GG. At least not that I have seen.

yet he, just like me, agrees the concept of a gag order is Constitutional.

But, he is a Trumper like you so you cannot be mean to him

 

[TNHarley]

yet he, just like me, agrees the concept of a gag order is Constitutional.

But, he is a Trumper like you so you cannot be mean to him

Fuck off, faggot

 

[TNHarley]

Some of you people have SEVERE TDS. Even the ones that support him.
The obsession with that POS blows my mind.