Are Transgender People, Especially Kids, Really "Bullied?"

[Bob Blaylock]

So how do you propose to toughen kids up for the real world?

By telling them that they are the opposite of their true sex, and giving them drugs, hormones, and surgeries to reinforce that lie.

 

[Curried Goats]

The point is that observable, provable reality is absolutely diametrically opposed to the fucked-up bullshit that you keep trying to sell us.

It isn't. We observe homosexuality not just in humans but in lots of other mammals. If you want to make a claim about objective reality then go ahead and let's hear your best argument.

 

[SamInAZ]

Agree. Two men can't have sexual intercourse.

It's basically just using each other as masturbatory tools.

 

[BS Filter]

It isn't. We observe homosexuality not just in humans but in lots of other mammals. If you want to make a claim about objective reality then go ahead and let's hear your best argument.

Two men cannot have sexual intercourse with each other. Biologically impossible. Same with two women.

 

[Curried Goats]

What is the story behind you calling people "Bingos"? I am genuinely curious. Why "Bingos"?

Bingos is my word for ignorant bigots.

 

[Curried Goats]

Two men cannot have sexual intercourse with each other. Biologically impossible. Same with two women.

They in fact can. I think you mean to say that their sexual coupling won't result in procreation, which no one refutes.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

You can be a married cis man

There is no such thing as a “cis man”. You're a man, or else you're a woman. Your unalterable biology dictates that.

Sane people have no use at all for a bullshit prefix like “cis”, to distinguish reality from a mentally-ill opposite fake reality. Only fucked-up mental cases such as yourself have any use for such Newspeak.

 

[SamInAZ]

Bingos is my word for ignorant bigots.

Well, I give you a point for creativity.

 

[Curried Goats]

There is no such thing as a “cis man”. You're a man, or else you're a woman. Your unalterable biology dictates that.

Sane people have no use at all for a bullshit prefix like “cis”, to distinguish reality from a mentally-ill opposite fake reality. Only fucked-up mental cases such as yourself have any use for such Newspeak.

You're not in a position to dictate terms to decent society from your back water of bigotry.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Those aren't the only forms of bullying lgtbq members face. They also face higher rates of violence and ostracization from family and community members which is arguably more harmful and devastating than bullying from peers or strangers.

Being a fucked-up freak tends to adversely affect one's social standing among sane, decent, normal people.

Who would have guessed?

 

[BS Filter]

They in fact can. I think you mean to say that their sexual coupling won't result in procreation, which no one refutes.

No, what I stated is a scientific biological fact. You don't understand the term "sexual intercourse". You are stupid and indoctrinated.

 

[Curried Goats]

Being a fucked-up freak tends to adversely affect one's social standing among sane, decent, normal people.

Who would have guessed?

Who thinks you're decent people?

 

[Orangecat]

Bullying is a good thing. It helps to toughen people up.

 

[Curried Goats]

No, what I stated is a scientific biological fact. You don't understand the term "sexual intercourse". You are stupid and indoctrinated.

And pray tell what biology book explained this to you?

 

[SamInAZ]

It isn't. We observe homosexuality not just in humans but in lots of other mammals. If you want to make a claim about objective reality then go ahead and let's hear your best argument.

There is no observable "animal homosexuality", it's not scientific in any way to try to lay human sexuality templates over the lower animal's sexual behaviors. My dog likes to hump towels sometimes, does that make him a towellsexual? No. We know why dogs hump towels or dogs of the same sex, it ain't because they find dogs of the same sex hotter than the opposite. It's caused by conflicting stimuli that is confusing their instincts...like smelling a female in heat a couple yards over.
I can't believe people still try this argument.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

No one needs to play with you Bingos. You dumb Bingos will sort yourselves out in no time. Fewer and fewer of you are in positions of authority or power because you cant make it into higher education. We're all watching your ignorant, backwards culture go extinct.

Natural selection will do the job.

Only those who know the difference between male and female, and how to properly apply this difference, get to pass our traits on to future generations. Those of you who remove yourselves from the human gene pool, do not. You're just litter and detritus left along the side of the highway of evolution.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Of course they are. Absolutely. No question, whatsoever.

This I know, because I know that literally everyone has been, is, and will be bullied sometimes. Being bullied is in no way unique to transfolk, nor is there the slightest evidence that they experience it any more than non trans people.

Unless you are a hermit, life is a continuous process of having other people try to impose their will on you in large ways and small, in ways subtle to outrageous and everything in between. Motivation for this bullying can include disliking an individual, disliking a type of individual, dislike for self that is acted out as dislike for everyone, desire to get one's own way, and even simple boredom. As adults, we have to deal with bullying, just as we did as children.

Because childhood bullying is much less subtle than adult bullying, most kids quickly learn to deal with it, which makes them more successful adults, provided they learn to recognize the more subtle bullying that takes place among adults and deal with it as well. Some people are slow learners and they have worse outcomes than people with more snap. Another part of life that cannot be changed.

If there were no transgenders in the world, the bullies would still gonna bully, and the non-transgenders (which would be everyone) would still gonna be bullied. Since there are transgenders in the world, a better use of the time and energy of progressives would be to help transgender youth and adults learn to avoid/deal with bullying, instead of trying to somehow legislate or medicate it away.

Hint: dressing like a crazy person is not a good bullying avoidance strategy.

If we could wave a magic wand and no transgender person would ever be bullied, would that reduce the suicide rate? Nope. That would do nothing to reduce the co-morbidities like depression and autism that are associated with both transgenderism and high suicide rates. Transfolk commit suicide at higher rates because they have a mental disorder associated with high suicide rate. All the hormones and scalpels in the world do not change that.

Like anyone else with a mental disorder, people with gender dysphoria have a burden to bear. Trying to force it on other people will not make their load any easier. We non-trans have our own burden's to bear, and it would be impossible for us to take on yours, even if we wanted to. In fact, trying to force your burden on others is a form of what?


Bullying.


Yep.

All that just to say, "I know that literally everyone has been, is, and will be bullied sometimes".

So if they're straight, confused, white, black, tall, short, ginger, black hair etc.., "I know that literally everyone has been, is, and will be bullied sometimes".

 

[BS Filter]

And pray tell what biology book explained this to you?

High school. Do you understand what sex organs are? Damn, you're stupid.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

They in fact can. I think you mean to say that their sexual coupling won't result in procreation, which no one refutes.

Which, biologically, is kind of the point of sexual intercourse.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Tta

Bingos is my word for ignorant bigots.

So, Bingos are their name-o?