LordBrownTrout
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Those scientists that tell you to wear 6 masks? Those financial experts who are blowing out the treasury? Lol. You'll follow that stupidity without question won't you.
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Are we at herd immunity? If not please explain why not.
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Those scientists that tell you to wear 6 masks? Those financial experts who are blowing out the treasury? Lol. You'll follow that stupidity without question won't you.
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I asked a question and you said Trust the CDC? What part of my math do you disagree with?"Are we there yet?"Estimated total cases in the US - 81 Million
Cases, Data, and Surveillance
Cases, data, and surveillance to track and analyze COVID-19.www.cdc.gov
Asymptomatic persons in the US - 132mil
Total Vaccinated - 34 mil
Tracking COVID-19 vaccine distribution by state: How many people have been vaccinated in the US?
See how many COVID-19 vaccines your state received, and how many people have been given one so far.www.usatoday.com
Total Safe = 247mil or 75%
So at 75% are we not at herd immunity? Why didn't Joe Biden state as such? I would recommend listening to the podcast.
No, we're not.
Wait until you get the all clear from your state's CDC. They know what they're doing. We can fling numbers around all day and pretend to be experts, but THEY are, we're not.
Be patient, and if you can't be patient, at least don't try to convince people it's all over.
Admiral Rockwell Tory
Diamond Member
Are we at herd immunity? If not please explain why not.
Because---
- THERE IS NO HERD.
- THERE IS NO IMMUNITY.
- THERE NEVER WAS A PANDEMIC.
That's great to know! Over half a million people died due to their just imagining they were sick.
OldLady
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Trust the CDC. They know more than we do.I asked a question and you said Trust the CDC? What part of my math do you disagree with?"Are we there yet?"Estimated total cases in the US - 81 Million
Cases, Data, and Surveillance
Cases, data, and surveillance to track and analyze COVID-19.
Asymptomatic persons in the US - 132mil
Total Vaccinated - 34 mil
Tracking COVID-19 vaccine distribution by state: How many people have been vaccinated in the US?
See how many COVID-19 vaccines your state received, and how many people have been given one so far.www.usatoday.com
Total Safe = 247mil or 75%
So at 75% are we not at herd immunity? Why didn't Joe Biden state as such? I would recommend listening to the podcast.
No, we're not.
Wait until you get the all clear from your state's CDC. They know what they're doing. We can fling numbers around all day and pretend to be experts, but THEY are, we're not.
Be patient, and if you can't be patient, at least don't try to convince people it's all over.
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- #45
My data is from the CDC....?Trust the CDC. They know more than we do.I asked a question and you said Trust the CDC? What part of my math do you disagree with?"Are we there yet?"Estimated total cases in the US - 81 Million
Cases, Data, and Surveillance
Cases, data, and surveillance to track and analyze COVID-19.
Asymptomatic persons in the US - 132mil
Total Vaccinated - 34 mil
Tracking COVID-19 vaccine distribution by state: How many people have been vaccinated in the US?
See how many COVID-19 vaccines your state received, and how many people have been given one so far.www.usatoday.com
Total Safe = 247mil or 75%
So at 75% are we not at herd immunity? Why didn't Joe Biden state as such? I would recommend listening to the podcast.
No, we're not.
Wait until you get the all clear from your state's CDC. They know what they're doing. We can fling numbers around all day and pretend to be experts, but THEY are, we're not.
Be patient, and if you can't be patient, at least don't try to convince people it's all over.
OldLady
Diamond Member
- Nov 16, 2015
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Apparently, they are drawing a different conclusion.My data is from the CDC....?Trust the CDC. They know more than we do.I asked a question and you said Trust the CDC? What part of my math do you disagree with?"Are we there yet?"Estimated total cases in the US - 81 Million
Cases, Data, and Surveillance
Cases, data, and surveillance to track and analyze COVID-19.
Asymptomatic persons in the US - 132mil
Total Vaccinated - 34 mil
Tracking COVID-19 vaccine distribution by state: How many people have been vaccinated in the US?
See how many COVID-19 vaccines your state received, and how many people have been given one so far.www.usatoday.com
Total Safe = 247mil or 75%
So at 75% are we not at herd immunity? Why didn't Joe Biden state as such? I would recommend listening to the podcast.
No, we're not.
Wait until you get the all clear from your state's CDC. They know what they're doing. We can fling numbers around all day and pretend to be experts, but THEY are, we're not.
Be patient, and if you can't be patient, at least don't try to convince people it's all over.
toobfreak
Tungsten/Glass Member
Are we at herd immunity? If not please explain why not.
Because---
- THERE IS NO HERD.
- THERE IS NO IMMUNITY.
- THERE NEVER WAS A PANDEMIC.
That's great to know! Over half a million people died due to their just imagining they were sick.
Did 28 people die in your state yesterday? Of any cause? If a bus crashes killing 28 people, do you panic? What about shootings? Heart attacks? Strokes?
All it takes is 28 people dying per day per state to equal the "pandemic" that stopped the world. Nearly 80,000 died of the last bad flu season we had and the flu season only lasts a few months.
In 1918, one of seven children died in my mother's family with two others nearly dead from fever and delirium. 3 out of 7. Pandemic.
- Sep 19, 2020
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- 8,454
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I don't know, but I suspect with a virus as transmissible as COVID, it does take higher numbers of immunity to get herd immunity.Estimated total cases in the US - 81 Million
Cases, Data, and Surveillance
Cases, data, and surveillance to track and analyze COVID-19.
Asymptomatic persons in the US - 132mil
Total Vaccinated - 34 mil
Tracking COVID-19 vaccine distribution by state: How many people have been vaccinated in the US?
See how many COVID-19 vaccines your state received, and how many people have been given one so far.www.usatoday.com
Total Safe = 247mil or 75%
So at 75% are we not at herd immunity? Why didn't Joe Biden state as such? I would recommend listening to the podcast.
France is looking at a third wave. They will have more restrictive lockdowns again, if they haven't already...
IHME | COVID-19 Projections
Explore forecasts of COVID-19 cases, deaths, and hospital resource use.
covid19.healthdata.org
Germany is predicted to have a mild third wave soon...
IHME | COVID-19 Projections
Explore forecasts of COVID-19 cases, deaths, and hospital resource use.
covid19.healthdata.org
For the record, I am in favor of opening America completely and immediately.
Very important: COVID is probably never going to actually completely go away. Like influenza, the COVID-19 virus already has at least seven different strains. It's what viruses do. The strains tend to get weaker over time (more deadly viruses tend to kill too many people, prevent the ability of the virus to spread.)
They say if you had a mild case of COVID, immunity lasts only about 1.5 months. A severe case, probably gives you immunity for at least three months, maybe "a season."
Similar immunity is provided by the vaccine. They think it will provide immunity for at least three months, probably "a season."
There will be booster shots, and vaccines tuned to a different strain, I bet.
There are four other types of coronaviruses (prior to COVID) that most people acquire at some point in their lives. They also cause flu-like symptoms. SARS and MERS are two additional coronaviruses. They also cause flu-like symptoms.
There is nothing exceptionally remarkable about COVID. It was a plandemic used to steal the election and reset America to help push a globalist and Socialist agenda.
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And why do you believe that is? What was incorrect with my math?Apparently, they are drawing a different conclusion.My data is from the CDC....?Trust the CDC. They know more than we do.I asked a question and you said Trust the CDC? What part of my math do you disagree with?"Are we there yet?"Estimated total cases in the US - 81 Million
Cases, Data, and Surveillance
Cases, data, and surveillance to track and analyze COVID-19.
Asymptomatic persons in the US - 132mil
Total Vaccinated - 34 mil
Tracking COVID-19 vaccine distribution by state: How many people have been vaccinated in the US?
See how many COVID-19 vaccines your state received, and how many people have been given one so far.www.usatoday.com
Total Safe = 247mil or 75%
So at 75% are we not at herd immunity? Why didn't Joe Biden state as such? I would recommend listening to the podcast.
No, we're not.
Wait until you get the all clear from your state's CDC. They know what they're doing. We can fling numbers around all day and pretend to be experts, but THEY are, we're not.
Be patient, and if you can't be patient, at least don't try to convince people it's all over.
Unkotare
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....France is looking at a third wave. They will have more restrictive lockdowns again, if they haven't already...
.....
When this is all over, the only survivors in France will be the mimes (because they are isolated in their invisible boxes).
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- #51
Are we really shocked that France surrendered?I don't know, but I suspect with a virus as transmissible as COVID, it does take higher numbers of immunity to get herd immunity.Estimated total cases in the US - 81 Million
Cases, Data, and Surveillance
Cases, data, and surveillance to track and analyze COVID-19.
Asymptomatic persons in the US - 132mil
Total Vaccinated - 34 mil
Tracking COVID-19 vaccine distribution by state: How many people have been vaccinated in the US?
See how many COVID-19 vaccines your state received, and how many people have been given one so far.www.usatoday.com
Total Safe = 247mil or 75%
So at 75% are we not at herd immunity? Why didn't Joe Biden state as such? I would recommend listening to the podcast.
France is looking at a third wave. They will have more restrictive lockdowns again, if they haven't already...
IHME | COVID-19 Projections
Explore forecasts of COVID-19 cases, deaths, and hospital resource use.
Germany is predicted to have a mild third wave soon...
IHME | COVID-19 Projections
Explore forecasts of COVID-19 cases, deaths, and hospital resource use.
For the record, I am in favor of opening America completely and immediately.
Very important: COVID is probably never going to actually completely go away. Like influenza, the COVID-19 virus already has at least seven different strains. It's what viruses do. The strains tend to get weaker over time (more deadly viruses tend to kill too many people, prevent the ability of the virus to spread.)
They say if you had a mild case of COVID, immunity lasts only about 1.5 months. A severe case, probably gives you immunity for at least three months, maybe "a season."
Similar immunity is provided by the vaccine. They think it will provide immunity for at least three months, probably "a season."
There will be booster shots, and vaccines tuned to a different strain, I bet.
There are four other types of coronaviruses (prior to COVID) that most people acquire at some point in their lives. They also cause flu-like symptoms. SARS and MERS are two additional coronaviruses. They also cause flu-like symptoms.
There is nothing exceptionally remarkable about COVID. It was a plandemic used to steal the election and reset America to help push a globalist and Socialist agenda.
OldLady
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- Nov 16, 2015
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It's more than numbers?And why do you believe that is? What was incorrect with my math?Apparently, they are drawing a different conclusion.My data is from the CDC....?Trust the CDC. They know more than we do.I asked a question and you said Trust the CDC? What part of my math do you disagree with?"Are we there yet?"Estimated total cases in the US - 81 Million
Cases, Data, and Surveillance
Cases, data, and surveillance to track and analyze COVID-19.
Asymptomatic persons in the US - 132mil
Total Vaccinated - 34 mil
Tracking COVID-19 vaccine distribution by state: How many people have been vaccinated in the US?
See how many COVID-19 vaccines your state received, and how many people have been given one so far.www.usatoday.com
Total Safe = 247mil or 75%
So at 75% are we not at herd immunity? Why didn't Joe Biden state as such? I would recommend listening to the podcast.
No, we're not.
Wait until you get the all clear from your state's CDC. They know what they're doing. We can fling numbers around all day and pretend to be experts, but THEY are, we're not.
Be patient, and if you can't be patient, at least don't try to convince people it's all over.
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- #53
How can that be the case? Math doesn't lie. It is possible that they are being extra cautious I guess but based on purely mathematics we have herd immunity IMO.It's more than numbers?And why do you believe that is? What was incorrect with my math?Apparently, they are drawing a different conclusion.My data is from the CDC....?Trust the CDC. They know more than we do.I asked a question and you said Trust the CDC? What part of my math do you disagree with?"Are we there yet?"Estimated total cases in the US - 81 Million
Cases, Data, and Surveillance
Cases, data, and surveillance to track and analyze COVID-19.
Asymptomatic persons in the US - 132mil
Total Vaccinated - 34 mil
Tracking COVID-19 vaccine distribution by state: How many people have been vaccinated in the US?
See how many COVID-19 vaccines your state received, and how many people have been given one so far.www.usatoday.com
Total Safe = 247mil or 75%
So at 75% are we not at herd immunity? Why didn't Joe Biden state as such? I would recommend listening to the podcast.
No, we're not.
Wait until you get the all clear from your state's CDC. They know what they're doing. We can fling numbers around all day and pretend to be experts, but THEY are, we're not.
Be patient, and if you can't be patient, at least don't try to convince people it's all over.
OldLady
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Okay. I'll go with the CDC's opinion instead, though.How can that be the case? Math doesn't lie. It is possible that they are being extra cautious I guess but based on purely mathematics we have herd immunity IMO.It's more than numbers?And why do you believe that is? What was incorrect with my math?Apparently, they are drawing a different conclusion.My data is from the CDC....?Trust the CDC. They know more than we do.I asked a question and you said Trust the CDC? What part of my math do you disagree with?"Are we there yet?"Estimated total cases in the US - 81 Million
Cases, Data, and Surveillance
Cases, data, and surveillance to track and analyze COVID-19.
Asymptomatic persons in the US - 132mil
Total Vaccinated - 34 mil
Tracking COVID-19 vaccine distribution by state: How many people have been vaccinated in the US?
See how many COVID-19 vaccines your state received, and how many people have been given one so far.www.usatoday.com
Total Safe = 247mil or 75%
So at 75% are we not at herd immunity? Why didn't Joe Biden state as such? I would recommend listening to the podcast.
No, we're not.
Wait until you get the all clear from your state's CDC. They know what they're doing. We can fling numbers around all day and pretend to be experts, but THEY are, we're not.
Be patient, and if you can't be patient, at least don't try to convince people it's all over.
- Sep 19, 2020
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> Okay. I'll go with the CDC's opinion instead, though.Okay. I'll go with the CDC's opinion instead, though.How can that be the case? Math doesn't lie. It is possible that they are being extra cautious I guess but based on purely mathematics we have herd immunity IMO.It's more than numbers?And why do you believe that is? What was incorrect with my math?Apparently, they are drawing a different conclusion.My data is from the CDC....?Trust the CDC. They know more than we do.I asked a question and you said Trust the CDC? What part of my math do you disagree with?"Are we there yet?"Estimated total cases in the US - 81 Million
Cases, Data, and Surveillance
Cases, data, and surveillance to track and analyze COVID-19.
Asymptomatic persons in the US - 132mil
Total Vaccinated - 34 mil
Tracking COVID-19 vaccine distribution by state: How many people have been vaccinated in the US?
See how many COVID-19 vaccines your state received, and how many people have been given one so far.www.usatoday.com
Total Safe = 247mil or 75%
So at 75% are we not at herd immunity? Why didn't Joe Biden state as such? I would recommend listening to the podcast.
No, we're not.
Wait until you get the all clear from your state's CDC. They know what they're doing. We can fling numbers around all day and pretend to be experts, but THEY are, we're not.
Be patient, and if you can't be patient, at least don't try to convince people it's all over.
Keep wearing your mask that the CDC proves is at most 2% effective....
CDC just completed an exhaustive study on the effectiveness of masks, since they now have plenty of data...
CDC admits masks and closing restaurants did not work. Effectiveness is less than 2% for both cases and death rates. Also, opening restaurants increased rates less than ~3%, and was not considered statistically significant.
Association of State-Issued Mask Mandates and Allowing ...
Of course, the CDC uses this study which proves that masks don't work to conclude that people should keep wearing masks.
OldLady
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I know. I saw that. It wasn't a controlled study and didn't take into account how many people were complying. Around here, it was only around half at the time. The controlled experiments on masks use resulted in 23% effective in not spreading it.> Okay. I'll go with the CDC's opinion instead, though.Okay. I'll go with the CDC's opinion instead, though.How can that be the case? Math doesn't lie. It is possible that they are being extra cautious I guess but based on purely mathematics we have herd immunity IMO.It's more than numbers?And why do you believe that is? What was incorrect with my math?Apparently, they are drawing a different conclusion.My data is from the CDC....?Trust the CDC. They know more than we do.I asked a question and you said Trust the CDC? What part of my math do you disagree with?"Are we there yet?"Estimated total cases in the US - 81 Million
Cases, Data, and Surveillance
Cases, data, and surveillance to track and analyze COVID-19.
Asymptomatic persons in the US - 132mil
Total Vaccinated - 34 mil
Tracking COVID-19 vaccine distribution by state: How many people have been vaccinated in the US?
See how many COVID-19 vaccines your state received, and how many people have been given one so far.www.usatoday.com
Total Safe = 247mil or 75%
So at 75% are we not at herd immunity? Why didn't Joe Biden state as such? I would recommend listening to the podcast.
No, we're not.
Wait until you get the all clear from your state's CDC. They know what they're doing. We can fling numbers around all day and pretend to be experts, but THEY are, we're not.
Be patient, and if you can't be patient, at least don't try to convince people it's all over.
Keep wearing your mask that the CDC proves is at most 2% effective....
CDC just completed an exhaustive study on the effectiveness of masks, since they now have plenty of data...
CDC admits masks and closing restaurants did not work. Effectiveness is less than 2% for both cases and death rates. Also, opening restaurants increased rates less than ~3%, and was not considered statistically significant.
Association of State-Issued Mask Mandates and Allowing ...
Of course, the CDC uses this study which proves that masks don't work to conclude that people should keep wearing masks.
- Sep 19, 2020
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- 8,454
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> The controlled experiments on masks use resulted in 23% effective in not spreading it.I know. I saw that. It wasn't a controlled study and didn't take into account how many people were complying. Around here, it was only around half at the time. The controlled experiments on masks use resulted in 23% effective in not spreading it.> Okay. I'll go with the CDC's opinion instead, though.Okay. I'll go with the CDC's opinion instead, though.How can that be the case? Math doesn't lie. It is possible that they are being extra cautious I guess but based on purely mathematics we have herd immunity IMO.It's more than numbers?And why do you believe that is? What was incorrect with my math?Apparently, they are drawing a different conclusion.My data is from the CDC....?Trust the CDC. They know more than we do.I asked a question and you said Trust the CDC? What part of my math do you disagree with?"Are we there yet?"Estimated total cases in the US - 81 Million
Cases, Data, and Surveillance
Cases, data, and surveillance to track and analyze COVID-19.
Asymptomatic persons in the US - 132mil
Total Vaccinated - 34 mil
Tracking COVID-19 vaccine distribution by state: How many people have been vaccinated in the US?
See how many COVID-19 vaccines your state received, and how many people have been given one so far.www.usatoday.com
Total Safe = 247mil or 75%
So at 75% are we not at herd immunity? Why didn't Joe Biden state as such? I would recommend listening to the podcast.
No, we're not.
Wait until you get the all clear from your state's CDC. They know what they're doing. We can fling numbers around all day and pretend to be experts, but THEY are, we're not.
Be patient, and if you can't be patient, at least don't try to convince people it's all over.
Keep wearing your mask that the CDC proves is at most 2% effective....
CDC just completed an exhaustive study on the effectiveness of masks, since they now have plenty of data...
CDC admits masks and closing restaurants did not work. Effectiveness is less than 2% for both cases and death rates. Also, opening restaurants increased rates less than ~3%, and was not considered statistically significant.
Association of State-Issued Mask Mandates and Allowing ...
Of course, the CDC uses this study which proves that masks don't work to conclude that people should keep wearing masks.
Please elaborate. Was it a controlled study with real humans living in society? I linked to the official CDC page. It's apparently the best data they have. I am skeptical of your claim, but I was actually surprised that the CDC data was so definitive.
Nearly 80,000 died of the last bad flu season we had and the flu season only lasts a few months.
In 1918, one of seven children died in my mother's family with two others nearly dead from fever and delirium. 3 out of 7. Pandemic.
Okay, 80,000 died of flu in a bad flu season --------- but we are well over half a million, 532,000 dead of this COVID thing, and that IS a bad epidemic. I'm impressed.
As for the 1918 Influenza, 645,000 dead in the U.S. is the consensus figure. But the population has exactly tripled since then, so triple the death toll, too: about 2.2 million, that's 2,200,000 to equal the 1918 death toll. By August. The 1918 flu was over by August, a year and a half. I sure hope this is over by August: that's what I am counting on, but I don't much like our chances with the rushed-out vaccine problems and the surges from variants.
THERE NEVER WAS A PANDEMIC.
Oh, this is a pandemic, all right ------- it could be worse, though. 1918 was worse; If yellow fever comes back, and it will, it was in China two years ago first time, yellow fever has a MUCH higher mortality. And takes six months to recover from, in bed, if someone does happen to survive. And then there is Ebola, which keeps breaking out again and again and sooner or later surely will get into one of those grossly overpopulated cities in Africa that has airplanes so it can zip around the world. There are some amazing diseases out there. I'm expecting polio to resurge. They can't mop up the last of it in Pakistan and Afghanistan. That one has a bad fatality rate. I don't know if we are still vaccinating against that in the U.S.
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