Are We Supposed To Harden Walmarts and Grocery Stores, Too?

[Big Bend Texas]

And yet you failed last time I asked you to back up that claim.

Go ahead and flail some more for me.

I already have, the only flailing is your own.

You are an insult to the very idea of honest debate and discussion.

 

[XponentialChaos]

You are talking just Ramos, I am talking all psychopaths from obtaining a gun.

And I didn't say I wanted to do nothing now did I?

You didn't say you wanted to do anything either, now did you?

Yes, I'm talking just Ramos. There's nothing we can do to fix the entire issue. But we can still reduce it. And you don't want to do that.

 

[XponentialChaos]

I already have...

Claiming that you have doesn't mean that you have. You're just lying. Again.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Claiming that you have doesn't mean that you have. You're just lying. Again.

You really are out of your fucking mind.

Armed and dangerous: About 100,000 convicted felons in the U.S. have guns

Those convicted of a felony are banned from owning firearms, but so far the only state to issue a recall of these illegal weapons is California.

www.studyfinds.org

 

[Papageorgio]

Post 242.

Why not 29? What about 22? How do you determine 21?

 

[Big Bend Texas]

You really are out of your fucking mind.

LONDON — Gun ownership and laws surrounding firearms continue to be a hot-button issue in the United States. As lawmakers fight over who should have access to firearms, a disturbing study finds one group that can’t legally own them has too many — convicted felons. Researchers in California estimate that nearly 100,000 people in the U.S. own a firearm despite having a felony conviction.

Armed and dangerous: About 100,000 convicted felons in the U.S. have guns

Those convicted of a felony are banned from owning firearms, but so far the only state to issue a recall of these illegal weapons is California.

www.studyfinds.org

TRAFFIC (LEGAL AND ILLEGAL) IN GUNS | Office of Justice Programs

www.ojp.gov

 

[XponentialChaos]

Will your Mirror Mirror On The Wall point out the Ramos’ for you?

If it did the authorities would have already intervened in his life long before he was 18

Pass the law and then go back to sleep

Ramos might have to wait till he’s 21 to buy an AR, or maybe he will steal his grandmothers truck and just run people over as they walk down the street

That's the point. We don't have a magic mirror to identify people like Ramos. So raise the minimum age to give people a fighting chance to identify psychopaths like him.

He could have stolen his grandmothers truck and been very ineffective at killing people. The data shows that mass killers are not very good at killing large amounts of people in the United States.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You are talking just Ramos, I am talking all psychopaths from obtaining a gun.

And I didn't say I wanted to do nothing now did I?

No you didn't. Nobody did. But he's one of those posters that say the same shit dozens of times in the same topic and for some reason enjoys it. He does it in every topic I've seen him participate in.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Why not 29? What about 22? How do you determine 21?

Because that's the same age we have for hand guns. And because that's exactly what Florida did.

If 18-year-olds can't be trusted with hand guns, then they shouldn't be trusted with rifles either.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

That's the point. We don't have a magic mirror to identify people like Ramos. So raise the minimum age to give people a fighting chance to identify psychopaths like him.

Supposition not based on any actual known facts.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Because that's the same age we have for hand guns. And because that's exactly what Florida did.

If 18-year-olds can't be trusted with hand guns, then they shouldn't be trusted with rifles either.

Or the right to vote.

Either you are an adult or you're not.

 

[XponentialChaos]

You really are out of your fucking mind.

Armed and dangerous: About 100,000 convicted felons in the U.S. have guns

Those convicted of a felony are banned from owning firearms, but so far the only state to issue a recall of these illegal weapons is California.

www.studyfinds.org

Your claim: "Raising the age to 21 isn't going to stop anyone from getting a firearm if they want one to commit a crime with."

Quote the part that says that it won't stop anyone. Oh. Right. It doesn't say that. You're just not smart.

 

[Papageorgio]

You didn't say you wanted to do anything either, now did you?

Yes, I'm talking just Ramos. There's nothing we can do to fix the entire issue. But we can still reduce it. And you don't want to do that.

On what basis did you decide 21?

 

[Big Bend Texas]

No you didn't. Nobody did. But he's one of those posters that say the same shit dozens of times in the same topic and for some reason enjoys it. He does it in every topic I've seen him participate in.

He's nothing but a hateful little compulsive, and reflexive liar totally ruled by emotion and utterly incapable of an honest or forthright discussion or debate.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

That's the point. We don't have a magic mirror to identify people like Ramos. So raise the minimum age to give people a fighting chance to identify psychopaths like him.

The Vegas shooter was 64 years old. What do we do about guys like him?

 

[XponentialChaos]

Or the right to vote.

Either you are an adult or you're not.

Florida and I disagree with your stupid desire to intertwine two things that don't need to be connected.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Supposition not based on any actual known facts.

You don't think psychopaths would be more likely to be flagged with more time? Ok, if you want to dispute that, that's fine. You're just not very bright.

 

[eagle1462010]

That's the point. We don't have a magic mirror to identify people like Ramos. So raise the minimum age to give people a fighting chance to identify psychopaths like him.

He could have stolen his grandmothers truck and been very ineffective at killing people. The data shows that mass killers are not very good at killing large amounts of people in the United States.

So you just punish Everyone right? Pffft

 

[XponentialChaos]

The Vegas shooter was 64 years old. What do we do about guys like him?

I don't know.

Admittedly, it's harder to catch people like that and I'm not sure much could have been done to deal with him.

But Ramos? We could have caught that one.

 

[SavannahMann]

Seriously? How about we eliminate the Capitol Police and SS protection for the SOTH, Pres Pro Tem and Majority leader of the Senate as well as all sitting and past presidents and their families and leave it up to them to defend themselves?

Why not? The cops have no Constitutional duty to protect anyone. If the answer for the rest of us is arm up and take care of business when you are attacked. Why should it be different for anyone else?