Aren't Dem SuperDelegates as bad as Citizens United in their ability to pervert democracy?

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Aren't Dem SuperDelegates as bad as Citizens United in their ability to pervert democracy? They may even be worse! Citizens United is just about money and buying ad time, these SuperDelegates buy elections and pervert Democracy to their own ends

You are absolutely right and where is the outrage from the Democrats? Their party is the only one where a candidate win the state and lose on delegates. The Democrat Sheeple do not seem to mind, so what the hell, let the party dictate the outcome.

I hate that, so what do you suggest we do to overturn the rules from the inception?

When something is wrong, you change it! Don't any of the DNC members have a conscience of what is right and what is wrong? DWS is rigging your process and nobody stands up and says "NO! Let our voices stand!"

At least the Republican rank and file are brave enough to buck the elite when they are wrong. They have a voice!

And how is the process 'rigged'?

Show us a single example of the super delegates deciding a nomination against the candidate with the most pledged delegates.

Just one.

 

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Aren't Dem SuperDelegates as bad as Citizens United in their ability to pervert democracy? They may even be worse! Citizens United is just about money and buying ad time, these SuperDelegates buy elections and pervert Democracy to their own ends

You are absolutely right and where is the outrage from the Democrats? Their party is the only one where a candidate win the state and lose on delegates. The Democrat Sheeple do not seem to mind, so what the hell, let the party dictate the outcome.

I hate that, so what do you suggest we do to overturn the rules from the inception?

When something is wrong, you change it!

So, you dont really know either.

 

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Aren't Dem SuperDelegates as bad as Citizens United in their ability to pervert democracy? They may even be worse! Citizens United is just about money and buying ad time, these SuperDelegates buy elections and pervert Democracy to their own ends

When have super delegates decided a nomination against the candidate with the most pledged delegates?

I'll give you a hint. The answer begins with an N. And rhymes with 'Trevor'.

Wrong.
"In the 1984 election, the major contenders for the presidential nomination were Gary Hart and Walter Mondale. Each won some primaries and caucuses. Mondale was only slightly ahead of Hart in the total number of votes cast but won the support of almost all superdelegates and became the nominee."

Mondale won the pledged delegate count, the population vote and the total delegate count.

Democratic Party presidential primaries, 1984 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Try again. This time without flagrantly lying your ass off. As by your own source, Mondale had the most pledged delegates.

 

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So you disagree with or support both the SuperDelegates and Citizens United?

Support Citizens United, that just letting people spend $ and I don't care about democrat Superdelegates, we know it's a Party that thrives on fraud elections

So both do the same thing but you only support one. Based, coincidentally of course, on political party.


Shocker

What does Citizens United have to do with political Parties? ?

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Companies that support Dems don't have to buy ads?

You think this is what I'm laughing about? Whether or not Dems get free advertising lol. You're on a deflection roll today

 

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Aren't Dem SuperDelegates as bad as Citizens United in their ability to pervert democracy? They may even be worse! Citizens United is just about money and buying ad time, these SuperDelegates buy elections and pervert Democracy to their own ends

it's nearly the same as a brokered convention.

trump or cruz need 1237 delegates or rubio wins

 

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Aren't Dem SuperDelegates as bad as Citizens United in their ability to pervert democracy? They may even be worse! Citizens United is just about money and buying ad time, these SuperDelegates buy elections and pervert Democracy to their own ends

When have super delegates decided a nomination against the candidate with the most pledged delegates?

I'll give you a hint. The answer begins with an N. And rhymes with 'Trevor'.

Wrong.
"In the 1984 election, the major contenders for the presidential nomination were Gary Hart and Walter Mondale. Each won some primaries and caucuses. Mondale was only slightly ahead of Hart in the total number of votes cast but won the support of almost all superdelegates and became the nominee."

read it again...

 

[Skylar]

Aren't Dem SuperDelegates as bad as Citizens United in their ability to pervert democracy? They may even be worse! Citizens United is just about money and buying ad time, these SuperDelegates buy elections and pervert Democracy to their own ends

it's nearly the same as a brokered convention.

trump or cruz need 1237 delegates or rubio wins

If Rubio 'wins' a brokered convention, the Republican party gives sloppy birth to a third party.

 

[Avatar4321]

I don't think free speech hurts our republic

 

[Skylar]

Aren't Dem SuperDelegates as bad as Citizens United in their ability to pervert democracy? They may even be worse! Citizens United is just about money and buying ad time, these SuperDelegates buy elections and pervert Democracy to their own ends

When have super delegates decided a nomination against the candidate with the most pledged delegates?

I'll give you a hint. The answer begins with an N. And rhymes with 'Trevor'.

Wrong.
"In the 1984 election, the major contenders for the presidential nomination were Gary Hart and Walter Mondale. Each won some primaries and caucuses. Mondale was only slightly ahead of Hart in the total number of votes cast but won the support of almost all superdelegates and became the nominee."

read it again...

That's the part that just boggles the mind. They lie.....and then quote sources that confirm they lied.

Sigh....you can't fix stupid.

 

[FA_Q2]

Aren't Dem SuperDelegates as bad as Citizens United in their ability to pervert democracy? They may even be worse! Citizens United is just about money and buying ad time, these SuperDelegates buy elections and pervert Democracy to their own ends

You are absolutely right and where is the outrage from the Democrats? Their party is the only one where a candidate win the state and lose on delegates. The Democrat Sheeple do not seem to mind, so what the hell, let the party dictate the outcome.

I hate that, so what do you suggest we do to overturn the rules from the inception?

Yes.

Is that such a bad thing? The super delegates is a bad setup that has the potential to buck the actual vote. Why keep it?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Aren't Dem SuperDelegates as bad as Citizens United in their ability to pervert democracy? They may even be worse! Citizens United is just about money and buying ad time, these SuperDelegates buy elections and pervert Democracy to their own ends

it's nearly the same as a brokered convention.

trump or cruz need 1237 delegates or rubio wins

What??????????????? Can you count?

 

[Skylar]

Aren't Dem SuperDelegates as bad as Citizens United in their ability to pervert democracy? They may even be worse! Citizens United is just about money and buying ad time, these SuperDelegates buy elections and pervert Democracy to their own ends

You are absolutely right and where is the outrage from the Democrats? Their party is the only one where a candidate win the state and lose on delegates. The Democrat Sheeple do not seem to mind, so what the hell, let the party dictate the outcome.

I hate that, so what do you suggest we do to overturn the rules from the inception?

Yes.

Is that such a bad thing? The super delegates is a bad setup that has the potential to buck the actual vote. Why keep it?

Simple: it grants the DNC a semblance of influence over the nomination by imparting an air of momentum on their favored candidate. And helps avoid populist assholes talking about their own dick on national television from being the Democrat's leading candidate.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Aren't Dem SuperDelegates as bad as Citizens United in their ability to pervert democracy? They may even be worse! Citizens United is just about money and buying ad time, these SuperDelegates buy elections and pervert Democracy to their own ends

it's nearly the same as a brokered convention.

trump or cruz need 1237 delegates or rubio wins

What??????????????? Can you count?

If I recall, a delegate needs 1237 to win out right

sorry, running a fever and not getting enough sleep

 

[ClosedCaption]

Aren't Dem SuperDelegates as bad as Citizens United in their ability to pervert democracy? They may even be worse! Citizens United is just about money and buying ad time, these SuperDelegates buy elections and pervert Democracy to their own ends

You are absolutely right and where is the outrage from the Democrats? Their party is the only one where a candidate win the state and lose on delegates. The Democrat Sheeple do not seem to mind, so what the hell, let the party dictate the outcome.

I hate that, so what do you suggest we do to overturn the rules from the inception?

Yes.

Is that such a bad thing? The super delegates is a bad setup that has the potential to buck the actual vote. Why keep it?

I agree, so what can I do?

 

[ClosedCaption]

I don't think free speech hurts our republic

No its hurts when people speech is freeer than free because they have a ton of money.

 

[bendog]

Aren't Dem SuperDelegates as bad as Citizens United in their ability to pervert democracy? They may even be worse! Citizens United is just about money and buying ad time, these SuperDelegates buy elections and pervert Democracy to their own ends

You are absolutely right and where is the outrage from the Democrats? Their party is the only one where a candidate win the state and lose on delegates. The Democrat Sheeple do not seem to mind, so what the hell, let the party dictate the outcome.

I hate that, so what do you suggest we do to overturn the rules from the inception?

Yes.

Is that such a bad thing? The super delegates is a bad setup that has the potential to buck the actual vote. Why keep it?

Because it also prevents a candidate with smaller plurality of the popular vote, but with more delegates, than another candidate who has a larger plurality of the popular vote, but fewer delegates, from being the nominee. And unlike your "oh it might happen someday" scenario, that actually did happen in 1972

 

[BULLDOG]

Aren't Dem SuperDelegates as bad as Citizens United in their ability to pervert democracy? They may even be worse! Citizens United is just about money and buying ad time, these SuperDelegates buy elections and pervert Democracy to their own ends

You are absolutely right and where is the outrage from the Democrats? Their party is the only one where a candidate win the state and lose on delegates. The Democrat Sheeple do not seem to mind, so what the hell, let the party dictate the outcome.

I guess that's something that only Democrats have a right to decide, and so far, it doesn't seem to be a problem. You would be better off worrying about your own party where your opinion might count. As long as you are not a democrat, you can GFY

 

[Freewill]

Aren't Dem SuperDelegates as bad as Citizens United in their ability to pervert democracy? They may even be worse! Citizens United is just about money and buying ad time, these SuperDelegates buy elections and pervert Democracy to their own ends

So you disagree with or support both the SuperDelegates and Citizens United?

Support Citizens United, that just letting people spend $ and I don't care about democrat Superdelegates, we know it's a Party that thrives on fraud elections

So both do the same thing but you only support one. Based, coincidentally of course, on political party.


Shocker

Can you tell us the mechanism that makes them both do the same?

 

[Jackson]

The rules, and the DNC officials, and even the suprerdelegates themselves are either elected to some position or appointed a person elected.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.democrats.org/Downloads/DNC_Charter__Bylaws_9.17.15.pdf

The state dem parties don't prohibit anyone from becoming involved the election and selection of superdelegates (nor do the state gop parties either)

The superdelegates will support any nominee who wins the majority of pledged delegates, and just to allow that, the superdelegates can even change their support right until the nomination votes. However, if there's ever a natl contest in which NO candidate has a clear MAJORITY of pledged delegates, then the superdelegates will most likely vote as to who is most electable.

It's no more "undemocratic" than electing representatives and senators who will vote on issues. That is, you have a remedy. Vote them out.

The rules, and the DNC officials, and even the suprerdelegates themselves are either elected to some position or appointed a person elected.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.democrats.org/Downloads/DNC_Charter__Bylaws_9.17.15.pdf

The state dem parties don't prohibit anyone from becoming involved the election and selection of superdelegates (nor do the state gop parties either)

The superdelegates will support any nominee who wins the majority of pledged delegates, and just to allow that, the superdelegates can even change their support right until the nomination votes. However, if there's ever a natl contest in which NO candidate has a clear MAJORITY of pledged delegates, then the superdelegates will most likely vote as to who is most electable.

It's no more "undemocratic" than electing representatives and senators who will vote on issues. That is, you have a remedy. Vote them out.

Aren't Dem SuperDelegates as bad as Citizens United in their ability to pervert democracy? They may even be worse! Citizens United is just about money and buying ad time, these SuperDelegates buy elections and pervert Democracy to their own ends

You are absolutely right and where is the outrage from the Democrats? Their party is the only one where a candidate win the state and lose on delegates. The Democrat Sheeple do not seem to mind, so what the hell, let the party dictate the outcome.

I guess that's something that only Democrats have a right to decide, and so far, it doesn't seem to be a problem. You would be better off worrying about your own party where your opinion might count. As long as you are not a democrat, you can GFY

You are right, Bulldog... The Republican party where an opinion counts. Certainly not the Democrat party.

 

[ogibillm]

Aren't Dem SuperDelegates as bad as Citizens United in their ability to pervert democracy? They may even be worse! Citizens United is just about money and buying ad time, these SuperDelegates buy elections and pervert Democracy to their own ends

You are absolutely right and where is the outrage from the Democrats? Their party is the only one where a candidate win the state and lose on delegates. The Democrat Sheeple do not seem to mind, so what the hell, let the party dictate the outcome.

I hate that, so what do you suggest we do to overturn the rules from the inception?

Yes.

Is that such a bad thing? The super delegates is a bad setup that has the potential to buck the actual vote. Why keep it?

the winner takes all setup has the potential to buck the actual vote. why keep it?