Armed BLM "Protester" Shot Dead in Austin, TX

[Coyote]

The men fighting for abolition were also 19th century men. There would have been no civil war without slavery.

You don’t know that

besides the issue of slavery has been settled

but libs like you will not let it die

We can feel pretty confident that it wouldn't have - what with the political maneuvering to keep slave holding vs free states balanced.

When you re-write history, to inflate the nobility of the southern cause and marginalize the role of slavery...it's you who isn't letting it "die". Add to that the fight over the flag, the mass produced confederate monuments...who's not letting it "die"?

the issue was completely dead, until you people started bringing it up again.


do you know how little impact a statue in the park has on people?


i was at the park last year and found a statue dedicated to a long dead industrialist.

i guess some hard core union guy could find it offensive. i lived in walking distance of that statue for decades and did not know it was there.


you people are doing this. you people are choosing to tear this nation apart.

To this very day, there's a statue of Vladimir Lenin in a park in Seattle. The same Lenin who was responsible for the murder of millions of people, far more than the number of blacks murdered and the number who died in the Civil War.

And yet, where is the outcry to have that removed?

Statue of Lenin (Seattle) - Wikipedia

Because it's privately owned?

It has less relevance to Americans than the Civil War does.

It does have an interesting history though...per your link:

The Statue of Lenin, Seattle, is a 16 ft (5 m) bronze statue of Communist revolutionary Vladimir Lenin, by Bulgarian sculptor Emil Venkov. It was completed and put on display in the Czechoslovak Socialist Republic in 1988, the year before the Velvet Revolution of 1989. In 1993, the statue was bought by an American who had found it lying in a scrapyard. He brought it home to Washington state, but died before he could carry out his plans for displaying the Soviet-era memento.

Since 1995, the statue has been held in trust waiting for a buyer, standing on temporary display for the last 25 years on a prominent street corner in the Fremont neighborhood of Seattle. It has become a Fremont landmark, and frequently has been decorated or vandalized. The statue has sparked political controversy, including criticisms for being communist chic and not taking the historic meaning of Lenin and communism seriously, for taking it too seriously, or by comparing the purported acceptance of such a charged political symbol to the removal of Confederate monuments and memorials. Much of the debate ignores the statue's private ownership and installation on private property, with the public and government having virtually no say in the matter.

 

[JGalt]

What do you know of Richard Spencer?

As I understand it he is a neo-nazi and white supremacist

but what does that have to with his right to express his opinions?

It was a white supremacist rally.

So fucking what? Does the First Amendment not apply to white supremacists, as well as black supremacists, atheists, radical Hispanic groups, Islamic groups, and radical leftist organizations?

BFD.

It seems you might have not been paying attention, because the big deal is that saying the white supremacist rally had some very fine people might logically be interpreted as an endorsement of white supremacy.

He said that there are "very fine people on both sides." I would also interpret that as a refusal to condemn those radical left-wing and Marxist protesters who who showed up to cause trouble. The same morons who subscribe to an ideology what has been responsible for over 100 million murders throughout history.

Those are not what you'd call "very fine people." In addition, those "very fine people" also most likely support abortion, so add another 50 million to the body county.

 

[colfax_m]

What do you know of Richard Spencer?

As I understand it he is a neo-nazi and white supremacist

but what does that have to with his right to express his opinions?

It was a white supremacist rally.

So fucking what? Does the First Amendment not apply to white supremacists, as well as black supremacists, atheists, radical Hispanic groups, Islamic groups, and radical leftist organizations?

BFD.

It seems you might have not been paying attention, because the big deal is that saying the white supremacist rally had some very fine people might logically be interpreted as an endorsement of white supremacy.

He said that there are "very fine people on both sides." I would also interpret that as a refusal to condemn those radical left-wing and Marxist protesters who who showed up to cause trouble. The same morons who subscribe to an ideology what has been responsible for over 100 million murders throughout history.

Those are not what you'd call "very fine people." In addition, those "very fine people" also most likely support abortion, so add another 50 million to the body county.

Okay, buddy. Sure.

 

[justoffal]

If the anarchist shot first then I’m glad he’s dead

But this will not be the last escalation of violence to come out of the radical lefts attempts to tear down this country

I wish someone in the news would dissect this guys personal life and background to see what was troubling him so deeply

For instance was he the product of a broken home who grew up without a steady male influence in his life?

Was he a bad student who may have graduated high school but was barely literate?

was he a failure with women and frustrated sexually?

More likely a radical queer looking for black with a fresh supply of young black males around.

Jo

Long story short: White guy, BLM-supporter, police-hater, points AK-47 at car when car is mobbed. Car owner protects himself by ventilating armed "protester."

"Austin police and emergency medical services said on Twitter that one person was killed during the shooting. There were no other deaths or people shot, according to the EMS department.

Initial reports indicate the suspect was carrying a rifle and shot at the victim, who was in his car, police told a briefing. The suspect has been detained, they said. "

One person shot, killed during Black Lives Matter protest in Texas

Garrett Foster, the Black Lives Matter supporter who was shot and killed tonight in Austin, TX, was interviewed with his AK47.

pic.twitter.com/fb0kNL0sij

Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) July 26, 2020

Clip of the shooting at the protest in Austin Texas from Hiram Gilberto on FB pic.twitter.com/VFbzqfoSff

Anthony Martino (@anthonyfartino) July 26, 2020

 

[Mac-7]

When you re-write history

You are the ones who are rewriting history

slavery was wrong but it ended 150 years ago

there is no hate toward blacks coming from the descendants of Confederate soldiers

but a lot of hate towards whites by descendants of slaves

and its so unnecessary

 

[miketx]

Fighting to maintain people as property sounds pretty evil to me.

There were more issues involved than just slavery

America was still a work in progress with people still alive from the time of th Constitutional Convention

In the south many people still thought of their state as the ultimate seat of power and where their loyalty belonged

and not every slave state joined the Confederacy

The seat of power they were fighting for was demanding the ability to own slaves, so whether you like it or not, that’s the cause.

You weren't there, you don't know what happened, you're a lying pos.

 

[Mac-7]

Plenty of people at that time recognized evil for what it is.

Yes, and many others didnt

slavery was a practice in virtually every society around the world

and older than any living American at the time

yes most white Americans looked down on black people as inferior

and if you look you can still find that attitude in China or Japan today

or India where darker Indians are looked down on by lighter Indians

old habits are habits to break, but America worked harder at it than almost anyplace else on earth

and this hate for American history coming from the left today is unjustified and harmful to every living American

 

[Correll]

What do you know of Richard Spencer?

As I understand it he is a neo-nazi and white supremacist

but what does that have to with his right to express his opinions?

It was a white supremacist rally.

So fucking what? Does the First Amendment not apply to white supremacists, as well as black supremacists, atheists, radical Hispanic groups, Islamic groups, and radical leftist organizations?

BFD.

It seems you might have not been paying attention, because the big deal is that saying the white supremacist rally had some very fine people might logically be interpreted as an endorsement of white supremacy.

He said that there are "very fine people on both sides." I would also interpret that as a refusal to condemn those radical left-wing and Marxist protesters who who showed up to cause trouble. The same morons who subscribe to an ideology what has been responsible for over 100 million murders throughout history.

Those are not what you'd call "very fine people." In addition, those "very fine people" also most likely support abortion, so add another 50 million to the body county.

imo, he was being diplomatic and overly so.

 

[iceberg]

Some of them are surprisingly well-armed: AR's and AK's, Glocks, and body armor.

the arms race is on

thats why liberals who claim to be for peace should put a end to these nightly riots before it goes too far

It looks that way.

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Promoting terrorism?

not me .... but .... are you on the side of domestic terrorists waving AK47s on the faces of innocent drivers?

That is really kind of funny because normally you all would have no problem and defending the guy with a gun. If you REALLY had a problem with you would have spoken up when armed protesters forced their way into Michigan Statehouse.

that's really funny cause normally you bitch endlessly at the ones with the guns..

apply these things to yourself please.

Says Mr. Hypocrite.

I think it is stupid to carry a gun in a protest, but he didn’t shoot it. The other guy did and some one else in the crowd fired back Mr. Expert.

Go back and listen to the APD briefing. He pointed the AK at the driver. That in itself is reasonable and legal grounds for the use of deadly force.

Hmmm....then someone should have shot the McCloskey’s in St. Louis.

The driver was reported by witnesses as accelerating into the crowd.

under missouri law the mccloskys had every right to shoot the rioters,,,,

They pointed guns at people passing, no riot was occurring. That, according to you, gives some the right to shoot them. Or do you pick and choose?

Does a guy have the right to point his gun at
a car driving into a crowd?

what about fire it? he's already said people are too big a pussy to do anything about him and his AK.

YET you keep defending him with the most fucked up of

Some of them are surprisingly well-armed: AR's and AK's, Glocks, and body armor.

the arms race is on

thats why liberals who claim to be for peace should put a end to these nightly riots before it goes too far

It looks that way.

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Promoting terrorism?

not me .... but .... are you on the side of domestic terrorists waving AK47s on the faces of innocent drivers?

That is really kind of funny because normally you all would have no problem and defending the guy with a gun. If you REALLY had a problem with you would have spoken up when armed protesters forced their way into Michigan Statehouse.

Do you really not know the difference? The Michigan Statehouse protesters were not there in support of left-wing Marxists like their Governor, who ultimately want to ban all firearms.

BLM and antifa are on the side of the Democrats who would, if they could, pass legislation prohibiting the possession of the same weapon Mr. Deaded AK Man was carrying.

what's funny is all the leftists defending the violence til it hits them.

suddenly it's wrong.

Who are “all these leftists” defending violence? I don’t. But I absolutely defend the rights of peaceful protesters.

I think this says more about our gun liberal gun laws than protests. Why where either of them armed?

how many peaceful protesters are out with ak47s and flipping off and attack police stations?

Everyone in Texas goes armed. (Exaggeration but you get the point).

I think it is nuts personally but that is our crazy gun culture.

I love in Texas. born and raised in austin

fuck your stereotype excuse for his bullshit.

Oh put-lease. Cut the crap about stereotypes when you endlessly promote them about the left.

Point is a lot of people are armed. That is choice. Why was the protestors armed? Why was the driver armed?

We have beaten this topic to death without much progress

do you support these endless protests by the anarchists?

if so you are as much responsible for the more than 50 deaths so far as the actual killers themselves

Does that mean Trump is responsible for the death of Heather Heyer and the injury of many other people because he supported the protestors in Charlottesville?

you have a tendency to get pissed when people speculate motivations yet you have zero issue intentionally misconstruing what was said so you can be pissed for your own made up reasons.

fucking old, dude.

what was the actual quote said FULLY and IN CONTEXT you are referring to. here's your chance buckwheat.

Sure as hell looks like you missed the entire point of what I was posting.

The point here is that support for some protestors does not mean support for everyone involved, nor their actions.

Wouldn’t you agree?

ok - maybe i did.

do you think trump said he was supporting white supremacists during that rally when he said there are good people on both sides of the issue?

It was a white supremacy rally, so...

so you are saying you do feel that trump was saying white supremacists are good people, correct?

What I actually believe is that Trump doesn’t know what he’s talking about and said something stupid which made it look like he supports white supremacists when taken on face value.

It was a white supremacist rally, organized and advertised as such.

So I was right. You are going to accuse Trump of bullshit speculation while in the same breath make sure YOU are NOT misconstrued.

Pretty fucking hypocritical dude.

What we know happened is that Trump said there were fine people at a white supremacist rally.

So we can speculate why he said that. What’s so hypocritical about that?

Nothing as long as you don't get pissed we speculate on what you said AND THEN pretend it's true.

It's a fucking lie. You know it but like most of the left want to call it something "less offensive" while you go for MOST Offensive on others.

Like I said, fucking hypocrite. I backed up to let you explain why I was wrong yet you proved my analysis balls on accurate of you.

Good move.

There’s a difference between speculating meaning behind ambiguous statements (which Trump makes often) and misrepresenting what was said.

Besides, you don’t even need to speculate with me, just ask me. We can’t ask Trump.

But whatever. I can’t please you and never will be able to because at the end of the day, you’re just going to believe whatever you wanted to believe anyway. You make all these indignant demands and any attempt to comply is just you ranting and raving like a lunatic.

the issue is you say trump was calling people white supremacists GOOD PEOPLE then run around arguing YOUR SPECULATION is fact. it isn't. it is nothing more than you WILLFULLY being full of shit and then getting all upset when called on it.

very "leftist" of you, btw.

you speculate TO misrepresent what he said. you KNOW he meant good people who simply want the history to remain - THAT WAS IT but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO - you and the fucked up left ONLY allow it to be about white supremacists. it's your narrative.

he asks the doctor if he will be testing certain things in the lab and you and the left run around saying trump said to drink Clorox THAT HE NEVER FUCKING SAID.

so you speculate and willfully misrepresent.

i gave you the benefit of the doubt here earlier when you accused me of not following along with what you said. so no i DID NOT speculate. i backed up and let you tell me yourself that you are in fact, full of shit.

but like you say - you're going to believe what you want. you speculated it true and all and go out and misrepresent people and call them evil for your willfull misrepresentation.

pretty fucked up dude.

 

[Unkotare]

...

and if you look you can still find that attitude in China or Japan today

or India where darker Indians are looked down on by lighter Indians
...

Or anywhere else in the world, including here.

 

[Mac-7]

Or anywhere else in the world, including here.

Less here than most places like communist china

 

[Unkotare]

Or anywhere else in the world, including here.

Less here than most places like communist china

Have you read the posts on this site alone? Did you see that level of racist vitriol when you lived in China?

 

[Crixus]

Fighting to maintain people as property sounds pretty evil to me.

There were more issues involved than just slavery

America was still a work in progress with people still alive from the time of th Constitutional Convention

In the south many people still thought of their state as the ultimate seat of power and where their loyalty belonged

and not every slave state joined the Confederacy

The seat of power they were fighting for was demanding the ability to own slaves, so whether you like it or not, that’s the cause.

You weren't there, you don't know what happened, you're a lying pos.

Honestly, put your self in the shooters position. You are trying to get somewhere, you are scared and frustrated because you have all these white rich kids running around clad in black masks,and one with an AK47 strolls up to your car. I could be wrong, but my common sense would tell me that at a minimum, this guy was going to do something not real good. My common sense says that if I do what this retarded kid did I wold be asking for someone to shoot me. I'll also note how the OP went from a retard dieing of stupidity, to how wrong slavery is, what a fuckheadTrump is, and racism. No "liberal" in this thread would have put up with what the antifa guy did. They would have defended them selves by gun or gas pedal. If you libtards really gave a fuck you would not be sitting home living off unemployment and growing your already fat ass's. You would haul said huge fat ass out and go protest.

 

[miketx]

Fighting to maintain people as property sounds pretty evil to me.

There were more issues involved than just slavery

America was still a work in progress with people still alive from the time of th Constitutional Convention

In the south many people still thought of their state as the ultimate seat of power and where their loyalty belonged

and not every slave state joined the Confederacy

The seat of power they were fighting for was demanding the ability to own slaves, so whether you like it or not, that’s the cause.

You weren't there, you don't know what happened, you're a lying pos.

Honestly, put your self in the shooters position. You are trying to get somewhere, you are scared and frustrated because you have all these white rich kids running around clad in black masks,and one with an AK47 strolls up to your car. I could be wrong, but my common sense would tell me that at a minimum, this guy was going to do something not real good. My common sense says that if I do what this retarded kid did I wold be asking for someone to shoot me. I'll also note how the OP went from a retard dieing of stupidity, to how wrong slavery is, what a fuckheadTrump is, and racism. No "liberal" in this thread would have put up with what the antifa guy did. They would have defended them selves by gun or gas pedal. If you libtards really gave a fuck you would not be sitting home living off unemployment and growing your already fat ass's. You would haul said huge fat ass out and go protest.

Yeah, right, I'm a libtard.

 

[Crixus]

Fighting to maintain people as property sounds pretty evil to me.

There were more issues involved than just slavery

America was still a work in progress with people still alive from the time of th Constitutional Convention

In the south many people still thought of their state as the ultimate seat of power and where their loyalty belonged

and not every slave state joined the Confederacy

The seat of power they were fighting for was demanding the ability to own slaves, so whether you like it or not, that’s the cause.

You weren't there, you don't know what happened, you're a lying pos.

Honestly, put your self in the shooters position. You are trying to get somewhere, you are scared and frustrated because you have all these white rich kids running around clad in black masks,and one with an AK47 strolls up to your car. I could be wrong, but my common sense would tell me that at a minimum, this guy was going to do something not real good. My common sense says that if I do what this retarded kid did I wold be asking for someone to shoot me. I'll also note how the OP went from a retard dieing of stupidity, to how wrong slavery is, what a fuckheadTrump is, and racism. No "liberal" in this thread would have put up with what the antifa guy did. They would have defended them selves by gun or gas pedal. If you libtards really gave a fuck you would not be sitting home living off unemployment and growing your already fat ass's. You would haul said huge fat ass out and go protest.

Yeah, right, I'm a libtard.

Na, you would be the ones doing the shooting, or, if you do see a need to protest, don't walk up to a guys car all strapped up and expect not to get shot. The stuff about liberals here in this thread, I was pointing out how they can't even access the topic. This is because they would have shot this guy to. That, and so far no libtard has posted up any pic's of them selves out there protesting.

 

[Mac-7]

Have you read the posts on this site alone? Did you see that level of racist vitriol when you lived in China?

Racist incidents against Africans in China amid coronavirus crackdown spark outcry

I am not a professional basketball player so I dont have to fear retaliation from the CCP if I criticize china

And there is plenty of reports about chinese racism if you bother to look

 

[Unkotare]

Have you read the posts on this site alone? Did you see that level of racist vitriol when you lived in China?

Racist incidents against Africans in China amid coronavirus crackdown spark outcry

I am not a professional basketball player so I dont have to fear retaliation from the CCP if I criticize china

And there is plenty of reports about chinese racism if you bother to look

Yes, of course there are incidents of racism every place. I asked if you saw the level of racist vitriol too often expressed here when you lived in China.

 

[Mac-7]

Yes, of course there are incidents of racism every place.

Not incidents of racism in china

its widespread and legal

 

[Mac-7]

I asked if you saw the level of racist vitriol too often expressed here when you lived in China.

I have not lived in china

 

[Unkotare]

I asked if you saw the level of racist vitriol too often expressed here when you lived in China.

I have not lived in china

Do you live in America?