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NonesenseWe owe it to the descendents of that history to not marginalize it.
I knowNot many elections in China.
......Floyd was a jackass criminal ...the cop was not trying to kill him..race had nothing to do with itYes, and many others didntPlenty of people at that time recognized evil for what it is.
slavery was a practice in virtually every society around the world
and older than any living American at the time
yes most white Americans looked down on black people as inferior
and if you look you can still find that attitude in China or Japan today
or India where darker Indians are looked down on by lighter Indians
old habits are habits to break, but America worked harder at it than almost anyplace else on earth
and this hate for American history coming from the left today is unjustified and harmful to every living American
Placing the issue of slavery within it's proper context and place in our history is no "hate for American history" - what's hateful is white-washing it.
Now stop that! I agree. How's it go? Them that forget history are doomed to repeat it? We have to see it all so we learn. Judging by the scene today, armed stand off in KC I think it was? People ripping down statues? Folks burning the businesses they need to live life over what? Do t say George Floyd, he played a part in getting him self killed, but what is the chant now? Notice it's not "what's his name"? No advances in race relations will come out of this mess. It will just make it so it's an issue for the election in 2024.
..there is no problem of police brutality
This has been coming for a whileAfter reading up on the guy, he was a fucking moron.
This has been coming for a whileAfter reading up on the guy, he was a fucking moron.
The point is that in the lawless big city culture created by liberals people are being killed for a variety of reasons - or no reason at allFor all you know he could have been assassinated for supporting a Dem.
Sometimes there are some local elections. Not many.I knowNot many elections in China.
in fact there are none despite what michael bloomberg thinks
He was firing at the person point a rifle at him. what would you do?I just watched a video of the shooting.,car honks, 5 AK shots are fired, a second or 2 later 3 pistol shots fired back.As of an hour ago...
Garrett Foster: Police investigate shooting at Austin Black Lives Matter protest
Garrett Foster was pushing his fiancée's wheelchair when he was shot dead by someone in a car.www.bbc.com
Garrett Foster was pushing his fiancée's wheelchair at the protest when a car drove into the crowd, his mother Sheila Foster told US media.As demonstrators approached the car, someone inside the vehicle opened fire on the group.Mr Foster was taken to hospital, but was pronounced dead shortly afterwards. Police have arrested a suspect.
This does not sound like what the OP is presenting.
are you really on the side of violence?
Are you?
Rather than go by a keyboard “expert”, I will wait on the police to give information. Witnesses have said the car accelerated into the crowd. The dead man was legally licensed to carry And had been participating in the demonstrations for 50 days. We do not yet know much about the shooter.
...so...do you have any facts to add?
There's a police statement right in the article.. Not accelerating much with a flat tire.. And you don't get a license to carry a rifle.. The moron shot into a crowd.. The guy in the car had MUCH better training.. What else ya want to know???
The OP article said nothing about a flat tire nor did it include a police statement.
He can still be legally licensed to carry a hand gun and carry a rifle. His rifle was never fired, much less fired into a crowd.
The man firing from the car was firing into a crowd.
Anything else you missed?
do we have an official link to the interview or are we speculating things to be true again?Not what I meant.Not sure what you mean in this context. Slavery was an integral part of our nations history, heritage and economy. Pretending that the Civil War had little to do with slavery is something of a postwar construction. You can’t dissect slavery from it any more then you can untangle it from the confederate flag.What's hateful is constantly attacking other views.Yes, and many others didntPlenty of people at that time recognized evil for what it is.
slavery was a practice in virtually every society around the world
and older than any living American at the time
yes most white Americans looked down on black people as inferior
and if you look you can still find that attitude in China or Japan today
or India where darker Indians are looked down on by lighter Indians
old habits are habits to break, but America worked harder at it than almost anyplace else on earth
and this hate for American history coming from the left today is unjustified and harmful to every living American
Placing the issue of slavery within it's proper context and place in our history is no "hate for American history" - what's hateful is white-washing it.
What is hateful...is things like this textbook they attempted to use in Texas...referring to slaves as immigrant workers.
Texas mom calls out textbook publisher for interpreting slavery as immigration
Book publishing giant McGraw-Hill is saying it will rewrite a textbook after a Texas mother voiced concerns on YouTube about the portrayal of slaves as immigrant "workers" in her son's school book.abc7chicago.com
In any event, there were many forms of slavery and slave owners. Are we going to be able to discuss sll of it, or just the sections chosen and ignore the rest?
Given how the left is busy tearing down history, forgive me if I fail to care about how they feel about textbooks.
Here is the problem as I see it. You are trying to say they are all morally equivalent, and they aren’t. Indentured servitude was not the same as black slavery in the U.S.
Slavery is slavery. Blacks owned slaves, native Americans owned slaves. Slavery is an institution that existed from the beginning of time. To ignore the fact that right now the ONLY active slave trade is in Africa today, renders the current hyperbolic assertions by the woke left ridiculous.
Slavery here, is discussed in relation to our country, our history, and impact it had on us for decades after. The fact that it existed elsewhere, while horrible, is irrelevant. It was integral to the formation and contentious even at it’s federation. To try and point your fingers elsewhere and say but what about...Is really irrelevant. Those what abouts did not affect us.
There was also some peculiarly evil and brutal about our system, and that was tying race into it, and that in order to justify it’s continuity, that race had defined as brutish, inferior, incapable of managing it’s own destiny. That is even after its abolition, those racist barriers remained. There is a very good book I record book I read, on the founding of America’s and it’s history not as one nation really but a collection of culturally different rival nations, thrust together.
American Nations: A History of the Eleven Rival Regional Cultures of North America
If you haven’t read it, I highly recommend it, it is a good read, and you will find yourself thinking as you read...well no wonder we don’t get along
Our peculiar form of slavery came from the British immigrants from Barbados, who immigrated from the sugar plantations to the Deep South, to set themselves up as aristocracy. They weren’t about to let go of slavery, their lifestyle depended on it And it’s continuity depended upon creating the story of racIam inferiority That persists today.
The myth that the USA was created on the backs of slaves is another problem. What made America America was the industrial might of the North.
The slave states lost because they couldn't produce. That is another lie being promulgated.
That being said, the rioters are getting a taste for blood. They have already assassinated a black Trump supporter with nary a peep from the MSM.
Add to that the attacks on cops and if I were living in those shitholes I would be armed at all times whether it's legal or not.
The politicians have basically said you are on your own.
Actually it's in the news but it's not as you guys portray it. He was killed, he was I think homeless, he supported Trump on one side of his placard and a Demo on the other. There is zero evidence he was assassinated or that they even know who did it. For all you know he could have been assassinated for supporting a Dem.
Yeah.. Just a fucking coincidence that it was ONE DAY AFTER the local news interviewed him about his Trump support on the SAME CORNER.... And no. Not clear he was homeless. Article says something about signs at his business...
Oh brother. How many people get political interviews? A hundred? A thousand? Do they get assassinated? One guy gets killed and it's a political assassination.
I could be wrong about homeless.
Oh bullshit excess what? and if excess behavior OKs violence then the left has a shit ton coming.I'd like to read about 10 of these every day.
It would certainly provide clarity to those who don't understand what a mess the left is creating.
Sooner or later the dam breaks.
Have you thought that the mess we're seeing might itself be the damn breaking from far right excess?
Fake news. No one forced anything.Promoting terrorism?Some of them are surprisingly well-armed: AR's and AK's, Glocks, and body armor.
the arms race is on
thats why liberals who claim to be for peace should put a end to these nightly riots before it goes too far
It looks that way.
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not me .... but .... are you on the side of domestic terrorists waving AK47s on the faces of innocent drivers?
That is really kind of funny because normally you all would have no problem and defending the guy with a gun. If you REALLY had a problem with you would have spoken up when armed protesters forced their way into Michigan Statehouse.
I agree someone got scared, like the guy in the car,,but thankfully he stayed in control and was able to kill the dumbass before the guy killed some innocent person,,,They pointed guns at people passing, no riot was occurring. That, according to you, gives some the right to shoot them. Or do you pick and choose?under missouri law the mccloskys had every right to shoot the rioters,,,,Hmmm....then someone should have shot the McCloskey’s in St. Louis.Says Mr. Hypocrite.that's really funny cause normally you bitch endlessly at the ones with the guns..Promoting terrorism?Some of them are surprisingly well-armed: AR's and AK's, Glocks, and body armor.
the arms race is on
thats why liberals who claim to be for peace should put a end to these nightly riots before it goes too far
It looks that way.
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not me .... but .... are you on the side of domestic terrorists waving AK47s on the faces of innocent drivers?
That is really kind of funny because normally you all would have no problem and defending the guy with a gun. If you REALLY had a problem with you would have spoken up when armed protesters forced their way into Michigan Statehouse.
apply these things to yourself please.
I think it is stupid to carry a gun in a protest, but he didn’t shoot it. The other guy did and some one else in the crowd fired back Mr. Expert.
Go back and listen to the APD briefing. He pointed the AK at the driver. That in itself is reasonable and legal grounds for the use of deadly force.
The driver was reported by witnesses as accelerating into the crowd.
Does a guy have the right to point his gun at
a car driving into a crowd?
Not if there are people in the line of fire and he's a lousy shot.. Obviously, that's the case here.
If you're trapped on a highway with a massive protest and folks in the crowd are ARMED, then it's time to take your gun out of the holster.. That's what it's there for...
At this point the police are requesting more information - there isn't certainty, given conflicting witness accounts as to the timing of who did what exactly (except the dead guy did not fire his rifle).
IMO - people got scared, and things went out of control.
when theres over 100 of them and two of you you do what it takes to stop it even if thats pointing your gun at them,,I'm missing when it became okay to threaten someone with a rifle because they honked at you for illegally impeding their travel.
Sure...why not? According to some here it's perfectly fine to wave your rifle around and threaten people.
My husband taught me how to shoot years ago. One of the main rules was you don't ever point it at someone unless you intend to shoot.
The teachers come from the same place as the parents.They didn't. Lazyass parents want the schools to be nanny, teacher, everything. Then they get pissed off.
TrueSometimes there are some local elections. Not many.
I call them libsThese people are not liberals. They are progressives at best, stalinists at worse.
TrueTrueSometimes there are some local elections. Not many.
but local officials have to do whatever the ccp tells
(except the dead guy did not fire his rifle).
You STLL have your "dead guys" mixed up... The OP dead guy definitely did.. Colorado was a highway in the daytime.. The Texas (Austin?) shooting was at night on a city street... BOTH carried AK-47s.. Like I said, the rifle of choice for resistance members and revolutionaries.. Like Westwall...
Uhhhh no....I think I have the right corpses here. I linked to the police remarks on the Austin victim. His gun, AK-47, was not shot. He is the guy in the OP.
You're right. But the discussion at the time was about the Colorado shooting..
Way too many corpses in this thread.
How long does ANY rational person want this to escalate... Your last post
Have you thought that the mess we're seeing might itself be the damn breaking from far right excess?
--- indicates to me you're still in combat mode.. If saner, cooler heads don't prevail, we;ll have to count the bodies and wait 40 years for the victors to write the history.. You STILL up for "the struggle"????
Excessive peace and prosperity.I'd like to read about 10 of these every day.
It would certainly provide clarity to those who don't understand what a mess the left is creating.
Sooner or later the dam breaks.
Have you thought that the mess we're seeing might itself be the damn breaking from far right excess?
What far fight excess would that be ?
Burning federal buildings, defying the law, defunding police ?
Pray tell....give me a hint.
The reality of the CCP is that it holds absolute powerTrue
Another George Soros paid domestic terrorist bites the dust!
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Does anyone have a formula to make them bite the dust faster and by greater numbers?
