Artists hold Confederate flag burnings in 13 Southern states

Um... stop right there.

Confederates were traitors.

Confederates were slave owners.

Confederates were sore losers who went home and brutally mistreated freemen.

Confederates were cowards who rode around at night in sheets brutally murdering families and children.

Confederates went on to become racist segregationists.


You're PROUD to be all those things?


Why are you lying?

Less than one third of SOuthern Families owned slaves. So a large majority of Confederates were NOT slave owners.


Their entire economy was based on slave labor.

Yes, only the wealthy could afford slaves.

However, the poor white trash saw themselves as better than slaves and treated the freemen brutally after the civil war.

No lies.

Just truth.

Suck on it.


1. Which makes your second point about a lie. Confederates were not all slave owners.

2. Almost a third is not just the wealthy. A stupid mistake or another lie?

3. "Poor White Trash"? Kind of a bigoted remark.

4. Why do you feel a need to lie about the Confederacy?
Why do you feel a need to defend a disgusting, racist, completely defeated Confederacy?

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Because the Confederacy is part of our American history.

THose who want to lie about it are smearing the United States of America, and I am a Patriot.
No. It's a part of Confederate history. Real patriots don't support it.

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In the wake of the election of the first black president,

correction, make that first MULATTO pres. OK ?

why are people so against using the proper terminology and truth about his heritage ?
Hmmmm, when he was a candidate, Righties wanted to make him as black as possible....

:asshole:

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When he was a candidate, Righties wanted to point out he was inexperienced and unqualified, and running on nothing but feel good hype.

Who are these "righties" you are talking about?

Was John McCain one of them? Anyone on his staff?
 
Conservatives are butthurt the con flag is burned. Cons love Con flag.

Oh and a reminder to cons: Southern democrats became republicans. Yup, the ones who started slavery and want to disenfranchise minorities are all in the republican party.

Don't believe me? Just look at the minority voting records. As they say, not all cons are racists, but all racists are cons.
Only 3 blue dogs switched party's, Jimmy Carter won the south so It's a myth the older Southern Democrats switched in mass to the Republican party.

The younger southerners born in the 60s started voting republican because only two choices, they wanted manufacturing jobs, they belived in freedom, and all the rest that the Republican party offers. They didn't all switch because of racism.


The idea that the South switched because of racism is an article of Faith with these guys.

NOTHING, certainly not historical facts will shake this belief.

They NEED it to be true to justify their world view of the US as a Racist society where the problems of the black man is the fault of the white guy, and they are the heroes fighting against Evulness.
I know, I don't see racism and segeration down here in the upstate of South Carolina since I moved down here in 2004, it was much worse in the Chicago area, my home town.

I know though today there is still the old mentality down here in places like Mississippi mountains of North Carolina and Virginia, but it's changing

I spent some time in the deep backwoods of Virginia, and did not see racism or segregation either.
I won't agree or disagree, but blacks and Whites get along so much better from my perspective in the south, my black coworkers, neighbors we are so cool with each other, we look after each other
 
Why are you lying?

Less than one third of SOuthern Families owned slaves. So a large majority of Confederates were NOT slave owners.


Their entire economy was based on slave labor.

Yes, only the wealthy could afford slaves.

However, the poor white trash saw themselves as better than slaves and treated the freemen brutally after the civil war.

No lies.

Just truth.

Suck on it.


1. Which makes your second point about a lie. Confederates were not all slave owners.

2. Almost a third is not just the wealthy. A stupid mistake or another lie?

3. "Poor White Trash"? Kind of a bigoted remark.

4. Why do you feel a need to lie about the Confederacy?
Why do you feel a need to defend a disgusting, racist, completely defeated Confederacy?

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Because the Confederacy is part of our American history.

THose who want to lie about it are smearing the United States of America, and I am a Patriot.
No. It's a part of Confederate history. Real patriots don't support it.

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THat doesn't make sense, unless you support the Confederate view that they had the right to leave the Union.

Was it a war to preserve the Union, or a war of conquest and aggression?

If the former, than it was part of the US while it was trying to leave.

And thus, it is part of our history.

Support it?

Pointing out that Hazelnut was lying when he said that Confederates were slave owners, is not supporting the Confederacy.

It is supporting the truth.

Less than a third of Confederate families owned slaves.

Stating that is hardly a ringing endorsement of the Confederacy.
 
Conservatives are butthurt the con flag is burned. Cons love Con flag.

Oh and a reminder to cons: Southern democrats became republicans. Yup, the ones who started slavery and want to disenfranchise minorities are all in the republican party.

Don't believe me? Just look at the minority voting records. As they say, not all cons are racists, but all racists are cons.
Only 3 blue dogs switched party's, Jimmy Carter won the south so It's a myth the older Southern Democrats switched in mass to the Republican party.

The younger southerners born in the 60s started voting republican because only two choices, they wanted manufacturing jobs, they belived in freedom, and all the rest that the Republican party offers. They didn't all switch because of racism.


The idea that the South switched because of racism is an article of Faith with these guys.

NOTHING, certainly not historical facts will shake this belief.

They NEED it to be true to justify their world view of the US as a Racist society where the problems of the black man is the fault of the white guy, and they are the heroes fighting against Evulness.
I know, I don't see racism and segeration down here in the upstate of South Carolina since I moved down here in 2004, it was much worse in the Chicago area, my home town.

I know though today there is still the old mentality down here in places like Mississippi mountains of North Carolina and Virginia, but it's changing

I spent some time in the deep backwoods of Virginia, and did not see racism or segregation either.
I won't agree or disagree, but blacks and Whites get along so much better from my perspective in the south, my black coworkers, neighbors we are so cool with each other, we look after each other


Great, anecdotal evidence to support what...? Nothing.
 
Mulott
In the wake of the election of the first black president,

correction, make that first MULATTO pres. OK ?

why are people so against using the proper terminology and truth about his heritage ?
Mulottos still had to ride the back of the bus

You would think being half white they could ride up front half the time
 
Pointing out that Hazelnut was lying when he said that Confederates were slave owners, is not supporting the Confederacy.

Guess you went to school in a red state with those new funny "history" books -- because the facts is, Confederates were slave owners.

No lies.

Just the facts, Miss, just the facts.
 
I still don't understand why any ****-servative would support confederate flag. It's a part of our history just as slavery and internment and rapes and murders and conquests were. It doesn't mean we "flagg-fy" our atrocities and celebrate them.

The reason to burn con flag is because it is intricately linked to racism and is considered a racist symbol. No one approves of it. Of course if you want to lose support among mass opinion polls, then by all means, bring on the con flag. You will look like an idiot for embracing symbols of past bigotry.
 
Only 3 blue dogs switched party's, Jimmy Carter won the south so It's a myth the older Southern Democrats switched in mass to the Republican party.

The younger southerners born in the 60s started voting republican because only two choices, they wanted manufacturing jobs, they belived in freedom, and all the rest that the Republican party offers. They didn't all switch because of racism.


The idea that the South switched because of racism is an article of Faith with these guys.

NOTHING, certainly not historical facts will shake this belief.

They NEED it to be true to justify their world view of the US as a Racist society where the problems of the black man is the fault of the white guy, and they are the heroes fighting against Evulness.
I know, I don't see racism and segeration down here in the upstate of South Carolina since I moved down here in 2004, it was much worse in the Chicago area, my home town.

I know though today there is still the old mentality down here in places like Mississippi mountains of North Carolina and Virginia, but it's changing

I spent some time in the deep backwoods of Virginia, and did not see racism or segregation either.
I won't agree or disagree, but blacks and Whites get along so much better from my perspective in the south, my black coworkers, neighbors we are so cool with each other, we look after each other


Great, anecdotal evidence to support what...? Nothing.
just posting wisdom, what I experienced living in the Chicago area for 38 years and in South Carolina for the past 12 years, I was never a closed minded person, I always could tell a person by their eyes and not skin color or the way they acted.
 
Conservatives are butthurt the con flag is burned. Cons love Con flag.

Oh and a reminder to cons: Southern democrats became republicans. Yup, the ones who started slavery and want to disenfranchise minorities are all in the republican party.

Don't believe me? Just look at the minority voting records. As they say, not all cons are racists, but all racists are cons.
Only 3 blue dogs switched party's, Jimmy Carter won the south so It's a myth the older Southern Democrats switched in mass to the Republican party.

The younger southerners born in the 60s started voting republican because only two choices, they wanted manufacturing jobs, they belived in freedom, and all the rest that the Republican party offers. They didn't all switch because of racism.


The idea that the South switched because of racism is an article of Faith with these guys.

NOTHING, certainly not historical facts will shake this belief.

They NEED it to be true to justify their world view of the US as a Racist society where the problems of the black man is the fault of the white guy, and they are the heroes fighting against Evulness.
I know, I don't see racism and segeration down here in the upstate of South Carolina since I moved down here in 2004, it was much worse in the Chicago area, my home town.

I know though today there is still the old mentality down here in places like Mississippi mountains of North Carolina and Virginia, but it's changing

I spent some time in the deep backwoods of Virginia, and did not see racism or segregation either.
I won't agree or disagree, but blacks and Whites get along so much better from my perspective in the south, my black coworkers, neighbors we are so cool with each other, we look after each other
I travel all over the South.

You know what blacks and whites call each other, as we hold doors, pass in the aisles of stores, etc?
We call each other Sir and Ma'am.
 
Pointing out that Hazelnut was lying when he said that Confederates were slave owners, is not supporting the Confederacy.

Guess you went to school in a red state with those new funny "history" books -- because the facts is, Confederates were slave owners.

No lies.

Just the facts, Miss, just the facts.
Some Confederates were slaveholders, certainly not all.

Get over it.
 
Only 3 blue dogs switched party's, Jimmy Carter won the south so It's a myth the older Southern Democrats switched in mass to the Republican party.

The younger southerners born in the 60s started voting republican because only two choices, they wanted manufacturing jobs, they belived in freedom, and all the rest that the Republican party offers. They didn't all switch because of racism.


The idea that the South switched because of racism is an article of Faith with these guys.

NOTHING, certainly not historical facts will shake this belief.

They NEED it to be true to justify their world view of the US as a Racist society where the problems of the black man is the fault of the white guy, and they are the heroes fighting against Evulness.
I know, I don't see racism and segeration down here in the upstate of South Carolina since I moved down here in 2004, it was much worse in the Chicago area, my home town.

I know though today there is still the old mentality down here in places like Mississippi mountains of North Carolina and Virginia, but it's changing

I spent some time in the deep backwoods of Virginia, and did not see racism or segregation either.
I won't agree or disagree, but blacks and Whites get along so much better from my perspective in the south, my black coworkers, neighbors we are so cool with each other, we look after each other
I travel all over the South.

You know what blacks and white call each other, as we hold doors, pass in the aisles of stores, etc?
We call each other Sir and Ma'am.
yes we do

Thanks for that post
 
So, the First Amendment protects this king of thing. But why would you do this knowing you are going to invoke a response?



Isn't that the line nutcases like you used with the cartoon convention?
 
So, the First Amendment protects this king of thing. But why would you do this knowing you are going to invoke a response?



Isn't that the line nutcases like you used with the cartoon convention?
I was in 5 Southern states this week, didn't hear about it until USMB nuts posted on the flag burnings.

I'd like to invite any artist who cares to down to Warner-Robbins SCV office to burn some flags.
 
The Confederate flag is a beautiful flag.......a bold flag.

It represents man's quest for freedom from government excess.

It is the flag of independence.

It is the flag of unfettered optimism.

It represents family and duty and honor.

Basically, a cloth symbol of all that is good and decent in mankind. ...... :cool:
 
The Confederate flag is a beautiful flag.......a bold flag.

It represents man's quest for freedom from government excess.
...

Except if you were one of the near four million slaves put up on auction blocks like cattle.
 
The Confederate flag is a beautiful flag.......a bold flag.

It represents man's quest for freedom from government excess.
...

Except if you were one of the near four million slaves put up on auction blocks like cattle.
can you find one alive today? Yea my Christian brothers died century's ago living in catacombs under Rome

What a stupid response. Yeah screwball -- people who lived 150 years ago are no longer living. Did you need that explained to you?

When the Confederacy died, so should of it's flag.

Flag of White Supremacy, traitors

-- and losers.
 
black-confederates.jpg

Thats a fake picture you know?

Notice how they cropped out the White Union Officer?

25th_United_States_Colored_Troops_mistaken_for_Louisiana_Native_Guards.jpg

Whoever cropped out that white officer was wrong to do so.

BUt the presence of a white officer does not disprove or really affect Sunni's point at all.


Those blacks served in the Confederate forces. A quick look at wikepeida doesn't make it clear whether they saw actual combat, but they certainly served.



So what?

What does that have to do with today and how African Americans feel about that flag today?

Just because some bigots still want slavery in the south doesn't mean that everyone believes that, much less African Americans.

Why not debate the subject instead of trying to change the subject?

The vast majority of the people in America see that flag as a vile symbol of slavery and all that came with it.

You can't dispute that fact so you're trying to change the subject.

Which is something only a coward does.
 

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