As a Jew this is hard for me to explain

[watchingfromafar]

I gotta run. Not sure if I will get a chance to carry this on as I am leaving for Alaska in a couple of days.

I too wish you and yours a great trip
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[LittleNipper]

America hasn't always been a paradise for Jews.

Within my lifetime, it was still legal to not rent or sell property to Jews. Real estate ads in New York City contained the phrase 'Only Gentiles Need Apply'.

Companies could discriminate against Jews in hiring. Large firms made it policy to not hire Jews.

Hotel chains across America were openly restricted to potential guests with 'Jewish-sounding' surnames.

You couldn't join many country or social clubs if you were Jewish.

In 1930s America, this man, Charles Coughlin, had a network radio show espousing anti-semitic rhetoric to millions of listeners.

In the 1920s, this was a nation-wide best-seller

Israel is the only country on the face of this Earth where Jews are not the 'guests' of a host nation.

It's sad that there has to be at least one place where Jews can be autonomous, but history has shown, over and over again, that it is existentially necessary that Israel exist.

l'd have to suggest simply to join the club. It isn't easy being a Bible Believing Christian either. For one there is American Atheists founded by Madalyn Murray O'Hair in 1963. There is the ACLU that is no friend to public displays that are particularly Christian in the public arena or ponder even the concept of GOD or Bible clubs. And there is the LGBT that believes it can get in everyone's face and are working to limit even Bible text which it finds detrimental to their agenda.

 

[Indeependent]

like all the other prophets, tells of the eventual return of the Jews to God.

American Jews have found their Promised Land in the USA, Israeli's have found their savior in the devil-
bow before me you minions
slay the baby and bring it before me
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Pure Communism failed.
Pure Fascism failed.
Pure Socialism failed.
Pure Capitalism is failed.
Because Judaism is the proper mixture of the above.

 

[Indeependent]

America hasn't always been a paradise for Jews.

Within my lifetime, it was still legal to not rent or sell property to Jews. Real estate ads in New York City contained the phrase 'Only Gentiles Need Apply'.

Companies could discriminate against Jews in hiring. Large firms made it policy to not hire Jews.

Hotel chains across America were openly restricted to potential guests with 'Jewish-sounding' surnames.

You couldn't join many country or social clubs if you were Jewish.

In 1930s America, this man, Charles Coughlin, had a network radio show espousing anti-semitic rhetoric to millions of listeners.

In the 1920s, this was a nation-wide best-seller

Israel is the only country on the face of this Earth where Jews are not the 'guests' of a host nation.

It's sad that there has to be at least one place where Jews can be autonomous, but history has shown, over and over again, that it is existentially necessary that Israel exist.

l'd have to suggest simply to join the club. It isn't easy being a Bible Believing Christian either. For one there is American Atheists founded by Madalyn Murray O'Hair in 1963. There is the ACLU that is no friend to public displays that are particularly Christian in the public arena or ponder even the concept of GOD or Bible clubs. And there is the LGBT that believes it can get in everyone's face and are working to limit even Bible text which it finds detrimental to their agenda.

One good Torah lecture and you’ll drop Christianity like a bowling ball.

 

[fncceo]

America hasn't always been a paradise for Jews.

Within my lifetime, it was still legal to not rent or sell property to Jews. Real estate ads in New York City contained the phrase 'Only Gentiles Need Apply'.

Companies could discriminate against Jews in hiring. Large firms made it policy to not hire Jews.

Hotel chains across America were openly restricted to potential guests with 'Jewish-sounding' surnames.

You couldn't join many country or social clubs if you were Jewish.

In 1930s America, this man, Charles Coughlin, had a network radio show espousing anti-semitic rhetoric to millions of listeners.

In the 1920s, this was a nation-wide best-seller

Israel is the only country on the face of this Earth where Jews are not the 'guests' of a host nation.

It's sad that there has to be at least one place where Jews can be autonomous, but history has shown, over and over again, that it is existentially necessary that Israel exist.

l'd have to suggest simply to join the club. It isn't easy being a Bible Believing Christian either. For one there is American Atheists founded by Madalyn Murray O'Hair in 1963. There is the ACLU that is no friend to public displays that are particularly Christian in the public arena or ponder even the concept of GOD or Bible clubs. And there is the LGBT that believes it can get in everyone's face and are working to limit even Bible text which it finds detrimental to their agenda.

You don't understand. When people rant and rail against Jews. It's not about what Jews believe. The hold religious Jews and secular Jews equally in contempt.

If you truly think there is an equivalent between what Jews have had to endure versus the tribulation of being one particular branch of the 500 or so different xtian denominations...

... well, I truly envy your naivete.

 

[fncceo]

America hasn't always been a paradise for Jews.

Within my lifetime, it was still legal to not rent or sell property to Jews. Real estate ads in New York City contained the phrase 'Only Gentiles Need Apply'.

Companies could discriminate against Jews in hiring. Large firms made it policy to not hire Jews.

Hotel chains across America were openly restricted to potential guests with 'Jewish-sounding' surnames.

You couldn't join many country or social clubs if you were Jewish.

In 1930s America, this man, Charles Coughlin, had a network radio show espousing anti-semitic rhetoric to millions of listeners.

In the 1920s, this was a nation-wide best-seller

Israel is the only country on the face of this Earth where Jews are not the 'guests' of a host nation.

It's sad that there has to be at least one place where Jews can be autonomous, but history has shown, over and over again, that it is existentially necessary that Israel exist.

l'd have to suggest simply to join the club. It isn't easy being a Bible Believing Christian either. For one there is American Atheists founded by Madalyn Murray O'Hair in 1963. There is the ACLU that is no friend to public displays that are particularly Christian in the public arena or ponder even the concept of GOD or Bible clubs. And there is the LGBT that believes it can get in everyone's face and are working to limit even Bible text which it finds detrimental to their agenda.

One good Torah lecture and you’ll drop Christianity like a bowling ball.

Why on Earth would you want anyone to drop xtianity? I believe that it's the perfect religion, for them.

 

[Ria_Longhorn]

Will you promise to stop drinking. This thread is odd. Are you pro or Anti Israel?

This is not about being “pro” or “anti” Israel.

You must first clarify your question.

Are you talking about the Israeli Jews occupying a large chunk of Palestine-?

Or the boundaries of this land now referred to as “Israel”-?

What do you mean by the term “anti”-?
Besides; "Israel" was a person; not a place

Just asking -

watchingfromafar wote:
" . . . 'Israel' was a person, not a place"
= = = = = = = =
Ria_Longhorn replies:

The New Testament says, "Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea," (Matthew 2:1) and that his father, "took the young child [Jesus] and his mother, and came into the land of Israel." (Matthew 2:21)

The New Testament says, "That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel." -- Ephesians 2:12

Get a clue, your New Testament says Israel was a place, not a person.

 

[fncceo]

Will you promise to stop drinking. This thread is odd. Are you pro or Anti Israel?

This is not about being “pro” or “anti” Israel.

You must first clarify your question.

Are you talking about the Israeli Jews occupying a large chunk of Palestine-?

Or the boundaries of this land now referred to as “Israel”-?

What do you mean by the term “anti”-?
Besides; "Israel" was a person; not a place

Just asking -

watchingfromafar wote:
" . . . 'Israel' was a person, not a place"
= = = = = = = =
Ria_Longhorn replies:

The New Testament says, "Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea," (Matthew 2:1) and that his father, "took the young child [Jesus] and his mother, and came into the land of Israel." (Matthew 2:21)

The New Testament says, "That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel." -- Ephesians 2:12

Get a clue, your New Testament says Israel was a place, not a person.

The new what?

 

[Ria_Longhorn]

“Palestine” is a territory like North America. There is no and was never a state or country called Palestine. You’re welcome for the education.

Joel 3:4 |

Yea and what haue ye to do with me, O Tyre and Zidon, and all the coasts of Palestine? will ye render mee a recompence? and if ye recompense me, swiftly and speedily will I returne your recompense vpon your owne head.

4 Yea, and what have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Zidon, and all the coasts of Palestine? will ye render me a recompence? and if ye recompense me, swiftly [and] speedily will I return your recompence upon your own head;

Judea - Wikipedia

Borders of Mandatory Palestine

Palestine usually refers to:

Palestine (region), a geographical and historical region in the Middle East

State of Palestine, a modern de jure sovereign state in the Middle East recognized by 136 UN members and with non-member observer state status in the United Nations

Palestine, Palaestina, or Filastin may also refer to:

Historical political entities

Syria Palaestina or Roman Palestine, a Roman province (135–390 CE), a province of the Roman Empire following merger of renamed Iudaea with Roman Syria

Palaestina Prima, a Byzantine province in the Levant from 390 to c. 636, comprising the Galilee and northern Jordan Valley

Palaestina Secunda, a Byzantine province in the Levant from 390 to c. 636, comprising the shoreline and hills of the Southern Levant (Judea and Samaria)

Palaestina Salutaris alias Palestina Tertia, a Byzantine province established in the 6th century, covering the Negev and Transjordan

Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem or Palestine (1872–1917), an Ottoman district that encompassed Jerusalem, Gaza, Jaffa, Hebron, Bethlehem and Beersheba

Mandatory Palestine (1920–1948), a geopolitical entity under British administration

Palestine - Wikipedia


On the other hand, Israel did not exist unto 1947ad


View attachment 269317 View attachment 269318

I looked and looked and looked but Israel could not be found

Then low and behold I found it, only it's not an it; it's a he
King James Bible
And God said unto him, Thy name is Jacob: thy name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and he called his name Israel.

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Mistranslations for Philistia.

The 9th Century BCE Mesha Stele, that mentions Israel, came way before Palestina prima, Palestina secunda, Palestina tertia, or Palestina extremo.

 

[Indeependent]

Will you promise to stop drinking. This thread is odd. Are you pro or Anti Israel?

This is not about being “pro” or “anti” Israel.

You must first clarify your question.

Are you talking about the Israeli Jews occupying a large chunk of Palestine-?

Or the boundaries of this land now referred to as “Israel”-?

What do you mean by the term “anti”-?
Besides; "Israel" was a person; not a place

Just asking -

watchingfromafar wote:
" . . . 'Israel' was a person, not a place"
= = = = = = = =
Ria_Longhorn replies:

The New Testament says, "Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea," (Matthew 2:1) and that his father, "took the young child [Jesus] and his mother, and came into the land of Israel." (Matthew 2:21)

The New Testament says, "That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel." -- Ephesians 2:12

Get a clue, your New Testament says Israel was a place, not a person.

Yisroel was Yaakov’s superior name.
The Land of Yisroel is Jacob’s land.

 

[Indeependent]

“Palestine” is a territory like North America. There is no and was never a state or country called Palestine. You’re welcome for the education.

Joel 3:4 |

Yea and what haue ye to do with me, O Tyre and Zidon, and all the coasts of Palestine? will ye render mee a recompence? and if ye recompense me, swiftly and speedily will I returne your recompense vpon your owne head.

4 Yea, and what have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Zidon, and all the coasts of Palestine? will ye render me a recompence? and if ye recompense me, swiftly [and] speedily will I return your recompence upon your own head;

Judea - Wikipedia

Borders of Mandatory Palestine

Palestine usually refers to:

Palestine (region), a geographical and historical region in the Middle East

State of Palestine, a modern de jure sovereign state in the Middle East recognized by 136 UN members and with non-member observer state status in the United Nations

Palestine, Palaestina, or Filastin may also refer to:

Historical political entities

Syria Palaestina or Roman Palestine, a Roman province (135–390 CE), a province of the Roman Empire following merger of renamed Iudaea with Roman Syria

Palaestina Prima, a Byzantine province in the Levant from 390 to c. 636, comprising the Galilee and northern Jordan Valley

Palaestina Secunda, a Byzantine province in the Levant from 390 to c. 636, comprising the shoreline and hills of the Southern Levant (Judea and Samaria)

Palaestina Salutaris alias Palestina Tertia, a Byzantine province established in the 6th century, covering the Negev and Transjordan

Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem or Palestine (1872–1917), an Ottoman district that encompassed Jerusalem, Gaza, Jaffa, Hebron, Bethlehem and Beersheba

Mandatory Palestine (1920–1948), a geopolitical entity under British administration

Palestine - Wikipedia


On the other hand, Israel did not exist unto 1947ad


View attachment 269317 View attachment 269318

I looked and looked and looked but Israel could not be found

Then low and behold I found it, only it's not an it; it's a he
King James Bible
And God said unto him, Thy name is Jacob: thy name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and he called his name Israel.

-

Mistranslations for Philistia.

The 9th Century BCE Mesha Stele, that mentions Israel, came way before Palestina prima, Palestina secunda, Palestina tertia, or Palestina extremo.

WFA has learned well from his self-hating Jewish web sites.

 

[Ria_Longhorn]

I guess Jew haters will be happy.

I believe you are misusing the term “Jew”. There are God abiding Jews who treat others equally as they would treat themselves. And there are stone hearted hating Israeli’s who believe they are the ones chosen to rule over everyone else while treating the Palestinians as sub-human.

There are “Jews” and there are “Israeli’s” & they are as far about as the moon is to our earth.

The Jews are and will remain one among the rest of us for all time to come.

The Israeli’s will fade away and will no more be remembered.
And so it was written
32 Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.

The truth is that the more observant Jews though a minority are needed for the Jews to continue to exist as a people.

Americans are a mosaic of many different people who care for the neighbor regardless of where they came from. If you cannot comprehend this; you to will cease to exist as well.
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watchingfromafar wrote:
"There are 'Jews' and there are 'Israelis' & they are as far about as the moon is to our earth. The Jews are and will remain one among the rest of us for all time to come. [emphasis mine]"
= = = = = = = =

Ria_Longhorn replies:

You just blew your cover. You're gentile. Why the need to lie about being Jewish?

 

[Slyhunter]

As a Jew this is hard for me to explain

I’m 70 living in 2019ad. For those who didn’t know-------

“ad” means; The years “After Jesus’s death”.,.i.e. (ad)

2,019 years ago;.,.,,.,, Jesus walked the streets of Jerusalem

And He knew “Jerusalem” was not the “Promised Land”

Now over 2,000 years later I have found it.

The “Promised Land “ turns out to be-----

No,
It's not--
the Palestinian Land
now called “Israel”
But
The
“United States of America”
.,.,aka.,.,
USA
The United States​

And as an American, I consider a Jewish American to be just “an American” or a “Jewish American”.

But more importantly; I as an American; I view a Jew as a Jewish person. I view Jews who live in or born in “Israel” as Israelite’s; not a “Jew”, although they are from the same family.

there is a difference

No harm intended or implied

If I have offended, you

Please forgive me -

Ok?

Why do you and your ilk vote for Democrats?

 

[Ria_Longhorn]

We serve God; a very difficult task.

How do you know you're not worshiping Satan?

He has a different address.

Not according to your faith he doesn't.

You don't know anything about my faith ... just what your friends over at Stormfront tell you.

So you don't believe that satan is an angel who works for God?

Do Jews Believe in Satan? | My Jewish Learning

Not exactly stormfront. I hope you aren't so disappointed that you don't fall off of your high horse.

From your link:

"In Tractate Bava Batra, Reish Lakish says that the Satan, the yetzer hara [evil inclination] and the Angel of Death are all one. Maimondies, the medieval Jewish philosopher, endorses this position in his Guide for the Perplexed. ... Maimondies seems not to believe Satan actually exists, but rather that he is a symbol of the inclination to sin."

 

[Ria_Longhorn]

We haven't forgotten G-D.

He keeps reminding us He hasn't forgotten us.

It is this, not forgetting, by the Jewish People, that made me a believer.

 

[Slyhunter]

We haven't forgotten G-D.

He keeps reminding us He hasn't forgotten us.

It is this, not forgetting, by the Jewish People, that made me a believer.

Sorry, I must've missed the memo?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

As a Jew this is hard for me to explain

I’m 70 living in 2019ad. For those who didn’t know-------

“ad” means; The years “After Jesus’s death”.,.i.e. (ad)

2,019 years ago;.,.,,.,, Jesus walked the streets of Jerusalem

And He knew “Jerusalem” was not the “Promised Land”

Now over 2,000 years later I have found it.

The “Promised Land “ turns out to be-----

No,
It's not--
the Palestinian Land
now called “Israel”
But
The
“United States of America”
.,.,aka.,.,
USA
The United States​

And as an American, I consider a Jewish American to be just “an American” or a “Jewish American”.

But more importantly; I as an American; I view a Jew as a Jewish person. I view Jews who live in or born in “Israel” as Israelite’s; not a “Jew”, although they are from the same family.

there is a difference

No harm intended or implied

If I have offended, you

Please forgive me -

Ok?

Why do you and your ilk vote for Democrats?

Because they thought they would be better for them. But they were wrong. Hell my parents were for 40 yrs

 

[ding]

Verse 1:2...

And?

Commence...
What does it say and what is God’s message?

You tell me.

 

[Mindful]

We haven't forgotten G-D.

He keeps reminding us He hasn't forgotten us.

It is this, not forgetting, by the Jewish People, that made me a believer.

What do you believe?

 

[watchingfromafar]

WFA has learned well from his self-hating Jewish web sites.

Is this the best you can do?

I don’t “hate” anyone or anything and I am sure the word “hate” is not a word in the Lord’s vocabulary.

One the other hand I do detest, reject and loath those who hide behind the “Jew” word almost as much as I detest, reject and loath Israel Defense force snipers shooting children in the head as they sat in a UN sponsored classroom chair.
Not just one child but dozens
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