watchingfromafar
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I gotta run. Not sure if I will get a chance to carry this on as I am leaving for Alaska in a couple of days.
I too wish you and yours a great trip
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I gotta run. Not sure if I will get a chance to carry this on as I am leaving for Alaska in a couple of days.
l'd have to suggest simply to join the club. It isn't easy being a Bible Believing Christian either. For one there is American Atheists founded by Madalyn Murray O'Hair in 1963. There is the ACLU that is no friend to public displays that are particularly Christian in the public arena or ponder even the concept of GOD or Bible clubs. And there is the LGBT that believes it can get in everyone's face and are working to limit even Bible text which it finds detrimental to their agenda.America hasn't always been a paradise for Jews.
Within my lifetime, it was still legal to not rent or sell property to Jews. Real estate ads in New York City contained the phrase 'Only Gentiles Need Apply'.
Companies could discriminate against Jews in hiring. Large firms made it policy to not hire Jews.
Hotel chains across America were openly restricted to potential guests with 'Jewish-sounding' surnames.
You couldn't join many country or social clubs if you were Jewish.
In 1930s America, this man, Charles Coughlin, had a network radio show espousing anti-semitic rhetoric to millions of listeners.
In the 1920s, this was a nation-wide best-seller
Israel is the only country on the face of this Earth where Jews are not the 'guests' of a host nation.
It's sad that there has to be at least one place where Jews can be autonomous, but history has shown, over and over again, that it is existentially necessary that Israel exist.
Pure Communism failed.American Jews have found their Promised Land in the USA, Israeli's have found their savior in the devil-like all the other prophets, tells of the eventual return of the Jews to God.
bow before me you minions
slay the baby and bring it before me
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One good Torah lecture and you’ll drop Christianity like a bowling ball.l'd have to suggest simply to join the club. It isn't easy being a Bible Believing Christian either. For one there is American Atheists founded by Madalyn Murray O'Hair in 1963. There is the ACLU that is no friend to public displays that are particularly Christian in the public arena or ponder even the concept of GOD or Bible clubs. And there is the LGBT that believes it can get in everyone's face and are working to limit even Bible text which it finds detrimental to their agenda.America hasn't always been a paradise for Jews.
Within my lifetime, it was still legal to not rent or sell property to Jews. Real estate ads in New York City contained the phrase 'Only Gentiles Need Apply'.
Companies could discriminate against Jews in hiring. Large firms made it policy to not hire Jews.
Hotel chains across America were openly restricted to potential guests with 'Jewish-sounding' surnames.
You couldn't join many country or social clubs if you were Jewish.
In 1930s America, this man, Charles Coughlin, had a network radio show espousing anti-semitic rhetoric to millions of listeners.
In the 1920s, this was a nation-wide best-seller
Israel is the only country on the face of this Earth where Jews are not the 'guests' of a host nation.
It's sad that there has to be at least one place where Jews can be autonomous, but history has shown, over and over again, that it is existentially necessary that Israel exist.
l'd have to suggest simply to join the club. It isn't easy being a Bible Believing Christian either. For one there is American Atheists founded by Madalyn Murray O'Hair in 1963. There is the ACLU that is no friend to public displays that are particularly Christian in the public arena or ponder even the concept of GOD or Bible clubs. And there is the LGBT that believes it can get in everyone's face and are working to limit even Bible text which it finds detrimental to their agenda.America hasn't always been a paradise for Jews.
Within my lifetime, it was still legal to not rent or sell property to Jews. Real estate ads in New York City contained the phrase 'Only Gentiles Need Apply'.
Companies could discriminate against Jews in hiring. Large firms made it policy to not hire Jews.
Hotel chains across America were openly restricted to potential guests with 'Jewish-sounding' surnames.
You couldn't join many country or social clubs if you were Jewish.
In 1930s America, this man, Charles Coughlin, had a network radio show espousing anti-semitic rhetoric to millions of listeners.
In the 1920s, this was a nation-wide best-seller
Israel is the only country on the face of this Earth where Jews are not the 'guests' of a host nation.
It's sad that there has to be at least one place where Jews can be autonomous, but history has shown, over and over again, that it is existentially necessary that Israel exist.
One good Torah lecture and you’ll drop Christianity like a bowling ball.l'd have to suggest simply to join the club. It isn't easy being a Bible Believing Christian either. For one there is American Atheists founded by Madalyn Murray O'Hair in 1963. There is the ACLU that is no friend to public displays that are particularly Christian in the public arena or ponder even the concept of GOD or Bible clubs. And there is the LGBT that believes it can get in everyone's face and are working to limit even Bible text which it finds detrimental to their agenda.America hasn't always been a paradise for Jews.
Within my lifetime, it was still legal to not rent or sell property to Jews. Real estate ads in New York City contained the phrase 'Only Gentiles Need Apply'.
Companies could discriminate against Jews in hiring. Large firms made it policy to not hire Jews.
Hotel chains across America were openly restricted to potential guests with 'Jewish-sounding' surnames.
You couldn't join many country or social clubs if you were Jewish.
In 1930s America, this man, Charles Coughlin, had a network radio show espousing anti-semitic rhetoric to millions of listeners.
In the 1920s, this was a nation-wide best-seller
Israel is the only country on the face of this Earth where Jews are not the 'guests' of a host nation.
It's sad that there has to be at least one place where Jews can be autonomous, but history has shown, over and over again, that it is existentially necessary that Israel exist.
This is not about being “pro” or “anti” Israel.Will you promise to stop drinking. This thread is odd. Are you pro or Anti Israel?
You must first clarify your question.
Are you talking about the Israeli Jews occupying a large chunk of Palestine-?
Or the boundaries of this land now referred to as “Israel”-?
What do you mean by the term “anti”-?
Besides; "Israel" was a person; not a place
Just asking -
This is not about being “pro” or “anti” Israel.Will you promise to stop drinking. This thread is odd. Are you pro or Anti Israel?
You must first clarify your question.
Are you talking about the Israeli Jews occupying a large chunk of Palestine-?
Or the boundaries of this land now referred to as “Israel”-?
What do you mean by the term “anti”-?
Besides; "Israel" was a person; not a place
Just asking -
watchingfromafar wote:
" . . . 'Israel' was a person, not a place"
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Ria_Longhorn replies:
The New Testament says, "Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea," (Matthew 2:1) and that his father, "took the young child [Jesus] and his mother, and came into the land of Israel." (Matthew 2:21)
The New Testament says, "That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel." -- Ephesians 2:12
Get a clue, your New Testament says Israel was a place, not a person.
Joel 3:4 |“Palestine” is a territory like North America. There is no and was never a state or country called Palestine. You’re welcome for the education.
Yea and what haue ye to do with me, O Tyre and Zidon, and all the coasts of Palestine? will ye render mee a recompence? and if ye recompense me, swiftly and speedily will I returne your recompense vpon your owne head.
4 Yea, and what have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Zidon, and all the coasts of Palestine? will ye render me a recompence? and if ye recompense me, swiftly [and] speedily will I return your recompence upon your own head;
Judea - Wikipedia
Borders of Mandatory Palestine
Palestine usually refers to:
Palestine (region), a geographical and historical region in the Middle East
State of Palestine, a modern de jure sovereign state in the Middle East recognized by 136 UN members and with non-member observer state status in the United Nations
Palestine, Palaestina, or Filastin may also refer to:
Historical political entities
Syria Palaestina or Roman Palestine, a Roman province (135–390 CE), a province of the Roman Empire following merger of renamed Iudaea with Roman Syria
Palaestina Prima, a Byzantine province in the Levant from 390 to c. 636, comprising the Galilee and northern Jordan Valley
Palaestina Secunda, a Byzantine province in the Levant from 390 to c. 636, comprising the shoreline and hills of the Southern Levant (Judea and Samaria)
Palaestina Salutaris alias Palestina Tertia, a Byzantine province established in the 6th century, covering the Negev and Transjordan
Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem or Palestine (1872–1917), an Ottoman district that encompassed Jerusalem, Gaza, Jaffa, Hebron, Bethlehem and Beersheba
Mandatory Palestine (1920–1948), a geopolitical entity under British administration
Palestine - Wikipedia
On the other hand, Israel did not exist unto 1947ad
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I looked and looked and looked but Israel could not be found
Then low and behold I found it, only it's not an it; it's a he
King James Bible
And God said unto him, Thy name is Jacob: thy name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and he called his name Israel.
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Yisroel was Yaakov’s superior name.This is not about being “pro” or “anti” Israel.Will you promise to stop drinking. This thread is odd. Are you pro or Anti Israel?
You must first clarify your question.
Are you talking about the Israeli Jews occupying a large chunk of Palestine-?
Or the boundaries of this land now referred to as “Israel”-?
What do you mean by the term “anti”-?
Besides; "Israel" was a person; not a place
Just asking -
watchingfromafar wote:
" . . . 'Israel' was a person, not a place"
= = = = = = = =
Ria_Longhorn replies:
The New Testament says, "Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea," (Matthew 2:1) and that his father, "took the young child [Jesus] and his mother, and came into the land of Israel." (Matthew 2:21)
The New Testament says, "That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel." -- Ephesians 2:12
Get a clue, your New Testament says Israel was a place, not a person.
WFA has learned well from his self-hating Jewish web sites.Joel 3:4 |“Palestine” is a territory like North America. There is no and was never a state or country called Palestine. You’re welcome for the education.
Yea and what haue ye to do with me, O Tyre and Zidon, and all the coasts of Palestine? will ye render mee a recompence? and if ye recompense me, swiftly and speedily will I returne your recompense vpon your owne head.
4 Yea, and what have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Zidon, and all the coasts of Palestine? will ye render me a recompence? and if ye recompense me, swiftly [and] speedily will I return your recompence upon your own head;
Judea - Wikipedia
Borders of Mandatory Palestine
Palestine usually refers to:
Palestine (region), a geographical and historical region in the Middle East
State of Palestine, a modern de jure sovereign state in the Middle East recognized by 136 UN members and with non-member observer state status in the United Nations
Palestine, Palaestina, or Filastin may also refer to:
Historical political entities
Syria Palaestina or Roman Palestine, a Roman province (135–390 CE), a province of the Roman Empire following merger of renamed Iudaea with Roman Syria
Palaestina Prima, a Byzantine province in the Levant from 390 to c. 636, comprising the Galilee and northern Jordan Valley
Palaestina Secunda, a Byzantine province in the Levant from 390 to c. 636, comprising the shoreline and hills of the Southern Levant (Judea and Samaria)
Palaestina Salutaris alias Palestina Tertia, a Byzantine province established in the 6th century, covering the Negev and Transjordan
Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem or Palestine (1872–1917), an Ottoman district that encompassed Jerusalem, Gaza, Jaffa, Hebron, Bethlehem and Beersheba
Mandatory Palestine (1920–1948), a geopolitical entity under British administration
Palestine - Wikipedia
On the other hand, Israel did not exist unto 1947ad
View attachment 269317 View attachment 269318
I looked and looked and looked but Israel could not be found
Then low and behold I found it, only it's not an it; it's a he
King James Bible
And God said unto him, Thy name is Jacob: thy name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and he called his name Israel.
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Mistranslations for Philistia.
The 9th Century BCE Mesha Stele, that mentions Israel, came way before Palestina prima, Palestina secunda, Palestina tertia, or Palestina extremo.
I guess Jew haters will be happy.
I believe you are misusing the term “Jew”. There are God abiding Jews who treat others equally as they would treat themselves. And there are stone hearted hating Israeli’s who believe they are the ones chosen to rule over everyone else while treating the Palestinians as sub-human.
There are “Jews” and there are “Israeli’s” & they are as far about as the moon is to our earth.
The Jews are and will remain one among the rest of us for all time to come.
The Israeli’s will fade away and will no more be remembered.
And so it was written
32 Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.
Americans are a mosaic of many different people who care for the neighbor regardless of where they came from. If you cannot comprehend this; you to will cease to exist as well.The truth is that the more observant Jews though a minority are needed for the Jews to continue to exist as a people.
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Why do you and your ilk vote for Democrats?As a Jew this is hard for me to explain
I’m 70 living in 2019ad. For those who didn’t know-------
“ad” means; The years “After Jesus’s death”.,.i.e. (ad)
2,019 years ago;.,.,,.,, Jesus walked the streets of Jerusalem
And He knew “Jerusalem” was not the “Promised Land”
Now over 2,000 years later I have found it.
The “Promised Land “ turns out to be-----
No,
It's not--
the Palestinian Land
now called “Israel”
But
The
“United States of America”
.,.,aka.,.,
USA
The United States
And as an American, I consider a Jewish American to be just “an American” or a “Jewish American”.
But more importantly; I as an American; I view a Jew as a Jewish person. I view Jews who live in or born in “Israel” as Israelite’s; not a “Jew”, although they are from the same family.
there is a difference
No harm intended or implied
If I have offended, you
Please forgive me -
Ok?
So you don't believe that satan is an angel who works for God?Not according to your faith he doesn't.We serve God; a very difficult task.
How do you know you're not worshiping Satan?
He has a different address.
You don't know anything about my faith ... just what your friends over at Stormfront tell you.
Do Jews Believe in Satan? | My Jewish Learning
Not exactly stormfront. I hope you aren't so disappointed that you don't fall off of your high horse.
We haven't forgotten G-D.
He keeps reminding us He hasn't forgotten us.
Sorry, I must've missed the memo?We haven't forgotten G-D.
He keeps reminding us He hasn't forgotten us.
It is this, not forgetting, by the Jewish People, that made me a believer.
Why do you and your ilk vote for Democrats?As a Jew this is hard for me to explain
I’m 70 living in 2019ad. For those who didn’t know-------
“ad” means; The years “After Jesus’s death”.,.i.e. (ad)
2,019 years ago;.,.,,.,, Jesus walked the streets of Jerusalem
And He knew “Jerusalem” was not the “Promised Land”
Now over 2,000 years later I have found it.
The “Promised Land “ turns out to be-----
No,
It's not--
the Palestinian Land
now called “Israel”
But
The
“United States of America”
.,.,aka.,.,
USA
The United States
And as an American, I consider a Jewish American to be just “an American” or a “Jewish American”.
But more importantly; I as an American; I view a Jew as a Jewish person. I view Jews who live in or born in “Israel” as Israelite’s; not a “Jew”, although they are from the same family.
there is a difference
No harm intended or implied
If I have offended, you
Please forgive me -
Ok?
You tell me.Commence...And?Verse 1:2...
What does it say and what is God’s message?
Is this the best you can do?WFA has learned well from his self-hating Jewish web sites.