As a reminder, Trump hasn’t held a White House press conference in over a year

[martybegan]

You think that was some kind of dig at you? Get over yourself. That was to celebrate a group of people that finally won their right to pursue happiness.

Next you’re probably going to ask if Obama saying that a black person’s life matters is disrespectful to you rubes.

My issue with obergfell wan't the gay marriage part but the forcing of the States that don't want it to issue them by force.

However unlike you I understand some people oppose gay marriage on the merits. Now tell me how lighting up the white house in the rainbow flag, supposedly ALL the people's house" is respecting those people?

Lighting up the White House was acknowledging the rule of law of the Constitution was upheld; a victory for America. But I understand why you fret. I am certain there were folks who fretted when the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the Constitution and ruled that blacks couldn't be discriminated against and there were folks who fretted when the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the Constitution ruled that women couldn't be discriminated against.

There are still people that feel that way. Guess we can't celebrate any advances in Civil Rights because it hurts bigots feelings.

there you go using that overused word again.

So everyone who follows the bible is a bigot?

Who cares? You and your hurt feelings are irrelevant.

It's not about hurt feelings, it's about trying to stop orwellian bastards like you from creating the Thought Police.

Unlike you I can separate my own desires and wishes from what others want or desire, and i don't feel the need to use government to crush those who disagree with me.

 

[Oldstyle]

If the press had treated Donald Trump, the presidential contender, as they should have treated him, it would all be different now.

But from the very moment Donald Trump announced, he got nothing but scorn, ridicule and resentment from the so-called main stream media.

Respect was nowhere on the main stream media horizon.

They laughed at the idea that he can beat 16 other Republican contenders. Hell, these assholes ridiculed him for contending as a Republican.

Respect was nowhere to be found in the main stream media.

Then, when he demolished all the Republican wusses they ridiculed the idea that he could beat beat the woman who was "in line" supported by the Hungarian Jew whose name means in line.

Where was the respect of the main stream media then?

And then, to the very last minute on election night the contempt and pre-election disrespect peaked when it was foolishly declared by the main stream media that he has no path to the presidency.

And when he won 30 states the REAL disrespect really began.

And you wonder why President Trump wants to have as little to do with the main stream as media as possible.

Like you say, you get the respect you deserve and you get what you give.

None of this explains why he doesn’t owe to the American people to do it. Quit coddling him. Hes a big boy. He should be able to defend himself to the media if they are so unfair.

The only thing that Trump owes to the American people is doing the job that he was elected to do and fulfilling as many of his campaign promises as he can.

He owes NOTHING to the main stream media! They have a job to keep the American people informed. Does anyone out there want to claim that Donald Trump isn't telling us all what it is that he's doing? So if we're informed then what role does the media play? Trump's point...and it's a valid one...is that the main stream media doesn't report on the successes of his Administration. So he skips them and goes right to the American people through social media. That's what drives the liberal media crazy. They can't control the narrative if Trump won't go through them. He puts out what HE thinks is important and they counter it or ignore it. In many ways Trump has "neutered" the talking heads and god, do they hate him for it!

Do you really think Trump is an honest communicator? He is one of the most transparent manipulative spin doctors that I’ve ever seen. It’s not the job of the press to report his successes. It is their job to be honest and it is their job to hold the powerful accountable. They should be critical and they should ask the hard questions and they should challenge the powerful.

It isn't the job of the press to report a President's successes? Really? Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the job of the press was report successes and failures? As for asking the "hard questions"? Did the main stream press hold Barack Obama's feet to the fire when he started using "jobs created or saved" to distract from how few jobs he was able to create with his stimulus? Or did they just go along with that farce? You can't be "critical" of one President when you've just had a slobbering love affair with the proceeding President. You can't if you want to be seen as fair and unbiased!

As for what I think Trump is? He's a promoter. He promotes himself. He promotes his agenda. He does so in a totally over the top manner. Everything is "huge"...everything is "amazing"! It's who he is...it's how he'll always be. That's all a show though...what you need to look at with Trump is whether he achieves his goals...and to be quite honest with you, the man constantly surprises me with what he IS getting done!

Yes you are correct the press should report everything honestly, I’m simply saying it isn’t their job to just report his successes and kiss his ass like the Hannities do. Its what you bitch about the MSM doing for Obama.

But here’s the deal. Most things that you call successes from Trump are reported on those networks you call fake news. You may not like the pundit commentary and spin but the major outlets all cover the same headlines. Just as they covered Benghazi and the IRD scandal and the Clinton Email probe etc

The "spin"...as you refer to it...goes way beyond spin...it's now out and out propaganda. Their coverage of "Russian collusion" for the past year has been non stop and based on what exactly? The fact that they don't like Trump and wish he hadn't been elected? The Special Council has come up with nothing to justify an investigation into Russian collusion despite an exhaustive search. At the same time it's obvious that Hillary Clinton...her campaign...the Democratic National Convention...and the Obama White House did collude with foreign players to attempt to sway our election by smearing Trump and spying on his campaign. So if the job of the main stream media is to tell the public the truth about what happens and protect us from abuses by those in power...then why haven't they been investigating what's the biggest election scandal since the days of Richard Nixon and Watergate?

 

[martybegan]

You think that was some kind of dig at you? Get over yourself. That was to celebrate a group of people that finally won their right to pursue happiness.

Next you’re probably going to ask if Obama saying that a black person’s life matters is disrespectful to you rubes.

My issue with obergfell wan't the gay marriage part but the forcing of the States that don't want it to issue them by force.

However unlike you I understand some people oppose gay marriage on the merits. Now tell me how lighting up the white house in the rainbow flag, supposedly ALL the people's house" is respecting those people?

Lighting up the White House was acknowledging the rule of law of the Constitution was upheld; a victory for America. But I understand why you fret. I am certain there were folks who fretted when the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the Constitution and ruled that blacks couldn't be discriminated against and there were folks who fretted when the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the Constitution ruled that women couldn't be discriminated against.

There are still people that feel that way. Guess we can't celebrate any advances in Civil Rights because it hurts bigots feelings.

there you go using that overused word again.

So everyone who follows the bible is a bigot?

No, just the ones that use it to slow the roll of civil rights. The people that used the bible to justify segregation, slavery and anti miscegenation were bigots. So are the ones that use it to keep gays from gaining equal rights.

The Rude Pundit

The Rude Pundit

Proudly lowering the level of political discourse

04/02/2013

Sorry, Conservatives: You Are a Bigot If You Oppose Gay Marriage:
Oh, how we laugh at the idiots of the past. When we watch TV shows and movies that were produced or take place in the past, through the 1980s, at least, how we shake our heads, most of us, at the men who think a woman's place is in the home. What fools they are, what narrow-minded, bigoted fools, we think, and we know we're on the good side of history because, well, shit, we are, despite the best efforts of some on the right (men and women) to tell us that the nation collapsed once women decided life could be something other than just taking care of the kids and cleaning the house. Or that careers could be more than teacher, nurse, maid, or nanny, professions that were seen as variations on housewife. But if you were to tell the men, including politicians and religious leaders, who believed in what they saw as a "natural order" or some such garbage that they were, indeed, bigoted fools, they would have said the exact same goddamned thing that opponents of gay marriage now say: Hey, we're not bigots just because we disagree with you.​

A bigot for something that was only invented 30 years ago?

Bullshit.

Sorry, but not everyone is going to like your lifestyle, and they have the right to try to make government act the way they want within the limits of the constitution (or past it if they get enough people).

And you are a bigot if you think them following their religion makes them bigots.

Hypocrites all of you.

 

[Faun]

My issue with obergfell wan't the gay marriage part but the forcing of the States that don't want it to issue them by force.

However unlike you I understand some people oppose gay marriage on the merits. Now tell me how lighting up the white house in the rainbow flag, supposedly ALL the people's house" is respecting those people?

Lighting up the White House was acknowledging the rule of law of the Constitution was upheld; a victory for America. But I understand why you fret. I am certain there were folks who fretted when the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the Constitution and ruled that blacks couldn't be discriminated against and there were folks who fretted when the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the Constitution ruled that women couldn't be discriminated against.

There are still people that feel that way. Guess we can't celebrate any advances in Civil Rights because it hurts bigots feelings.

there you go using that overused word again.

So everyone who follows the bible is a bigot?

Who cares? You and your hurt feelings are irrelevant.

It's not about hurt feelings, it's about trying to stop orwellian bastards like you from creating the Thought Police.

Unlike you I can separate my own desires and wishes from what others want or desire, and i don't feel the need to use government to crush those who disagree with me.

LOLOL

Moron... YOU are trying to be the thought police. Telling people how they must live their lives according to your Bible if they want to marry. And you’re the one who wants the government to enforce that upon them.

 

[martybegan]

Lighting up the White House was acknowledging the rule of law of the Constitution was upheld; a victory for America. But I understand why you fret. I am certain there were folks who fretted when the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the Constitution and ruled that blacks couldn't be discriminated against and there were folks who fretted when the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the Constitution ruled that women couldn't be discriminated against.

There are still people that feel that way. Guess we can't celebrate any advances in Civil Rights because it hurts bigots feelings.

there you go using that overused word again.

So everyone who follows the bible is a bigot?

Who cares? You and your hurt feelings are irrelevant.

It's not about hurt feelings, it's about trying to stop orwellian bastards like you from creating the Thought Police.

Unlike you I can separate my own desires and wishes from what others want or desire, and i don't feel the need to use government to crush those who disagree with me.

LOLOL

Moron... YOU are trying to be the thought police. Telling people how they must live their lives according to your Bible if they want to marry. And you’re the one who wants the government to enforce that upon them.

Nope. As I said Obergfell should have forced States to accept SSM licenses from other States even if they don't want to issue them themselves.

What i don't see is a constitutional right to a SSM. I am OK with States changing their marriage laws to allow SSM, (or poly marriage if they want to do that), but not with courts making shit up to force things on others.

 

[Faun]

None of this explains why he doesn’t owe to the American people to do it. Quit coddling him. Hes a big boy. He should be able to defend himself to the media if they are so unfair.

The only thing that Trump owes to the American people is doing the job that he was elected to do and fulfilling as many of his campaign promises as he can.

He owes NOTHING to the main stream media! They have a job to keep the American people informed. Does anyone out there want to claim that Donald Trump isn't telling us all what it is that he's doing? So if we're informed then what role does the media play? Trump's point...and it's a valid one...is that the main stream media doesn't report on the successes of his Administration. So he skips them and goes right to the American people through social media. That's what drives the liberal media crazy. They can't control the narrative if Trump won't go through them. He puts out what HE thinks is important and they counter it or ignore it. In many ways Trump has "neutered" the talking heads and god, do they hate him for it!

Do you really think Trump is an honest communicator? He is one of the most transparent manipulative spin doctors that I’ve ever seen. It’s not the job of the press to report his successes. It is their job to be honest and it is their job to hold the powerful accountable. They should be critical and they should ask the hard questions and they should challenge the powerful.

It isn't the job of the press to report a President's successes? Really? Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the job of the press was report successes and failures? As for asking the "hard questions"? Did the main stream press hold Barack Obama's feet to the fire when he started using "jobs created or saved" to distract from how few jobs he was able to create with his stimulus? Or did they just go along with that farce? You can't be "critical" of one President when you've just had a slobbering love affair with the proceeding President. You can't if you want to be seen as fair and unbiased!

As for what I think Trump is? He's a promoter. He promotes himself. He promotes his agenda. He does so in a totally over the top manner. Everything is "huge"...everything is "amazing"! It's who he is...it's how he'll always be. That's all a show though...what you need to look at with Trump is whether he achieves his goals...and to be quite honest with you, the man constantly surprises me with what he IS getting done!

Yes you are correct the press should report everything honestly, I’m simply saying it isn’t their job to just report his successes and kiss his ass like the Hannities do. Its what you bitch about the MSM doing for Obama.

But here’s the deal. Most things that you call successes from Trump are reported on those networks you call fake news. You may not like the pundit commentary and spin but the major outlets all cover the same headlines. Just as they covered Benghazi and the IRD scandal and the Clinton Email probe etc

The "spin"...as you refer to it...goes way beyond spin...it's now out and out propaganda. Their coverage of "Russian collusion" for the past year has been non stop and based on what exactly? The fact that they don't like Trump and wish he hadn't been elected? The Special Council has come up with nothing to justify an investigation into Russian collusion despite an exhaustive search. At the same time it's obvious that Hillary Clinton...her campaign...the Democratic National Convention...and the Obama White House did collude with foreign players to attempt to sway our election by smearing Trump and spying on his campaign. So if the job of the main stream media is to tell the public the truth about what happens and protect us from abuses by those in power...then why haven't they been investigating what's the biggest election scandal since the days of Richard Nixon and Watergate?

Based on Russia hacking us and virtually everyone in Trump’s campaign having some sort of connection to Russia.

 

[Seawytch]

My issue with obergfell wan't the gay marriage part but the forcing of the States that don't want it to issue them by force.

However unlike you I understand some people oppose gay marriage on the merits. Now tell me how lighting up the white house in the rainbow flag, supposedly ALL the people's house" is respecting those people?

Lighting up the White House was acknowledging the rule of law of the Constitution was upheld; a victory for America. But I understand why you fret. I am certain there were folks who fretted when the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the Constitution and ruled that blacks couldn't be discriminated against and there were folks who fretted when the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the Constitution ruled that women couldn't be discriminated against.

There are still people that feel that way. Guess we can't celebrate any advances in Civil Rights because it hurts bigots feelings.

there you go using that overused word again.

So everyone who follows the bible is a bigot?

No, just the ones that use it to slow the roll of civil rights. The people that used the bible to justify segregation, slavery and anti miscegenation were bigots. So are the ones that use it to keep gays from gaining equal rights.

The Rude Pundit

The Rude Pundit

Proudly lowering the level of political discourse

04/02/2013

Sorry, Conservatives: You Are a Bigot If You Oppose Gay Marriage:
Oh, how we laugh at the idiots of the past. When we watch TV shows and movies that were produced or take place in the past, through the 1980s, at least, how we shake our heads, most of us, at the men who think a woman's place is in the home. What fools they are, what narrow-minded, bigoted fools, we think, and we know we're on the good side of history because, well, shit, we are, despite the best efforts of some on the right (men and women) to tell us that the nation collapsed once women decided life could be something other than just taking care of the kids and cleaning the house. Or that careers could be more than teacher, nurse, maid, or nanny, professions that were seen as variations on housewife. But if you were to tell the men, including politicians and religious leaders, who believed in what they saw as a "natural order" or some such garbage that they were, indeed, bigoted fools, they would have said the exact same goddamned thing that opponents of gay marriage now say: Hey, we're not bigots just because we disagree with you.​

A bigot for something that was only invented 30 years ago?

Bullshit.

Sorry, but not everyone is going to like your lifestyle, and they have the right to try to make government act the way they want within the limits of the constitution (or past it if they get enough people).

And you are a bigot if you think them following their religion makes them bigots.

Hypocrites all of you.

Intolerance of bigotry is no vice, snowflake.

 

[martybegan]

Lighting up the White House was acknowledging the rule of law of the Constitution was upheld; a victory for America. But I understand why you fret. I am certain there were folks who fretted when the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the Constitution and ruled that blacks couldn't be discriminated against and there were folks who fretted when the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the Constitution ruled that women couldn't be discriminated against.

There are still people that feel that way. Guess we can't celebrate any advances in Civil Rights because it hurts bigots feelings.

there you go using that overused word again.

So everyone who follows the bible is a bigot?

No, just the ones that use it to slow the roll of civil rights. The people that used the bible to justify segregation, slavery and anti miscegenation were bigots. So are the ones that use it to keep gays from gaining equal rights.

The Rude Pundit

The Rude Pundit

Proudly lowering the level of political discourse

04/02/2013

Sorry, Conservatives: You Are a Bigot If You Oppose Gay Marriage:
Oh, how we laugh at the idiots of the past. When we watch TV shows and movies that were produced or take place in the past, through the 1980s, at least, how we shake our heads, most of us, at the men who think a woman's place is in the home. What fools they are, what narrow-minded, bigoted fools, we think, and we know we're on the good side of history because, well, shit, we are, despite the best efforts of some on the right (men and women) to tell us that the nation collapsed once women decided life could be something other than just taking care of the kids and cleaning the house. Or that careers could be more than teacher, nurse, maid, or nanny, professions that were seen as variations on housewife. But if you were to tell the men, including politicians and religious leaders, who believed in what they saw as a "natural order" or some such garbage that they were, indeed, bigoted fools, they would have said the exact same goddamned thing that opponents of gay marriage now say: Hey, we're not bigots just because we disagree with you.​

A bigot for something that was only invented 30 years ago?

Bullshit.

Sorry, but not everyone is going to like your lifestyle, and they have the right to try to make government act the way they want within the limits of the constitution (or past it if they get enough people).

And you are a bigot if you think them following their religion makes them bigots.

Hypocrites all of you.

Intolerance of bigotry is no vice, snowflake.

No, it's just more bigotry, and an example of how people like you can't stand other people's views.

And again, you use the term snowflake wrong. I have not issue listening to your opinions, nor do they threaten my viewpoints in any way.

Snowflakes can't even hear other opinions without having the vapors, kind of like you.

 

[Crepitus]

He does not need to extole his virtues and accomplishments for the USA. They speak far louder on a global scale than he does

What virtues and accomplishments are those again? I forget.

 

[Seawytch]

My issue with obergfell wan't the gay marriage part but the forcing of the States that don't want it to issue them by force.

However unlike you I understand some people oppose gay marriage on the merits. Now tell me how lighting up the white house in the rainbow flag, supposedly ALL the people's house" is respecting those people?

Lighting up the White House was acknowledging the rule of law of the Constitution was upheld; a victory for America. But I understand why you fret. I am certain there were folks who fretted when the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the Constitution and ruled that blacks couldn't be discriminated against and there were folks who fretted when the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the Constitution ruled that women couldn't be discriminated against.

There are still people that feel that way. Guess we can't celebrate any advances in Civil Rights because it hurts bigots feelings.

there you go using that overused word again.

So everyone who follows the bible is a bigot?

No, just the ones that use it to slow the roll of civil rights. The people that used the bible to justify segregation, slavery and anti miscegenation were bigots. So are the ones that use it to keep gays from gaining equal rights.

The Rude Pundit

The Rude Pundit

Proudly lowering the level of political discourse

04/02/2013

Sorry, Conservatives: You Are a Bigot If You Oppose Gay Marriage:
Oh, how we laugh at the idiots of the past. When we watch TV shows and movies that were produced or take place in the past, through the 1980s, at least, how we shake our heads, most of us, at the men who think a woman's place is in the home. What fools they are, what narrow-minded, bigoted fools, we think, and we know we're on the good side of history because, well, shit, we are, despite the best efforts of some on the right (men and women) to tell us that the nation collapsed once women decided life could be something other than just taking care of the kids and cleaning the house. Or that careers could be more than teacher, nurse, maid, or nanny, professions that were seen as variations on housewife. But if you were to tell the men, including politicians and religious leaders, who believed in what they saw as a "natural order" or some such garbage that they were, indeed, bigoted fools, they would have said the exact same goddamned thing that opponents of gay marriage now say: Hey, we're not bigots just because we disagree with you.​

A bigot for something that was only invented 30 years ago?

Bullshit.

Sorry, but not everyone is going to like your lifestyle, and they have the right to try to make government act the way they want within the limits of the constitution (or past it if they get enough people).

And you are a bigot if you think them following their religion makes them bigots.

Hypocrites all of you.

So the people that “followed their religion” in regards to slavery, anti miscegenation and segregation weren’t bigots? Religion gives you a cover?

 

[martybegan]

Lighting up the White House was acknowledging the rule of law of the Constitution was upheld; a victory for America. But I understand why you fret. I am certain there were folks who fretted when the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the Constitution and ruled that blacks couldn't be discriminated against and there were folks who fretted when the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the Constitution ruled that women couldn't be discriminated against.

There are still people that feel that way. Guess we can't celebrate any advances in Civil Rights because it hurts bigots feelings.

there you go using that overused word again.

So everyone who follows the bible is a bigot?

No, just the ones that use it to slow the roll of civil rights. The people that used the bible to justify segregation, slavery and anti miscegenation were bigots. So are the ones that use it to keep gays from gaining equal rights.

The Rude Pundit

The Rude Pundit

Proudly lowering the level of political discourse

04/02/2013

Sorry, Conservatives: You Are a Bigot If You Oppose Gay Marriage:
Oh, how we laugh at the idiots of the past. When we watch TV shows and movies that were produced or take place in the past, through the 1980s, at least, how we shake our heads, most of us, at the men who think a woman's place is in the home. What fools they are, what narrow-minded, bigoted fools, we think, and we know we're on the good side of history because, well, shit, we are, despite the best efforts of some on the right (men and women) to tell us that the nation collapsed once women decided life could be something other than just taking care of the kids and cleaning the house. Or that careers could be more than teacher, nurse, maid, or nanny, professions that were seen as variations on housewife. But if you were to tell the men, including politicians and religious leaders, who believed in what they saw as a "natural order" or some such garbage that they were, indeed, bigoted fools, they would have said the exact same goddamned thing that opponents of gay marriage now say: Hey, we're not bigots just because we disagree with you.​

A bigot for something that was only invented 30 years ago?

Bullshit.

Sorry, but not everyone is going to like your lifestyle, and they have the right to try to make government act the way they want within the limits of the constitution (or past it if they get enough people).

And you are a bigot if you think them following their religion makes them bigots.

Hypocrites all of you.

So the people that “followed their religion” in regards to slavery, anti miscegenation and segregation weren’t bigots? Religion gives you a cover?

Most of them tacked the religion on via piss poor interpretations of the bible only AFTER they were called out by Northern Abolitionists.

The Bible and most other religious texts consider homosexuality to be sinful. Show me in the bible where it makes slavery or segregation or bans on inter-racial marrying approved of, or even required.

The bible does have some references on how to treat slaves, but it doesn't require it. It also has some things to say about how the Jews should associate with other groups, but most of those were not carried over into Christianity.

 

[Seawytch]

There are still people that feel that way. Guess we can't celebrate any advances in Civil Rights because it hurts bigots feelings.

there you go using that overused word again.

So everyone who follows the bible is a bigot?

No, just the ones that use it to slow the roll of civil rights. The people that used the bible to justify segregation, slavery and anti miscegenation were bigots. So are the ones that use it to keep gays from gaining equal rights.

The Rude Pundit

The Rude Pundit

Proudly lowering the level of political discourse

04/02/2013

Sorry, Conservatives: You Are a Bigot If You Oppose Gay Marriage:
Oh, how we laugh at the idiots of the past. When we watch TV shows and movies that were produced or take place in the past, through the 1980s, at least, how we shake our heads, most of us, at the men who think a woman's place is in the home. What fools they are, what narrow-minded, bigoted fools, we think, and we know we're on the good side of history because, well, shit, we are, despite the best efforts of some on the right (men and women) to tell us that the nation collapsed once women decided life could be something other than just taking care of the kids and cleaning the house. Or that careers could be more than teacher, nurse, maid, or nanny, professions that were seen as variations on housewife. But if you were to tell the men, including politicians and religious leaders, who believed in what they saw as a "natural order" or some such garbage that they were, indeed, bigoted fools, they would have said the exact same goddamned thing that opponents of gay marriage now say: Hey, we're not bigots just because we disagree with you.​

A bigot for something that was only invented 30 years ago?

Bullshit.

Sorry, but not everyone is going to like your lifestyle, and they have the right to try to make government act the way they want within the limits of the constitution (or past it if they get enough people).

And you are a bigot if you think them following their religion makes them bigots.

Hypocrites all of you.

So the people that “followed their religion” in regards to slavery, anti miscegenation and segregation weren’t bigots? Religion gives you a cover?

Most of them tacked the religion on via piss poor interpretations of the bible only AFTER they were called out by Northern Abolitionists.

The Bible and most other religious texts consider homosexuality to be sinful. Show me in the bible where it makes slavery or segregation or bans on inter-racial marrying approved of, or even required.

The bible does have some references on how to treat slaves, but it doesn't require it. It also has some things to say about how the Jews should associate with other groups, but most of those were not carried over into Christianity.

The Bible doesn’t require bigotry towards gays, especially in the realm of legal, civil marriage. You’re free to make whatever silly rules you want for your religious followers. You aren’t free to impose those rules on the rest of us.

 

[martybegan]

there you go using that overused word again.

So everyone who follows the bible is a bigot?

No, just the ones that use it to slow the roll of civil rights. The people that used the bible to justify segregation, slavery and anti miscegenation were bigots. So are the ones that use it to keep gays from gaining equal rights.

The Rude Pundit

The Rude Pundit

Proudly lowering the level of political discourse

04/02/2013

Sorry, Conservatives: You Are a Bigot If You Oppose Gay Marriage:
Oh, how we laugh at the idiots of the past. When we watch TV shows and movies that were produced or take place in the past, through the 1980s, at least, how we shake our heads, most of us, at the men who think a woman's place is in the home. What fools they are, what narrow-minded, bigoted fools, we think, and we know we're on the good side of history because, well, shit, we are, despite the best efforts of some on the right (men and women) to tell us that the nation collapsed once women decided life could be something other than just taking care of the kids and cleaning the house. Or that careers could be more than teacher, nurse, maid, or nanny, professions that were seen as variations on housewife. But if you were to tell the men, including politicians and religious leaders, who believed in what they saw as a "natural order" or some such garbage that they were, indeed, bigoted fools, they would have said the exact same goddamned thing that opponents of gay marriage now say: Hey, we're not bigots just because we disagree with you.​

A bigot for something that was only invented 30 years ago?

Bullshit.

Sorry, but not everyone is going to like your lifestyle, and they have the right to try to make government act the way they want within the limits of the constitution (or past it if they get enough people).

And you are a bigot if you think them following their religion makes them bigots.

Hypocrites all of you.

So the people that “followed their religion” in regards to slavery, anti miscegenation and segregation weren’t bigots? Religion gives you a cover?

Most of them tacked the religion on via piss poor interpretations of the bible only AFTER they were called out by Northern Abolitionists.

The Bible and most other religious texts consider homosexuality to be sinful. Show me in the bible where it makes slavery or segregation or bans on inter-racial marrying approved of, or even required.

The bible does have some references on how to treat slaves, but it doesn't require it. It also has some things to say about how the Jews should associate with other groups, but most of those were not carried over into Christianity.

The Bible doesn’t require bigotry towards gays, especially in the realm of legal, civil marriage. You’re free to make whatever silly rules you want for your religious followers. You aren’t free to impose those rules on the rest of us.

it considers it sinful. People are allowed to vote on things per their morality, and if they get enough people to agree, it doesn't matter if the reason is religious or not.

The 1st amendment protects you from paying into churches, or being forced to be a member of one, or attending one. It doesn't require all laws to have a secular basis only.

And "bake that fucking cake, peasant" is imposing YOUR rules on other people, so you are a giant fucking hypocrite.

 

[Slade3200]

What exactly do you think I’m blind too?

Figure it out yourself.

The easy way for me to make you look even more stupid than you make yourself look is by simply asking you to explain yourself. People like you never can so they respond like you just did, by either dodging or diverting. Nice try.

Fine, you are blind to your own obvious hatred and biases.

i.e. "slade hates trump, so he will gladly turn a blind eye to anyone who is an ass as long as they hate trump"

You would probably give them a reach around while rimming their asshole at the same time.

See I told you that you’d make an ass out of yourself if you tried to explain your ignorant statements.

I don’t hate Trump but I am highly critical of him because I think he acts wildly inappropriate for the position that he is in. You on the other had seem highly emotional and unable to present a rational or honest argument. But whatever floats your boat I guess

Nah, you hate trump you are just too dense or stupid to admit it to yourself.

I give what I get and you frankly aren't worth my tier one responses.

You get to be called out like the other morons on this board.

Go on whatever little power trip you need to, fact is you don’t know shit about what I think so you just make yourself sound even more stupid when you try and dictate to me how I feel about things. Doesn’t get much more idiotic than that!

 

[martybegan]

Figure it out yourself.

The easy way for me to make you look even more stupid than you make yourself look is by simply asking you to explain yourself. People like you never can so they respond like you just did, by either dodging or diverting. Nice try.

Fine, you are blind to your own obvious hatred and biases.

i.e. "slade hates trump, so he will gladly turn a blind eye to anyone who is an ass as long as they hate trump"

You would probably give them a reach around while rimming their asshole at the same time.

See I told you that you’d make an ass out of yourself if you tried to explain your ignorant statements.

I don’t hate Trump but I am highly critical of him because I think he acts wildly inappropriate for the position that he is in. You on the other had seem highly emotional and unable to present a rational or honest argument. But whatever floats your boat I guess

Nah, you hate trump you are just too dense or stupid to admit it to yourself.

I give what I get and you frankly aren't worth my tier one responses.

You get to be called out like the other morons on this board.

Go on whatever little power trip you need to, fact is you don’t know shit about what I think so you just make yourself sound even more stupid when you try and dictate to me how I feel about things. Doesn’t get much more idiotic than that!

I can observe your posts, and that tells me all I need to know, at least about your posting persona.

 

[Slade3200]

None of this explains why he doesn’t owe to the American people to do it. Quit coddling him. Hes a big boy. He should be able to defend himself to the media if they are so unfair.

The only thing that Trump owes to the American people is doing the job that he was elected to do and fulfilling as many of his campaign promises as he can.

He owes NOTHING to the main stream media! They have a job to keep the American people informed. Does anyone out there want to claim that Donald Trump isn't telling us all what it is that he's doing? So if we're informed then what role does the media play? Trump's point...and it's a valid one...is that the main stream media doesn't report on the successes of his Administration. So he skips them and goes right to the American people through social media. That's what drives the liberal media crazy. They can't control the narrative if Trump won't go through them. He puts out what HE thinks is important and they counter it or ignore it. In many ways Trump has "neutered" the talking heads and god, do they hate him for it!

Do you really think Trump is an honest communicator? He is one of the most transparent manipulative spin doctors that I’ve ever seen. It’s not the job of the press to report his successes. It is their job to be honest and it is their job to hold the powerful accountable. They should be critical and they should ask the hard questions and they should challenge the powerful.

It isn't the job of the press to report a President's successes? Really? Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the job of the press was report successes and failures? As for asking the "hard questions"? Did the main stream press hold Barack Obama's feet to the fire when he started using "jobs created or saved" to distract from how few jobs he was able to create with his stimulus? Or did they just go along with that farce? You can't be "critical" of one President when you've just had a slobbering love affair with the proceeding President. You can't if you want to be seen as fair and unbiased!

As for what I think Trump is? He's a promoter. He promotes himself. He promotes his agenda. He does so in a totally over the top manner. Everything is "huge"...everything is "amazing"! It's who he is...it's how he'll always be. That's all a show though...what you need to look at with Trump is whether he achieves his goals...and to be quite honest with you, the man constantly surprises me with what he IS getting done!

Yes you are correct the press should report everything honestly, I’m simply saying it isn’t their job to just report his successes and kiss his ass like the Hannities do. Its what you bitch about the MSM doing for Obama.

But here’s the deal. Most things that you call successes from Trump are reported on those networks you call fake news. You may not like the pundit commentary and spin but the major outlets all cover the same headlines. Just as they covered Benghazi and the IRD scandal and the Clinton Email probe etc

The "spin"...as you refer to it...goes way beyond spin...it's now out and out propaganda. Their coverage of "Russian collusion" for the past year has been non stop and based on what exactly? The fact that they don't like Trump and wish he hadn't been elected? The Special Council has come up with nothing to justify an investigation into Russian collusion despite an exhaustive search. At the same time it's obvious that Hillary Clinton...her campaign...the Democratic National Convention...and the Obama White House did collude with foreign players to attempt to sway our election by smearing Trump and spying on his campaign. So if the job of the main stream media is to tell the public the truth about what happens and protect us from abuses by those in power...then why haven't they been investigating what's the biggest election scandal since the days of Richard Nixon and Watergate?

I agree the Russia investigation is over blown and over reported. Welcome to Benghazi which lasted for years. It’s annoying, I get it, but it isn’t fake. The things being reported are real. There is just way too much speculation being thrown around to inject drama and stir up the ratings

 

[Flash]

Trump answers questions in some venue or another a couple of times every week.

He also lets us know what he thinks with his numerous daily tweets, which is a good thing. Just last week he called into Fox and spent a half hour answering questions. Yesterday he answered questions from the reporters with the Nigerian.

The asshole Moon Bats can't stand it that he is circumventing the Liberal media by communicating on his terms.

MAGA Baby!

 

[Slade3200]

The easy way for me to make you look even more stupid than you make yourself look is by simply asking you to explain yourself. People like you never can so they respond like you just did, by either dodging or diverting. Nice try.

Fine, you are blind to your own obvious hatred and biases.

i.e. "slade hates trump, so he will gladly turn a blind eye to anyone who is an ass as long as they hate trump"

You would probably give them a reach around while rimming their asshole at the same time.

See I told you that you’d make an ass out of yourself if you tried to explain your ignorant statements.

I don’t hate Trump but I am highly critical of him because I think he acts wildly inappropriate for the position that he is in. You on the other had seem highly emotional and unable to present a rational or honest argument. But whatever floats your boat I guess

Nah, you hate trump you are just too dense or stupid to admit it to yourself.

I give what I get and you frankly aren't worth my tier one responses.

You get to be called out like the other morons on this board.

Go on whatever little power trip you need to, fact is you don’t know shit about what I think so you just make yourself sound even more stupid when you try and dictate to me how I feel about things. Doesn’t get much more idiotic than that!

I can observe your posts, and that tells me all I need to know, at least about your posting persona.

Yeah and when I see you regurgitating back your off base observations it only makes me laugh. You’re not as smart as you think you are Marty and you make yourself look like an ass when you try and tell people how they feel about things. I’d work on a different approach to these discussions if you want to be taken seriously, because what you’re doing now is a joke.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

is it because he’s a pussy who can’t handle hardball questions unlike the softies he gets from Fox News? Does he constantly need Fox News to coddle his ego? The white press conference is standard practice by Presidents that goes back generations.

Even If you want to pretend the press is unfair to him which of course is bullshit, why doesn’t he face them down like a real president would and defend himself? Be a man for once. Even better, he removes his fake hair and orange tan to show he has some balls.

Of course, maybe the true reason he doesn’t do them is because he knows he made a complete ass of himself last time.

Are you Trump supporters really going to pretend White House press conferences don’t matter? If Obama dodged them you would never shut the fuck about it.

billy billy billy, it is so obvious the 2016 election is gnawing at your insides, trump don't need to do no stinkin press conferences, the press will have to keep using their imaginations without his help

 

[martybegan]

Fine, you are blind to your own obvious hatred and biases.

i.e. "slade hates trump, so he will gladly turn a blind eye to anyone who is an ass as long as they hate trump"

You would probably give them a reach around while rimming their asshole at the same time.

See I told you that you’d make an ass out of yourself if you tried to explain your ignorant statements.

I don’t hate Trump but I am highly critical of him because I think he acts wildly inappropriate for the position that he is in. You on the other had seem highly emotional and unable to present a rational or honest argument. But whatever floats your boat I guess

Nah, you hate trump you are just too dense or stupid to admit it to yourself.

I give what I get and you frankly aren't worth my tier one responses.

You get to be called out like the other morons on this board.

Go on whatever little power trip you need to, fact is you don’t know shit about what I think so you just make yourself sound even more stupid when you try and dictate to me how I feel about things. Doesn’t get much more idiotic than that!

I can observe your posts, and that tells me all I need to know, at least about your posting persona.

Yeah and when I see you regurgitating back your off base observations it only makes me laugh. You’re not as smart as you think you are Marty and you make yourself look like an ass when you try and tell people how they feel about things. I’d work on a different approach to these discussions if you want to be taken seriously, because what you’re doing now is a joke.

If you don't want to be treated like a progressive cuck hack, stop posting like one.