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That is why I use the word "Oriental." By Oriental I mean China, and nations that learned civilization from China: Korea, Japan, and Vietnam.Deceptive argument.
Asians consist of least 50 different subgroups. Also all Asians do not get high scores?
That is not what Lisa558 said at all. You have committed the Straw Man Fallacy.Well this is where your racism becomes apparent despite your sarcasm. It's okay if Black students go to a lesser school, they'll be fine, yet you act like a white or Asian kid not getting into the Ivy league school of their choice is a crime against humanity.
What are the tangible benefits of diversity? How does anyone benefit from sharing a classroom with the illegitimate son of a unmarried welfare mother and a violent street criminal?Perhaps a good model might be what the Service Academies do.
The Service Academies allow for 5 appointees by each Congressperson, which means that they achieve the required diversity.
She did in fact say that black people not getting into Ivy league schools would go to lesser schools and be just fine but that white students not getting into their preferred Ivy league school was racism.That is not what Lisa558 said at all. You have committed the Straw Man Fallacy.
Managers do not want a good mix. They want people they will like working with, and who will be liked by their co workers.Okay.
As long as we also get rid of the insanity of white privilege as well. No more hiring your drinking buddy, the lady you are sleeping with on the side, or your idiot nephew. Nope, you will have to be able to show that you hired the most qualified candidate, period, and be able to show your work.
Now, here's the reality. Two of the last three jobs I got, not because I had the most impressive resume (although my resumes are very well written, it's almost like l do that as a side business) or was probably even the most qualified. I got them because people who already worked there knew me and recommended me. (One of them I wish they hadn't, because it was a toxic work environment.) So until you can eliminate all unfairness in the process, you should probably tolerate Affirmative Action so everyone gets at least something of a shot.
No you don't, you want it to go back to the days when no black students were in white colleges and universities.Just the opposite. YOU have no problem discriminating according to race. I am the one who wants admissions to be color-blind.
You won't even address the fact that many subpar white kids are admitted in to college above more qualified applicants because of who their parents are or someone they or their family knows. You haven't presented anything that shows a less qualified black kid was accepted over a more qualified white applicant.And news flash: being color-blind is not discriminating against black folks. Only in Lib Land is it racist to disallow decisions based on race.
I am a Democrat. I never said that. I like Orientals.I've heard democrats say that if colleges didn't discriminate against Asians, there would be to many Asians in the colleges.
Orientals tend to do better than white Gentiles. Ashkenazi Jews tend to do the best.Asians do the best academicly among Whites, Blacks, and Latinos. Agree or Disagree???
Because that’s what liberals are saying about the BETTER qualified whites! Even Coyote said that my father, impoverished and from uneducated immigrant parents, and who was at the very top with his GPA and Regents exam would do just as well in a lesser school - and allow his spot to a black with worse grades and score.She did in fact say that black people not getting into Ivy league schools would go to lesser schools and be just fine but that white students not getting into their preferred Ivy league school was racism.
Why do Asians do better than whites academically?Orientals tend to do better than white Gentiles. Ashkenazi Jews tend to do the best.
Public and very large private institutions receiving government contracts are very different entities from the mom and pop business.Okay.
As long as we also get rid of the insanity of white privilege as well. No more hiring your drinking buddy, the lady you are sleeping with on the side, or your idiot nephew. Nope, you will have to be able to show that you hired the most qualified candidate, period, and be able to show your work.
Now, here's the reality. Two of the last three jobs I got, not because I had the most impressive resume (although my resumes are very well written, it's almost like l do that as a side business) or was probably even the most qualified. I got them because people who already worked there knew me and recommended me. (One of them I wish they hadn't, because it was a toxic work environment.) So until you can eliminate all unfairness in the process, you should probably tolerate Affirmative Action so everyone gets at least something of a shot.
No you don't, you want it to go back to the days when no black students were in white colleges and universities.
You won't even address the fact that many subpar white kids are admitted in to college above more qualified applicants because of who their parents are or someone they or their family knows. You haven't presented anything that shows a less qualified black kid was accepted over a more qualified white applicant.
It’s both innate and cultural:Why do Asians do better than whites academically?
Agreed. I think culture plays a significant role in the academic performance results of Asians. Are other races and cultures not at that level of performance willing to concede that since they do not place academic performance as a premium or priority, the results do not follow?It’s both innate and cultural:
1) They do have higher IQs, on average.
2) Educational excellence is highly valued - even demanded.
No Lisa, I referenced things you said. Try and keep up dear.Because that’s what liberals are saying about the BETTER qualified whites! Even Coyote said that my father, impoverished and from uneducated immigrant parents, and who was at the very top with his GPA and Regents exam would do just as well in a lesser school - and allow his spot to a black with worse grades and score.
Yes, because I'm not operating under the assumption that GPAs and SAT scores are objective measurements of intellectual capability or aptitude.So why is it OK for a top white student to go to the lesser school, and not the black - when in fact the black had lower scores and would not have gotten into the top school in the first place except for being black?
I'm not ignoring it, I just don't care about it. I don't see why slightly higher scores are the be all end all of who should be accepted into Ivy league schools.One thing you people are ignoring is that we are talking about whites with better scores rejected and blacks with lower scores accepted.
All Orientals do not perform better than all whites. Most Orientals perform better than most whites because they have higher IQ averages.Why do Asians do better than whites academically?
What if the questions were more like; DeWayne got 5 gram of crack. LeQuisha gots 2 mo gram den DeWayne. How many gram of crack do LeQuisha got?Yes, because I'm not operating under the assumption that GPAs and SAT scores are objective measurements of intellectual capability or aptitude.
No one said All. So, you are putting the emphasis on IQs. Do you have a scientific source ranking the IQs by ethnicity and race??All Orientals do not perform better than all whites. Most Orientals perform better than most whites because they have higher IQ averages.
And this is a great example of why IQ averages should be taken with a grain of salt and context. Orientals have higher IQs on average than Indians but here in America a larger percentage of Indians are college graduates than Orientals and on average earn higher incomes.All Orientals do not perform better than all whites. Most Orientals perform better than most whites because they have higher IQ averages.
RACE, INTELLIGENCE, AND THE BRAIN: THE ERRORS AND OMISSIONS OF THE 'REVISED' EDITION OF S. J. GOULD'S THE MISMEASURE OF MAN (1996) J. Philippe Rushton Department of Psychology, University of Western Ontario, London, Ontario N6A 5C2, CanadaNo one said All. So, you are putting the emphasis on IQs. Do you have a scientific source ranking the IQs by ethnicity and race??
