Assault weapons and bomb-carrying robots.....

[2aguy]

And you aren't allowed to drink if you are carrying a weapon twit......

I can't believe that you're THAT stupid......LOL

Moron.....concealed carry gun owners.....13,000,000 in the United States today......are the most law abiding citizens in the country ...including more law abiding than sworn police officers....

 

[rcfieldz]

As long as the weapon is not automatic and the robot isn't carrying an armed bomb, can I own one?

 

[2aguy]

Because he was as outgunned. You fight to well arm terrorists.

True, what right wingers FAIL to realize is that their love of the 2nd amendment makes it EASY and LEGAL for any terrorist wanna-be to be able to purchase the type of weapon that makes killing of others very, very "effective" and in a shorter time (takes 2 to 3 second to place another clip in their beloved weapons.)

Over 13,000,000 concealed carry gun owners in this country and our gun murder rate went down from 1990s to today.....you guys were wrong...more guns in the hands of gun owners does not increase the gun murder rate.......you stupid gun free zone laws do target unarmed people....

 

[g5000]

No decent American would object to the Dallas' SWAT using a robot with a bomb to blow to kingdom-come the bastard sniper.....good riddance to evil.

However, I have a question based on recent threads on this forum:

The right wing "rationale" against ANY ban of assault rifles being sold to virtually whomever wants one has been that IF the police have such an assault weapon, THEN the average American under the 2nd amendment must ALSO be able to purchase such a weapon.......

If we follow that same mindset, should the average American be ALSO able to purchase a bomb-carrying robot under the rationale that anything that law enforcement may have the average American is also entitled to have? .

Civilians are already able to buy bomb-carrying robots.

 

[g5000]

Because he was as outgunned. You fight to well arm terrorists.

True, what right wingers FAIL to realize is that their love of the 2nd amendment makes it EASY and LEGAL for any terrorist wanna-be to be able to purchase the type of weapon that makes killing of others very, very "effective" and in a shorter time (takes 2 to 3 second to place another clip in their beloved weapons.)

Over 13,000,000 concealed carry gun owners in this country and our gun murder rate went down from 1990s to today.....you guys were wrong...more guns in the hands of gun owners does not increase the gun murder rate.......you stupid gun free zone laws do target unarmed people....

The percentage of gun owners has plummeted. Since you made the correlation between gun ownership and the murder rate, then you have to admit that the lower percentage of gun owners is responsible for the plunge in the murder rate, or you will sound like a raging hypocrite.

 

[nat4900]

Nope....criminals get guns easily no matter what...they don't obey the law....France completely bans fully automatic rifles.....and I linked to a French police official who said AKs are status symbol among FRench Criminals.....

They have every single stupid law you guys push....and if you are a criminal and you don't have an AK-47 you are seen as nerd....

OK, moron.......which of these TWO options are easier:

1. For a wanna-be criminal to get a gun ILLEGALLY possibly sold from an ATF agent posing as a seller......OR
2. For a wanna-be criminal to just walk into a gun show and pick up that weapon, LEGALLY???

Take your time in answering ......

 

[g5000]

Crime is down -- and so is gun ownership

 

[2aguy]

Because he was as outgunned. You fight to well arm terrorists.

True, what right wingers FAIL to realize is that their love of the 2nd amendment makes it EASY and LEGAL for any terrorist wanna-be to be able to purchase the type of weapon that makes killing of others very, very "effective" and in a shorter time (takes 2 to 3 second to place another clip in their beloved weapons.)

Over 13,000,000 concealed carry gun owners in this country and our gun murder rate went down from 1990s to today.....you guys were wrong...more guns in the hands of gun owners does not increase the gun murder rate.......you stupid gun free zone laws do target unarmed people....

The percentage of gun owners has plummeted. Since you made the correlation between gun ownership and the murder rate, then you have to admit that the lower percentage of gun owners is responsible for the plunge in the murder rate, or you will sound like a raging hypocrite.

That photo is a lie.........there are more guns being bought in record numbers in this country.........and fewer Americans willing to report gun ownership to anonymous phone callers or government poll takers.......

The photo even shows the problem....the General Social Survey is run by a gun grabber, he wants to use his information to encourage politicians to pass more gun control laws.....

Is gun ownership really down in America? | Fox News

Surely, gun control advocates such as GSS director Tom Smith view this decline as a good thing. In a 2003 book of mine, I quoted Smith as saying that the large drop in gun ownership would “make it easier for politicians to do the right thing on guns” and pass more restrictive regulations.

Other gun control advocates have mentioned to me that they hope that if people believe fewer people own guns, that may cause others to rethink their decision to own one themselves. It is part of the reason they dramatically exaggerate the risks of having guns in the home.

The Associated Press and Time ignored other polls by Gallup and ABC News/Washington Post.

These polls show that gun ownership rates have been flat over the same period. According to Gallup, household gun ownership has ranged from 51 percent in 1994 to 34 percent in 1999. In 2014, it was at 42 percent – comparable to the 43-45 percent figures during the 1970s.

A 2011 Gallup poll with the headline “Self-Reported Gun Ownership in U.S. Is Highest Since 1993” appears to have gotten no news coverage.

The ABC News/Washington Post poll shows an even more stable pattern, with household gun ownership between 44 and 46 percent in 1999. In 2013, the ownership rate was 43 percent.

There are other measures that suggest that we should be very careful of relying too heavily on polling to gauge the level of gun ownership. For example, the nationally number of concealed handgun permits has soared over the last decade: rising from about 2.7 million in 1999 to 4.6 million in 2007 to 11.1 million in 2014.

The National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) shows that the number of gun purchases has grown dramatically over time –doubling from 2006 to 2014.

---------------


Gun industry, Bloomberg media square off over female gun owner data

Putting a pin in the balloon of rising female gun ownership, the Trace, a journalism start up funded by Michael Bloomberg’s Everytown for Gun Safety, consulted the General Social Survey. A project of the University of Chicago’s National Opinion Research Center, the GSS has conducted a sociological survey since 1972 to collect historical data on everything from government spending to race relations.

When it comes to gun ownership by women, the pollsters noted the number has averaged about 11 percent over the past three decades with slight dips, to as low as 9.1 percent in 1989, and slight increases, to as high as 13.7 percent in 1982.

“There’s been no meaningful directional change in the percent of women owning guns,” said Tom Smith, the director of the GSS.

However, the National Shooting Sports Foundation on Thursday posted a rebuttal to the article, citing the GSS itself was flawed when it came to gun data– much as they did last yearwhen the survey noted a decline in gun ownership numbers despite eight straight years of increasing firearms sales that set all-time records.

The NSSF contends GSS isn’t actually counting the number of firearms in each household. Rather it is enumerating the number of individuals willing to talk to a stranger at their front door about how many firearms they own. The two concepts, holds the trade group, are vastly different.

“It is a staple of gun control politics to work to diminish both the size and the ever increasing diversity of the firearm-owning American citizenry,” noted Larry Keane, NSSF senior vice president and general counsel. “The Trace provides just the latest example.”

Besides noting the trade group’s own studies in female gun ownership rates, the NSSF also bemoaned the outlet for discounting previous articles in the mainstream media.

“The Trace also asks its readers to discount CBS News, Fox News, Ad Age and dozens of local reporters nationwide (collectively, a ‘credulous press’) who have actually gone to firearms retailers and ranges to report that they see evidence of more and more women buying guns and taking up target shooting as a recreational activity,” wrote Keane.

 

[nat4900]

An example of right wing "logic"

1. Having less gun-free zones and more open carry results in.......................Less mass killings.........Ergo
2. Having more nations getting a hold of a nuclear arsenal will ALSO make it so much safer in avoiding a nuclear holocaust.

For right wingers, the above is just THAT "simple."

 

[g5000]

 

[2aguy]

Crime is down -- and so is gun ownership

Again...the General Social Survey is a lie.....they are selling guns in Record numbers in this country and they are not being bought by the same two guys in idaho....

 

[rightwinger]

Bombs and nukes fall under other rules idiot.
Bombs and nukes are NOT firearms.

The Constitution says nothing about firearms

 

[2aguy]

And the problem with the General Social Survey...

Is gun ownership really down in America? | Fox News

Surely, gun control advocates such as GSS director Tom Smith view this decline as a good thing. In a 2003 book of mine, I quoted Smith as saying that the large drop in gun ownership would “make it easier for politicians to do the right thing on guns” and pass more restrictive regulations.

Other gun control advocates have mentioned to me that they hope that if people believe fewer people own guns, that may cause others to rethink their decision to own one themselves. It is part of the reason they dramatically exaggerate the risks of having guns in the home.

The Associated Press and Time ignored other polls by Gallup and ABC News/Washington Post.

These polls show that gun ownership rates have been flat over the same period. According to Gallup, household gun ownership has ranged from 51 percent in 1994 to 34 percent in 1999. In 2014, it was at 42 percent – comparable to the 43-45 percent figures during the 1970s.

A 2011 Gallup poll with the headline “Self-Reported Gun Ownership in U.S. Is Highest Since 1993” appears to have gotten no news coverage.

The ABC News/Washington Post poll shows an even more stable pattern, with household gun ownership between 44 and 46 percent in 1999. In 2013, the ownership rate was 43 percent.

There are other measures that suggest that we should be very careful of relying too heavily on polling to gauge the level of gun ownership. For example, the nationally number of concealed handgun permits has soared over the last decade: rising from about 2.7 million in 1999 to 4.6 million in 2007 to 11.1 million in 2014.

The National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) shows that the number of gun purchases has grown dramatically over time –doubling from 2006 to 2014.

---------------


Gun industry, Bloomberg media square off over female gun owner data

Putting a pin in the balloon of rising female gun ownership, the Trace, a journalism start up funded by Michael Bloomberg’s Everytown for Gun Safety, consulted the General Social Survey. A project of the University of Chicago’s National Opinion Research Center, the GSS has conducted a sociological survey since 1972 to collect historical data on everything from government spending to race relations.

When it comes to gun ownership by women, the pollsters noted the number has averaged about 11 percent over the past three decades with slight dips, to as low as 9.1 percent in 1989, and slight increases, to as high as 13.7 percent in 1982.

“There’s been no meaningful directional change in the percent of women owning guns,” said Tom Smith, the director of the GSS.

However, the National Shooting Sports Foundation on Thursday posted a rebuttal to the article, citing the GSS itself was flawed when it came to gun data– much as they did last yearwhen the survey noted a decline in gun ownership numbers despite eight straight years of increasing firearms sales that set all-time records.

The NSSF contends GSS isn’t actually counting the number of firearms in each household. Rather it is enumerating the number of individuals willing to talk to a stranger at their front door about how many firearms they own. The two concepts, holds the trade group, are vastly different.

“It is a staple of gun control politics to work to diminish both the size and the ever increasing diversity of the firearm-owning American citizenry,” noted Larry Keane, NSSF senior vice president and general counsel. “The Trace provides just the latest example.”

Besides noting the trade group’s own studies in female gun ownership rates, the NSSF also bemoaned the outlet for discounting previous articles in the mainstream media.

“The Trace also asks its readers to discount CBS News, Fox News, Ad Age and dozens of local reporters nationwide (collectively, a ‘credulous press’) who have actually gone to firearms retailers and ranges to report that they see evidence of more and more women buying guns and taking up target shooting as a recreational activity,” wrote Keane.

 

[g5000]

The poor, dumb innumerates can't tell the difference between gun sales and gun ownership.

America has more guns in fewer hands than ever before

So this raises a question: where are all those newly-manufactured guns going?

Most likely, they're being added to the stockpiles of people who already own guns. If gun sales are up and household-level ownership rates are down, that's the only real logical conclusion.

 

[g5000]

Analysis: Fewer U.S. gun owners own more guns

 

[nat4900]

And you aren't allowed to drink if you are carrying a weapon twit

So, 2guy goes into a bar armed.....but he is not there to drink (he is law abiding, after all) he is there to pick up a 3rd guy???

 

[2aguy]

The poor, dumb innumerates can't tell the difference between gun sales and gun ownership.

America has more guns in fewer hands than ever before

So this raises a question: where are all those newly-manufactured guns going?

Most likely, they're being added to the stockpiles of people who already own guns. If gun sales are up and household-level ownership rates are down, that's the only real logical conclusion.

Poor stupid asswipes......you take the word of a gun grabber in a country where gun owners are not telling anonymous pollsters they keep guns in their home........as gun sales are hitting record numbers every single month.......and background checks are going through the roof at record levels.......

 

[2aguy]

And you aren't allowed to drink if you are carrying a weapon twit

So, 2guy goes into a bar armed.....but he is not there to drink (he is law abiding, after all) he is there to pick up a 3rd guy???

I don't drink....and I don't go to bars....but when I do...if it was a gun free bar I wouldn't be carrying......

 

[rightwinger]

Young Americans do not have the love affair with guns that their parents and grandparents had. They did not grow up with shootem up westerns and playing cowboys and Indians. They are less likely to have a father who introduces them to guns at a young age

Fewer and fewer families have a gun in the house

 

[g5000]

I've explained this to the tards several times.

There is a smaller percentage of Americans who own guns. That smaller percentage owns more guns than gun owners of the past used to own.

It does not matter if you own one gun or two hundred guns, you are still just one gun owner in a dwindling percentage of gun owners.

The crime rate has decreased in tandem with the decrease in the percentage of gun owners.