Assault weapons not the real problem, Mental ilness is.

[52ndStreet]

The President is right when he says Mental illness pulled the trigger, not the gun. The media and the anti gun lobby always try to to blaim Guns and or assault rifles when these shootings occur. What they fail to mention is that mentally ill people are responsible for these attacks.Millions of these assault rifles are already in the hands of law abiding citizens, and they don't go out shooting up malls or Wal marts.

 

[Wry Catcher]

The President is right when he says Mental illness pulled the trigger, not the gun. The media and the anti gun lobby always try to to blaim Guns and or assault rifles when these shootings occur. What they fail to mention is that mentally ill people are responsible for these attacks.Millions of these assault rifles are already in the hands of law abiding citizens, and they don't go out shooting up malls or Wal marts.

If true we need proof. Why does the Dickey Amendment prevent research to prove your claim, or disprove it?

See: Dickey Amendment - Wikipedia

 

[Justin Richardson]

The Left will blame anyone - other than Mental Illness. If it doesn't meet their criteria or expertise; it is considered "Un-American".

 

[Wry Catcher]

The Left will blame anyone - other than Mental Illness. If it doesn't meet their criteria or expertise; it is considered "Un-American".

Have you checked reality lately?

 

[2aguy]

The President is right when he says Mental illness pulled the trigger, not the gun. The media and the anti gun lobby always try to to blaim Guns and or assault rifles when these shootings occur. What they fail to mention is that mentally ill people are responsible for these attacks.Millions of these assault rifles are already in the hands of law abiding citizens, and they don't go out shooting up malls or Wal marts.

If true we need proof. Why does the Dickey Amendment prevent research to prove your claim, or disprove it?

See: Dickey Amendment - Wikipedia

The Dickey Amendment doesn't prevent gun research...you are either a dishonest hack who knows this, or a vile asshat who is lying in your post.....

No, The Government Is Not 'Banned' From Studying Gun Violence

Absolutely nothing in the amendment prohibits the CDC from studying “gun violence,” even if this narrowly focused topic tells us little. In response to this inconvenient fact, gun controllers will explain that while there isn’t an outright ban, the Dickey amendment has a “chilling” effect on the study of gun violence.


Does it? Pointing out that “research plummeted after the 1996 ban” could just as easily tell us that most research funded by the CDC had been politically motivated. Because the idea that the CDC, whose spectacular mission creep has taken it from its primary goal of preventing malaria and other dangerous communicable diseases, to spending hundreds of millions of dollars nagging you about how much salt you put on your steaks or how often you do calisthenics, is nervous about the repercussions of engaging in non-partisan research is hard to believe.

Also unlikely is the notion that a $2.6 million cut in funding so horrified the agency that it was rendered powerless to pay for or conduct studies on gun violence. The CDC funding tripled from 1996 to 2010. The CDC’s budget is over six billion dollars today.

And the idea that the CDC was paralyzed through two-years of full Democratic Party control, and then six years under a president who was more antagonistic towards the Second Amendment than any other in history, is difficult to believe, because it’s provably false.

In 2013, President Barack Obama not only signed an Executive Order directing the CDC to research “gun violence,” the administration also provided an additional $10 million to do it. Here is the study on gun violence that was supposedly banned and yet funded by the CDC. You might not have heard about the resulting research, because it contains numerous inconvenient facts about gun ownership that fails to propel the predetermined narrative. Trump’s HHS Secretary Alex Azar is also open to the idea of funding more gun violence research.

It’s not banned. It’s not chilled.

Meanwhile, numerous states and private entities fund peer-reviewed studies and other research on gun violence. I know this because gun control advocates are constantly sending me studies that distort and conflate issues to help them make their arguments. My inbox is bombarded with studies and conferences and “webinars” dissecting gun violence.

The real problem here is two-fold. One, researchers want the CDC involved so they can access government data about American gun owners. Considering the rhetoric coming from Democrats — gun ownership being tantamount to terrorism, and so on — there’s absolutely no reason Republicans should acquiesce to helping gun controllers circumvent the privacy of Americans citizens peacefully practicing their Constitutional rights.

Second, gun control advocates want to lift the ban on politically skewed research because they’re interested in producing politically skewed research. When the American Medical Association declares gun violence a “public health crisis,” it’s not interested in a balance look at the issue. When researchers advocate lifting the restrictions on advocacy at the CDC, they don’t even pretend they not to hold pre-conceived notions about the outcomes.

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There’s no reason to allow activists — then or now — to use the veneer of state-sanctioned science for their partisan purposes. For example, we now know that Rosenberg and others at the CDC turned out to be wrong about the correlation between guns and crime — a steep drop in gun crimes coincided with the explosions of gun ownership from 1996 to 2014.

 

[2aguy]

The President is right when he says Mental illness pulled the trigger, not the gun. The media and the anti gun lobby always try to to blaim Guns and or assault rifles when these shootings occur. What they fail to mention is that mentally ill people are responsible for these attacks.Millions of these assault rifles are already in the hands of law abiding citizens, and they don't go out shooting up malls or Wal marts.

If true we need proof. Why does the Dickey Amendment prevent research to prove your claim, or disprove it?

See: Dickey Amendment - Wikipedia

Gun research gone after the Dickey Amendment...

in 2006....

Violence-Related Firearm Deaths Among Residents of Metropolitan Areas and Cities --- United States, 2006--2007

And this one....

Source of Firearms Used by Students in School-Associated Violent Deaths --- United States, 1992--1999

And this one....

http://www.thecommunityguide.org/violence/viol-AJPM-evrev-firearms-law.pdf

And this one....

Surveillance for Fatal and Nonfatal Firearm-Related Injuries --- United States, 1993--1998

And this one....

Firearm Homicides and Suicides in Major Metropolitan Areas — United States, 2006–2007 and 2009–2010

And this one...

Indoor Firing Ranges and Elevated Blood Lead Levels — United States, 2002–2013

And this one....

Rates of Homicide, Suicide, and Firearm-Related Death Among Children -- 26 Industrialized Countries


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[Justin Richardson]

Have you checked reality lately?

All day and over the weekend. You had Elizabeth Warren, Beto O'Rourke and Cory Booker abating the usual lies about Trump.

 

[xyz]

The President is right when he says Mental illness pulled the trigger, not the gun. The media and the anti gun lobby always try to to blaim Guns and or assault rifles when these shootings occur. What they fail to mention is that mentally ill people are responsible for these attacks.Millions of these assault rifles are already in the hands of law abiding citizens, and they don't go out shooting up malls or Wal marts.

Yeah, Trump should consult a psychiatrist.

 

[hjmick]

According to the FBI, only 25% (that's 1 in 4 for the mathematically challenged) of these mass shooters has been diagnosed with a mental illness prior to pulling the trigger.

Now, for those of you about to chime in and say, "SEE!! THREE OUT OF FOUR ARE NOT CRAZY!!" You're wrong, read all the words... just because they haven't been diagnosed does not make them sane....

Anyone who says to themselves, "Hey, I know, shooting up my local <insert popular institution here> and killing an ass load of people is a great idea" is fucking crazy...

 

[Wry Catcher]

Have you checked reality lately?

All day and over the weekend. You had Elizabeth Warren, Beto O'Rourke and Cory Booker abating the usual lies about Trump.

What did they claim, and how did you evaluate they lied?

 

[2aguy]

Have you checked reality lately?

All day and over the weekend. You had Elizabeth Warren, Beto O'Rourke and Cory Booker abating the usual lies about Trump.

The Ohio shooter was a democrat supporter of Elizabeth Warren......

 

[Neil Austen]

Trump says, "Mental illness and hatred pulls the trigger, not the gun." So he will do absolutely nothing about the gun crisis.
And by that logic, I should be able to own a nuclear missile. Nuclear missiles don't blow people up, people who like to push buttons do.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Have you checked reality lately?

All day and over the weekend. You had Elizabeth Warren, Beto O'Rourke and Cory Booker abating the usual lies about Trump.

The Ohio shooter was a democrat supporter of Elizabeth Warren......

Did he have a gun? That's the point, which as usual flew well over your head.

 

[2aguy]

Trump says, "Mental illness and hatred pulls the trigger, not the gun." So he will do absolutely nothing about the gun crisis.
And by that logic, I should be able to own a nuclear missile. Nuclear missiles don't blow people up, people who like to push buttons do.

There is no gun crisis....in 2018 there were 12 mass public shootings with 93 people killed......that is not a crisis.....we have a country of over 320 million people....

320,000,000 vs. 93

Keep in mind, 38,000 people died in car accidents......according to you that makes it a car crisis....

3,500 people will die in pools......that makes it a pool crisis...

Knives were used to murder 1,500 people...and that many people are murdered by knives every single year....

We have a criminal crisis created by the democrat party.

Do you understand that in the major cities where gun crime is an actual problem, we have democrat judges letting repeat, violent gun offenders out of jail on Individual Recognizance Bonds......and democrat prosecutors are bargaining away gun charges, and democrat politicians are using laws to reduce the sentences for gun crimes...

Address that, and 99% of our gun crime goes away.

 

[Justin Richardson]

What did they claim, and how did you evaluate they lied?

Democrats Blame Trump in Blunt Language for Mass Shooting in El Paso

 

[2aguy]

Have you checked reality lately?

All day and over the weekend. You had Elizabeth Warren, Beto O'Rourke and Cory Booker abating the usual lies about Trump.

The Ohio shooter was a democrat supporter of Elizabeth Warren......

Did he have a gun? That's the point, which as usual flew well over your head.

Close to 2,000,000 people have guns and over 17.25 million carry guns for self defense.....

Your point...?

 

[Pilot1]

I guess it is OK when these nut jobs use bombs, huh? How about we ban them?

 

[2aguy]

Trump says, "Mental illness and hatred pulls the trigger, not the gun." So he will do absolutely nothing about the gun crisis.
And by that logic, I should be able to own a nuclear missile. Nuclear missiles don't blow people up, people who like to push buttons do.

When gun murder goes down 49%, gun crime down 75%, and violent crime goes down 72% as more Americans not only own guns but carry them for self defense...we do not have a gun crisis...

Over the last 26 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[georgephillip]

The President is right when he says Mental illness pulled the trigger, not the gun. The media and the anti gun lobby always try to to blaim Guns and or assault rifles when these shootings occur. What they fail to mention is that mentally ill people are responsible for these attacks.Millions of these assault rifles are already in the hands of law abiding citizens, and they don't go out shooting up malls or Wal marts.

The President is right when he says Mental illness pulled the trigger, not the gun. The media and the anti gun lobby always try to to blaim Guns and or assault rifles when these shootings occur. What they fail to mention is that mentally ill people are responsible for these attacks.Millions of these assault rifles are already in the hands of law abiding citizens, and they don't go out shooting up malls or Wal marts

This president has personal experience with mental illness, but there's little indication he has any understanding of its consequences. In the case of El Paso, a white supremacist drove ten hours from his home to kill Mexicans in a Walmart. Put the blame where it belongs: white-skinned gun pussies and their pussy-grabbing enablers.

The First White President

 

[2aguy]

The President is right when he says Mental illness pulled the trigger, not the gun. The media and the anti gun lobby always try to to blaim Guns and or assault rifles when these shootings occur. What they fail to mention is that mentally ill people are responsible for these attacks.Millions of these assault rifles are already in the hands of law abiding citizens, and they don't go out shooting up malls or Wal marts.

The President is right when he says Mental illness pulled the trigger, not the gun. The media and the anti gun lobby always try to to blaim Guns and or assault rifles when these shootings occur. What they fail to mention is that mentally ill people are responsible for these attacks.Millions of these assault rifles are already in the hands of law abiding citizens, and they don't go out shooting up malls or Wal marts

This president has personal experience with mental illness, but there's little indication he has any understanding of its consequences. In the case of El Paso, a white supremacist drove ten hours from his home to kill Mexicans in a Walmart. Put the blame where it belongs: white-skinned gun pussies and their pussy-grabbing enablers.

The First White President

The El Paso shooter stated Trump had nothing to do with his beliefs....and he was an environmental extremist who attacked in defense of the environment...no matter how many times you guys lie about what happened, the truth will come out...

The Ohio Shooter was a left wing democrat who supported Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders.....he also supported gun control....