Assholes making trouble in Oregon

[flacaltenn]

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There's still a discussion here. But I got 20 posts marked for deletions..
Zone3 is NOT the place to discuss old drama at USMB or have long side discussions on members.
Cut it out..

If y'all want to rehash good times -- take it to the FZone..

 

[flacaltenn]

bump.. re-opened.

 

[bodecea]

Interesting.

 

[bodecea]

Yawn. The feds have no authority and neither does old fag. It's not your land. It belongs to the people of Harney county.

It belongs to the people of the USA, you silly bitch.

No it doesn't, commie retard. It belongs to the people of Harney county. Feds don't have the authority to own land outside of art 1 section 8 clause 17. Entitlement junkies need to stay in their own counties and create their own refuges. The land in Harney county belongs to the people of Harney county, and nobody else.

Nope. Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17 says no such thing. Here's the clause:

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of Particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;

Please note the term 'other needful buildings. Remembering of course, that you don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about.

Lol...sin e when is a gift shop a needful building for the operation of govt? I'm sure the owners would be willing to allow a fish and game guy to maintain the gift shop

Laughing....so per your argument, the ONLY structure that the militia thugs can occupy is the 'gift shop'?

It went from one abandoned building to.........

 

[koshergrl]

Yawn. The feds have no authority and neither does old fag. It's not your land. It belongs to the people of Harney county.

It belongs to the people of the USA, you silly bitch.

No it doesn't, commie retard. It belongs to the people of Harney county. Feds don't have the authority to own land outside of art 1 section 8 clause 17. Entitlement junkies need to stay in their own counties and create their own refuges. The land in Harney county belongs to the people of Harney county, and nobody else.

Nope. Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17 says no such thing. Here's the clause:

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of Particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;

Please note the term 'other needful buildings. Remembering of course, that you don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about.

Lol...sin e when is a gift shop a needful building for the operation of govt? I'm sure the owners would be willing to allow a fish and game guy to maintain the gift shop

Laughing....so per your argument, the ONLY structure that the militia thugs can occupy is the 'gift shop'?

I have no idea where you came up with that. No, per my argument nothing of the kind. You appear to be engaging in the sort of random.association trolling that bode is famous for..where you just say something completely unrelated to anything that has been said, and pretend it originated.somewhere outside of your own fogged brain. So again, no, that isn't an argument I made, and it doesn't follow anything I've said.

 

[Skylar]

It belongs to the people of the USA, you silly bitch.

No it doesn't, commie retard. It belongs to the people of Harney county. Feds don't have the authority to own land outside of art 1 section 8 clause 17. Entitlement junkies need to stay in their own counties and create their own refuges. The land in Harney county belongs to the people of Harney county, and nobody else.

Nope. Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17 says no such thing. Here's the clause:

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of Particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;

Please note the term 'other needful buildings. Remembering of course, that you don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about.

Lol...sin e when is a gift shop a needful building for the operation of govt? I'm sure the owners would be willing to allow a fish and game guy to maintain the gift shop

Laughing....so per your argument, the ONLY structure that the militia thugs can occupy is the 'gift shop'?

I have no idea where you came up with that. No, per my argument nothing of the kind.

The militia is occupying the officers, occupying the maintenance garages (and stealing government vehicles), occupying the government records storage. All 'necessary buildings'.

So if those buildings would be covered by the constitution.....why, pray tell, are the militia occupying them?

 

[koshergrl]

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1689279827979934&id=1401869896720930

 

[Skylar]

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1689279827979934&id=1401869896720930

Yeah, OPB has no record of that interview. Nor is it anywhere on the Oregon Republican Party website.

Search | Oregon Republican Party

The only place you'll find those quotes....is from 'Sputnik News'.

Oregon Republicans will continue to endorse the Oregon militia’s conduct in seizing federal land in the state, Oregon Republican Party Chairman Bill Currier told Sputnik on Friday

Read more: Oregon Republicans Express Support for Militia's Actions

And what is Sputnik News?

Sputnik is an international multimedia service launched on 10 November 2014 by Rossiya Segodnya, an agency wholly owned and operated by the Russian government, which was created by a Decree of the President of Russia on December 9, 2013.
Sputnik (news agency) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Laughing....way to cite baseless Russian government propaganda, Comrade.

You would be the proverbial 'useful idiot' in that regard.

 

[koshergrl]

 

[Dot Com]

hearsay

^^^Asshat

^^ASSCLOWN

 

[Dot Com]

These people need to be "put down" hard and fast. Play time is over

Oregon ranchers who sparked standoff threatened to wrap official’s son in barbed wire and drown him

 

[Old Rocks]

People in Burns want the assholes out of the Refuge, and out of the county.

 

[Old Rocks]

Standoff leader posted a video of him looking through artifacts and documents from the Paiute tribe at the Malheur national wildlife refuge, sparking outrage

LaVoy Finicum posted a video of himself inside a government building looking through cardboard boxes of papers and other items associated with the Paiute tribe. Photograph: Rex/Shutterstock
The militiamen stationed at a federal wildlife refuge in eastern Oregon are now rummaging through artifacts and documents of the Paiute tribe, sparking outrage among local Native Americans whose ancestors originally occupied the land.
LaVoy Finicum, one of the leaders of the armed protesters occupying the Malheur national wildlife refuge, posted a video of himself inside a government building looking through cardboard boxes of papers and other items associated with the local tribe – and inviting Paiute leaders to meet with the militia and reclaim their belongings.
“We want to make sure these things are returned to their rightful owner,” said Finicum, who recently helped destroy a US Fish and Wildlife Service fence andremove cameras that he claimed the government was using for surveillance.

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The rightwing militia, led by Ammon Bundy, took over the headquarters of the wildlifesanctuary on 2 January to protest the government’s land-use regulations in rural Harney County. They have demanded that local ranchers have control of public lands – not the federal government.

[FONT=Guardian Text Egyptian Web, Georgia, serif]Fresh outrage after militia seen rifling through tribal artifacts at Oregon refuge[/FONT]

More criminal behavior.

 

[Old Rocks]

But ol' Kosher still thinks that these are really nice people. The people in Burns and Harney County want them out, the people in Oregon want them out, and the citizens of the US want them out. And sane people want to see them spend a long time in the iron bar hotel.

 

[koshergrl]

Burns is where the corrupt officials dwell. It's full of maggot forest service and blm and county losers and their loser families....generally either on disability or otherwise dependent on govt. The refuge is 30 miles or maybe 40 from the city of Burns. it brings in about fifty birders a year. The people of burns are but a portion of Harney County and they are not the majority.

So the real meeting, that was supportive of the protest and thankful to the Bundys, met and talked with the Bundys. The group was cordial, and articulate, and engaged in a true heartfelt exchange of ideas and consideration of their options. Their bottom line is that they will not condemn the message the Bundys are sending because they agree. They won't condone the occupation because it isn't prudent to do so. But they want grasty and the Fed's out, and they want the Hammonds out. They are willing, perhaps, to tolerate a certain amt of governmental presence but they are going to continue their support of the protest...and perhaps escalate it....if the Hammond aren't returned home.

If the Hammonds had sold their land to the Feds...They would not be in jail. And there are thousands more stories like theirs.

Oh there were three hundred to, I guess 400 ppl at the community meeting....there were around aa200 at grastys pep rally....and of the two hundred (it didn't look like that many to me) at grastys meeting, maybe one hundred ...counting the county employees and forest service and refuge supporters, press, and law enforcement...were not in support of protest.

 

[Old Rocks]

Kosher, you are an asshole liar. And you blanket set of lies about the people in Burns and Harney County proves just what a liar you are. Now they are going through the Paiute artifacts, and will probably be trying to sell them, or use the destruction of those artifacts as a bargaining chip to try to avoid many years in a federal pen.

 

[Old Rocks]

Thousands of people every year visit the Malhuer Refuge. And many hunt there in the carefully controlled hunts for big game and certain waterfowl. Kosher doesn't know the Refuge, obviously doesn't know the people of Harney County.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Anyone rescue the lawn furniture yet?

 

[Old Rocks]

Look, Gramps, we have enough trouble with the felons at the Refuge without bothering to answer those on this board.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Look, Gramps, we have enough trouble with the felons at the Refuge without bothering to answer those on this board.

GO massage your pussy & shut up