At this moment, this Presidency is not going well

[okfine]

Much to your dismay right comrade?
Go fuck yourself you leftist bigot. Trump is doing a good job, and if that sociopath hag you supported had won, we'd be in the 11th year of the longest recession ever.

Powerful, impressive stuff there.

Perhaps you can point out some specific areas of disagreement.
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The article was not written in good faith so why would it warrant a reasonable answer? If you can't see that you need some glasses. It's a full on attack piece on Trump and nothing more.

By the way, why is there no link? I suspect the link would reveal the not so reasonable origins of the author....

It's not an article, there is no link, that's just me.
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Looks legit to me. I doubt some actually read it because they can't see past the end of their nose.

 

[RealDave]

Also, I had read in the general sense....higher taxes make businesses smarter.... I know that seems dumb, but .... when they owe higher taxes, they find ways to spend their money, that is tax deductible, like paying their employees more or hiring or finding ways on expanding their businesses.... they'd rather do that, then just hand their money from profit, over to the govt when taxes are high.... is what some think....

You are very wise.

When the corporate rate was 35%, a company would weigh paying that 35% tax or spending money on tax deductible items like those that depreciated over time.

Now that number is 21%. So less likely that these types of decisions are made.

What are Corps doing with their extra cash? Buying other comanies & buying back their stock.

Handing companies money does not mean they hire more people.

 

[Olde Europe]

Also, I had read in the general sense....higher taxes make businesses smarter.... I know that seems dumb, but .... when they owe higher taxes, they find ways to spend their money, that is tax deductible, like paying their employees more or hiring or finding ways on expanding their businesses.... they'd rather do that, then just hand their money from profit, over to the govt when taxes are high.... is what some think....

Yep, if they invest in order to avoid taxes, it's a win. Otherwise, and contrary to what the anti-tax fundamentalists suggest, tax revenue isn't disposed off in some landfill, never to be seen again, but also spent, that is, being returned into the economy in some more or less growth stimulating way. Doesn't stop the goofs' spluttering apoplexy, though.

 

[Muhammed]

No you didn’t, you posted a bunch of talking points with nothing but conjecture. Is unemployment lowest in 60 years yes or no? Let’s start there

Yes it is. Unfortunately, it's not driving either growth or inflation. Treasury yields have crashed. The Fed is having to drop rates to deal with weakness. Consumer and corporate debt are getting high. Markets are nervous and expecting further cuts, like 50bps.

This is my profession. If you want to try this, you'll have to do better than talk radio platitudes and simplistic data.

Go ahead.
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Manufacturing has contracted for the first time in nearly a decade.

Manufacturing sector contracts for the first time in nearly a decade

Housing starts are down for a third straight month.

U.S. housing market mired in weakness; consumer sentiment ebbs - Reuters

This isn't good and are very big red flags.

PHAKE NOOZ
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It seems you are playing for both teams?

I have no use for either team.
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Your cheerleader uniform with a jackass emblazoned on it belies that statement.

 

[Mac1958]

Yes it is. Unfortunately, it's not driving either growth or inflation. Treasury yields have crashed. The Fed is having to drop rates to deal with weakness. Consumer and corporate debt are getting high. Markets are nervous and expecting further cuts, like 50bps.

This is my profession. If you want to try this, you'll have to do better than talk radio platitudes and simplistic data.

Go ahead.
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Manufacturing has contracted for the first time in nearly a decade.

Manufacturing sector contracts for the first time in nearly a decade

Housing starts are down for a third straight month.

U.S. housing market mired in weakness; consumer sentiment ebbs - Reuters

This isn't good and are very big red flags.

PHAKE NOOZ
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It seems you are playing for both teams?

I have no use for either team.
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Your cheerleader uniform with a jackass emblazoned on it belies that statement.

Yes, I hear that one from both ends.

Wingers. Peas in a pod.
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[Olde Europe]

Please post up video or at least direct quotes of this.

I'll wait.

Clinton admitted she's for 'open borders' in paid, private speech: WikiLeaks I can't do links so I copy and paste.

So, unless you were one of those banksters at that paid, private speech, you lied to us:

Sorry, I SAW and HEARD her-that's when I changed my vote!

BS-I saw her on video-read the GOD DAMN post I put out! You wanted proof you got it! Now SHUT UP!

No one so much as claims there is video of the speech. All there is are transcripts.

And you are lying again, and lying about your lying.

BTW, dummy, do you think putting your lies in bigger fonts makes them more appealing, or true, somehow?

You and that guy Dave Hunt need to find yourself a girl or each other, so you stop bothering me with your stupid, petty bullshit. And the fonts are for my fading eyesight butt munch. If I do run across that video in the future-I expect a BIG apology!

Yeah, you know, dummy, you owe the forum an apology for lying. Also one for being so horribly bad and transparent about it. What you may have seen is a debate when the question of a dream of open borders was brought up, and that had your tiny brain confused about what you saw.

Some, you dolt, have memories long enough actually to remember when these things unfolded. You don't, and that's the main reason why you really, really should not lie, because if you do, you regularly fall on your red, honking nose.

 

[Dick Foster]

Not that it really matters to some, but we're not really in a good place at the moment. Things could turn, and most of us continue to hope for the best. But, as of early morning, August 24, here we are:

The Economy
While the unemployment figures look very good on their face, they are clearly not translating to growth, especially at the cost of the exploding deficit that temporarily goosed the economy. GDP is currently at 2.1%, but we can certainly remain hopeful that it will reverse course and increase. There have been spotty signs that growth-push inflation may be ticking up, but the trade war is clearly effecting sentiment (not to mention data) at a terribly delicate moment. Right now, this is a decent economy, at best, with consumers lacking the resources to push it and their household debt above 2008 levels.

Trade With China
Our President doesn't appear to understand that China is paying attention. They realize quite well that he's trying to bully them into a trade deal, like an eight-year old boy trying to bully another child out of their lunch at the playground. Meanwhile, Trump exhibits zero (0) understanding of the fact that China can theoretically out-wait us here, since they don't have those pesky elections to worry about all that much if the populace gets pissed off. While anything is certainly possible, it's tough to imagine China making any long term commitments until after they see who they're dealing with in January of 2021.

International Relations
Our President has not only isolated himself and his country from the rest of the world with his actions, but also with his petulant behaviors. Even for those of us who have done all we can to lower our standards and expectations of his child-like behavior, the thought of this goofy, pointless dust-up with Denmark (Denmark!) makes us wonder if this man can get along with anyone outside his base. Meanwhile, the crazy fat kid in North Korea is shooting off rockets like he's in charge of the Fourth of July celebration at the park. Like China, the world is clearly looking ahead, with hope, to November 2020.

The Wall
Trump's signature, paranoid, shallow, hyper-simplistic election issue piece isn't exactly flying up with checks to pay for it coming in from Mexico. Even with the White House, House and Senate, this President wasn't able to do much more than slap up a few new two by fours to fix some areas of our existing wall. Any completely "new" wall is spotty at best, and now he's ready to steal cash from one place to placate his base with a few miles of a much less Trumpish wall here and there. Gee, great, so much for that idea. I guess "Build! The! Wall!" could still serve as a standby rally chant when needed.

Race
Well, examining this topic is most likely a waste of time here, since there are many on this board who are telling us that racism no longer exists, or it's fake news, or that if you don't show up to work wearing a white hood you can't be a racist. What a disaster. And minorities are supposed to ignore all of it, because the unemployment rate is down at the moment. While the sycophants continue to run interference for the President Who Doesn't Know Who David Duke is, the rest of the country and the rest of the world are simply not buying the bullshit. But it sure sounds good on talk radio.

The silver lining? By far the most "successful" component of the Trump years will probably turn out to be the courts. The SC is in good shape for them, and they now have the added bonus of hoping that Ruth is quickly ravaged by cancer and dies soon. Ditto (no pun intended) for the lower courts, the nominations of which don't make much news but sure look like Sean Hannity picked 'em.

Could the economy turn back up? Yes, definitely, hopefully, but some kind of GOOD trade deal with China is now pretty much mandatory for that to happen. The Courts are the Courts. They'll probably be able to gather enough Lego™ blocks to build enough of a wall somewhere to keep talk radio and the base happy. International Relations? Race Relations? Pffffft. Who cares. Fake news.
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You know if you place the palm of each hand on each cheek of your ass then push really really hard, your head may just pop out.

 

[Mac1958]

Not that it really matters to some, but we're not really in a good place at the moment. Things could turn, and most of us continue to hope for the best. But, as of early morning, August 24, here we are:

The Economy
While the unemployment figures look very good on their face, they are clearly not translating to growth, especially at the cost of the exploding deficit that temporarily goosed the economy. GDP is currently at 2.1%, but we can certainly remain hopeful that it will reverse course and increase. There have been spotty signs that growth-push inflation may be ticking up, but the trade war is clearly effecting sentiment (not to mention data) at a terribly delicate moment. Right now, this is a decent economy, at best, with consumers lacking the resources to push it and their household debt above 2008 levels.

Trade With China
Our President doesn't appear to understand that China is paying attention. They realize quite well that he's trying to bully them into a trade deal, like an eight-year old boy trying to bully another child out of their lunch at the playground. Meanwhile, Trump exhibits zero (0) understanding of the fact that China can theoretically out-wait us here, since they don't have those pesky elections to worry about all that much if the populace gets pissed off. While anything is certainly possible, it's tough to imagine China making any long term commitments until after they see who they're dealing with in January of 2021.

International Relations
Our President has not only isolated himself and his country from the rest of the world with his actions, but also with his petulant behaviors. Even for those of us who have done all we can to lower our standards and expectations of his child-like behavior, the thought of this goofy, pointless dust-up with Denmark (Denmark!) makes us wonder if this man can get along with anyone outside his base. Meanwhile, the crazy fat kid in North Korea is shooting off rockets like he's in charge of the Fourth of July celebration at the park. Like China, the world is clearly looking ahead, with hope, to November 2020.

The Wall
Trump's signature, paranoid, shallow, hyper-simplistic election issue piece isn't exactly flying up with checks to pay for it coming in from Mexico. Even with the White House, House and Senate, this President wasn't able to do much more than slap up a few new two by fours to fix some areas of our existing wall. Any completely "new" wall is spotty at best, and now he's ready to steal cash from one place to placate his base with a few miles of a much less Trumpish wall here and there. Gee, great, so much for that idea. I guess "Build! The! Wall!" could still serve as a standby rally chant when needed.

Race
Well, examining this topic is most likely a waste of time here, since there are many on this board who are telling us that racism no longer exists, or it's fake news, or that if you don't show up to work wearing a white hood you can't be a racist. What a disaster. And minorities are supposed to ignore all of it, because the unemployment rate is down at the moment. While the sycophants continue to run interference for the President Who Doesn't Know Who David Duke is, the rest of the country and the rest of the world are simply not buying the bullshit. But it sure sounds good on talk radio.

The silver lining? By far the most "successful" component of the Trump years will probably turn out to be the courts. The SC is in good shape for them, and they now have the added bonus of hoping that Ruth is quickly ravaged by cancer and dies soon. Ditto (no pun intended) for the lower courts, the nominations of which don't make much news but sure look like Sean Hannity picked 'em.

Could the economy turn back up? Yes, definitely, hopefully, but some kind of GOOD trade deal with China is now pretty much mandatory for that to happen. The Courts are the Courts. They'll probably be able to gather enough Lego™ blocks to build enough of a wall somewhere to keep talk radio and the base happy. International Relations? Race Relations? Pffffft. Who cares. Fake news.
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You know if you place the palm of each hand on each cheek of your ass then push really really hard, your head may just pop out.

A powerful and thoughtful response, for a Trumpster.

Well done, thanks.
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[Redfish]

After 8 years of the Obama Administration taking businesses to court, harassing conservatives with the IRS, spying on private citizens by the White House, giving technology and paying billions in reparations to our enemies, along with throwing people in jail for being critics, you think the presidency is in a bad place now????

Yes. And I provided specific examples.

"But Obama" would be a weak retort.
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Actually it's a strong retort. Comparing the two administrations tends to cancel out alot of complaints being made against the current one. Especially when you take into consideration that Congress refuses to cooperate in any shape or form with Trump. Most of the problems begin with this refusal to do what is best for the people of THIS country in favor of generating a new constituency thru human - trafficking.

And the GOP Congress refused to cooperate with Obama.

My examples are all Trump-specific, all of them. We can pretend they are not, we can try to change the subject, but that would be lying.
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totally wrong, obama shut them out, refused to talk with them, remember "we won" and "republicans need to go to the back of the bus" ?

the refusal to negotiate and compromise was coming from the dictator wannabe obozo the great.

your grasp of recent history is amazingly lacking.

You've kinda got that backwards. I mean yes, something similar to that was said, but you got the order backwards. That sentiment was expressed after years of republican obstructionism and leaks about how they determined to block every single Obama initiative even if they thought it was a good idea and secret back room meetings on inauguration night.

bullshit, Newt and the GOP worked with clinton and got things done, the dems refused to work with Bush and are refusing to work with Trump.

the only obama ideas that were blocked were his stupid socialist attempts to destroy this country.

 

[Dana7360]

Thanks Mac for your analysis.

My problem with China stealing technology from our tech companies, is that why is this our gvts problem? The tech companies left the U.S. to manufacture there... if they don't like it and can't control it.... they can leave.

Isn't that their cost, of doing business there? They can pick up and leave...

While Lobstermen here and farmers here spent their own business' s money cultivating good business relationships for their own industry are the ones being hurt

Well, the tech-stealing problem is wider and deeper than the location of our businesses. When they steal our tech, they dilute its global value, and that's a direct financial assault on our businesses. I can see a President defending our businesses and trying to stop this, but (a) I don't know how the hell this can be fixed when they're just not going to play fair, and (b) the only way Trump knows to address a problem is to beat on it with a club.

So the tariff situation can be "fixed", but I don't know what to do about tech theft overall.
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"I don't know" is the laudable response. You truly do speak for the majority. By discussing the ownership of "gvts" and "businesses" as though equivalent. It's all just "our" stuff, right? Exxon, Springfield Township, WalMart, etc. No wonder we appear so fucked.

I'm not exactly sure what you're saying there, but I do think there are times when the best interests of both government and business are intertwined.
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Oh my, sure you wanna venture so far out on that limb! "When they steal our tech, they dilute its global value, and that's a direct financial assault on our businesses." Try this instead for a change: When these multinational corporations (ie stateless... not "ours" in any genuine sense) moved THEIR manufacturing (ie, our jobs) to a place with cheaper labor and purely for profit,.. what did you expect those new workers to do.. just sit around with their thumbs up their asses?

How do others steal "our tech" from within their own country? How did it get there? How was it ever really "ours" to begin with? How much in royalties have you personally lost as a result?

"a direct financial assault on our businesses" - Which are "ours"? How do you know?

I still don't know what you're trying to say here.

Maybe just make a clear point.
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From what I can see from that person's posts they are saying that business is having to lay in the bed of their own making and trump is throwing a fit.

If that's what the poster is saying, they have a very good point.

 

[Third Party]

China has been using questionable trade tactics for years, hijacking American business.

And Trump is the bully? Do these leftist morons always root with any other possible nation than America, regardless of their activities?

Trump thinks he can keep upping tariffs & force China to yield.

He could give a rat's ass as to the damage to American Farmers, American manufacturing or the American people.

How fucking stupid are you if your success would mean the destruction of your customer's economy?

so why isn't China coming to the table if that is all true? why aren't you asking that question, you anti american hack.

Why should China bend to stupid ass bullying.

Trump is sofa king stupid he thinks trade deficits are losses.

China caved-its over

 

[Third Party]

Manufacturing has contracted for the first time in nearly a decade.

Manufacturing sector contracts for the first time in nearly a decade

Housing starts are down for a third straight month.

U.S. housing market mired in weakness; consumer sentiment ebbs - Reuters

This isn't good and are very big red flags.

PHAKE NOOZ
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It seems you are playing for both teams?

I have no use for either team.
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Your cheerleader uniform with a jackass emblazoned on it belies that statement.

Yes, I hear that one from both ends.

Wingers. Peas in a pod.
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Very interesting...

 

[mudwhistle]

Yes it is. Unfortunately, it's not driving either growth or inflation. Treasury yields have crashed. The Fed is having to drop rates to deal with weakness. Consumer and corporate debt are getting high. Markets are nervous and expecting further cuts, like 50bps.

This is my profession. If you want to try this, you'll have to do better than talk radio platitudes and simplistic data.

Go ahead.
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Why do you suppose that is? He’s having to do it on his own, no gop no dem wanting the success. Feds raised interest rates for no reason! Fact that curbed growth when it wasn’t needed And you’re bitching at trump. Again two words

He's a wanna be King, he is NOT a Leader.

Leaders take advice from their advisors, they don't fire them so they can put in simply yes men.

Trump is in, WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY over his head, and has no idea what to do about it, because he won't rely on those who have more expertise than he ever could... he's woefully unfit for the job.... and proving it daily, to those who have eyes to see, and ears to hear.

Notice the White House daily briefing doesn't happen anymore and hasn't for months.
It's been replaced by Trump himself, in the driveway or WH lawn on his way to Marine One.

It's like Bill Maher said last night: the only difference between a cranky, demented old man standing on his lawn with a garden hose and shouting at people is the suit. Trump wears a suit instead of what he really should be wearing: a bathrobe.

All of his WH appointments are "Acting...." He likes keeping people in limbo. Only insufferable sycophants like Barr and Pompeo get the actual full title.

He has no idea what the fuck he's doing with China and the trade war, immigration, health care or anything else. He's just winging it, buying time and feeding manure to the MAGA mushrooms.

The reason why there are so many "acting" members of the Trump Administration is that the libs refuse to move them right through and try to block them from being confirmed. If the GOP hadn't retained the Senate in 2018, they'd all be "acting" by now.

Although there are also a lot of vacancies in the administration. A lot of departments are top heavy, and leaving positions unfilled makes things run smoother.

That is simply NOT TRUE. He has "Acting" heads, because he has NO SUGGESTIONS or people he has found to replace the Department heads that he has fired or just quit on him because they could not take him anymore!

Every time he and his team picks another replacement, they have not even bothered to vet them on qualifications or secret scandals.... his hiring team is inept.... just plain lousy, to say the least.

He also has more power over the "Actings", they are not Advisors, as the Head position is suppose to be.... he likes making all decisions, instead of the "Two heads are better than one" proven theory and

Biblical theory as well....

New International Version
The way of fools seems right to them, but the wise listen to advice.

New Living Translation
Fools think their own way is right, but the wise listen to others.

English Standard Version
The way of a fool is right in his own eyes, but a wise man listens to advice.

Maybe you should pay attention to your own quotes.

Trump has the same problem everyone else has........finding Jesus Christ.

I don't think there is anyone out there that is so perfect that the corrupt media can't find dirt on them. If they can't find dirt they simply make shit up....as they did with Bret Kavanaugh.

 

[Third Party]

Clinton admitted she's for 'open borders' in paid, private speech: WikiLeaks I can't do links so I copy and paste.

So, unless you were one of those banksters at that paid, private speech, you lied to us:

Sorry, I SAW and HEARD her-that's when I changed my vote!

BS-I saw her on video-read the GOD DAMN post I put out! You wanted proof you got it! Now SHUT UP!

No one so much as claims there is video of the speech. All there is are transcripts.

And you are lying again, and lying about your lying.

BTW, dummy, do you think putting your lies in bigger fonts makes them more appealing, or true, somehow?

You and that guy Dave Hunt need to find yourself a girl or each other, so you stop bothering me with your stupid, petty bullshit. And the fonts are for my fading eyesight butt munch. If I do run across that video in the future-I expect a BIG apology!

Yeah, you know, dummy, you owe the forum an apology for lying. Also one for being so horribly bad and transparent about it. What you may have seen is a debate when the question of a dream of open borders was brought up, and that had your tiny brain confused about what you saw.

Some, you dolt, have memories long enough actually to remember when these things unfolded. You don't, and that's the main reason why you really, really should not lie, because if you do, you regularly fall on your red, honking nose.

Guess what-if YOU don't like what I post, don't read it. And I would like to see you name call the rest of the group as much as you do me-or are you afraid? Sure I saw the debates and Clinton's disclaimer-what was she disclaiming then? Can your little mind conceive that the video was shown, I saw it and then it was withdrawn-probably not. As far as lying goes, never needed to, but it sounds like you will do anything to win an argument and you are hung up on the word lying why? Do you do it and then project? I saw Jackie Robinson at a drug seminar, I have NO VIDEO, so that never happened? The people there are mostly dead now, so you can call liar liar pants on fire if you choose, but then the small trust any of have on this board is diminished-yours included-do what you want-I no longer value your imput

 

[Care4all]

Yes. And I provided specific examples.

"But Obama" would be a weak retort.
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Actually it's a strong retort. Comparing the two administrations tends to cancel out alot of complaints being made against the current one. Especially when you take into consideration that Congress refuses to cooperate in any shape or form with Trump. Most of the problems begin with this refusal to do what is best for the people of THIS country in favor of generating a new constituency thru human - trafficking.

And the GOP Congress refused to cooperate with Obama.

My examples are all Trump-specific, all of them. We can pretend they are not, we can try to change the subject, but that would be lying.
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totally wrong, obama shut them out, refused to talk with them, remember "we won" and "republicans need to go to the back of the bus" ?

the refusal to negotiate and compromise was coming from the dictator wannabe obozo the great.

your grasp of recent history is amazingly lacking.

You've kinda got that backwards. I mean yes, something similar to that was said, but you got the order backwards. That sentiment was expressed after years of republican obstructionism and leaks about how they determined to block every single Obama initiative even if they thought it was a good idea and secret back room meetings on inauguration night.

bullshit, Newt and the GOP worked with clinton and got things done, the dems refused to work with Bush and are refusing to work with Trump.

the only obama ideas that were blocked were his stupid socialist attempts to destroy this country.

THE Dems worked with Bush the last 2 years of his 8 years, when they got control back of both houses in Congress.... why are you saying they didn't?

Dems alone passed Bill Clinton's financial plan to get the USA back on track, including the tax hike on the top level.
2 years later when Gingrich became speaker and repubs won the house, Clinton had the line item veto, so Gingrich worked with Clinton on cutting the spending legislation.

 

[jc456]

sure, make the tax cuts permanent for starters,

Further harming the economy...

then correct the immigration laws

Further harming the economy...

maybe help their constituents and their jobs?

Haha...what a great idea! Should they also ensure world peace and end world hunger? Why hasn't anyone thought of this?!?!?

can't make it up!!!

Thanks,

This doofus thinks raising taxes helps economies. with stupid like that the world is doomed.

It did with Clinton.... he raised the highest bracket to 39% when he first got in, Citizens/consumers/businesses got confidence from the move, that our gvt was finally serious about paying the debts from spending we owed.

what happened when Newt came around? hmmmmm? when did it take off? hmmmmmmm

The surplus went …. poof.

why was that?

 

[jc456]

Actually it's a strong retort. Comparing the two administrations tends to cancel out alot of complaints being made against the current one. Especially when you take into consideration that Congress refuses to cooperate in any shape or form with Trump. Most of the problems begin with this refusal to do what is best for the people of THIS country in favor of generating a new constituency thru human - trafficking.

And the GOP Congress refused to cooperate with Obama.

My examples are all Trump-specific, all of them. We can pretend they are not, we can try to change the subject, but that would be lying.
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totally wrong, obama shut them out, refused to talk with them, remember "we won" and "republicans need to go to the back of the bus" ?

the refusal to negotiate and compromise was coming from the dictator wannabe obozo the great.

your grasp of recent history is amazingly lacking.

You've kinda got that backwards. I mean yes, something similar to that was said, but you got the order backwards. That sentiment was expressed after years of republican obstructionism and leaks about how they determined to block every single Obama initiative even if they thought it was a good idea and secret back room meetings on inauguration night.

bullshit, Newt and the GOP worked with clinton and got things done, the dems refused to work with Bush and are refusing to work with Trump.

the only obama ideas that were blocked were his stupid socialist attempts to destroy this country.

THE Dems worked with Bush the last 2 years of his 8 years, when they got control back of both houses in Congress.... why are you saying they didn't?

Dems alone passed Bill Clinton's financial plan to get the USA back on track, including the tax hike on the top level.
2 years later when Gingrich became speaker and repubs won the house, Clinton had the line item veto, so Gingrich worked with Clinton on cutting the spending legislation.

so you agree they were as much responsible as bush for the melt down right?

 

[jc456]

China has been using questionable trade tactics for years, hijacking American business.

And Trump is the bully? Do these leftist morons always root with any other possible nation than America, regardless of their activities?

Trump thinks he can keep upping tariffs & force China to yield.

He could give a rat's ass as to the damage to American Farmers, American manufacturing or the American people.

How fucking stupid are you if your success would mean the destruction of your customer's economy?

so why isn't China coming to the table if that is all true? why aren't you asking that question, you anti american hack.

Why should China bend to stupid ass bullying.

Trump is sofa king stupid he thinks trade deficits are losses.

for the good of America is why the bullying. you rooting for china?

 

[jc456]

Also, I had read in the general sense....higher taxes make businesses smarter.... I know that seems dumb, but .... when they owe higher taxes, they find ways to spend their money, that is tax deductible, like paying their employees more or hiring or finding ways on expanding their businesses.... they'd rather do that, then just hand their money from profit, over to the govt when taxes are high.... is what some think....

they take it off shore so it can't be taxed. Again, the lack of knowledge with you idiots is amazing.

 

[mudwhistle]

Actually it's a strong retort. Comparing the two administrations tends to cancel out alot of complaints being made against the current one. Especially when you take into consideration that Congress refuses to cooperate in any shape or form with Trump. Most of the problems begin with this refusal to do what is best for the people of THIS country in favor of generating a new constituency thru human - trafficking.

And the GOP Congress refused to cooperate with Obama.

My examples are all Trump-specific, all of them. We can pretend they are not, we can try to change the subject, but that would be lying.
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totally wrong, obama shut them out, refused to talk with them, remember "we won" and "republicans need to go to the back of the bus" ?

the refusal to negotiate and compromise was coming from the dictator wannabe obozo the great.

your grasp of recent history is amazingly lacking.

You've kinda got that backwards. I mean yes, something similar to that was said, but you got the order backwards. That sentiment was expressed after years of republican obstructionism and leaks about how they determined to block every single Obama initiative even if they thought it was a good idea and secret back room meetings on inauguration night.

bullshit, Newt and the GOP worked with clinton and got things done, the dems refused to work with Bush and are refusing to work with Trump.

the only obama ideas that were blocked were his stupid socialist attempts to destroy this country.

THE Dems worked with Bush the last 2 years of his 8 years, when they got control back of both houses in Congress.... why are you saying they didn't?

Dems alone passed Bill Clinton's financial plan to get the USA back on track, including the tax hike on the top level.
2 years later when Gingrich became speaker and repubs won the house, Clinton had the line item veto, so Gingrich worked with Clinton on cutting the spending legislation.

The Dems worked behind the scenes with Bush at the same time they trashed him in public.

Problem is Bush's father was a Globalist....so GWB never tried to fight the Democrats in Congress. They were working towards the same goal.