Attempted coup d' etat underway in Venezuela.

Not since the Gipper croaked.
Are you still celebrating genocide?
Are you still angry more nations in Central and South American didn't fall to the Communists?

Put some bag balm on it.
re you still angry more nations in Central and South American didn't fall to the Communists?

Put some bag balm on it
Apparently you're still ignorant of the fact that a majority of Central Americans preferred democratic socialism to the rule of rich oligarchs who depended on US support for their corrupt administrations.
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Maybe you should read more?
 
Well hot shot; since you're such a fucking tuff guy, why don't you just volunteer your big fat ass to go down there right now & save the day for Venezuela? We're waiting.
I'm sure they would love to have you come down to Venezuela & hold Guaido's hand.
Wow! Did I hit a nerve when I pointed out what a sick cretin you are for rooting on the grip socialist butcher Maduro has on the nation he has turned into a nightmare shit hole?

Looks like I did.
 
Apparently you're still ignorant of the fact that a majority of Central Americans preferred democratic socialism to the rule of rich oligarchs who depended on US support for their corrupt administrations.
What a sorry apologist you are trying to morph communism into "democratic socialism" in order to dishonestly
sugar coat what was going on during the Cold War. Pathetic!
Do you think Cuba is a democratic socialist nations too?
 
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Well hot shot; since you're such a fucking tuff guy, why don't you just volunteer your big fat ass to go down there right now & save the day for Venezuela? We're waiting.
I'm sure they would love to have you come down to Venezuela & hold Guaido's hand.
Wow! Did I hit a nerve when I pointed out what a sick cretin you are for rooting on the grip socialist butcher Maduro has on the nation he has turned into a nightmare shit hole?

Looks like I did.


Like I said; you wanna go & save Venezuela then knock yourself out there Superman.

Go sign up for Uncle Sam's military & tell them you wanna go shoot up commies down in Venezuela.

When you get back you can tell US all how you got a neat thrill from it all!!
 
Like I said; you wanna go & save Venezuela then knock yourself out there Superman.

Go sign up for Uncle Sam's military & tell them you wanna go shoot up commies down in Venezuela.

When you get back you can tell US all how you got a neat thrill from it all!!
I know what you said. I remember the bullshit fest you spewed out.

Here's my deal, imbecile......I'll join the army so I can fight in a war we aren't having when you wedge your fat ass in an Venezuelan armored carrier and go on duty running over crowds of starving angry Venezuelan citizens who just want their nation back from a butcher and Putin lackey like Nicolas Maduro. You know, the guy you seem to admire and support.

How about that, shit for brains?
 
Like I said; you wanna go & save Venezuela then knock yourself out there Superman.

Go sign up for Uncle Sam's military & tell them you wanna go shoot up commies down in Venezuela.

When you get back you can tell US all how you got a neat thrill from it all!!
I know what you said. I remember the bullshit fest you spewed out.

Here's my deal, imbecile......I'll join the army so I can fight in a war we aren't having when you wedge your fat ass in an Venezuelan armored carrier and go on duty running over crowds of starving angry Venezuelan citizens who just want their nation back from a butcher and Putin lackey like Nicolas Maduro. You know, the guy you seem to admire and support.

How about that, shit for brains?


I had an uncle that 'passed away' in Maracaibo, Zulia, Venezuela, in March, 1984.
He was 57 years of age at the time of his death & of course, a US citizen.
Guess what my uncle was doing down there in Venezuela?
His family won't tell you, the government won't tell you, no one will tell you. Yep.

Just in case you haven't noticed, Venezuela didn't just become a shit hole over night.
You might wanna go back & review the history of the nation a bit, get up to speed.
Good luck down there cowboy .......
 
Commies are still mad because we won the Cold War.
You mean some Americans (like you claim to be )are in denial of own own past.

Danny Ortega, via Castro and Russia, was trying to spread communism throughout Central America. The death squads were fighting them, along with the Contras in Honduras.

When the commies got their asses kicked they ran to SoCal and formed the MaraSalvatrucha, MS13.

Danny Ortega, via Castro and Russia, was trying to spread communism throughout Central America. The death squads were fighting them, along with the Contras in Honduras.

When the commies got their asses kicked they ran to SoCal and formed the MaraSalvatrucha, MS13.
Salvadoran Civil War - Wikipedia

"On December 2, 1980, members of the Salvadoran National Guard were suspected to have raped and murdered four American, Catholic church women (three religious women, or nuns, and a laywoman).

"Maryknoll missionary sisters Maura Clarke and Ita Ford, Ursuline sister Dorothy Kazel, and laywoman Jean Donovan were on a Catholic relief mission providing food, shelter, transport, medical care, and burial to death squad victims.

"U.S. military aid was briefly cut off in response to the murders but would be renewed within six weeks.

"The outgoing Carter administration increased military aid to the Salvadoran armed forces to $10 million which included $5 million in rifles, ammunition, grenades and helicopters.[73]

"In justifying these arms shipments, the administration claimed that the regime had taken 'positive steps' to investigate the murder of four American nuns, but this was disputed by US Ambassador, Robert E. White, who said that he could find no evidence the junta was 'conducting a serious investigation.' [73]

"White was dismissed from the foreign service by the Reagan Administration after he had refused to participate in a coverup of the Salvadoran military's responsibility for the murders at the behest of Secretary of State Alexander Haig."

Asylum seekers fled US-supported death squad violence like this and the assassination of Archbishop Oscar Romero which occurred while he was delivering Mass.
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When the migrants arrived in Los Angeles they were preyed upon by local gangs. MS-13 began as collective defense against US gangs. As usual the Greatest Purveyor of Violence in the World blames its victims.

Carter. Typical Democrat warmonger.

Good to see you support MS13, though. Maybe they'll skin you alive for your support.

Carter. Typical Democrat warmonger.

Good to see you support MS13, though. Maybe they'll skin you alive for your support
Maybe you live long enough to comprehend the difference between hired killers and their victims
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Israel's shadowy role in Guatemala's dirty war

"Hundreds of thousands of people were displaced in the 1980s,” said Elizabeth Oglesby, an associate professor of Latin American studies at the University of Arizona.

"'People were fleeing violence and massacres and political persecution that the United States was either funding directly or at the very minimum, covering up and excusing.'

"Violence today in those countries, she said, is a directly legacy of US involvement."

The Violence Central American Migrants Are Fleeing Was Stoked by the US

Displaced = fled. They formed MS13. May they flay you alive one day.
 
I had an uncle that 'passed away' in Maracaibo, Zulia, Venezuela, in March, 1984.
He was 57 years of age at the time of his death & of course, a US citizen.
Guess what my uncle was doing down there in Venezuela?
His family won't tell you, the government won't tell you, no one will tell you. Yep.
Great story.

Just in case you haven't noticed, Venezuela didn't just become a shit hole over night.
You might wanna go back & review the history of the nation a bit, get up to speed.
Good luck down there cowboy .......
It's a shit hole now and you seem to like it.
You should move there, loser.
 
I had an uncle that 'passed away' in Maracaibo, Zulia, Venezuela, in March, 1984.
He was 57 years of age at the time of his death & of course, a US citizen.
Guess what my uncle was doing down there in Venezuela?
His family won't tell you, the government won't tell you, no one will tell you. Yep.
Great story.

Just in case you haven't noticed, Venezuela didn't just become a shit hole over night.
You might wanna go back & review the history of the nation a bit, get up to speed.
Good luck down there cowboy .......
It's a shit hole now and you seem to like it.
You should move there, loser.


seems you are the one that is so concerned about YOUR beloved Venezuela

I'm thinking you must be the one with the plane ticket for Caracas

LOFL ...........
 
Good,

Fire up the helicopters and get rid of some commies!!!
There's nothing good about this for anyone .
It's more empire fun and games by our shadow govt.
It’s apparently easier to install a puppet regime in Venezuela in order to resume Venezuelan oil production than it is to get democrats in Oregon and California to cooperate.
The only thing standing in the way of increased production is US sanctions.
And the democrat govs of OR and CA.
 
seems you are the one that is so concerned about YOUR beloved Venezuela

I'm thinking you must be the one with the plane ticket for Caracas

LOFL ...........
I "love" Venezuela as much as all the members of the EU and OAS (who all call for Maduro the butcher to step down).

No need to stretch your overworked little mind out of shape trying to figure a way you can demonize my position on Venezuela. Your friend Vlad Putin (he must be your friend since he wants to prop up the butcher) is the only thing keeping the socialist government of Maduro standing.
He's a socialist authoritarian dictator (like Vlad) and he's bad for all the states in the region. With a puppet government in Venezuela all states there are in danger of destabilization and Putin's reach will be that much greater.

But on top of that there are all the humanitarian considerations which I know you really don't care about. You are the one in favor of a brutal dictatorship, after all. Don't worry about why I think Venezuela is worth saving. I have many good reasons one of those being you want the opposite outcome and to see the nation stay miserable and starving to death.

Think about that while you are sucking Danny Glover's penis.
 
Pay no attention to THE OP who is a RUSSIAN TROLL. Go search his post history. He is opposed to anything that benefits America, and is for anything that benefits Russia, and places like CUBA and other Totalitarian States which Russia is involved in.
 
The Tragedy of Venezuela is the Tragedy of the US
The Tragedy of Venezuela is the Tragedy of the US

". . . . Knowing as well that Trump did not give a farthing for what happened in Venezuela but was concentrated on what he is always focused on, domestic politics, I knew these underlings would be allowed to cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war in Venezuela so long as doing it secured Florida’s electoral votes for Trump in 2020.

What I did not know – but looking back to 2002, should have – is how utterly incompetent the CIA would be in pulling off the “soft coup d’etat” that its leaders promised Trump. The events of the past 48 hours have demonstrated that incompetence markedly, as well as the real motivations of Trump’s lackeys on Venezuela, from the shrimp-lusting-after-Cuba Marco Rubio to the bombastic former governor of Florida Rick Scott, to the pardoned criminal Abrams, to the supine and totally incompetent Juan Guaido and his backer, Leopoldo Lopez in Caracas. What a crew the GOP can muster!

And they just might have let slip the dogs of war.

And they let them slip into a potentially first-class disaster – just like Somalia in 1992, Iraq in 2003, Libya in 2011, Syria in 2012, Afghanistan today and yesterday, and on and on.



Venezuelan military. (Telesur)

I know the Venezuelan military; I’ve trained some of them. They are not your usual “I want to shower after meeting them” crowd, as I would describe for instance the Honduran military. Instead, they are reasonably professional, reasonably aware of Venezuela’s historical commitment to democracy, and reasonably competent at their day jobs. They are proud of the fact that they are not Panama, i.e., a country into which the U.S. can send paratroopers overnight, kill several thousands, grab a narco-trafficker, and leave. . . . "


Larry Wilkerson is a retired colonel, U.S. Army (ret.), and former Chief of Staff for Secretary of State Colin Powell.
 
seems you are the one that is so concerned about YOUR beloved Venezuela

I'm thinking you must be the one with the plane ticket for Caracas

LOFL ...........
I "love" Venezuela as much as all the members of the EU and OAS (who all call for Maduro the butcher to step down).

No need to stretch your overworked little mind out of shape trying to figure a way you can demonize my position on Venezuela. Your friend Vlad Putin (he must be your friend since he wants to prop up the butcher) is the only thing keeping the socialist government of Maduro standing.
He's a socialist authoritarian dictator (like Vlad) and he's bad for all the states in the region. With a puppet government in Venezuela all states there are in danger of destabilization and Putin's reach will be that much greater.

But on top of that there are all the humanitarian considerations which I know you really don't care about. You are the one in favor of a brutal dictatorship, after all. Don't worry about why I think Venezuela is worth saving. I have many good reasons one of those being you want the opposite outcome and to see the nation stay miserable and starving to death.

Think about that while you are sucking Danny Glover's penis.

Putin? That is Trump's butt buddy; they are BFF. Didn't you know? LOFL .......

How would you know anything about Danny Glover's penis?
You should keep your fantasies off the forum Mr. Ruby Lipps. LOFL ........
 
The Tragedy of Venezuela is the Tragedy of the US
The Tragedy of Venezuela is the Tragedy of the US

". . . . Knowing as well that Trump did not give a farthing for what happened in Venezuela but was concentrated on what he is always focused on, domestic politics, I knew these underlings would be allowed to cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war in Venezuela so long as doing it secured Florida’s electoral votes for Trump in 2020.

What I did not know – but looking back to 2002, should have – is how utterly incompetent the CIA would be in pulling off the “soft coup d’etat” that its leaders promised Trump. The events of the past 48 hours have demonstrated that incompetence markedly, as well as the real motivations of Trump’s lackeys on Venezuela, from the shrimp-lusting-after-Cuba Marco Rubio to the bombastic former governor of Florida Rick Scott, to the pardoned criminal Abrams, to the supine and totally incompetent Juan Guaido and his backer, Leopoldo Lopez in Caracas. What a crew the GOP can muster!

And they just might have let slip the dogs of war.

And they let them slip into a potentially first-class disaster – just like Somalia in 1992, Iraq in 2003, Libya in 2011, Syria in 2012, Afghanistan today and yesterday, and on and on.



Venezuelan military. (Telesur)

I know the Venezuelan military; I’ve trained some of them. They are not your usual “I want to shower after meeting them” crowd, as I would describe for instance the Honduran military. Instead, they are reasonably professional, reasonably aware of Venezuela’s historical commitment to democracy, and reasonably competent at their day jobs. They are proud of the fact that they are not Panama, i.e., a country into which the U.S. can send paratroopers overnight, kill several thousands, grab a narco-trafficker, and leave. . . . "


Larry Wilkerson is a retired colonel, U.S. Army (ret.), and former Chief of Staff for Secretary of State Colin Powell.
The tragedy of Venezuela is that they voted in a Socialist who promptly sank the most successful economy in South America, and took away their guns so all they had was rocks to throw at armored vehicles.

Maybe Trump should send them pallets full of unmarked cash in the middle of the night.
 
Putin? That is Trump's butt buddy; they are BFF. Didn't you know?
Nobody "knows" that. It's a lie you like to perpetuate. You are the one all for helping Putin get his way, so fuck off!

How would you know anything about Danny Glover's penis?
You should keep your fantasies off the forum Mr. Ruby Lipps..
I know he has one and he's a big fan of socialist
governments like the one in Venezuela. By supporting Maduro the butcher and Vlad Putin you are doing Danny a big favor and it's as if you are sucking his dick! You might as well be and you love it
or else you wouldn't be such a lackey for a dictator.
 
What I did not know – but looking back to 2002, should have – is how utterly incompetent the CIA would be in pulling off the “soft coup d’etat” that its leaders promised Trump. The events of the past 48 hours have demonstrated that incompetence markedly, as well as the real motivations of Trump’s lackeys on Venezuela, from the shrimp-lusting-after-Cuba Marco Rubio to the bombastic former governor of Florida Rick Scott, to the pardoned criminal Abrams, to the supine and totally incompetent Juan Guaido and his backer, Leopoldo Lopez in Caracas. What a crew the GOP can muster!
You left out the main pirates: Koch Bros. and Canada's disgusting tar sand interests.
 
The Tragedy of Venezuela is the Tragedy of the US
The Tragedy of Venezuela is the Tragedy of the US

". . . . Knowing as well that Trump did not give a farthing for what happened in Venezuela but was concentrated on what he is always focused on, domestic politics, I knew these underlings would be allowed to cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war in Venezuela so long as doing it secured Florida’s electoral votes for Trump in 2020.

What I did not know – but looking back to 2002, should have – is how utterly incompetent the CIA would be in pulling off the “soft coup d’etat” that its leaders promised Trump. The events of the past 48 hours have demonstrated that incompetence markedly, as well as the real motivations of Trump’s lackeys on Venezuela, from the shrimp-lusting-after-Cuba Marco Rubio to the bombastic former governor of Florida Rick Scott, to the pardoned criminal Abrams, to the supine and totally incompetent Juan Guaido and his backer, Leopoldo Lopez in Caracas. What a crew the GOP can muster!

And they just might have let slip the dogs of war.

And they let them slip into a potentially first-class disaster – just like Somalia in 1992, Iraq in 2003, Libya in 2011, Syria in 2012, Afghanistan today and yesterday, and on and on.



Venezuelan military. (Telesur)

I know the Venezuelan military; I’ve trained some of them. They are not your usual “I want to shower after meeting them” crowd, as I would describe for instance the Honduran military. Instead, they are reasonably professional, reasonably aware of Venezuela’s historical commitment to democracy, and reasonably competent at their day jobs. They are proud of the fact that they are not Panama, i.e., a country into which the U.S. can send paratroopers overnight, kill several thousands, grab a narco-trafficker, and leave. . . . "


Larry Wilkerson is a retired colonel, U.S. Army (ret.), and former Chief of Staff for Secretary of State Colin Powell.
The tragedy of Venezuela is that they voted in a Socialist who promptly sank the most successful economy in South America, and took away their guns so all they had was rocks to throw at armored vehicles.

Maybe Trump should send them pallets full of unmarked cash in the middle of the night.

You know, I have looked all over the internet to find out if it was Chavez, Maduro, or the legislature that banned guns. I can't find that move anywhere.

Every report I get is just, "the government banned civilian ownership of guns. . "

:dunno:


PROVE that the people's representatives, like the ones in Australia, didn't do that to themselves.


SECOND, the Venezuelan economy was only working for the richest 10 percent of all of the nation. It didn't do anything for the poor and middle class.

All indices of development, from infant mortality, to literacy, to percentage of poverty have all risen since the advent of Chavezism. What does it matter how the economy works if the nation, the majority, is poor, starving, dying and suffering? What do they care?

Why do you think Maduro won the election by a larger margin, has more support than Trump, and the PM's of France, Britain, or Germany? . . . or just about any other nation you care to name.

It is NOT up to us to interfere in their internal politics. If Venuezuala was allowed to trade with the rest of the world, I am sure they would have no trouble. But they are defying the IMF, the world bank, and the globalist business cabal.


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How did Venezuela change under Hugo Chávez?

The Roots of Venezuela's Economic Crisis
 
I usually say we should mind our own business, but if we don't take control of Venezuela China, Russia, or Iran will. Isolation policy would have us surrounded by our enemies. Only thing left is the military option. We need to take Maduro out.
That's been our excuse for decades.
"If we don't screw them over Russia will. "
It doesn't fly anymore Skippy.
The cat's out of the bag and the world's watching.
Russia and China are there buddying up to Maduro. He's broke, desperate. It is easy to imagine this becoming a puppet state to one of them. We don't want them in this neighborhood.
 
What I did not know – but looking back to 2002, should have – is how utterly incompetent the CIA would be in pulling off the “soft coup d’etat” that its leaders promised Trump. The events of the past 48 hours have demonstrated that incompetence markedly, as well as the real motivations of Trump’s lackeys on Venezuela, from the shrimp-lusting-after-Cuba Marco Rubio to the bombastic former governor of Florida Rick Scott, to the pardoned criminal Abrams, to the supine and totally incompetent Juan Guaido and his backer, Leopoldo Lopez in Caracas. What a crew the GOP can muster!
You left out the main pirates: Koch Bros. and Canada's disgusting tar sand interests.

Greg Palast is an excellent investigative reporter. He is not beholden to any corporate interest.

He basically did a really good job summing up the elite classes butt hurt over losing control in Venezuela. The elite classes are the ones that can trace their ancestry most directly back to Spanish Colonial Control.

Look at the two sides we are talking about. . . .

In Venezuela, White Supremacy is a Key to Trump’s Coup
In Venezuela, White Supremacy is a Key to Trump's Coup

". . . . First, we have Juan Guaidó, self-proclaimed (and Trump-proclaimed) president of the nation, with his wife and child, a photo prominently placed in The New York Times.

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Next, the class photo of Guaidó’s party members in the National Assembly, white as snow…

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…especially when compared to their political opposites in the third photo, the congress members who support the elected President Nicolás Maduro. The Maduro supporters are nearly all of a darker hue.

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This is the story of Venezuela in black and white, the story not told in The New York Times nor the rest of our establishment media. This year’s so-called popular uprising is, at its heart, a furious backlash of the whiter (and wealthier) Venezuelans against their replacement by the larger Mestizo (mixed-race) poor.. . . . "



This is why we often hear from folks here on USMB, "I am from Venezuela, or I heard from someone down there. . . etc." Notice they are always fluent in English? Notice they always have enough privilege to be able to talk with someone in the states?

No one every even questions the narrative that the richest and most privileged Venezuelans OF COURSE do not like the government down there taking away their privilege and destroying a system that only favors the top five percent or so. . .

It is their nation. I can't imagine why we would interfere with free and fair elections. Only the brain washed would tolerate such a thing.
 

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