Australia Bans Guns, Crime Rate Increases | Gun Control Fail

[Stephanie]

1 million Americans were murdered by guns this year...

probably more that that died in abortions, so whats your all's beef?

you can't see those so they DON'T COUNT

 

[Dick Tuck]

oh and dick tuck this is for you

The gun ban was backed up by a mandatory buy-back program that substantially reduced gun possession in Australia.
iReporter: 'AK-47 a weapon for war'
The effect was that both gun suicides and homicides (as well as total suicides and homicides) fell. Importantly, while there were 13 mass shootings in Australia during the period of 1979--96, there have been none in the sixteen years since.
In 1996, then-Prime Minister John Howard stated that the "whole scheme is designed to reduce the number of guns in the community and make Australia a safer place to live." The Australian attorney general praised the cooperation and responsibility of Australian firearms owners with the gun controls and buy-back, saying, "they have been paid cash for their firearms - giving our nation a welcome Christmas gift by removing unnecessary high-powered firearms from the community. It offers all of us the real chance of a safer festive season and New Year."

When will America wake up to gun violence? - CNN.com

And the paragraph, right before the one you quoted states:

The Australian federal government persuaded all states and territories to implement tough new gun control laws. Under the National Firearms Agreement (NFA), firearms legislation was tightened throughout the country. National registration of guns was imposed and it became illegal to hold certain long guns that might be used in mass shootings.

Guns are not banned in Australia, you're a fucking liar. Australia does have strict registration laws, and limits the types of guns that can be owned.

Gun politics in Australia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Euroconservativ]

1 million murdered by guns this year?? WTF is that?

10,000, most of whom killed with regular guns

 

[Stephanie]

1 million murdered by guns this year?? WTF is that?

10,000, most of whom killed with regular guns

no kidding
but one million sounds better I guess

 

[Dick Tuck]

Australia's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime:

In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
Moreover, Australia and the United States -- where no gun-ban exists -- both experienced similar decreases in murder rates:

Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun ban, America's rate dropped 31.7 percent.
During the same time period, all other violent crime indices increased in Australia: assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent.
Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women.
AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN

The homicide rate in the US is 4.2 per 100,000. In Australia, it's 1.0. IOWS, shithead, their rate is less than a quarter of ours. You're still a liar when you claim that Australia banned guns.

 

[Mac1958]

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Of the +/- 5,000 current gun control threads -- and I definitely admit I haven't read every freakin' post -- I wonder if the term "gun control" has actually been defined yet.

Is anyone advocating somehow confiscating all guns, for example, or just assault weapons? And, while we're there, has the term "assault weapon" been specifically defined?

And while I'm thinking of it, are there any documented cases of citizens utilizing assault weapons to protect themselves and/or their families in which a pistol or rifle would not have worked as well? Perhaps we could examine and discuss those cases.

Or are we all just screaming emotional, cathartic, hyperbolic platitudes again?

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[LoneLaugher]

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Of the +/- 5,000 current gun control threads -- and I definitely admit I haven't read every freakin' post -- I wonder if the term "gun control" has actually been defined yet.

Is anyone advocating somehow confiscating all guns, for example, or just assault weapons? And, while we're there, has the term "assault weapon" been specifically defined?

Or are we all just screaming emotional, cathartic, hyperbolic platitudes again?

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I don't believe anyone has advocated confiscating all guns. There have been some calls for assault weapons bans....much like what we had before and inclusive of semi-automatic weapons. Also calls for ending easy accessoup limited supplies of ammo. There have also been calls for background checks and more steps toward insuring that mentally unstable people are identified and treated rather than ignored and armed.

 

[SniperFire]

Well, are murders up or down since Australia banned guns...?

'We saw this clearly in Australia when Aussies were disarmed by de jure measures in 1997.
To accomplish this, the Australian government sponsored a $500 million buyback on all privately owned firearms that led to a ban. Australian politicians who supported the move "promised a lower crime rate once the ban was in place."
Did lower crime result? No. Instead armed robberies rose significantly and home invasions rose as well.
Moreover, assaults involving guns rose more than a 25% and murders with a gun rose nearly 20%.

The Aussie Lesson: Less Guns, More Crime

 

[Dick Tuck]

Well, are murders up or down since Australia banned guns...?

'We saw this clearly in Australia when Aussies were disarmed by de jure measures in 1997.
To accomplish this, the Australian government sponsored a $500 million buyback on all privately owned firearms that led to a ban. Australian politicians who supported the move "promised a lower crime rate once the ban was in place."
Did lower crime result? No. Instead armed robberies rose significantly and home invasions rose as well.
Moreover, assaults involving guns rose more than a 25% and murders with a gun rose nearly 20%.

The Aussie Lesson: Less Guns, More Crime

The homicide rate in the US is 4.2 per 100,000. In Australia, it's 1.0. IOWS, shithead, their rate is less than a quarter of ours. Oh, and Australia hasn't had an incident like the Port Arthur massacre, since assault weapon sales were banned. Isn't that why Australia instituted stricter gun regulations to begin with?

You might as well argue that the planet is warmer because of Australia's gun regulation. There's no show of cause and effect.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

oh and dick tuck this is for you

The gun ban was backed up by a mandatory buy-back program that substantially reduced gun possession in Australia.
iReporter: 'AK-47 a weapon for war'
The effect was that both gun suicides and homicides (as well as total suicides and homicides) fell. Importantly, while there were 13 mass shootings in Australia during the period of 1979--96, there have been none in the sixteen years since.
In 1996, then-Prime Minister John Howard stated that the "whole scheme is designed to reduce the number of guns in the community and make Australia a safer place to live." The Australian attorney general praised the cooperation and responsibility of Australian firearms owners with the gun controls and buy-back, saying, "they have been paid cash for their firearms - giving our nation a welcome Christmas gift by removing unnecessary high-powered firearms from the community. It offers all of us the real chance of a safer festive season and New Year."

When will America wake up to gun violence? - CNN.com

And the paragraph, right before the one you quoted states:

The Australian federal government persuaded all states and territories to implement tough new gun control laws. Under the National Firearms Agreement (NFA), firearms legislation was tightened throughout the country. National registration of guns was imposed and it became illegal to hold certain long guns that might be used in mass shootings.

Guns are not banned in Australia, you're a fucking liar. Australia does have strict registration laws, and limits the types of guns that can be owned.

Gun politics in Australia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You fuck you stupid little fuck nothing in what you pointed out was about Australia not having a gun ban
Here dumb ass take this so someone can translate it for you and ask them to help you understand

The gun ban was backed up by a mandatory buy-back program that substantially reduced gun possession in Australia.
And even ipointed states

illegal to hold certain long guns

Illegal to hold would mean they were banned
Gawd you are one sorry excuse for a stupid bitch.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Australia's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime:

In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
Moreover, Australia and the United States -- where no gun-ban exists -- both experienced similar decreases in murder rates:

Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun ban, America's rate dropped 31.7 percent.
During the same time period, all other violent crime indices increased in Australia: assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent.
Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women.
AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN

The homicide rate in the US is 4.2 per 100,000. In Australia, it's 1.0. IOWS, shithead, their rate is less than a quarter of ours. You're still a liar when you claim that Australia banned guns.

Go away dumb ass you don't even have the intelligence to know Australia has a gun ban.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Big Derp is a fucking idiot and a scumbag for continuing to politicize this tragedy with lies and propaganda

No worse than idiots like to to use children to push for an unconstitutional gun ban.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Guns aren't banned in Australia. You're a fucking lying sack of shit.

Dumb ass there are several links provided by gun grabbers that call you a liar.
I don't understand why you keep saying that when it is not true.

It is true you lying sack of shit. GUNS ARE NOT BANNED IN AUSTRALIA!

You're a fucking liar.

Every link that I have posted has pointed out there is a ban.Links from gun ban supporters have also pointed out that Australia has a gun ban.
Will someone in this thread kindly inform dick tuck about the gun ban?

 

[francoHFW]

Snopes says the OP is 12 years old and totally FOS. The murder rate has gone down 59% since assult rifles were banned, with no massacres since.

http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Snopes says the OP is 12 years old and totally FOS. The murder rate has gone down 59% since assult rifles were banned, with no massacres since.

snopes.com: Australian Guns Stats

Snoops? This is the second time you posted that link. Nothing change since the first time you failed.
If anything is misleading it's snoopes.

Their stats are from the 90'/s and the last year that stats are used is 2000. It's 2012 now.

 

[francoHFW]

Bs lol

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Bs lol

You didn't read your source did you?

 

[francoHFW]

Australia banned automatic and semi-automatic rifles and shotguns in 1996- by 2006 murders went down 59% and suicides 65%. End of story- your OP is BS pub propaganda from 2000. Typical.

Massacres and Gun Rules: What U.S. Can Learn from U.K. and Australia | TIME.com

 

[francoHFW]

AND an end to massacres PERIOD.

Don't you get tired of BS Pub propaganda making you look like a fool, dupe? Hoping for your recovery.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

AND an end to massacres PERIOD.

Don't you get tired of BS Pub propaganda making you look like a fool, dupe? Hoping for your recovery.

But not an end to shooting's. Why is it that you gun grabbers are so concerned with the amount of people killed? Isn't one two many?