Australia Bans Guns, Crime Rate Increases | Gun Control Fail

[bigrebnc1775]

Australia banned automatic and semi-automatic rifles and shotguns in 1996- by 2006 murders went down 59% and suicides 65%. End of story- your OP is BS pub propaganda from 2000. Typical.

Massacres and Gun Rules: What U.S. Can Learn from U.K. and Australia | TIME.com

Australia's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime:

In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
Moreover, Australia and the United States -- where no gun-ban exists -- both experienced similar decreases in murder rates:

Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun ban, America's rate dropped 31.7 percent.
During the same time period, all other violent crime indices increased in Australia: assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent.
Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women.
AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN

 

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[bigrebnc1775]

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You have been shit canned dude.

 

[francoHFW]

Any connection to reality is purely coincidental. Only auto and semi rifles and shotguns were banned, and murders and suicides went down big time, massacres ended. Your OP is Pubcrappe, and assaults and rapes are ridiculously irrelevevant. Try and follow. End of thread. LOL

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Any connection to reality is purely coincidental. Only auto and semi rifles and shotguns were banned, and murders and suicides went down big time, massacres ended. Your OP is Pubcrappe, and assaults and rapes are ridiculously irrelevevant. Try and follow. End of thread. LOL

But that didn't stop the killings did it? People are still terrorized by home invasions and are still being killed aren't they?

 

[Dick Tuck]

oh and dick tuck this is for you

The gun ban was backed up by a mandatory buy-back program that substantially reduced gun possession in Australia.
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The effect was that both gun suicides and homicides (as well as total suicides and homicides) fell. Importantly, while there were 13 mass shootings in Australia during the period of 1979--96, there have been none in the sixteen years since.
In 1996, then-Prime Minister John Howard stated that the "whole scheme is designed to reduce the number of guns in the community and make Australia a safer place to live." The Australian attorney general praised the cooperation and responsibility of Australian firearms owners with the gun controls and buy-back, saying, "they have been paid cash for their firearms - giving our nation a welcome Christmas gift by removing unnecessary high-powered firearms from the community. It offers all of us the real chance of a safer festive season and New Year."

When will America wake up to gun violence? - CNN.com

And the paragraph, right before the one you quoted states:



Guns are not banned in Australia, you're a fucking liar. Australia does have strict registration laws, and limits the types of guns that can be owned.

Gun politics in Australia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You fuck you stupid little fuck nothing in what you pointed out was about Australia not having a gun ban
Here dumb ass take this so someone can translate it for you and ask them to help you understand

The gun ban was backed up by a mandatory buy-back program that substantially reduced gun possession in Australia.
And even ipointed states

illegal to hold certain long guns

Illegal to hold would mean they were banned
Gawd you are one sorry excuse for a stupid bitch.

Australia did not ban guns, you fucking liar.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

And the paragraph, right before the one you quoted states:



Guns are not banned in Australia, you're a fucking liar. Australia does have strict registration laws, and limits the types of guns that can be owned.

Gun politics in Australia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You fuck you stupid little fuck nothing in what you pointed out was about Australia not having a gun ban
Here dumb ass take this so someone can translate it for you and ask them to help you understand

The gun ban was backed up by a mandatory buy-back program that substantially reduced gun possession in Australia.
And even ipointed states

illegal to hold certain long guns

Illegal to hold would mean they were banned
Gawd you are one sorry excuse for a stupid bitch.

Australia did not ban guns, you fucking liar.

I don't lie and they did ban guns. Why do you keep saying that when everything that has been posted says they did/

 

[Mad Scientist]

Three shooting with assault weopons in the US in the last week.

How many in Australia in the same week?

Suicide is the #1 cause of Death in the US.

Couldn't possibly be related to all the Medication Americans take?

Oh no, Big Pharma would NEVER put profit before safety would they?

 

[Chris]

Japan has no guns and an extremely low crime rate.

Switzerland has a lot of guns and an extremely low crime rate.

Guns have no effect on the crime rate, but do effect the lethality of crimes.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Japan has no guns and an extremely low crime rate.

Switzerland has a lot of guns and an extremely low crime rate.

Guns have no effect on the crime rate, but do effect the lethality of crimes.

Japan maybe but the rest is a lie.

 

[LoneLaugher]

AND an end to massacres PERIOD.

Don't you get tired of BS Pub propaganda making you look like a fool, dupe? Hoping for your recovery.

But not an end to shooting's. Why is it that you gun grabbers are so concerned with the amount of people killed? Isn't one two many?

Yes one is two many. Perfectly stated.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

AND an end to massacres PERIOD.

Don't you get tired of BS Pub propaganda making you look like a fool, dupe? Hoping for your recovery.

But not an end to shooting's. Why is it that you gun grabbers are so concerned with the amount of people killed? Isn't one two many?

Yes one is two many. Perfectly stated.

oh excuse me Mrs. perfect
One is too many.

 

[BallsBrunswick]

This is the most bullshit thread in my time on USMB. I'm surprised bigrednc1775 keeps bumping since it shows what a lying, welching, pig he is.

 

[Noomi]

Think Australia is a great place to live because of their gun ban? Better think twice

Australia Bans Guns, Crime Rate Increases | Gun Control Fail - YouTube

Even if the crime rate has risen, we don't really care - what we care about is the fact there hasn't been a single mass shooting since Martin Bryant murdered 35 innocent people.

No solution is perfect. Our solution may have meant more crime, but it meant no mass shootings. What could we do? Leave the law as it was and risk another mass shooting on a much larger scale? Or ban guns and accept the potential consequences?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Think Australia is a great place to live because of their gun ban? Better think twice

Australia Bans Guns, Crime Rate Increases | Gun Control Fail - YouTube

Even if the crime rate has risen, we don't really care - what we care about is the fact there hasn't been a single mass shooting since Martin Bryant murdered 35 innocent people.

No solution is perfect. Our solution may have meant more crime, but it meant no mass shootings. What could we do? Leave the law as it was and risk another mass shooting on a much larger scale? Or ban guns and accept the potential consequences?

You are insane.

 

[Noomi]

Think Australia is a great place to live because of their gun ban? Better think twice

Australia Bans Guns, Crime Rate Increases | Gun Control Fail - YouTube

You lying little ass puke. Australia has not banned guns. Why do you lie so much?

Go away liar.
AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN
AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN

Guns are not banned, per say. They are still legal, but only for those who are licensed.

You might find this website interesting:

Guns in Australia: Facts, Figures and Firearm Law

You will find that in 1996 - the year of the Port Arther massacre, there were 516 gun deaths nationwide.

In 2012 there were only 231.

In 2009, there were only 30 homicides involving a firearm. In 1996 - the year of the Port Arther massacre, there were 104.

What does this tell you? Oh...that gun control works?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

You lying little ass puke. Australia has not banned guns. Why do you lie so much?

Go away liar.
AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN
AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN

Guns are not banned, per say. They are still legal, but only for those who are licensed.

You might find this website interesting:

Guns in Australia: Facts, Figures and Firearm Law

You will find that in 1996 - the year of the Port Arther massacre, there were 516 gun deaths nationwide.

In 2012 there were only 231.

What does this tell you? Oh...that gun control works?

Was the buy back government mandatory?
There is no discussion with someone who just said

Even if the crime rate has risen, we don't really care

 

[Noomi]

Think Australia is a great place to live because of their gun ban? Better think twice

Australia Bans Guns, Crime Rate Increases | Gun Control Fail - YouTube

Even if the crime rate has risen, we don't really care - what we care about is the fact there hasn't been a single mass shooting since Martin Bryant murdered 35 innocent people.

No solution is perfect. Our solution may have meant more crime, but it meant no mass shootings. What could we do? Leave the law as it was and risk another mass shooting on a much larger scale? Or ban guns and accept the potential consequences?

You are insane.

Read my link above.

 

[Noomi]

Go away liar.
AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN
AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN

Guns are not banned, per say. They are still legal, but only for those who are licensed.

You might find this website interesting:

Guns in Australia: Facts, Figures and Firearm Law

You will find that in 1996 - the year of the Port Arther massacre, there were 516 gun deaths nationwide.

In 2012 there were only 231.

What does this tell you? Oh...that gun control works?

Was the buy back government mandatory?

Prime Minister John Howard, then newly elected, immediately took the gun law proposals developed from the report of the 1988 National Committee on Violence[16] and forced the states to adopt them under a National Firearms Agreement. This was necessary because the Australian Constitution does not give the Commonwealth power to enact gun laws. The proposals included a ban on all semi-automatic rifles and all semi-automatic and pump-action shotguns, and a tightly restrictive system of licensing and ownership controls.

Gun politics in Australia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I would assume so. You can read more at the link, anyway.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Even if the crime rate has risen, we don't really care - what we care about is the fact there hasn't been a single mass shooting since Martin Bryant murdered 35 innocent people.

No solution is perfect. Our solution may have meant more crime, but it meant no mass shootings. What could we do? Leave the law as it was and risk another mass shooting on a much larger scale? Or ban guns and accept the potential consequences?

You are insane.

Read my link above.

I read it you're still insane.