Axelrod: Government ‘So Vast,‘ Obama Can't Know About Wrongdoing

[healthmyths]

Axelrod!!! We've been trying to tell you that!

Why do you think there are 50 states?

But idiots like Obama/Axelrod and supporters having totally NO expertise in ANYTHING except campaigning which they are very very good.. are NOW recognizing why there are 50 states!

The government is simply too big for President Obama to keep track of all the wrongdoing taking place on his watch, his former senior adviser, David Axelrod, told MSNBC. “Part of being president is there’s so much beneath you that you can’t know because the government is so vast,” he explained.
Axelrod: Government ?So Vast,? Obama Can't Know About Wrongdoing | National Review Online


Of course RomneyCare may work in Mass.! But that is just one state and has a fairly homogenous population and is also 6,646,144 people 2% of the US 313,914,040!
But as Axelrod states... 50 states are just to big to manage... THAT's WHY there are 50 state governments! 1,000s of local goverments!

And yet Obamacare and other attempts to nationalize totally forgets that the USA is NOT a homogenous people!
That interests of Texans is different then people in Illinois!

What we that UNDERSTAND that systems as complex as what Obama is trying to institute will fail because of those above characteristics.

It is NOT right that people working in New York are expected to pay the same as people in OK for health care!
It is NOT right that the EPA mandates gas mileage for ALL states when there are so many factors that this can NOT be administered from a cubicle in D.C.!

NOW Axelrod/Obama are coming to grips what we who know better were to tell them.. i.e. the Federal govt. CAN NOT be ALL THINGS to ALL people!
It doesn't work! Common defense... fine! That's it!

 

[Pete7469]

I don't think Axelrod has the brains to even understand what he's said.

If the moonbat messiah is the epitome of competence and intellectual ability, and even he can't seem to avoid fucking up everything he touches or even fix anything, maybe the government should be drastically cut down.

That way if we ever do elect a decent executive again, the fed can be managed properly and function. Unfortunately the last one we had was Clinton. He was and is a scumbag of course, but he was a qualified executive.

The moonbat messiah has accomplished nothing beyond getting elected, and that has more to do with the efforts of people far more intelligent than he.

 

[healthmyths]

Clinton was a lawyer!
Granted he had MORE executive experience the Obama as governor
BUT he had NO business experience, not even a Harvard MBA.

You as millions seemingly are ignoring these realities about Bush.
Plus Clinton had the MSM so up his butt!

But Bush.. here is a perfect example of what Bush had to put up with along with what NO other Presidents in history had to contend with!
So your contention about Bush is totally WRONG!

I challenge you to refute ANY of these points!
The following (4) Four..CATACLYSMIC world shaking events have never EVER occurred in any other presidency!
Sure we've had economic collapses. Sure we had attacks. Sure we've hurricanes.

BUT NONE of them were equal to the following events and NONE of them occurred in the two terms of any president.
For that reason historians with the perspective of time are going to rate Bush as a GREAT President!

DID THIS HAPPEN??
1) Dot.com bust cost $5 trillion in lost market value.. this means every year for 30 years now starting in 2000 the federal revenue is over $20 billion written off against taxes owed.
How many people LOST jobs due to the bust??
According to the Los Angeles Times, when the dot-com bubble burst, it wiped out $5 trillion dollars in market value for tech companies. More than half of the Internet companies created since 1995 were gone by 2004 -
and hundreds of thousands of skilled technology workers were out of jobs.
The dot-com bubble: How to lose $5 trillion ? Anderson Cooper 360 - CNN.com Blogs

DID THIS HAPPEN??
2) Did YOU forget that 9/11 occurred and it cost $2 trillion over the next 30 years again $8 billion will NOT BE PAiD.. was that Bush's fault?
Jobs lost in New York owing to the attacks: 146,100 JUST in New York!!
Year 2001: September 11 Terrorist Attacks
The 9/11 terrorist attacks were the events that helped shape other financial events of the decade. After that terrible day in September 2001, our economic climate was never to be the same again. It was only the third time in history that the New York Stock Exchange was shut down for a period of time. In this case, it was closed from September 10 - 17. Besides the tragic human loss of that day, the economic loss cannot even be estimated. Some estimate that there was over $60 billion in insurance losses alone.
Approximately 18,000 small businesses were either displaced or destroyed in Lower Manhattan after the Twin Towers fell. There was a buildup in homeland security on all levels. 9/11 caused a catastrophic financial loss for the U.S.
The Top 10 Financial Events of the Decade

DID THIS HAPPEN??
3) $1 trillion in written off losses due to the WORST Hurricane SEASONS in history!
The worst Katrina made landfall in Louisiana as a Category 3 in 2005. It took 1,836 lives and caused $81.2 billion in damages. Andrew slammed into South Florida in 1992 as a Category 5. It caused 40 deaths and $30 billion in property damage. More than 250,000 people were left homeless and 82,000 businesses were destroyed or damaged.
Hurricane Katrina ALONE! Year 2005: Hurricanes Katrina and Rita
On August 25, 2005, Hurricane Katrina hit the Gulf Coast of the U.S. as a strong Category 3 or low Category 4 storm. It quickly became the biggest natural disaster in U.S. history, almost destroying New Orleans due to severe flooding.

Hurricane Rita quickly followed Katrina only to make matters worse. Between the two, more than $200 billion in damage was done. 400,000 jobs were lost and 275,000 homes were destroyed. Many of the jobs and homes were never to be recovered. Hundreds of thousands of people were displaced and over 1,000 were killed and more are missing. The effect on oil and gasoline prices was long-lasting.

400,000 jobs due to Hurricanes Katrina/Rita
145,000 jobs in NYC alone due to 9/11
300,000 jobs lost due to dot.com busts.

Almost 1 million jobs alone from those 3 events

All of this while having almost $60 billion a year in tax revenue due to the above losses !

DID THIS HAPPEN??
4) Economic terrorist attack 9/18/2008 or how the world almost came to the end at 2pm on 9/18/2008.
How close to entire collapse the ENTIRE world's economy was on 9/18/2008 when an economic terrorist attack occurred..

On Thursday (Sept 18), at 11am the Federal Reserve noticed a tremendous draw-down of money market accounts in the U.S., to the tune of $550 billion was being drawn out in the matter of an hour or two. The Treasury ...estimation is that by 2pm that afternoon, $5.5 trillion would have been drawn out of the money market system of the U.S., would have collapsed the entire economy of the U.S., and within 24 hours the world economy would have collapsed. It would have been the end of our economic system and our political system as we know it."
Zero Hedge: How The World Almost Came To An End At 2PM On September 18

Oh and did I mention along the way when "Mission Accomplished" occurred after less then six weeks of combat in May 2003.. 10 years ago..that over 1 million Iraq people were
saved from starving? 50,000 people a year were starving under Saddam and when he was removed, (by the way at the request of Kerry,Pelosi, and 90% of the 28 million Iraqis) the
UN mandated embargo was removed.
Researcher Richard Garfield estimated that "a minimum of 100,000 and a more likely estimate of 227,000 excess deaths among young children from August 1991 through March 1998" from all causes including sanctions. Human rights in Saddam Hussein's Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Again all this happened and at the same time the MSM was bashing the President DAILY!

Well, our job is to bash the president, that's what we do." --
Evan Thomas responding to a question on whether the media's unfair to Bush on the TV talk show Inside Washington,
February 2, 2007.Newsweek's Evan Thomas: 'Our Job Is To Bash the President' | NewsBusters

How can one ignore the FACT that $8 trillion in losses are being written off against tax payments?
How can one ignore that near 1 million jobs were lost DUE to those events?
How can one ignore THAT the results of these events have never been widely share because the biased MSM totally bashes Bush FACTS?
-------------------
When Bush started 131,785,000 people employed.
At the end of 2008 136,790,000 people employed or

5,000,000 more employed then when he took office.

When Bush took office in 2001 GDP was $12.355,271,000,000
when Bush left office in 2008 GDP was $14,359,490,000,000
---------------------------------------------------------------------
A 16% increase in GDP or $2 TRILLION.

ALL of the above GAINS in GDP and people employed IN SPITE of the 4 major world changing events AND the BASHING by the BIASED MSM!
In light of the below, would you not agree with the following statement:
Well, our job is to bash the president, that's what we do." --
Evan Thomas responding to a question on whether the media's unfair to Bush on the TV talk show Inside Washington,
February 2, 2007.Newsweek's Evan Thomas: 'Our Job Is To Bash the President' | NewsBusters

So when Senior executives, on-air personalities, producers, reporters, editors, writers and other self-identifying employees of ABC, CBS and NBC contributed more than $1 million to Democratic candidates and campaign committees in 2008, according to an analysis by The Examiner of data compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics.
The Democratic total of $1,020,816 was given by 1,160 (85%!) of employees of the three major broadcast television networks, with an average contribution of $880.
By contrast, only 193 of the employees contributed to Republican candidates and campaign committees, for a total of $142,863.
The average Republican contribution was $744.
Obama, Democrats got 88 percent of 2008 contributions by TV network execs, writers, reporters | The Daily Caller

WHERE IS THE EQUAL OBAMA BASHING???

 

[TemplarKormac]

Axelrod!!! We've been trying to tell you that!

Why do you think there are 50 states?

But idiots like Obama/Axelrod and supporters having totally NO expertise in ANYTHING except campaigning which they are very very good.. are NOW recognizing why there are 50 states!

The government is simply too big for President Obama to keep track of all the wrongdoing taking place on his watch, his former senior adviser, David Axelrod, told MSNBC. “Part of being president is there’s so much beneath you that you can’t know because the government is so vast,” he explained.
Axelrod: Government ?So Vast,? Obama Can't Know About Wrongdoing | National Review Online


Of course RomneyCare may work in Mass.! But that is just one state and has a fairly homogenous population and is also 6,646,144 people 2% of the US 313,914,040!
But as Axelrod states... 50 states are just to big to manage... THAT's WHY there are 50 state governments! 1,000s of local goverments!

And yet Obamacare and other attempts to nationalize totally forgets that the USA is NOT a homogenous people!
That interests of Texans is different then people in Illinois!

What we that UNDERSTAND that systems as complex as what Obama is trying to institute will fail because of those above characteristics.

It is NOT right that people working in New York are expected to pay the same as people in OK for health care!
It is NOT right that the EPA mandates gas mileage for ALL states when there are so many factors that this can NOT be administered from a cubicle in D.C.!

NOW Axelrod/Obama are coming to grips what we who know better were to tell them.. i.e. the Federal govt. CAN NOT be ALL THINGS to ALL people!
It doesn't work! Common defense... fine! That's it!

Axelrod's idiocy is so vast, he can't tell his ass from his face.

 

[healthmyths]

Consider how out of touch Obama is with the worlds of economics and health care when he states...
Obama said:"I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care program."
First if there is a "single payer" what happens to the 1,300 payers i.e. health insurance companies?
If they are no longer payers what happens to the $100 billion these payers pay in taxes every year? Or the 400,000 employees?
Second... Obama evidently you assume countries with 1/10th the population should be the model for the 310 million Americans.
Obviously he has never studied the demographics and economies of these countries compared to USA and he doesn't see any differences!

So it is this ignorance that should never have been the catalyst for Obamacare and the destruction of health care as we know it!

 

[healthmyths]

Obama also doesn't seem to know how to count because he said there were 46 million uninsured Americans that wanted insurance.
Wrong! 10 million are not citizens! 14 million are already covered by Medicaid and 18 million DON'T WANT health insurance even though offered by employers!
Obama as a lawyer though won't go after the biggest contributor to the $850 billion in duplicate tests,etc. that physicians do out of fear of lawsuits!
He goes after Tanning salons though!

 

[bodecea]

One thing we learned to say in the military if asked about something we did not know about....even in our own shop/division/department/command was "Sir, I do not know but I will find out."

It is understandable for the President of the United States to NOT know everything that goes on in his Administration every minute. However it IS his responsibility to FIND OUT what the heck is going on when he finds out one way or another that something or someone messed up.

Is that an unreasonable expectation? Of any President?

 

[buckeye45_73]

One thing we learned to say in the military if asked about something we did not know about....even in our own shop/division/department/command was "Sir, I do not know but I will find out."

It is understandable for the President of the United States to NOT know everything that goes on in his Administration every minute. However it IS his responsibility to FIND OUT what the heck is going on when he finds out one way or another that something or someone messed up.

Is that an unreasonable expectation? Of any President?

He knew. He's full of shit. Look if all this was going on and he didnt know, he should be impeached for incompetence

 

[Pete7469]

Axelrod's idiocy is so vast, he can't tell his ass from his face.

In all fairness, I can't tell Axelrod's ass from his face either.

 

[bodecea]

One thing we learned to say in the military if asked about something we did not know about....even in our own shop/division/department/command was "Sir, I do not know but I will find out."

It is understandable for the President of the United States to NOT know everything that goes on in his Administration every minute. However it IS his responsibility to FIND OUT what the heck is going on when he finds out one way or another that something or someone messed up.

Is that an unreasonable expectation? Of any President?

He knew. He's full of shit. Look if all this was going on and he didnt know, he should be impeached for incompetence

And it will be up to any investigators to PROVE that he knew from the beginning and either ordered such things (if they are even found to be illegal) and/or did nothing to correct them. Right now....you've got no proof of any of that. But you are measuring the ropes already, aren't you?

 

[healthmyths]

One thing we learned to say in the military if asked about something we did not know about....even in our own shop/division/department/command was "Sir, I do not know but I will find out."

It is understandable for the President of the United States to NOT know everything that goes on in his Administration every minute. However it IS his responsibility to FIND OUT what the heck is going on when he finds out one way or another that something or someone messed up.

Is that an unreasonable expectation? Of any President?

It starts with Obama. He had friends, employees around him that believe the same way Obama does. Those people have the same ideas about the economy. Obama has people around him that don't like capitalism and want to do away with it.
So when you look at the entire AGENDA of Obama you see continued plans to completely alter the USA into their/Obama's image.

So while he definitely can't know exactly he gives them the directions. He hires people with his mind set.

So no matter who does it, these "rogue" employees as they are now calling the IRS violators obviously think this is ok with Obama because HE knows they are hired in his image!

 

[Pete7469]

WHERE IS THE EQUAL OBAMA BASHING???

Don't get me wrong, the moonbat messiah is a complete disaster. The only thing I can't be absolutely certain of is whether his failures are the result of intentional weakening of the country, or just absolute total incompetence.

Jimmy Carter must be banging his head against a wall somewhere.

Now regarding Bush, you make good points about the problems he faced, and the successes he managed.

IMO his failures and mistakes are heavy enough to disqualify him as being as effective a manager.

His foremost mistake was DHS, which is now being used against our interests. He gave the feds TOO MUCH power. There should have been sunset clauses, and provisions to limit who the scope of authority could target.

He didn't fight the left. He compromised with WRONG, and was thus no better than half right on more than a few endeavors. He didn't address the lies of the media, he had no response for the childish attacks and did nothing to expose the lies of democrook politicians. He didn't marginalize the moderate puke RINO's like McLame.

I realize I'm monday morning QB'ing Superbowl XXV at this point, but Bush had much more potential, and was just too nice of a guy.

Now we have a hardcore bed wetting marxist in office. The only saving grace is his utter incompetnce, because he's willing to fight for WRONG, and anyone who who becomes an obstacle gets no mercy.

 

[bodecea]

One thing we learned to say in the military if asked about something we did not know about....even in our own shop/division/department/command was "Sir, I do not know but I will find out."

It is understandable for the President of the United States to NOT know everything that goes on in his Administration every minute. However it IS his responsibility to FIND OUT what the heck is going on when he finds out one way or another that something or someone messed up.

Is that an unreasonable expectation? Of any President?

It starts with Obama. He had friends, employees around him that believe the same way Obama does. Those people have the same ideas about the economy. Obama has people around him that don't like capitalism and want to do away with it.
So when you look at the entire AGENDA of Obama you see continued plans to completely alter the USA into their/Obama's image.

So while he definitely can't know exactly he gives them the directions. He hires people with his mind set.

So no matter who does it, these "rogue" employees as they are now calling the IRS violators obviously think this is ok with Obama because HE knows they are hired in his image!

So...does that change what I said before? (and let's not forget your scenerio falls apart when it comes to the IRS situation....)

 

[boedicca]

One thing one can always count on in a Too Big Too Manage organization...the leaders will always throw some hapless underlings under the bus:

Acting Internal Revenue Service Commissioner Steven Miller has said his agency has pinpointed two "rogue" employees in the agency's Cincinnati office as being principally responsible for "overly aggressive" handling of Tea Party requests for tax-exempt status over the past two years, a congressional source told CNN on Wednesday.

URGENT - IRS-Rogue-Employees | Politics - WYFF Home

 

[Pete7469]

And it will be up to any investigators to PROVE that he knew from the beginning and either ordered such things (if they are even found to be illegal) and/or did nothing to correct them. Right now....you've got no proof of any of that. But you are measuring the ropes already, aren't you?

You know as well as I do that regardless of what is found the moonbat messiah will not face any significant repercussions.

The ghost of Chris Stevens could appear during Obozo's impeachment hearing, testify that the moonbat messiah told the ambassador that he was on his own, no help was coming because he could cover up his death easier than dealing with a conflict in Libya.

The press would blackout the hearing, claim it was a hologram that Karl Rove created, and question wether or not the ghost had standing to testify on earth.

The democrook politicians would stand in lock step with RINO pukes like McLame and refuse to convict. Just like during Clinton's trial. The media chanted the narative "it's all about a blowjob", ignore the actual evidence of perjury and deflect attention.

That's not to say these scandals need to be dropped, but they will be dragged out and they should be. Corruption and democrat are synonyms.

 

[healthmyths]

And it will be up to any investigators to PROVE that he knew from the beginning and either ordered such things (if they are even found to be illegal) and/or did nothing to correct them. Right now....you've got no proof of any of that. But you are measuring the ropes already, aren't you?

You know as well as I do that regardless of what is found the moonbat messiah will not face any significant repercussions.

The ghost of Chris Stevens could appear during Obozo's impeachment hearing, testify that the moonbat messiah told the ambassador that he was on his own, no help was coming because he could cover up his death easier than dealing with a conflict in Libya.

The press would blackout the hearing, claim it was a hologram that Karl Rove created, and question wether or not the ghost had standing to testify on earth.

The democrook politicians would stand in lock step with RINO pukes like McLame and refuse to convict. Just like during Clinton's trial. The media chanted the narative "it's all about a blowjob", ignore the actual evidence of perjury and deflect attention.

That's not to say these scandals need to be dropped, but they will be dragged out and they should be. Corruption and democrat are synonyms.

The minimum hopefully affect will be the slowing down of the legislative ramrodding down America's throat!
Obama's ONLY raison d'être is to create as much legislation that will destroy the USA structures.
Please read
The Cloward–Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined in 1966 by American sociologists and political activists Richard Cloward (1926–2001) and Frances Fox Piven (b. 1932) that called for overloading the U.S. public welfare system in order to precipitate a crisis that would lead to a replacement of the welfare system with a national system of "a guaranteed annual income and thus an end to poverty". Cloward and Piven were a married couple who were both professors at the Columbia University School of Social Work. The strategy was formulated in a May 1966 article in liberal[1] magazine The Nation titled "The Weight of the Poor: A Strategy to End Poverty".[2]
Cloward?Piven strategy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
that's Obama's objective and not just for welfare but everything!

 

[Pete7469]

The minimum hopefully affect will be the slowing down of the legislative ramrodding down America's throat!
Obama's ONLY raison d'être is to create as much legislation that will destroy the USA structures.
Please read
The Cloward–Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined in 1966 by American sociologists and political activists Richard Cloward (1926–2001) and Frances Fox Piven (b. 1932) that called for overloading the U.S. public welfare system in order to precipitate a crisis that would lead to a replacement of the welfare system with a national system of "a guaranteed annual income and thus an end to poverty". Cloward and Piven were a married couple who were both professors at the Columbia University School of Social Work. The strategy was formulated in a May 1966 article in liberal[1] magazine The Nation titled "The Weight of the Poor: A Strategy to End Poverty".[2]
Cloward?Piven strategy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
that's Obama's objective and not just for welfare but everything!

I feel confident that the moonbat messiah is little more than a lame duck. In spite of the fact he won re-election there was no where near the excitement in his base. The vener was off the facade. He barely eeked out a victory over Romney, and the only reason Romney was the challenger is because the media machine destroyed every other republican one by one, until they had the one they wanted.

The proof he's lame lies in the fact that even after a horrific mass murder, and a terror attack that ended in a gun battle, the moonbat messiah still couldn't get some of his own fellow democrooks to risk their own asses to support gun control. Even after headlining bullshit statistics about %80 support, he failed. For the time being he's under the clouds of numerous scandals, so he's not likely to get much legislatively. That's why he needs to be watched even more, so he can't do some other shit while we're distracted.

I'm familiar with C/P, these 2 insane assholes should have been commited. Between them and Alynski, I don't know how a liberal can look in the mirror and see anything better than an egg sucking dog.

 

[RoadVirus]

WHERE IS THE EQUAL OBAMA BASHING???

Don't get me wrong, the moonbat messiah is a complete disaster. The only thing I can't be absolutely certain of is whether his failures are the result of intentional weakening of the country, or just absolute total incompetence.

I think it's both, but it's more about incompetence then intentional destruction.

 

[Stephanie]

What a LEADER, doesn't know shit about what his administration is doing and evidently doesn't care...that would interfere with his golf, vacations and his continuous running all over the country for his lavish fundraisers and hateful speeches at high schools and colleges

 

[Interpol]

Consider how out of touch Obama is with the worlds of economics and health care when he states...
Obama said:"I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care program."
First if there is a "single payer" what happens to the 1,300 payers i.e. health insurance companies?
If they are no longer payers what happens to the $100 billion these payers pay in taxes every year? Or the 400,000 employees?
Second... Obama evidently you assume countries with 1/10th the population should be the model for the 310 million Americans.
Obviously he has never studied the demographics and economies of these countries compared to USA and he doesn't see any differences!

So it is this ignorance that should never have been the catalyst for Obamacare and the destruction of health care as we know it!

It's an ignorant statement to say that the President is out of touch on economics when Europe and Australia went into a tailspin with their austerity-only plans.

We did the right thing by mixing stimulus with tax cuts with spending cuts. It's the right recipe, and we need more stimulus right now, particularly because our deficit is actually beginning to shrink now to about a third of what it was just 5 years ago.

We got a fragile recovery while austerity-only caused a double-dip recession in Europe. Obama was right.