"B ... but Obama!"

John Shaw

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Why is this the go-to response when it comes to Trump defenders talking about Trump? The subject is Trump, and yet they always drag it back to Obama, Hillary, or the media.

This time they're defending a group of self-proclaimed racists who, if they had the power, would gladly exterminate non-white people, using "b ... but ANTIFA! But BLM! But deep state!"

Seriously, it's kinda gross. First of all, Hillary and Obama are IRRELEVANT! That's why everyone rolls their eyes when you drag us back to them. We don't give a shit about them anymore.

Second of all, how are you all so sure it was the demonstrators who started the violence, when the neo-nazis were running around with torches, combat gear, and clubs? Where is your evidence of this?

You guys are honestly coming off as supporters of white nationalism. You do realize that, right?
 
Liberals did the same shit when people criticized Obama. "But Bush!" The circle of life I guess.

The media tried to brush over criticism of Obama, acting like it was just a bunch of pissed off white guys called the tea party, not to be taken seriously.

But I was pretty young in the Bush years and didn't pay any attention to politics.
 
Liberals did the same shit when people criticized Obama. "But Bush!" The circle of life I guess.

The media tried to brush over criticism of Obama, acting like it was just a bunch of pissed off white guys called the tea party, not to be taken seriously.

But I was pretty young in the Bush years and didn't pay any attention to politics.
But I was pretty young in the Bush years

I'd say you're still pretty young
 
Liberals did the same shit when people criticized Obama. "But Bush!" The circle of life I guess.

The media tried to brush over criticism of Obama, acting like it was just a bunch of pissed off white guys called the tea party, not to be taken seriously.

But I was pretty young in the Bush years and didn't pay any attention to politics.
But I was pretty young in the Bush years

I'd say you're still pretty young

Okay. Maybe compared to some of the long-toothed old white supremacists on here I am.
 
Why is this the go-to response when it comes to Trump defenders talking about Trump? The subject is Trump, and yet they always drag it back to Obama, Hillary, or the media.

This time they're defending a group of self-proclaimed racists who, if they had the power, would gladly exterminate non-white people, using "b ... but ANTIFA! But BLM! But deep state!"

Seriously, it's kinda gross. First of all, Hillary and Obama are IRRELEVANT! That's why everyone rolls their eyes when you drag us back to them. We don't give a shit about them anymore.

Second of all, how are you all so sure it was the demonstrators who started the violence, when the neo-nazis were running around with torches, combat gear, and clubs? Where is your evidence of this?

You guys are honestly coming off as supporters of white nationalism. You do realize that, right?
John what has jug head done now? I mean he left the country to avoid treason prosecution, that should be good enough right? Am I missing something? I mean the Obama race war is continuing nicely, don't you think?
 
Why is this the go-to response when it comes to Trump defenders talking about Trump? The subject is Trump, and yet they always drag it back to Obama, Hillary, or the media.

This time they're defending a group of self-proclaimed racists who, if they had the power, would gladly exterminate non-white people, using "b ... but ANTIFA! But BLM! But deep state!"

Seriously, it's kinda gross. First of all, Hillary and Obama are IRRELEVANT! That's why everyone rolls their eyes when you drag us back to them. We don't give a shit about them anymore.

Second of all, how are you all so sure it was the demonstrators who started the violence, when the neo-nazis were running around with torches, combat gear, and clubs? Where is your evidence of this?

You guys are honestly coming off as supporters of white nationalism. You do realize that, right?
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Why is this the go-to response when it comes to Trump defenders talking about Trump? The subject is Trump, and yet they always drag it back to Obama, Hillary, or the media.

This time they're defending a group of self-proclaimed racists who, if they had the power, would gladly exterminate non-white people, using "b ... but ANTIFA! But BLM! But deep state!"

Seriously, it's kinda gross. First of all, Hillary and Obama are IRRELEVANT! That's why everyone rolls their eyes when you drag us back to them. We don't give a shit about them anymore.

Second of all, how are you all so sure it was the demonstrators who started the violence, when the neo-nazis were running around with torches, combat gear, and clubs? Where is your evidence of this?

You guys are honestly coming off as supporters of white nationalism. You do realize that, right?

Again, the Left's first instinct is ALWAYS totalitarianism, your want to use the Government as a bludgeon to get you way in everything. Like them or not those "extremists" had every "right" to assemble and march. How do you know that the "counter protestors" DIDN'T start the violence?
 
Why is this the go-to response when it comes to Trump defenders talking about Trump? The subject is Trump, and yet they always drag it back to Obama, Hillary, or the media.

This time they're defending a group of self-proclaimed racists who, if they had the power, would gladly exterminate non-white people, using "b ... but ANTIFA! But BLM! But deep state!"

Seriously, it's kinda gross. First of all, Hillary and Obama are IRRELEVANT! That's why everyone rolls their eyes when you drag us back to them. We don't give a shit about them anymore.

Second of all, how are you all so sure it was the demonstrators who started the violence, when the neo-nazis were running around with torches, combat gear, and clubs? Where is your evidence of this?

You guys are honestly coming off as supporters of white nationalism. You do realize that, right?

Again, the Left's first instinct is ALWAYS totalitarianism, your want to use the Government as a bludgeon to get you way in everything. Like them or not those "extremists" had every "right" to assemble and march. How do you know that the "counter protestors" DIDN'T start the violence?
He doesn't know who started it anymore than you are I do. he just wants it to be that way. Strange though how nothing else is coming out about it.
 
The point is, as far as I'm aware, we don't know who started it. But the terrorist actor was a sympathizer if not outright activist with the white nationalists, and he tried to kill a crowd full of people. He was not an "ANTIFA" activist, or any other kind of activist.

I don't hear the white supremacists coming out against his evil actions. Rather, they're smirking and chirping about how Trump won't touch them.
 
Now is the moment that these people need to seriously examine their beliefs for perhaps the first time in their lives and decide where they want to stand. I think many are siding with the Nazis simply because liberals rightly despise them rather than an actual sympathy for this ugliest of political movements. This reluctance to side with liberals on the blight of white supremacy will not end well for them because these Nazi fucks have nothing of value to offer them, only guilt by association.
 
The point is, as far as I'm aware, we don't know who started it. But the terrorist actor was a sympathizer if not outright activist with the white nationalists, and he tried to kill a crowd full of people. He was not an "ANTIFA" activist, or any other kind of activist.
And you know this how?
 
Why is this the go-to response when it comes to Trump defenders talking about Trump? The subject is Trump, and yet they always drag it back to Obama, Hillary, or the media.

This time they're defending a group of self-proclaimed racists who, if they had the power, would gladly exterminate non-white people, using "b ... but ANTIFA! But BLM! But deep state!"

Seriously, it's kinda gross. First of all, Hillary and Obama are IRRELEVANT! That's why everyone rolls their eyes when you drag us back to them. We don't give a shit about them anymore.

Second of all, how are you all so sure it was the demonstrators who started the violence, when the neo-nazis were running around with torches, combat gear, and clubs? Where is your evidence of this?

You guys are honestly coming off as supporters of white nationalism. You do realize that, right?

Again, the Left's first instinct is ALWAYS totalitarianism, your want to use the Government as a bludgeon to get you way in everything. Like them or not those "extremists" had every "right" to assemble and march. How do you know that the "counter protestors" DIDN'T start the violence?
He doesn't know who started it anymore than you are I do. he just wants it to be that way. Strange though how nothing else is coming out about it.

Actually my biggest fear is that this will be the flashpoint for a much larger problem.
 
The point is, as far as I'm aware, we don't know who started it. But the terrorist actor was a sympathizer if not outright activist with the white nationalists, and he tried to kill a crowd full of people. He was not an "ANTIFA" activist, or any other kind of activist.

I don't hear the white supremacists coming out against his evil actions. Rather, they're smirking and chirping about how Trump won't touch them.

Who cares what they're doing? The only one culpable here is who ever was driving the car.
 
The point is, as far as I'm aware, we don't know who started it. But the terrorist actor was a sympathizer if not outright activist with the white nationalists, and he tried to kill a crowd full of people. He was not an "ANTIFA" activist, or any other kind of activist.

I don't hear the white supremacists coming out against his evil actions. Rather, they're smirking and chirping about how Trump won't touch them.

Who cares what they're doing? The only one culpable here is who ever was driving the car.

It's important because there HAVE BEEN violent terrorist acts committed by left-leaning people. The difference is, Bernie Sanders wasn't laughing about it on Twitter. Even BLM disassociated itself from the Dallas cop-killer.

It's the difference between a bad person inspired by a good or neutral cause, and a bad person inspired by an evil cause. The latter being, well, ISIS and other Islamic terror groups.
 
Why is this the go-to response when it comes to Trump defenders talking about Trump? The subject is Trump, and yet they always drag it back to Obama, Hillary, or the media.

Trump said North Korea has been doing what they're now doing for the last 20+ years. And blames previous administrations for not fixing the problem.

Well Trump is in the big chair now, yet complains about nobody fixing healthcare, taxes, deficits, national debt, Afghanistan, you name it, it's somebody elses fault, not Trumps.

Yet Trump said fixing all those things would be easy, and he'd get them done in his first 100 days

Still waiting...
 
Now is the moment that these people need to seriously examine their beliefs for perhaps the first time in their lives and decide where they want to stand. I think many are siding with the Nazis simply because liberals rightly despise them rather than an actual sympathy for this ugliest of political movements. This reluctance to side with liberals on the blight of white supremacy will not end well for them because these Nazi fucks have nothing of value to offer them, only guilt by association.

Nope. You couldn't be more wrong. The "right" to free speech includes shit you don't like and don't want to hear. YOU don't have the "right" to outlaw speech that offends you.

It's just that simple.
 
Why is this the go-to response when it comes to Trump defenders talking about Trump? The subject is Trump, and yet they always drag it back to Obama, Hillary, or the media.

Trump said North Korea has been doing what they're now doing for the last 20+ years. And blames previous administrations for not fixing the problem.

Well Trump is in the big chair now, yet complains about nobody fixing healthcare, taxes, deficits, national debt, Afghanistan, you name it, it's somebody elses fault, not Trumps.

Yet Trump said fixing all those things would be easy, and he'd get them done in his first 100 days

Still waiting...

Yeah ... I mean, even his supporters knew he was full of shit, but it's really astonishing how little he and the republicans have accomplished so far.
 
The point is, as far as I'm aware, we don't know who started it. But the terrorist actor was a sympathizer if not outright activist with the white nationalists, and he tried to kill a crowd full of people. He was not an "ANTIFA" activist, or any other kind of activist.

I don't hear the white supremacists coming out against his evil actions. Rather, they're smirking and chirping about how Trump won't touch them.

Who cares what they're doing? The only one culpable here is who ever was driving the car.

It's important because there HAVE BEEN violent terrorist acts committed by left-leaning people. The difference is, Bernie Sanders wasn't laughing about it on Twitter. Even BLM disassociated itself from the Dallas cop-killer.

It's the difference between a bad person inspired by a good or neutral cause, and a bad person inspired by an evil cause. The latter being, well, ISIS and other Islamic terror groups.

The ONLY one culpable is the driver. Everyone else has the "right" to giggle, laugh or whatever. Freedom cuts both ways.
 

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