Bad News for Opponents of Obamacare

[Smilodonfatalis]

Now folks, you see who it REALLY is (liberals-Democrats) and what party (Democrat) that calls people, FREELOADERS, MOOCHERS, ETC

it's not the people on welfare, etc. It's the people they WANT TO FORCE into a government program and if you resist those are the sweet names you are called...

why anyone would be Democrat is beyond me this is what THEY THINK OF YOU

Ignoring my question won't make it go away.

What is your solution?

You are already paying for people who don't have insurance with your higher health insurance premiums.

Why are you refusing to answer my question?

Are you too afraid to reveal your ignorance?

 

[dilloduck]

I ask again.

What is your solution?

You are already subsidizing other people's health care.

You sure are avoiding my point.

WHY----WHY is anyone paying for someone else's health care---are they just too fucking stupid to write a check ?

Do you just not get it?

The health insurance premiums you pay are higher because you are paying to support a medical system that takes care of people who have no insurance. Some of these people who don't have insurance really can't afford it, but there are many who can afford it but choose to mooch off the system.

Oh I get it alright----I'm paying for someone else's medical bills. I'm paying for the ones who can't make enough money to pay for their own health care or are just incapable for some reason. It's socialism

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Yea ok...if they say so
The states said they made their est...onversations with HHS about reasonable goals.

Myth

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

well yeah, nothing like BEING FORCED and fined if you don't...

and now they are hoping we the people "surrender"...surrendering our freedoms is the goal of ObamaCare..


but hey, Who needs FREEDOM when you have GOVERNMENT...

I guess you want to be free to mooch off everyone else who has health insurance when you get sick and run to the emergency room for your free doctoring.

Sanity? The right and libertardarians will take the free ride while denying they are doing so

 

[dilloduck]

well yeah, nothing like BEING FORCED and fined if you don't...

and now they are hoping we the people "surrender"...surrendering our freedoms is the goal of ObamaCare..


but hey, Who needs FREEDOM when you have GOVERNMENT...

I guess you want to be free to mooch off everyone else who has health insurance when you get sick and run to the emergency room for your free doctoring.

Sanity? The right and libertardarians will take the free ride while denying they are doing so

There are individuals who have always been responsible and maybe fortunate enough to never have needed other people to pay for their health care. That's not denial.

 

[Immanuel]

well yeah, nothing like BEING FORCED and fined if you don't...

and now they are hoping we the people "surrender"...surrendering our freedoms is the goal of ObamaCare..


but hey, Who needs FREEDOM when you have GOVERNMENT...

I guess you want to be free to mooch off everyone else who has health insurance when you get sick and run to the emergency room for your free doctoring.

And what are all those who will receive subsidies for their insurance doing?

Why, their mooching off everyone else, go figure. I guess it is ok for them to do so because they have capitulated to you authoritarians, but those who want to maintain whatever amount of independence they still can are the scum of the earth to those of you who want total control of everyone else.

Immie

 

[Immanuel]

I guess you want to be free to mooch off everyone else who has health insurance when you get sick and run to the emergency room for your free doctoring.

You little jerkoff, I haven't been to an emergency room in 10 years or more..And I PAY for my health care, not you or the government...We know that is A FOREIGN concept to you government dependent idiots...

what a useless parrot you are, you must be proud

Why don't you actually try responding to my point? That you are in favor of people mooching off others when it comes to health care.

Funny, seems you are as well. So why are you attacking Stephanie for apparently wanting the same thing you want?

Immie

 

[Pop23]

I ask again.

What is your solution?

You are already subsidizing other people's health care.

You sure are avoiding my point.

WHY----WHY is anyone paying for someone else's health care---are they just too fucking stupid to write a check ?

Do you just not get it?

The health insurance premiums you pay are higher because you are paying to support a medical system that takes care of people who have no insurance. Some of these people who don't have insurance really can't afford it, but there are many who can afford it but choose to mooch off the system.

I don't think you get it. We will NOw be subsidizing even MORE people. Most of which are currently paying the full amount. In the future they will pay less putting even more of the burden on the few.

Subsidies will become a political football. Political parties will pay for votes by increasing subsidies to higher and higher income levels. It is a nightmare about to happen.

Look the other way while the train wreck happens.

 

[Smilodonfatalis]

WHY----WHY is anyone paying for someone else's health care---are they just too fucking stupid to write a check ?

Do you just not get it?

The health insurance premiums you pay are higher because you are paying to support a medical system that takes care of people who have no insurance. Some of these people who don't have insurance really can't afford it, but there are many who can afford it but choose to mooch off the system.

I don't think you get it. We will NOw be subsidizing even MORE people. Most of which are currently paying the full amount. In the future they will pay less putting even more of the burden on the few.

Subsidies will become a political football. Political parties will pay for votes by increasing subsidies to higher and higher income levels. It is a nightmare about to happen.

Look the other way while the train wreck happens.

How could we subsidizing more people?

Are more people going to get sick now than did before?

 

[Smilodonfatalis]

WHY----WHY is anyone paying for someone else's health care---are they just too fucking stupid to write a check ?

Do you just not get it?

The health insurance premiums you pay are higher because you are paying to support a medical system that takes care of people who have no insurance. Some of these people who don't have insurance really can't afford it, but there are many who can afford it but choose to mooch off the system.

Oh I get it alright----I'm paying for someone else's medical bills. I'm paying for the ones who can't make enough money to pay for their own health care or are just incapable for some reason. It's socialism

Do you think hospitals and doctors should refuse to treat people who can't afford medical care?

 

[dilloduck]

Do you just not get it?

The health insurance premiums you pay are higher because you are paying to support a medical system that takes care of people who have no insurance. Some of these people who don't have insurance really can't afford it, but there are many who can afford it but choose to mooch off the system.

Oh I get it alright----I'm paying for someone else's medical bills. I'm paying for the ones who can't make enough money to pay for their own health care or are just incapable for some reason. It's socialism

Do you think hospitals and doctors should refuse to treat people who can't afford medical care?

Finally got down to the nuts and bolts of the matter. One reason medical care is so incredibly expensive is that Americans insist that everyone gets treatment whether they can afford it or not. Knowing this is comforting to those who want treatment but choose not to pay. They are lucky Americans have big hearts.

http://www.ijreview.com/2013/08/734...insurance-skip-obamacare-and-pay-the-penalty/

oh and there's this

 

[WillowTree]

States predict more insurance customers

If it proves this popular, opponents of Obamacare might as well raise the white flag.

well since it's MANDATED retard of course the prediction is more insurance customers. That doesn't mean they like it it means they're FORCED TO BUY IT.


Glad to have the opportunity to clear that up for you!

 

[WillowTree]

well yeah, nothing like BEING FORCED and fined if you don't...

and now they are hoping we the people "surrender"...surrendering our freedoms is the goal of ObamaCare..


but hey, Who needs FREEDOM when you have GOVERNMENT...

I guess you want to be free to mooch off everyone else who has health insurance when you get sick and run to the emergency room for your free doctoring.

Don't hand us that bullshit, We all know that about 50 million of you non FEDERAL TAXPAyers will have to have your insurance bought and paid for you by we the TAXPAYERS. IN OTHER WORDS WE'RE MANDATED TO BUY OURS AND THEN WE'RE MANDATED TO PAY FOR YOURS.

 

[dilloduck]

States predict more insurance customers

If it proves this popular, opponents of Obamacare might as well raise the white flag.

well since it's MANDATED retard of course the prediction is more insurance customers. That doesn't mean they like it it means they're FORCED TO BUY IT.


Glad to have the opportunity to clear that up for you!

It's cheaper to just pay the fine. They may be surprised when push comes to shove.

 

[Bfgrn]

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No doubt there will be more people enrolling than "the government" expected, since so many will be thrown off their health plans at work when they go to part time. "The government" didn't see that one coming, or did they?

Should be interesting also to see how many people have to start paying for their health insurance and how they react when they realize how little a high-deductible health plan covers.

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What those workers should do is demand a raise. Employers DON'T pay for employee's health insurance, the employees do. It is merely deferred wages, not a freebee.

 

[WillowTree]

If the aca is so damn good why did congress beg to be let out? And why did obummmer let them out? Huh?

 

[dilloduck]

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No doubt there will be more people enrolling than "the government" expected, since so many will be thrown off their health plans at work when they go to part time. "The government" didn't see that one coming, or did they?

Should be interesting also to see how many people have to start paying for their health insurance and how they react when they realize how little a high-deductible health plan covers.

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What those workers should do is demand a raise. Employers DON'T pay for employee's health insurance, the employees do. It is merely deferred wages, not a freebee.

As if that's going to happen---. Obama is simply carrying on the tradition of stealing from people.

 

[Pop23]

Do you just not get it?

The health insurance premiums you pay are higher because you are paying to support a medical system that takes care of people who have no insurance. Some of these people who don't have insurance really can't afford it, but there are many who can afford it but choose to mooch off the system.

I don't think you get it. We will NOw be subsidizing even MORE people. Most of which are currently paying the full amount. In the future they will pay less putting even more of the burden on the few.

Subsidies will become a political football. Political parties will pay for votes by increasing subsidies to higher and higher income levels. It is a nightmare about to happen.

Look the other way while the train wreck happens.

How could we subsidizing more people?

Are more people going to get sick now than did before?

How could we subsidize more people?

You got your head buried in the sand?

We will be paying people to buy health insurance! Based on income levels.

That's subsidizing many more than we are today under the current system. Most of those getting those payments currently are paying the full price.

You've created a system that will make "mooching" the norm.

 

[WillowTree]

do you just not get it?

The health insurance premiums you pay are higher because you are paying to support a medical system that takes care of people who have no insurance. Some of these people who don't have insurance really can't afford it, but there are many who can afford it but choose to mooch off the system.

oh i get it alright----i'm paying for someone else's medical bills. I'm paying for the ones who can't make enough money to pay for their own health care or are just incapable for some reason. It's socialism

do you think hospitals and doctors should refuse to treat people who can't afford medical care?

do you think hospitals and doctors will work for nothing? Expect less of both.

 

[dilloduck]

You nailed it Pops !