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I'd like to see some state like Texas try to secede today, and have to explain why
1. most of the money Texans have paid into Social Security and Medicare would be lost.
2. tens of thousands of federal jobs would be leaving the state
...for starters...
I'd like to see some state like Texas try to secede today, and have to explain why
1. most of the money Texans have paid into Social Security and Medicare would be lost.
2. tens of thousands of federal jobs would be leaving the state
...for starters...
- There is no money in the Social Security or Medicare trust funds. Nothing lost there.
- $billions of dollars would no longer leave the state to pay for federal boondoggles like Obamacare.
Yes they were point being? No flag of the CSA ever flew over a slave ship..the stars and stripes did...typical idiot hates the sources so throws baby out with the bath water.
Typically those ships had New England owners and crews. A bunch of damn Yankees purchased the slaves in Africa, crammed them into the filthy holds of their slave ships and then carted them to Charleston or Baltimore where they were sold.
However, that's all academic, since according to the moral code of the Lincoln cult might makes right and those slaves got just what they deserved, right Sallow?
Your knowledge of history is just about as good as your knowledge of the Constitution.
In any case, those poor poor Southerners had no intention of getting rid of their free labor.
Hence the war.
Hey Bripat, you lost then, you continue to lose now. The South is and always will be part of the Union. One Nation, Indivisable, with Liberty and Justice for All. Don't like that, get your scummy as to some other nation.
I beleive they had the same problem in some Nothern Georgian counties.
And WESTERN Virginia clearly was not down with the CSA.
Everything that the CSA claimed they opposed about the Union the CSA then did to its own people.
The war was about one thing and one thing only...protecting slavery.
Everything else CSA apologists tell you is rationalizing BS.
Death to all slavers
Except for the fact one of the South's greatest Generals was from WV and MANY units from WV fought for the south. The war was about independence from an over reaching government. Slavery had died out everywhere else peacefully and would have done so in the south as well.
What was the overreach exactly?
I'd like to see some state like Texas try to secede today, and have to explain why
1. most of the money Texans have paid into Social Security and Medicare would be lost.
2. tens of thousands of federal jobs would be leaving the state
...for starters...
- There is no money in the Social Security or Medicare trust funds. Nothing lost there.
- $billions of dollars would no longer leave the state to pay for federal boondoggles like Obamacare.
I'd like to see some state like Texas try to secede today, and have to explain why
1. most of the money Texans have paid into Social Security and Medicare would be lost.
2. tens of thousands of federal jobs would be leaving the state
...for starters...
- There is no money in the Social Security or Medicare trust funds. Nothing lost there.
- $billions of dollars would no longer leave the state to pay for federal boondoggles like Obamacare.
Texas gets about the same amount of money in federal spending that it pays in federal taxes. Texas would have to raise state taxes to replace all of that money.
As to Medicare and SS, anyone in Texas who was not already on Medicare or SS (and maybe them too) would have paid payroll taxes for as many years as they worked and would lose all of that,
because you can be sure the U.S. would not pay them any SS or Medicare when they reached eligibility age, if they have left the nation by secession.
Sell that to Texans, or anyone else in any state that wants to secede.
What grievances today rise to the level of justifying that a state leave the Union?
Or are we to assume that secession can be on a whim?
Not only is secession un-Constitutional, but no state left the Union as a consequence of secession:
Not only is secession un-Constitutional, but no state left the Union as a consequence of secession:
HUH?
WTF?
Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people
.
What grievances today rise to the level of justifying that a state leave the Union?
Or are we to assume that secession can be on a whim?
Obamacare
Welcome to my nightmare
Not only is secession un-Constitutional, but no state left the Union as a consequence of secession:
HUH?
WTF?
Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people
.
For example,
a state that seceded would presumably stop paying federal income and payroll taxes. The power to levy those taxes is held by the federal government, and is constitutional. Overturning federal tax law would not be a 10th amendment state right.
Not only is secession un-Constitutional, but no state left the Union as a consequence of secession:
HUH?
WTF?
Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people
.
For example,
a state that seceded would presumably stop paying federal income and payroll taxes. The power to levy those taxes is held by the federal government, and is constitutional. Overturning federal tax law would not be a 10th amendment state right.
Except for the fact one of the South's greatest Generals was from WV and MANY units from WV fought for the south. The war was about independence from an over reaching government. Slavery had died out everywhere else peacefully and would have done so in the south as well.
What was the overreach exactly?
Invading the state of Virginia was overreach.
What grievances today rise to the level of justifying that a state leave the Union?
Or are we to assume that secession can be on a whim?
Obamacare
Welcome to my nightmare
That's it? lol. You people really are in the throes of hysteria.
HUH?
WTF?
Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people
.
For example,
a state that seceded would presumably stop paying federal income and payroll taxes. The power to levy those taxes is held by the federal government, and is constitutional. Overturning federal tax law would not be a 10th amendment state right.
Yo Ding
Show me by Article, Section and Clause the Constitutional proviso which states that the states intended to create a PERMANENT UNION AND WAIVED THEIR RIGHT TO SECEDE.
.
What was the overreach exactly?
Invading the state of Virginia was overreach.
You're denying there's a constitutional authority for the government to put down domestic rebellion, insurrection, etc.?
lol
What was the overreach exactly?
Invading the state of Virginia was overreach.
You're denying there's a constitutional authority for the government to put down domestic rebellion, insurrection, etc.?
lol
For example,
a state that seceded would presumably stop paying federal income and payroll taxes. The power to levy those taxes is held by the federal government, and is constitutional. Overturning federal tax law would not be a 10th amendment state right.
Yo Ding
Show me by Article, Section and Clause the Constitutional proviso which states that the states intended to create a PERMANENT UNION AND WAIVED THEIR RIGHT TO SECEDE.
.
Let's stick to the topic you brought up. The tenth amendment. What federal laws does the tenth amendment give states the right to violate?
Are you really that ignorant of the Constitution?
He had the power to squash insurrection.
You wanna consider that mass murder? It's war.
He left out "freed the slaves"....I guess we'll hear next that there were no slaves; just employees who didn't know how to negotiate.
I'm beginning to believe you're actually retarded.
