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Zionist Jews incited the violence by attempting to take the Temple Mount which is obviously Arab holy land. Prior to the zionist degenerates inciting this violence, Jews and Muslims and Christians lived in peace in Palestine for centuries. Beyond that, many Muslims protected Jews and even hid them in their homes.

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Why is it called "Temple Mount"? Because it's a Jewish holy place where both Jewish temples was located before Muslims even took control of Jerusalem in 637. So, by your implied argument, being "obviously Arab holy land" actually means less than nothing.
Dumb. Jews call it that from their religious texts which are NEVER used as an historical reference by any legitimate historian or researcher. Beyond that, there is no evidence of these temples, even the west wall is not a settled matter. At the same time, there are massive amounts of archeological evidence of other structures (many still standing) from that same time period around our world.
 
...There was a Temple long before there was a Dome.
But not one shred of evidence that any Jewish temple existed there as the Muslim temple still stands where it has been for centuries.
In mid-August 1929, hundreds of Jewish nationalists marched to the Western Wall in Jerusalem shouting slogans such as The Wall is Ours and raising the Jewish national flag.[16] Rumours spread that Jewish youths had also attacked Arabs and had cursed Muhammad.[22][23] Following an inflammatory sermon the next day, hundreds of Muslims converged on the Western Wall, burning prayer books and injuring the beadle. The rioting soon spread to the Jewish commercial area of town[24][25] and the next day, August 17, a young Jew was stabbed to death.[26] The authorities failed to quell the violence. On Friday, August 23, inflamed by rumors that Jews were planning to attack al-Aqsa Mosque, Arabs started to attack Jews in the Old City of Jerusalem.The first murders of the day took place when two or three Arabs passing by the Jewish Quarter of Mea Shearim were killed.[27] Rumours that Jews had massacred Arabs in Jerusalem then reached Hebron by that evening.[14] Hillel Cohen frames his recent narrative of the incident in terms of the murder of the Jaffa Awan family by a Jewish police constable called Simcha Hinkis.[28]

Mere rumor is all it takes for Islamics to launch a killing spree. That's followed by "the Jooooos made us do it".
Mere rumor is all it takes for Jews to launch a killing spree. That's followed by "the Mooooslims made us do it".

Except that the Western Wall is itself the evidence.

Zionist Jews incited the violence by attempting to take the Temple Mount which is obviously Arab holy land. Prior to the zionist degenerates inciting this violence, Jews and Muslims and Christians lived in peace in Palestine for centuries. Beyond that, many Muslims protected Jews and even hid them in their homes.

/end thread

Why is it called "Temple Mount"? Because it's a Jewish holy place where both Jewish temples was located before Muslims even took control of Jerusalem in 637. So, by your implied argument, being "obviously Arab holy land" actually means less than nothing.
Dumb. Jews call it that from their religious texts which are NEVER used as an historical reference by any legitimate historian or researcher. Beyond that, there is no evidence of these temples, even the west wall is not a settled matter. At the same time, there are massive amounts of archeological evidence of other structures (many still standing) from that same time period around our world.

You sir, are a moron and I see no reason to honor your silly post with a retort.
 
...There was a Temple long before there was a Dome.
But not one shred of evidence that any Jewish temple existed there as the Muslim temple still stands where it has been for centuries.
In mid-August 1929, hundreds of Jewish nationalists marched to the Western Wall in Jerusalem shouting slogans such as The Wall is Ours and raising the Jewish national flag.[16] Rumours spread that Jewish youths had also attacked Arabs and had cursed Muhammad.[22][23] Following an inflammatory sermon the next day, hundreds of Muslims converged on the Western Wall, burning prayer books and injuring the beadle. The rioting soon spread to the Jewish commercial area of town[24][25] and the next day, August 17, a young Jew was stabbed to death.[26] The authorities failed to quell the violence. On Friday, August 23, inflamed by rumors that Jews were planning to attack al-Aqsa Mosque, Arabs started to attack Jews in the Old City of Jerusalem.The first murders of the day took place when two or three Arabs passing by the Jewish Quarter of Mea Shearim were killed.[27] Rumours that Jews had massacred Arabs in Jerusalem then reached Hebron by that evening.[14] Hillel Cohen frames his recent narrative of the incident in terms of the murder of the Jaffa Awan family by a Jewish police constable called Simcha Hinkis.[28]

Mere rumor is all it takes for Islamics to launch a killing spree. That's followed by "the Jooooos made us do it".
Mere rumor is all it takes for Jews to launch a killing spree. That's followed by "the Mooooslims made us do it".

Except that the Western Wall is itself the evidence.

Zionist Jews incited the violence by attempting to take the Temple Mount which is obviously Arab holy land. Prior to the zionist degenerates inciting this violence, Jews and Muslims and Christians lived in peace in Palestine for centuries. Beyond that, many Muslims protected Jews and even hid them in their homes.

/end thread

Why is it called "Temple Mount"? Because it's a Jewish holy place where both Jewish temples was located before Muslims even took control of Jerusalem in 637. So, by your implied argument, being "obviously Arab holy land" actually means less than nothing.
Dumb. Jews call it that from their religious texts which are NEVER used as an historical reference by any legitimate historian or researcher. Beyond that, there is no evidence of these temples, even the west wall is not a settled matter. At the same time, there are massive amounts of archeological evidence of other structures (many still standing) from that same time period around our world.

You sir, are a moron and I see no reason to honor your silly post with a retort.
The western wall is hardly a settled matter with respect to ANYTHING related to the Jews.

The temple mount is what Jews call it. The Muslim world (a couple billion people) call it Haram esh-Sharif.

You wont honor my post with a retort because, really, what could you say? I simply stated facts.
 
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...There was a Temple long before there was a Dome.
But not one shred of evidence that any Jewish temple existed there as the Muslim temple still stands where it has been for centuries.
In mid-August 1929, hundreds of Jewish nationalists marched to the Western Wall in Jerusalem shouting slogans such as The Wall is Ours and raising the Jewish national flag.[16] Rumours spread that Jewish youths had also attacked Arabs and had cursed Muhammad.[22][23] Following an inflammatory sermon the next day, hundreds of Muslims converged on the Western Wall, burning prayer books and injuring the beadle. The rioting soon spread to the Jewish commercial area of town[24][25] and the next day, August 17, a young Jew was stabbed to death.[26] The authorities failed to quell the violence. On Friday, August 23, inflamed by rumors that Jews were planning to attack al-Aqsa Mosque, Arabs started to attack Jews in the Old City of Jerusalem.The first murders of the day took place when two or three Arabs passing by the Jewish Quarter of Mea Shearim were killed.[27] Rumours that Jews had massacred Arabs in Jerusalem then reached Hebron by that evening.[14] Hillel Cohen frames his recent narrative of the incident in terms of the murder of the Jaffa Awan family by a Jewish police constable called Simcha Hinkis.[28]

Mere rumor is all it takes for Islamics to launch a killing spree. That's followed by "the Jooooos made us do it".
Mere rumor is all it takes for Jews to launch a killing spree. That's followed by "the Mooooslims made us do it".

Except that the Western Wall is itself the evidence.

Zionist Jews incited the violence by attempting to take the Temple Mount which is obviously Arab holy land. Prior to the zionist degenerates inciting this violence, Jews and Muslims and Christians lived in peace in Palestine for centuries. Beyond that, many Muslims protected Jews and even hid them in their homes.

/end thread

Why is it called "Temple Mount"? Because it's a Jewish holy place where both Jewish temples was located before Muslims even took control of Jerusalem in 637. So, by your implied argument, being "obviously Arab holy land" actually means less than nothing.
Dumb. Jews call it that from their religious texts which are NEVER used as an historical reference by any legitimate historian or researcher. Beyond that, there is no evidence of these temples, even the west wall is not a settled matter. At the same time, there are massive amounts of archeological evidence of other structures (many still standing) from that same time period around our world.

You sir, are a moron and I see no reason to honor your silly post with a retort.
The western wall is hardly a settled matter with respect to ANYTHING related to the Jews.

The temple mount is what Jews call it. The Arab world (a couple billion people) call it Haram esh-Sharif.

You wont honor my post with a retort because, really, what could you say? I simply stated facts.


You're no better than a German apologist denying the holocaust. You have no real idea of what's historically accurate and are merely posting noise to support your point of view.
 
...There was a Temple long before there was a Dome.
But not one shred of evidence that any Jewish temple existed there as the Muslim temple still stands where it has been for centuries.
In mid-August 1929, hundreds of Jewish nationalists marched to the Western Wall in Jerusalem shouting slogans such as The Wall is Ours and raising the Jewish national flag.[16] Rumours spread that Jewish youths had also attacked Arabs and had cursed Muhammad.[22][23] Following an inflammatory sermon the next day, hundreds of Muslims converged on the Western Wall, burning prayer books and injuring the beadle. The rioting soon spread to the Jewish commercial area of town[24][25] and the next day, August 17, a young Jew was stabbed to death.[26] The authorities failed to quell the violence. On Friday, August 23, inflamed by rumors that Jews were planning to attack al-Aqsa Mosque, Arabs started to attack Jews in the Old City of Jerusalem.The first murders of the day took place when two or three Arabs passing by the Jewish Quarter of Mea Shearim were killed.[27] Rumours that Jews had massacred Arabs in Jerusalem then reached Hebron by that evening.[14] Hillel Cohen frames his recent narrative of the incident in terms of the murder of the Jaffa Awan family by a Jewish police constable called Simcha Hinkis.[28]

Mere rumor is all it takes for Islamics to launch a killing spree. That's followed by "the Jooooos made us do it".
Mere rumor is all it takes for Jews to launch a killing spree. That's followed by "the Mooooslims made us do it".

Except that the Western Wall is itself the evidence.

Zionist Jews incited the violence by attempting to take the Temple Mount which is obviously Arab holy land. Prior to the zionist degenerates inciting this violence, Jews and Muslims and Christians lived in peace in Palestine for centuries. Beyond that, many Muslims protected Jews and even hid them in their homes.

/end thread

Why is it called "Temple Mount"? Because it's a Jewish holy place where both Jewish temples was located before Muslims even took control of Jerusalem in 637. So, by your implied argument, being "obviously Arab holy land" actually means less than nothing.
Dumb. Jews call it that from their religious texts which are NEVER used as an historical reference by any legitimate historian or researcher. Beyond that, there is no evidence of these temples, even the west wall is not a settled matter. At the same time, there are massive amounts of archeological evidence of other structures (many still standing) from that same time period around our world.

You sir, are a moron and I see no reason to honor your silly post with a retort.
The western wall is hardly a settled matter with respect to ANYTHING related to the Jews.

The temple mount is what Jews call it. The Arab world (a couple billion people) call it Haram esh-Sharif.

You wont honor my post with a retort because, really, what could you say? I simply stated facts.


LMAO! Good one Louie. That's why we love you here. Keep up the good work for the Israel supporters.
 
...There was a Temple long before there was a Dome.
But not one shred of evidence that any Jewish temple existed there as the Muslim temple still stands where it has been for centuries.
In mid-August 1929, hundreds of Jewish nationalists marched to the Western Wall in Jerusalem shouting slogans such as The Wall is Ours and raising the Jewish national flag.[16] Rumours spread that Jewish youths had also attacked Arabs and had cursed Muhammad.[22][23] Following an inflammatory sermon the next day, hundreds of Muslims converged on the Western Wall, burning prayer books and injuring the beadle. The rioting soon spread to the Jewish commercial area of town[24][25] and the next day, August 17, a young Jew was stabbed to death.[26] The authorities failed to quell the violence. On Friday, August 23, inflamed by rumors that Jews were planning to attack al-Aqsa Mosque, Arabs started to attack Jews in the Old City of Jerusalem.The first murders of the day took place when two or three Arabs passing by the Jewish Quarter of Mea Shearim were killed.[27] Rumours that Jews had massacred Arabs in Jerusalem then reached Hebron by that evening.[14] Hillel Cohen frames his recent narrative of the incident in terms of the murder of the Jaffa Awan family by a Jewish police constable called Simcha Hinkis.[28]

Mere rumor is all it takes for Islamics to launch a killing spree. That's followed by "the Jooooos made us do it".
Mere rumor is all it takes for Jews to launch a killing spree. That's followed by "the Mooooslims made us do it".

Except that the Western Wall is itself the evidence.

Zionist Jews incited the violence by attempting to take the Temple Mount which is obviously Arab holy land. Prior to the zionist degenerates inciting this violence, Jews and Muslims and Christians lived in peace in Palestine for centuries. Beyond that, many Muslims protected Jews and even hid them in their homes.

/end thread

Why is it called "Temple Mount"? Because it's a Jewish holy place where both Jewish temples was located before Muslims even took control of Jerusalem in 637. So, by your implied argument, being "obviously Arab holy land" actually means less than nothing.
Dumb. Jews call it that from their religious texts which are NEVER used as an historical reference by any legitimate historian or researcher. Beyond that, there is no evidence of these temples, even the west wall is not a settled matter. At the same time, there are massive amounts of archeological evidence of other structures (many still standing) from that same time period around our world.

You sir, are a moron and I see no reason to honor your silly post with a retort.
The western wall is hardly a settled matter with respect to ANYTHING related to the Jews.

The temple mount is what Jews call it. The Arab world (a couple billion people) call it Haram esh-Sharif.

You wont honor my post with a retort because, really, what could you say? I simply stated facts.


You're no better than a German apologist denying the holocaust. You have no real idea of what's historically accurate and are merely posting noise to support your point of view.
You're crazy, post your evidence of the first temple for starters.

This should be fun.

And I love how you bring up the holocaust here...

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...There was a Temple long before there was a Dome.
But not one shred of evidence that any Jewish temple existed there as the Muslim temple still stands where it has been for centuries.
Mere rumor is all it takes for Islamics to launch a killing spree. That's followed by "the Jooooos made us do it".
Mere rumor is all it takes for Jews to launch a killing spree. That's followed by "the Mooooslims made us do it".

Except that the Western Wall is itself the evidence.

Why is it called "Temple Mount"? Because it's a Jewish holy place where both Jewish temples was located before Muslims even took control of Jerusalem in 637. So, by your implied argument, being "obviously Arab holy land" actually means less than nothing.
Dumb. Jews call it that from their religious texts which are NEVER used as an historical reference by any legitimate historian or researcher. Beyond that, there is no evidence of these temples, even the west wall is not a settled matter. At the same time, there are massive amounts of archeological evidence of other structures (many still standing) from that same time period around our world.

You sir, are a moron and I see no reason to honor your silly post with a retort.
The western wall is hardly a settled matter with respect to ANYTHING related to the Jews.

The temple mount is what Jews call it. The Arab world (a couple billion people) call it Haram esh-Sharif.

You wont honor my post with a retort because, really, what could you say? I simply stated facts.


You're no better than a German apologist denying the holocaust. You have no real idea of what's historically accurate and are merely posting noise to support your point of view.
You're crazy, post your evidence of the first temple for starters.

This should be fun.

And I love how you bring up the holocaust here...

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Louie, you are so funny. Bless you for all the laughs you give us while those you support are killing us infidels all over the world.
 
But not one shred of evidence that any Jewish temple existed there as the Muslim temple still stands where it has been for centuries.
Mere rumor is all it takes for Jews to launch a killing spree. That's followed by "the Mooooslims made us do it".

Except that the Western Wall is itself the evidence.

Dumb. Jews call it that from their religious texts which are NEVER used as an historical reference by any legitimate historian or researcher. Beyond that, there is no evidence of these temples, even the west wall is not a settled matter. At the same time, there are massive amounts of archeological evidence of other structures (many still standing) from that same time period around our world.

You sir, are a moron and I see no reason to honor your silly post with a retort.
The western wall is hardly a settled matter with respect to ANYTHING related to the Jews.

The temple mount is what Jews call it. The Arab world (a couple billion people) call it Haram esh-Sharif.

You wont honor my post with a retort because, really, what could you say? I simply stated facts.


You're no better than a German apologist denying the holocaust. You have no real idea of what's historically accurate and are merely posting noise to support your point of view.
You're crazy, post your evidence of the first temple for starters.

This should be fun.

And I love how you bring up the holocaust here...

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Louie, you are so funny. Bless you for all the laughs you give us while those you support are killing us infidels all over the world.
I don't support killing in general and you know this. This is how you pretend to get out of ever responding to facts.
 
...There was a Temple long before there was a Dome.
But not one shred of evidence that any Jewish temple existed there as the Muslim temple still stands where it has been for centuries.
Mere rumor is all it takes for Islamics to launch a killing spree. That's followed by "the Jooooos made us do it".
Mere rumor is all it takes for Jews to launch a killing spree. That's followed by "the Mooooslims made us do it".

Except that the Western Wall is itself the evidence.

Why is it called "Temple Mount"? Because it's a Jewish holy place where both Jewish temples was located before Muslims even took control of Jerusalem in 637. So, by your implied argument, being "obviously Arab holy land" actually means less than nothing.
Dumb. Jews call it that from their religious texts which are NEVER used as an historical reference by any legitimate historian or researcher. Beyond that, there is no evidence of these temples, even the west wall is not a settled matter. At the same time, there are massive amounts of archeological evidence of other structures (many still standing) from that same time period around our world.

You sir, are a moron and I see no reason to honor your silly post with a retort.
The western wall is hardly a settled matter with respect to ANYTHING related to the Jews.

The temple mount is what Jews call it. The Arab world (a couple billion people) call it Haram esh-Sharif.

You wont honor my post with a retort because, really, what could you say? I simply stated facts.


You're no better than a German apologist denying the holocaust. You have no real idea of what's historically accurate and are merely posting noise to support your point of view.
You're crazy, post your evidence of the first temple for starters.

This should be fun.

And I love how you bring up the holocaust here...

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I have to admit that it's hilarious to see Louie posting the same cartoons multiple times across multiple threads and insisting he has offered facts.
 
No, physical evidence is the way to go.

What sort of physical evidence of a destroyed monument would you consider acceptable?

Textual evidence? Physical monuments left by the culture which did the destroying? Artifacts? What?
 
Don't be dumb, there would be something left of the first temple.

So your criteria of whether or not a monument existed is actual physical remains? No physical remains, it didn't exist -- even if there is other evidence?
 
So, for examples, the Colossus of Rhodes did not exist. Nor the Statue of Zeus at Olympia.
 
Dumb one, there were a small cult of them in biblical times and they were never there in any large numbers since ...

So they have been there for millennia, then. Just not very many of them.
That sounds about right.
The same goes for Christians too.
After Mohammad, the predominant religion in the Holy Land has been Islam of course, although Christians laid claim to the cradle of the Holy Faith.

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The Looting of Jerusalem by Crusaders in A.D. 1099 when all Jews and Muslims were put to the sword making the city exclusively Christian. “The slaughter was so great that our men waded in blood up to their ankles.”

Yes, despite the many invasions and pogroms over the mellenia, the Jews always maintained a presence and kept coming back. This increased in the last 700 years when the Ottomans defeated the Arabs and invited the Jews to come back to the land the Ottoman's recognized as the ancestral and religious holy land of the Jews. The Arabs have not had any control or governorship on the land for the last 700 years.

No, the Jews had no presence for centuries, by law. The Christians have maintained a constant presence since the birth of Christ. The Jews did not.
Bullshit! How many times do you have to be slapped with the truth?!


Despite the many invasions and programs, the Jews always maintained a presence and always kept coming back to their religious, spiritual, and cultural holy land. The land truly belongs to the Jews.


History of the Jews and Judaism in the Land of Israel - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Byzantine period (324–638)

Jews probably constituted the majority of the population of Palestine until the 4th-century, when Constantine converted to Christianity.

Jews lived in at least forty-three Jewish communities in Palestine: twelve towns on the coast, in the Negev, and east of the Jordan, and thirty-one villages in Galilee and in the Jordan valley. The persecuted Jews of Palestine revolted twice against their Christian rulers. In the 5th century, the Western Roman Empire collapsed leading to Christian migration into Palestine and development of a Christian majority. Jews numbered 10–15% of the population. Judaism was the only non-Christian religion tolerated, but there were bans on Jews building new places of worship, holding public office or owning slaves. There were also two Samaritan revolts in this period.[65]

In 438, The Empress Eudocia removed the ban on Jews' praying at the Temple site and the heads of the Community in Galilee issued a call "to the great and mighty people of the Jews": "Know that the end of the exile of our people has come"!

In about 450, the Jerusalem Talmud was completed.

According to Procopius, in 533 Byzantine general Belisarius took the treasures of the Jewish temple from Vandals who had taken them from Rome.

In 611, Sassanid Persia invaded the Byzantine Empire. In 613, a Jewish revolt against the Byzantine Empire joined forces with these Persian invaders to capture Jerusalem in 614. The Jews gained autonomy in Jerusalem, until in 617 when the Persians betrayed agreements and withdrew their forces from the region. With return of the Byzantines in 628, the Byzantine Emperor Heraclius promised to restore Jewish rights and received Jewish help in ousting the Persians with the aid of Jewish leader Benjamin of Tiberias.

Middle Ages (636–1517)

After the conquest, Jewish communities began to grow and flourish. Umar allowed and encouraged Jews to settle in Jerusalem. It was first time, after almost 500 years of oppressive Christian rule, that Jews were allowed to enter and worship freely in their holy city.

In the mid-8th-century, taking advantage of the warring Islamic factions in Palestine, a false messiah named Abu Isa Obadiah of Isfahan inspired and organised a group of 10,000 armed Jews who hoped to restore the Holy Land to the Jewish nation.

In 1039, part of the synagogue in Ramla was still in ruins, probably resulting from the earthquake of 1033. Jews also returned to Rafah and documents from 1015 and 1080 attest to a significant community there.

A large Jewish community existed in Ramle and smaller communities inhabited Hebron and the coastal cities of Acre, Caesarea, Jaffa, Ashkelon and Gaza.[citation needed]Al-Muqaddasi (985) wrote that "for the most part the assayers of corn, dyers, bankers, and tanners are Jews." Under the Islamic rule, the rights of Jews and Christians were curtailed and residence was permitted upon payment of the special tax.

Between the 7th and 11th centuries, Masoretes (Jewish scribes) in the Galilee and Jerusalem were active in compiling a system of pronunciation and grammatical guides of the Hebrew language. They authorised the division of the Jewish Tanakh, known as the Masoretic Text, which is regarded as authoritative till today.

Ottoman rule (1517–1917)

The 16th-century nevertheless saw a resurgence of Jewish life in Palestine. Palestinian rabbis were instrumental producing a universally accepted manual of Jewish law and some of the most beautiful liturgical poems. Much of this activity occurred at Safed which had become a spiritual centre, a haven for mystics. Joseph Karo's comprehensive guide to Jewish law, the Shulchan Aruch, was considered so authoritative that the variant customs of German-Polish Jewry were merely added as supplement glosses. Some of the most celebrated hymns were written at in Safed by poets such as Israel Najara andSolomon Alkabetz. The town was also a centre of Jewish mysticism, notable kabbalists included Moses Cordovero and the German-born Naphtali Hertz ben Jacob Elhanan. A new method of understanding the kabbalah was developed by Palestinian mystic Isaac Luria, and espoused by his student Chaim Vital. In Safed, the Jews developed a number of branches of trade, especially in grain, spices, textiles and dyeing. In 1577, a Hebrew printing press was established in Safed. The 8,000 or 10,000 Jews in Safed in 1555 grew to 20,000 or 30,000 by the end of the century.

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In around 1563, Joseph Nasi secured permission from Sultan Selim II to acquire Tiberias and seven surrounding villages to create a Jewish city-state. He hoped that large numbers of Jewish refugees and Marranos would settle there, free from fear and oppression; indeed, the persecuted Jews of Cori, Italy, numbering about 200 souls, decided to emigrate to Tiberias.Nasi had the walls of the town rebuilt by 1564 and attempted to turn it into a self-sufficient textile manufacturing center by planting mulberry trees for the cultivation of silk. Nevertheless, a number of factors during the following years contributed to the plan's ultimate failure. Nasi's aunt, Doña Gracia Mendes Nasi supported ayeshiva in the town for many years until her death in 1569.

In 1567, a Yemenite scholar and Rabbi, Zechariah Dhahiri, visited Safed and wrote of his experiences in a book entitled Sefer Ha-Musar. His vivid descriptions of the town Safed and of Rabbi Joseph Karo’s yeshiva are of primary importance to historians, seeing that they are a first-hand account of these places, and the only extant account which describes the yeshiva of the great Sephardic Rabbi, Joseph Karo.[127]

In 1576, the Jewish community of Safed faced an expulsion order: 1,000 prosperous families were to be deported to Cyprus, "for the good of the said island", with another 500 the following year.[128] The order was later rescinded due to the realisation of the financial gains of Jewish rental income.[129] In 1586, the Jews of Istanbul agreed to build a fortified khan to provide a refuge for Safed's Jews against "night bandits and armed thieves."[128]

In 1569, the Radbaz moved to Jerusalem, but soon moved to Safed to escape the high taxes imposed on Jews by the authorities.

In 1610, the Yochanan ben Zakai Synagogue in Jerusalem was completed.[130] It became the main synagogue of the Sephardic Jews, the place where their chief rabbi was invested. The adjacent study hall which had been added by 1625 later became the Synagogue of Elijah the Prophet.[130]


Installation of the Chacham Bashi at the Ben Zakai Synagogue, 1893. According to legend, the synagogue stands on the site of the study hall of 1st-century sage, RabbanYochanan ben Zakai. The current building was constructed in 1610.



The Near East earthquake of 1759 destroys much of Safed killing 2000 people with 190 Jews among the dead, and also destroys Tiberias.

The disciples of the Vilna Gaon settled in the land of Israel almost a decade after the arrival of two of his pupils, R. Hayim of Vilna and R. Israel ben Samuel of Shklov. In all there were three groups of the Gaon's students which emigrated to the land of Israel. They formed the basis of the Ashkenazi communities of Jerusalem and Safed, setting up what was known as the Kollel Perushim. Their arrival encouraged an Ashkenazi revival in Jerusalem, whose Jewish community until this time was mostly Sephardi. Many of the descendants of the disciples became leading figures in modern Israeli society. The Gaon himself also set forth with his pupils to the Land, but for an unknown reason he turned back and returned to Vilna where he died soon after.

During the Peasants' Revolt under Muhammad Ali of Egypt's occupation, Jews were targeted in the 1834 looting of Safed and the 1834 Hebron massacre. By 1844,some sources report that Jews had become the largest population group in Jerusalem and by 1890 an absolute majority in the city.
 
Post your evidence of the first temple for starters. I asked for that several posts ago.

But this is why I need to know your criteria. There is no point in posting evidence if you won't accept it. Define your criteria and I will post my evidence.
 
Yes, despite the many invasions and pogroms over the mellenia, the Jews always maintained a presence and kept coming back. This increased in the last 700 years when the Ottomans defeated the Arabs and invited the Jews to come back to the land the Ottoman's recognized as the ancestral and religious holy land of the Jews. The Arabs have not had any control or governorship on the land for the last 700 years.

Yes, the Jews are indigenous to the land. Not any Muslims, including those who call themselves Palestinians.
You have been told often enough that the European Jews who migrated to Palestine to set-up their own country 69 years ago were not indigenous to the Holy Land as the mainly Arab Palestinians are. Your myth is nonsense.

Is that right? So tell us how many Muslim Palestinians were in the land in antiquity when the Jews were?

Poor Louie. Just can't think with that God given piece of wood in his head.

Hey Louie, tell us, is the city of VILNA Russian, Polish or Lithuanian? Get it yet? Once again, --- all land belongs to those who rule it at any given period of time.


The European Jews will go the way of the European colonists in Rhodesia, Algeria etc. I don't think the non-Jews of Palestine will be as generous as the non-whites of South Africa.
The Arab Palestinian IslamoNazis will go the way of other failed ideological movements based on hatred and racism. The millions of Jews are now in a strong, prosperous Israel in their ancestral, religious and cultural homeland and aren't going anywhere.
 
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