Best proof yet about Trump's collusion with Russia

[Lakhota]

The "deal" must have been fairly simple......

Russia tells Trump to soften the GOP's platform toward Russia in NOT arming the Ukraine to ward off Putin's aggression.....

And

Putin promises to bash Clinton through Wikileaks to help Trump gain the WH.....

Where before its was only speculation as to WHY the GOP would want to "befriend" the aggressive Putin and betray the Ukraine, proof is slowly emerging about the treasonous deals that either Trump or his closest cronies worked out with the Kremlin.

Trump Campaign Changed Ukraine Platform, Lied About It
Top Trump aide Paul Manafort swore that the campaign had nothing to do with a radical change in the official Republican Party position on Ukraine. He was lying.

Eric Brakey, a Maine delegate who identifies as a non-interventionist, said he supported the change, which was pushed in part by the Trump campaign.
“Some staff from the Trump campaign came in and… came back with some language that softened the platform,” Brakey told The Daily Beast. “They didn’t intervene in the platform in most cases. But in that case they had some wisdom to say that maybe we don’t want to be calling… for very, very clear aggressive acts of war against Russia.”

Trump Campaign Changed Ukraine Platform, Lied About It

Definition of treason, anyone????

Rachel Maddow has been doing an excellent job of connecting all the Trump/Russia dots. She had a very informative segment on the Republican platform change to not arm Ukraine to defend against Russia - specifically requested by Trump himself. Like Rachel said - support the free press because they seem to be the only ones doing the investigative reporting. I agree.

 

[nat4900]

Again... Trump forced Obama? Really?

Listen douche bag....No ONE is saying that "Trump forced Obama" to do anything.....The orange charlatan was too busy looking for Obama's BC......

Putin wanted Crimea and goy it......Putin wants ALL of the Ukraine and got himself a puppet in the WH this past Nov. to get the rest of that country.

 

[nat4900]

Why is a Hungarian interfering in US elections?

Well, you MUST be correct.....Jsut look at the size of your fonts...and they're bold too......LOL

(what an asshole.....)

 

[JBond]

Again... Trump forced Obama? Really?

What the fuck are you talking about????

Grow up and learn how to write something that makes sense.

So your position is Pro-Russia. Got it. You need to be investigated. Another dem in the pocket of the big bad Russians. It was a peaceful takeover according to Jake.

 

[tinydancer]

Oh and btw no one can seem to come up with pictures for the "invasions". No pictures. In this day and age.

You want pictures, moron?

In pictures: Ukrainian security forces fight Pro-Russian rebels in Donetsk

Here's who you are arming in the Ukraine. McCain loves them. Told you they were nazis. This is why Crimea left immediately. This is who the rebels are fighting. The west is nazis. Who hate all ethnic Russians in the Ukraine.


"Ukraine crisis: the neo-Nazi brigade fighting pro-Russian separatists
Kiev throws paramilitaries – some openly neo-Nazi - into the front of the battle with rebels

Phantom, 23, a fighter in the Azov battalion, outside its HQ in the Ukrainian seaside town of Urzuf


The Azov battalion uses the neo-Nazi Wolfsangel (Wolf''s Hook) symbol on its banner (Tom Parfitt)

 

[oreo]

The "deal" must have been fairly simple......

Russia tells Trump to soften the GOP's platform toward Russia in NOT arming the Ukraine to ward off Putin's aggression.....

And

Putin promises to bash Clinton through Wikileaks to help Trump gain the WH.....

Where before its was only speculation as to WHY the GOP would want to "befriend" the aggressive Putin and betray the Ukraine, proof is slowly emerging about the treasonous deals that either Trump or his closest cronies worked out with the Kremlin.

Trump Campaign Changed Ukraine Platform, Lied About It
Top Trump aide Paul Manafort swore that the campaign had nothing to do with a radical change in the official Republican Party position on Ukraine. He was lying.

Eric Brakey, a Maine delegate who identifies as a non-interventionist, said he supported the change, which was pushed in part by the Trump campaign.
“Some staff from the Trump campaign came in and… came back with some language that softened the platform,” Brakey told The Daily Beast. “They didn’t intervene in the platform in most cases. But in that case they had some wisdom to say that maybe we don’t want to be calling… for very, very clear aggressive acts of war against Russia.”

Trump Campaign Changed Ukraine Platform, Lied About It

Definition of treason, anyone????

This is also confirmed by CNN when one of Trump's surrogates (Gordon) admitted to wanting to change the Republican platform to read exactly that. That we would NOT arm the Ukrainians against PRO-Russian separatists. In fact, it's actually in the 2016 Republican platform because of Trump and Gordon. This was done during the Republican National convention in Cleveland, and Gordon did in fact admit meeting with the Russian Ambassador who was also in Cleveland during the RNC convention.

Gordon had advocated for language in the GOP platform that the Ukrainians not be armed in their battle against pro-Russian separatists, an effort was ultimately successful. But Gordon says he was simply advocating what Trump himself had expressed -- that he did not wish to see major war break out over the situation in Ukraine.

More Trump advisers disclose meeting with Russia's ambassador - CNNPolitics.com

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So Trump didnt call for war? disappointing isn't it? So softening language a bit is considered Radical change? Proof of Bashing Clinton?

First, when Trump wants to help Putin invade both the Crimea and eastern Ukraine, even a right wing moron should ask WHY.....?

....and, second, to betray a friend of NATO as the Ukraine is, boils down to collusion with the Kremlin.

Crimea begged for help from Mother Russia. The nazis in Kiev were going to strip away their autonomy and ban all languages other than Ukrainian. And they held a referendum.

We're talking ethnic Russians in both Crimea and Eastern Ukraine. It was the west that pulled off the coup with US and EU support.

Oh and btw no one can seem to come up with pictures for the "invasions". No pictures. In this day and age.

Commies whining about Nazis....hilarious!!!

Crimeans and eastern Ukrainians aren't commies. BUT the west loves their Nazis. You don't know the history of western Ukraine? Like the time they commited genocide in Poland in WWII.

Or had a death camp that was nicknamed the Holocaust of Bullets. Or that their hero Stepan Bandera fought with the Nazis.

Bandera is even buried in Germany and the west still considers him a hero.

Hey, if you say Nazi enough, can Putin invade all of Eastern Europe? DERP!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Oh and btw no one can seem to come up with pictures for the "invasions". No pictures. In this day and age.

You want pictures, moron?

In pictures: Ukrainian security forces fight Pro-Russian rebels in Donetsk

That's not Russia invading asshole. These rebels only want to secede.

All the Russians should move out of Ukraine and into Russia.
It's not like there isn't enough room, eh comrade?

 

[OKTexas]

So the 17 intel agencies saying there was zero evidence of collusion wasn't good enough, so now they're digging up some obscure convention delegate to come up with a new and improved conspiracy theory? ROFLMFAO

I really don't give a fuck WHAT you believe....trump lap dogs will go down believing that the poor orange clown is "victim" of conspiracies....and I don't care......

Facts will slowly emerge

(BTW, Did those 17 intel agencies state that Russia influenced this election? ....YES or NO???)

And the more facts that come out the more you regressives look like fools.

Well they claim they did with no evidence to suggest it other than a third party security company who the DNC paid. NO FEDERAL AGENCY FORENSICALLY EXAMINED THE DNC SERVERS, I don't think I buy the DNCs version for obvious reasons. It's not like they're beyond dirty tricks.

 

[tinydancer]

So Trump didnt call for war? disappointing isn't it? So softening language a bit is considered Radical change? Proof of Bashing Clinton?

First, when Trump wants to help Putin invade both the Crimea and eastern Ukraine, even a right wing moron should ask WHY.....?

....and, second, to betray a friend of NATO as the Ukraine is, boils down to collusion with the Kremlin.

Crimea begged for help from Mother Russia. The nazis in Kiev were going to strip away their autonomy and ban all languages other than Ukrainian. And they held a referendum.

We're talking ethnic Russians in both Crimea and Eastern Ukraine. It was the west that pulled off the coup with US and EU support.

Oh and btw no one can seem to come up with pictures for the "invasions". No pictures. In this day and age.

Commies whining about Nazis....hilarious!!!

Crimeans and eastern Ukrainians aren't commies. BUT the west loves their Nazis. You don't know the history of western Ukraine? Like the time they commited genocide in Poland in WWII.

Or had a death camp that was nicknamed the Holocaust of Bullets. Or that their hero Stepan Bandera fought with the Nazis.

Bandera is even buried in Germany and the west still considers him a hero.

Hey, if you say Nazi enough, can Putin invade all of Eastern Europe? DERP!

Give me a break. Putin hasn't invaded jack shit.

On the other hand with Obama. Let's see he installed the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, took out Gaddafi and left Libya to terrorists, assisted the coup in Ukraine and overthrew a duly elected President and his party, then decided he had to help Saudi Arabia and Qatar overthrow Assad and gave the world ISIS.

Don't talk to me about Putin being the bad monster when Obama with the help of his hawks on the R side of the aisle have unleashed living hell in the ME.

 

[Contumacious]

Why is a Hungarian interfering in US elections?

Well, you MUST be correct.....Jsut look at the size of your fonts...and they're bold too......LOL

(what an asshole.....)

Hillary Clinton embraces George Soros’ ‘radical’ vision of open-border world

.Why was Soros involved with Hillary's campaign?

Why was Podesta talking to a Hungarian?


Why is a Hungarian interfering in US elections?


NO FUCKING STONEWALLING.


.

 

[GWV5903]

The "deal" must have been fairly simple......

Russia tells Trump to soften the GOP's platform toward Russia in NOT arming the Ukraine to ward off Putin's aggression.....

And

Putin promises to bash Clinton through Wikileaks to help Trump gain the WH.....

Where before its was only speculation as to WHY the GOP would want to "befriend" the aggressive Putin and betray the Ukraine, proof is slowly emerging about the treasonous deals that either Trump or his closest cronies worked out with the Kremlin.

Trump Campaign Changed Ukraine Platform, Lied About It
Top Trump aide Paul Manafort swore that the campaign had nothing to do with a radical change in the official Republican Party position on Ukraine. He was lying.

Eric Brakey, a Maine delegate who identifies as a non-interventionist, said he supported the change, which was pushed in part by the Trump campaign.
“Some staff from the Trump campaign came in and… came back with some language that softened the platform,” Brakey told The Daily Beast. “They didn’t intervene in the platform in most cases. But in that case they had some wisdom to say that maybe we don’t want to be calling… for very, very clear aggressive acts of war against Russia.”

Trump Campaign Changed Ukraine Platform, Lied About It

Definition of treason, anyone????

You lost, go back to your corner...

In another 6 months they are going to give you another padded room so you can't hurt yourself or anyone else....

 

[Snouter]

It is scary how the dems continue to be regurgitate fake news. The fact it is the "Russia Hacked the Election" lie has been proven false long ago and anyone who believes it now is very stupid.

Rachel Maddow has been doing an excellent job of connecting all the Trump/Russia dots. She had a very informative segment on the Republican platform change to not arm Ukraine to defend against Russia - specifically requested by Trump himself.

Rachel "Blinky" Maddow is fake news. Here are the facts: The Donald was elected because he was not a neocon! The American people reject the neocon agenda Get over it already!

 

[tinydancer]

Trump won't arm neo nazis. That's not being Putin's lap dog.

"Ukraine’s government is unrepentant about using the neo-Nazis.

“The most important thing is their spirit and their desire to make Ukraine free and independent,” said Anton Gerashchenko, an adviser to Arsen Avakov, the interior minister. “A person who takes a weapon in his hands and goes to defend his motherland is a hero. And his political views are his own affair.”

Mark Galeotti, an expert on Russian and Ukrainian security affairs at New York University, fears battalions like Azov are becoming “magnets to attract violent fringe elements from across Ukraine and beyond”. “The danger is that this is part of the building up of a toxic legacy for when the war ends,” he said."


Ukraine crisis: the neo-Nazi brigade fighting pro-Russian separatists

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

First, when Trump wants to help Putin invade both the Crimea and eastern Ukraine, even a right wing moron should ask WHY.....?

....and, second, to betray a friend of NATO as the Ukraine is, boils down to collusion with the Kremlin.

Crimea begged for help from Mother Russia. The nazis in Kiev were going to strip away their autonomy and ban all languages other than Ukrainian. And they held a referendum.

We're talking ethnic Russians in both Crimea and Eastern Ukraine. It was the west that pulled off the coup with US and EU support.

Oh and btw no one can seem to come up with pictures for the "invasions". No pictures. In this day and age.

Commies whining about Nazis....hilarious!!!

Crimeans and eastern Ukrainians aren't commies. BUT the west loves their Nazis. You don't know the history of western Ukraine? Like the time they commited genocide in Poland in WWII.

Or had a death camp that was nicknamed the Holocaust of Bullets. Or that their hero Stepan Bandera fought with the Nazis.

Bandera is even buried in Germany and the west still considers him a hero.

Hey, if you say Nazi enough, can Putin invade all of Eastern Europe? DERP!

Give me a break. Putin hasn't invaded jack shit.

On the other hand with Obama. Let's see he installed the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, took out Gaddafi and left Libya to terrorists, assisted the coup in Ukraine and overthrew a duly elected President and his party, then decided he had to help Saudi Arabia and Qatar overthrow Assad and gave the world ISIS.

Don't talk to me about Putin being the bad monster when Obama with the help of his hawks on the R side of the aisle have unleashed living hell in the ME.

Give me a break. Putin hasn't invaded jack shit.

Except he admitted it.

Don't talk to me about Putin being the bad monster when Obama

Oh, Obama was an incompetent asshole, so we have to let Putin invade all his neighbors.

DERP!

 

[Lakhota]

Why is a Hungarian interfering in US elections?

Well, you MUST be correct.....Jsut look at the size of your fonts...and they're bold too......LOL

(what an asshole.....)

I agree! It's hilarious to watch some of these clowns use LARGE BOLD FONTS to argue their points. That's usually a clear sign of losing the debate.

 

[Lakhota]

It is scary how the dems continue to be regurgitate fake news. The fact it is the "Russia Hacked the Election" lie has been proven false long ago and anyone who believes it now is very stupid.

Rachel Maddow has been doing an excellent job of connecting all the Trump/Russia dots. She had a very informative segment on the Republican platform change to not arm Ukraine to defend against Russia - specifically requested by Trump himself.

Rachel "Blinky" Maddow is fake news. Here are the facts: The Donald was elected because he was not a neocon! The American people reject the neocon agenda Get over it already!

The election was rigged - but Hillary still got 3 million more votes.

 

[GWV5903]

The election was rigged

Typical answer from a loser...

When the Supreme Court leans to the Right, what are you going to do then? It's amazing how brain damaged your kind is, the silent and powerful spoke and you still can't listen...

but Hillary still got 3 million more votes.

So what, the Electoral College didn't care...

And you wonder why you lost...

 

[tinydancer]

Crimea begged for help from Mother Russia. The nazis in Kiev were going to strip away their autonomy and ban all languages other than Ukrainian. And they held a referendum.

We're talking ethnic Russians in both Crimea and Eastern Ukraine. It was the west that pulled off the coup with US and EU support.

Oh and btw no one can seem to come up with pictures for the "invasions". No pictures. In this day and age.

Commies whining about Nazis....hilarious!!!

Crimeans and eastern Ukrainians aren't commies. BUT the west loves their Nazis. You don't know the history of western Ukraine? Like the time they commited genocide in Poland in WWII.

Or had a death camp that was nicknamed the Holocaust of Bullets. Or that their hero Stepan Bandera fought with the Nazis.

Bandera is even buried in Germany and the west still considers him a hero.

Hey, if you say Nazi enough, can Putin invade all of Eastern Europe? DERP!

Give me a break. Putin hasn't invaded jack shit.

On the other hand with Obama. Let's see he installed the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, took out Gaddafi and left Libya to terrorists, assisted the coup in Ukraine and overthrew a duly elected President and his party, then decided he had to help Saudi Arabia and Qatar overthrow Assad and gave the world ISIS.

Don't talk to me about Putin being the bad monster when Obama with the help of his hawks on the R side of the aisle have unleashed living hell in the ME.

Give me a break. Putin hasn't invaded jack shit.

Except he admitted it.

Don't talk to me about Putin being the bad monster when Obama

Oh, Obama was an incompetent asshole, so we have to let Putin invade all his neighbors.

DERP!

You really believe in this Russia is the boogey man shit don't you? One man died. Putin does not want the rest of the Ukraine. He is leaving them to croak on their own. He only wanted Crimea and they wanted Russia. As far as the eastern rebels, he's helping like Obama helped so called rebels in Syria. Pity Obama's rebels turned out to be terrorists but that's a whole different thread.

"The council took a vote: Only Turchynov was in favor of declaring a state of war. And that was that: Russia held a spurious referendum in Crimea and took it over. The Ukrainian government gave up without a fight because it was scared of losing the entire country.

It is inconceivable that Putin didn’t know how weak Ukraine was. He had access to intelligence from the neighboring country. He could even talk directly to the deposed president, Viktor Yanukovych, who had just fled to Russia. Nothing prevented a Russian invasion.

Moreover, Putin didn’t need an additional pretext to step in: Russia had already declared the overthrow of Yanukovych an “anti-constitutional coup” — which, technically, it was, though the ex-president’s oppressive regime had little regard for the constitution.

It could have gotten Yanukovych to sign the kind of request for assistance that serves as a basis for Russia’s current military action in Syria.

Yet Putin didn’t do any of that. He didn’t want to invade the rest of Ukraine and deal with the momentous international consequences

He only wanted Crimea, the Russian navy base populated mainly by pro-Moscow Russian speakers. Yatsenyuk had no illusions about Crimeans when he talked about the possibility of an “ethnic conflict.”

Later, when Russia backed a separatist uprising in eastern Ukraine — providing military advisers, weapons and, eventually, troops — Putin was just as careful to avoid a full-scale invasion, even though he could have crushed the Ukrainian military.

In fact, even though Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko has boasted that his military is now “the strongest in Europe,” Russia still has an overwhelming advantage in numbers, equipment and training.

Throughout the conflict, Putin has never been constrained by any threat of Ukrainian pushback. He doesn’t want overt control of this or any neighbouring country, just political and economic influence.

In Ukraine, he wants to cripple the country enough that the West will be wary of taking it in, integrating it into European institutions. So far, that plan is working: Ukraine remains destitute and riven by internal strife. "

Leonid Bershidsky: Why Putin stopped at Crimea

 

[tinydancer]

It is scary how the dems continue to be regurgitate fake news. The fact it is the "Russia Hacked the Election" lie has been proven false long ago and anyone who believes it now is very stupid.

Rachel Maddow has been doing an excellent job of connecting all the Trump/Russia dots. She had a very informative segment on the Republican platform change to not arm Ukraine to defend against Russia - specifically requested by Trump himself.

Rachel "Blinky" Maddow is fake news. Here are the facts: The Donald was elected because he was not a neocon! The American people reject the neocon agenda Get over it already!

The election was rigged - but Hillary still got 3 million more votes.

How was it rigged?