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The "deal" must have been fairly simple......
Russia tells Trump to soften the GOP's platform toward Russia in NOT arming the Ukraine to ward off Putin's aggression.....
And
Putin promises to bash Clinton through Wikileaks to help Trump gain the WH.....
Where before its was only speculation as to WHY the GOP would want to "befriend" the aggressive Putin and betray the Ukraine, proof is slowly emerging about the treasonous deals that either Trump or his closest cronies worked out with the Kremlin.
Trump Campaign Changed Ukraine Platform, Lied About It
Top Trump aide Paul Manafort swore that the campaign had nothing to do with a radical change in the official Republican Party position on Ukraine. He was lying.
Eric Brakey, a Maine delegate who identifies as a non-interventionist, said he supported the change, which was pushed in part by the Trump campaign.
“Some staff from the Trump campaign came in and… came back with some language that softened the platform,” Brakey told The Daily Beast. “They didn’t intervene in the platform in most cases. But in that case they had some wisdom to say that maybe we don’t want to be calling… for very, very clear aggressive acts of war against Russia.”
Trump Campaign Changed Ukraine Platform, Lied About It
Definition of treason, anyone????
Gee, look who is still pushing for war against Russia over the Ukraine.....progressives.
We're not going to war over the Ukraine no matter how much Soros wants us to, get over it.
No one has even mentioned war except you dopes. Reagan was tough with Russia and was canonized for it. Now you're just corrupt apologists.
Just us "dupes"? How about what George Soros, one of the biggest donors to liberals in the US and EU has to say on the matter?
Just us "dupes"? How about what George Soros, one of the biggest donors to liberals in the US and EU has to say on the matter?
Commies whining about Nazis....hilarious!!!
Crimeans and eastern Ukrainians aren't commies. BUT the west loves their Nazis. You don't know the history of western Ukraine? Like the time they commited genocide in Poland in WWII.
Or had a death camp that was nicknamed the Holocaust of Bullets. Or that their hero Stepan Bandera fought with the Nazis.
Bandera is even buried in Germany and the west still considers him a hero.
Hey, if you say Nazi enough, can Putin invade all of Eastern Europe? DERP!
Give me a break. Putin hasn't invaded jack shit.
On the other hand with Obama. Let's see he installed the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, took out Gaddafi and left Libya to terrorists, assisted the coup in Ukraine and overthrew a duly elected President and his party, then decided he had to help Saudi Arabia and Qatar overthrow Assad and gave the world ISIS.
Don't talk to me about Putin being the bad monster when Obama with the help of his hawks on the R side of the aisle have unleashed living hell in the ME.
Give me a break. Putin hasn't invaded jack shit.
Except he admitted it.
Don't talk to me about Putin being the bad monster when Obama
Oh, Obama was an incompetent asshole, so we have to let Putin invade all his neighbors.
DERP!
You really believe in this Russia is the boogey man shit don't you? One man died. Putin does not want the rest of the Ukraine. He is leaving them to croak on their own. He only wanted Crimea and they wanted Russia. As far as the eastern rebels, he's helping like Obama helped so called rebels in Syria. Pity Obama's rebels turned out to be terrorists but that's a whole different thread.
"The council took a vote: Only Turchynov was in favor of declaring a state of war. And that was that: Russia held a spurious referendum in Crimea and took it over. The Ukrainian government gave up without a fight because it was scared of losing the entire country.
It is inconceivable that Putin didn’t know how weak Ukraine was. He had access to intelligence from the neighboring country. He could even talk directly to the deposed president, Viktor Yanukovych, who had just fled to Russia. Nothing prevented a Russian invasion.
Moreover, Putin didn’t need an additional pretext to step in: Russia had already declared the overthrow of Yanukovych an “anti-constitutional coup” — which, technically, it was, though the ex-president’s oppressive regime had little regard for the constitution.
It could have gotten Yanukovych to sign the kind of request for assistance that serves as a basis for Russia’s current military action in Syria.
Yet Putin didn’t do any of that. He didn’t want to invade the rest of Ukraine and deal with the momentous international consequences
He only wanted Crimea, the Russian navy base populated mainly by pro-Moscow Russian speakers. Yatsenyuk had no illusions about Crimeans when he talked about the possibility of an “ethnic conflict.”
Later, when Russia backed a separatist uprising in eastern Ukraine — providing military advisers, weapons and, eventually, troops — Putin was just as careful to avoid a full-scale invasion, even though he could have crushed the Ukrainian military.
In fact, even though Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko has boasted that his military is now “the strongest in Europe,” Russia still has an overwhelming advantage in numbers, equipment and training.
Throughout the conflict, Putin has never been constrained by any threat of Ukrainian pushback. He doesn’t want overt control of this or any neighbouring country, just political and economic influence.
In Ukraine, he wants to cripple the country enough that the West will be wary of taking it in, integrating it into European institutions. So far, that plan is working: Ukraine remains destitute and riven by internal strife. "
Leonid Bershidsky: Why Putin stopped at Crimea
Crimeans and eastern Ukrainians aren't commies. BUT the west loves their Nazis. You don't know the history of western Ukraine? Like the time they commited genocide in Poland in WWII.
Or had a death camp that was nicknamed the Holocaust of Bullets. Or that their hero Stepan Bandera fought with the Nazis.
Bandera is even buried in Germany and the west still considers him a hero.
Hey, if you say Nazi enough, can Putin invade all of Eastern Europe? DERP!
Give me a break. Putin hasn't invaded jack shit.
On the other hand with Obama. Let's see he installed the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, took out Gaddafi and left Libya to terrorists, assisted the coup in Ukraine and overthrew a duly elected President and his party, then decided he had to help Saudi Arabia and Qatar overthrow Assad and gave the world ISIS.
Don't talk to me about Putin being the bad monster when Obama with the help of his hawks on the R side of the aisle have unleashed living hell in the ME.
Give me a break. Putin hasn't invaded jack shit.
Except he admitted it.
Don't talk to me about Putin being the bad monster when Obama
Oh, Obama was an incompetent asshole, so we have to let Putin invade all his neighbors.
DERP!
You really believe in this Russia is the boogey man shit don't you? One man died. Putin does not want the rest of the Ukraine. He is leaving them to croak on their own. He only wanted Crimea and they wanted Russia. As far as the eastern rebels, he's helping like Obama helped so called rebels in Syria. Pity Obama's rebels turned out to be terrorists but that's a whole different thread.
"The council took a vote: Only Turchynov was in favor of declaring a state of war. And that was that: Russia held a spurious referendum in Crimea and took it over. The Ukrainian government gave up without a fight because it was scared of losing the entire country.
It is inconceivable that Putin didn’t know how weak Ukraine was. He had access to intelligence from the neighboring country. He could even talk directly to the deposed president, Viktor Yanukovych, who had just fled to Russia. Nothing prevented a Russian invasion.
Moreover, Putin didn’t need an additional pretext to step in: Russia had already declared the overthrow of Yanukovych an “anti-constitutional coup” — which, technically, it was, though the ex-president’s oppressive regime had little regard for the constitution.
It could have gotten Yanukovych to sign the kind of request for assistance that serves as a basis for Russia’s current military action in Syria.
Yet Putin didn’t do any of that. He didn’t want to invade the rest of Ukraine and deal with the momentous international consequences
He only wanted Crimea, the Russian navy base populated mainly by pro-Moscow Russian speakers. Yatsenyuk had no illusions about Crimeans when he talked about the possibility of an “ethnic conflict.”
Later, when Russia backed a separatist uprising in eastern Ukraine — providing military advisers, weapons and, eventually, troops — Putin was just as careful to avoid a full-scale invasion, even though he could have crushed the Ukrainian military.
In fact, even though Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko has boasted that his military is now “the strongest in Europe,” Russia still has an overwhelming advantage in numbers, equipment and training.
Throughout the conflict, Putin has never been constrained by any threat of Ukrainian pushback. He doesn’t want overt control of this or any neighbouring country, just political and economic influence.
In Ukraine, he wants to cripple the country enough that the West will be wary of taking it in, integrating it into European institutions. So far, that plan is working: Ukraine remains destitute and riven by internal strife. "
Leonid Bershidsky: Why Putin stopped at Crimea
You really believe in this Russia is the boogey man shit don't you?
No captive nations trapped behind the Iron Curtain for decades after WWII?
Were millions intentionally starved by Stalin in Ukraine in the 30s?
Hey, if you say Nazi enough, can Putin invade all of Eastern Europe? DERP!
Give me a break. Putin hasn't invaded jack shit.
On the other hand with Obama. Let's see he installed the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, took out Gaddafi and left Libya to terrorists, assisted the coup in Ukraine and overthrew a duly elected President and his party, then decided he had to help Saudi Arabia and Qatar overthrow Assad and gave the world ISIS.
Don't talk to me about Putin being the bad monster when Obama with the help of his hawks on the R side of the aisle have unleashed living hell in the ME.
Give me a break. Putin hasn't invaded jack shit.
Except he admitted it.
Don't talk to me about Putin being the bad monster when Obama
Oh, Obama was an incompetent asshole, so we have to let Putin invade all his neighbors.
DERP!
You really believe in this Russia is the boogey man shit don't you? One man died. Putin does not want the rest of the Ukraine. He is leaving them to croak on their own. He only wanted Crimea and they wanted Russia. As far as the eastern rebels, he's helping like Obama helped so called rebels in Syria. Pity Obama's rebels turned out to be terrorists but that's a whole different thread.
"The council took a vote: Only Turchynov was in favor of declaring a state of war. And that was that: Russia held a spurious referendum in Crimea and took it over. The Ukrainian government gave up without a fight because it was scared of losing the entire country.
It is inconceivable that Putin didn’t know how weak Ukraine was. He had access to intelligence from the neighboring country. He could even talk directly to the deposed president, Viktor Yanukovych, who had just fled to Russia. Nothing prevented a Russian invasion.
Moreover, Putin didn’t need an additional pretext to step in: Russia had already declared the overthrow of Yanukovych an “anti-constitutional coup” — which, technically, it was, though the ex-president’s oppressive regime had little regard for the constitution.
It could have gotten Yanukovych to sign the kind of request for assistance that serves as a basis for Russia’s current military action in Syria.
Yet Putin didn’t do any of that. He didn’t want to invade the rest of Ukraine and deal with the momentous international consequences
He only wanted Crimea, the Russian navy base populated mainly by pro-Moscow Russian speakers. Yatsenyuk had no illusions about Crimeans when he talked about the possibility of an “ethnic conflict.”
Later, when Russia backed a separatist uprising in eastern Ukraine — providing military advisers, weapons and, eventually, troops — Putin was just as careful to avoid a full-scale invasion, even though he could have crushed the Ukrainian military.
In fact, even though Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko has boasted that his military is now “the strongest in Europe,” Russia still has an overwhelming advantage in numbers, equipment and training.
Throughout the conflict, Putin has never been constrained by any threat of Ukrainian pushback. He doesn’t want overt control of this or any neighbouring country, just political and economic influence.
In Ukraine, he wants to cripple the country enough that the West will be wary of taking it in, integrating it into European institutions. So far, that plan is working: Ukraine remains destitute and riven by internal strife. "
Leonid Bershidsky: Why Putin stopped at Crimea
You really believe in this Russia is the boogey man shit don't you?
No captive nations trapped behind the Iron Curtain for decades after WWII?
Were millions intentionally starved by Stalin in Ukraine in the 30s?
I'm third generation Ukrainian on my mother's side. I know my history intimately when it comes to the Holomodor. That was the USSR.
The Russia of today is as different to the USSR as America is different from her slave holding days.
That's just a fact. Crimea was given to the Ukraine by Kruschev. After the USSR disolved Crimeans stayed with the Ukraine under the condition that they would have full autonomy. After the western backed coup in Kiev, they were not only going to be stripped of their autonomy but become second class citizens because of their ethnic Russian backgrounds. The Russian language would be banned along with several others.
Crimeans moved quickly to ask Moscow to protect them and Putin did so. The poor souls in the Donbass region sadly did not move swiftly enough. So Kiev has sent her neo nazis to fight the rebels.
We would be insane to try to pull the same shit in the Ukraine as we have done in other nations. Because with the Ukraine on his doorstep, Putin will have none of it.
McCain in particular seems intent on starting WWIII. It's bad enough witnessing what has already occured in the Ukraine since the coup, but it is positively chilling to think of what would happen if Trump listened to the war hawks.
Nobody is buying the fake "Russian Bear" news anymore. It's FAKE NEWS.
Place your head right back up your ass......."defending" the orange clown when faced by constant proof of his Russian collusion, is the only recourse left for right wing morons....and you're certainly one of these morons.
What's really useless is you voting for chump in 2020 he won't be on the ticketThe "deal" must have been fairly simple......
Russia tells Trump to soften the GOP's platform toward Russia in NOT arming the Ukraine to ward off Putin's aggression.....
And
Putin promises to bash Clinton through Wikileaks to help Trump gain the WH.....
Where before its was only speculation as to WHY the GOP would want to "befriend" the aggressive Putin and betray the Ukraine, proof is slowly emerging about the treasonous deals that either Trump or his closest cronies worked out with the Kremlin.
Trump Campaign Changed Ukraine Platform, Lied About It
Top Trump aide Paul Manafort swore that the campaign had nothing to do with a radical change in the official Republican Party position on Ukraine. He was lying.
Eric Brakey, a Maine delegate who identifies as a non-interventionist, said he supported the change, which was pushed in part by the Trump campaign.
“Some staff from the Trump campaign came in and… came back with some language that softened the platform,” Brakey told The Daily Beast. “They didn’t intervene in the platform in most cases. But in that case they had some wisdom to say that maybe we don’t want to be calling… for very, very clear aggressive acts of war against Russia.”
Trump Campaign Changed Ukraine Platform, Lied About It
Definition of treason, anyone????
Yo dingleberry
Talking to the Russians is not a crime
If you do not like it when your political party officers or presidential candidate talk to Russians then don't vote for Trump in 2020. I will.
NOTHING that you motherfuckers say or do will get the 2016 election repeated. NOTHING.
Now that we know that the CIA was using UMBRAGE to hack and blame Russia, Gen Flynn should be brought back .
Give it up , is useless.
.
If what you posted is the best proof yet, (your words), then I would say there is not much proof at all.Nobody is buying the fake "Russian Bear" news anymore. It's FAKE NEWS.
Place your head right back up your ass......."defending" the orange clown when faced by constant proof of his Russian collusion, is the only recourse left for right wing morons....and you're certainly one of these morons.
you mean the press who accepted Obamas word that there was no wrongdoing in the IRS but had no idea that all of the emails were missing? That press?I don't think Congress will find the truth about the Russian collision. The Comrade has placed political operatives in key position, so they can block investigative progress.
The Press is going to have to find the truth.
Remember when "collusion" with Russia was ok when Obama was doing it ?
President Obama: "On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved but it’s important for him to give me space."
President Medvedev: "Yeah, I understand. I understand your message about space. Space for you…"
President Obama: "This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility."
President Medvedev: "I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir, and I stand with you."
Hey, if you say Nazi enough, can Putin invade all of Eastern Europe? DERP!
Give me a break. Putin hasn't invaded jack shit.
On the other hand with Obama. Let's see he installed the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, took out Gaddafi and left Libya to terrorists, assisted the coup in Ukraine and overthrew a duly elected President and his party, then decided he had to help Saudi Arabia and Qatar overthrow Assad and gave the world ISIS.
Don't talk to me about Putin being the bad monster when Obama with the help of his hawks on the R side of the aisle have unleashed living hell in the ME.
Give me a break. Putin hasn't invaded jack shit.
Except he admitted it.
Don't talk to me about Putin being the bad monster when Obama
Oh, Obama was an incompetent asshole, so we have to let Putin invade all his neighbors.
DERP!
You really believe in this Russia is the boogey man shit don't you? One man died. Putin does not want the rest of the Ukraine. He is leaving them to croak on their own. He only wanted Crimea and they wanted Russia. As far as the eastern rebels, he's helping like Obama helped so called rebels in Syria. Pity Obama's rebels turned out to be terrorists but that's a whole different thread.
"The council took a vote: Only Turchynov was in favor of declaring a state of war. And that was that: Russia held a spurious referendum in Crimea and took it over. The Ukrainian government gave up without a fight because it was scared of losing the entire country.
It is inconceivable that Putin didn’t know how weak Ukraine was. He had access to intelligence from the neighboring country. He could even talk directly to the deposed president, Viktor Yanukovych, who had just fled to Russia. Nothing prevented a Russian invasion.
Moreover, Putin didn’t need an additional pretext to step in: Russia had already declared the overthrow of Yanukovych an “anti-constitutional coup” — which, technically, it was, though the ex-president’s oppressive regime had little regard for the constitution.
It could have gotten Yanukovych to sign the kind of request for assistance that serves as a basis for Russia’s current military action in Syria.
Yet Putin didn’t do any of that. He didn’t want to invade the rest of Ukraine and deal with the momentous international consequences
He only wanted Crimea, the Russian navy base populated mainly by pro-Moscow Russian speakers. Yatsenyuk had no illusions about Crimeans when he talked about the possibility of an “ethnic conflict.”
Later, when Russia backed a separatist uprising in eastern Ukraine — providing military advisers, weapons and, eventually, troops — Putin was just as careful to avoid a full-scale invasion, even though he could have crushed the Ukrainian military.
In fact, even though Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko has boasted that his military is now “the strongest in Europe,” Russia still has an overwhelming advantage in numbers, equipment and training.
Throughout the conflict, Putin has never been constrained by any threat of Ukrainian pushback. He doesn’t want overt control of this or any neighbouring country, just political and economic influence.
In Ukraine, he wants to cripple the country enough that the West will be wary of taking it in, integrating it into European institutions. So far, that plan is working: Ukraine remains destitute and riven by internal strife. "
Leonid Bershidsky: Why Putin stopped at Crimea
You really believe in this Russia is the boogey man shit don't you?
No captive nations trapped behind the Iron Curtain for decades after WWII?
Were millions intentionally starved by Stalin in Ukraine in the 30s?
I'm third generation Ukrainian on my mother's side. I know my history intimately when it comes to the Holomodor. That was the USSR.
The Russia of today is as different to the USSR as America is different from her slave holding days.
That's just a fact. Crimea was given to the Ukraine by Kruschev. After the USSR disolved Crimeans stayed with the Ukraine under the condition that they would have full autonomy. After the western backed coup in Kiev, they were not only going to be stripped of their autonomy but become second class citizens because of their ethnic Russian backgrounds. The Russian language would be banned along with several others.
Crimeans moved quickly to ask Moscow to protect them and Putin did so. The poor souls in the Donbass region sadly did not move swiftly enough. So Kiev has sent her neo nazis to fight the rebels.
We would be insane to try to pull the same shit in the Ukraine as we have done in other nations. Because with the Ukraine on his doorstep, Putin will have none of it.
McCain in particular seems intent on starting WWIII. It's bad enough witnessing what has already occured in the Ukraine since the coup, but it is positively chilling to think of what would happen if Trump listened to the war hawks.
Oh no...you did it again Natty. You made an idiotic prediction that is coming back to haunt you.Where before its was only speculation as to WHY the GOP would want to "befriend" the aggressive Putin and betray the Ukraine, proof is slowly emerging about the treasonous deals that either Trump or his closest cronies worked out with the Kremlin.
The "deal" must have been fairly simple......
Russia tells Trump to soften the GOP's platform toward Russia in NOT arming the Ukraine to ward off Putin's aggression.....
And
Putin promises to bash Clinton through Wikileaks to help Trump gain the WH.....
Where before its was only speculation as to WHY the GOP would want to "befriend" the aggressive Putin and betray the Ukraine, proof is slowly emerging about the treasonous deals that either Trump or his closest cronies worked out with the Kremlin.
Trump Campaign Changed Ukraine Platform, Lied About It
Top Trump aide Paul Manafort swore that the campaign had nothing to do with a radical change in the official Republican Party position on Ukraine. He was lying.
Eric Brakey, a Maine delegate who identifies as a non-interventionist, said he supported the change, which was pushed in part by the Trump campaign.
“Some staff from the Trump campaign came in and… came back with some language that softened the platform,” Brakey told The Daily Beast. “They didn’t intervene in the platform in most cases. But in that case they had some wisdom to say that maybe we don’t want to be calling… for very, very clear aggressive acts of war against Russia.”
Trump Campaign Changed Ukraine Platform, Lied About It
Definition of treason, anyone????
