Best proof yet about Trump's collusion with Russia

[OKTexas]

It is scary how the dems continue to be regurgitate fake news. The fact it is the "Russia Hacked the Election" lie has been proven false long ago and anyone who believes it now is very stupid.

Rachel Maddow has been doing an excellent job of connecting all the Trump/Russia dots. She had a very informative segment on the Republican platform change to not arm Ukraine to defend against Russia - specifically requested by Trump himself.

Rachel "Blinky" Maddow is fake news. Here are the facts: The Donald was elected because he was not a neocon! The American people reject the neocon agenda Get over it already!

The election was rigged - but Hillary still got 3 million more votes.

And won a participation trophy. LMAO

 

[Contumacious]

Commies whining about Nazis....hilarious!!!

Crimeans and eastern Ukrainians aren't commies. BUT the west loves their Nazis. You don't know the history of western Ukraine? Like the time they commited genocide in Poland in WWII.

Or had a death camp that was nicknamed the Holocaust of Bullets. Or that their hero Stepan Bandera fought with the Nazis.

Bandera is even buried in Germany and the west still considers him a hero.

Hey, if you say Nazi enough, can Putin invade all of Eastern Europe? DERP!

Give me a break. Putin hasn't invaded jack shit.

On the other hand with Obama. Let's see he installed the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, took out Gaddafi and left Libya to terrorists, assisted the coup in Ukraine and overthrew a duly elected President and his party, then decided he had to help Saudi Arabia and Qatar overthrow Assad and gave the world ISIS.

Don't talk to me about Putin being the bad monster when Obama with the help of his hawks on the R side of the aisle have unleashed living hell in the ME.

Give me a break. Putin hasn't invaded jack shit.

Except he admitted it.

Don't talk to me about Putin being the bad monster when Obama

Oh, Obama was an incompetent asshole, so we have to let Putin invade all his neighbors.

DERP!

You really believe in this Russia is the boogey man shit don't you? One man died. Putin does not want the rest of the Ukraine. He is leaving them to croak on their own. He only wanted Crimea and they wanted Russia. As far as the eastern rebels, he's helping like Obama helped so called rebels in Syria. Pity Obama's rebels turned out to be terrorists but that's a whole different thread.

"The council took a vote: Only Turchynov was in favor of declaring a state of war. And that was that: Russia held a spurious referendum in Crimea and took it over. The Ukrainian government gave up without a fight because it was scared of losing the entire country.

It is inconceivable that Putin didn’t know how weak Ukraine was. He had access to intelligence from the neighboring country. He could even talk directly to the deposed president, Viktor Yanukovych, who had just fled to Russia. Nothing prevented a Russian invasion.

Moreover, Putin didn’t need an additional pretext to step in: Russia had already declared the overthrow of Yanukovych an “anti-constitutional coup” — which, technically, it was, though the ex-president’s oppressive regime had little regard for the constitution.

It could have gotten Yanukovych to sign the kind of request for assistance that serves as a basis for Russia’s current military action in Syria.

Yet Putin didn’t do any of that. He didn’t want to invade the rest of Ukraine and deal with the momentous international consequences

He only wanted Crimea, the Russian navy base populated mainly by pro-Moscow Russian speakers. Yatsenyuk had no illusions about Crimeans when he talked about the possibility of an “ethnic conflict.”

Later, when Russia backed a separatist uprising in eastern Ukraine — providing military advisers, weapons and, eventually, troops — Putin was just as careful to avoid a full-scale invasion, even though he could have crushed the Ukrainian military.

In fact, even though Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko has boasted that his military is now “the strongest in Europe,” Russia still has an overwhelming advantage in numbers, equipment and training.

Throughout the conflict, Putin has never been constrained by any threat of Ukrainian pushback. He doesn’t want overt control of this or any neighbouring country, just political and economic influence.

In Ukraine, he wants to cripple the country enough that the West will be wary of taking it in, integrating it into European institutions. So far, that plan is working: Ukraine remains destitute and riven by internal strife. "

Leonid Bershidsky: Why Putin stopped at Crimea

.Thank you Julian Assange and Wikileaks.


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[oreo]

First, when Trump wants to help Putin invade both the Crimea and eastern Ukraine, even a right wing moron should ask WHY.....?

....and, second, to betray a friend of NATO as the Ukraine is, boils down to collusion with the Kremlin.

Crimea begged for help from Mother Russia. The nazis in Kiev were going to strip away their autonomy and ban all languages other than Ukrainian. And they held a referendum.

We're talking ethnic Russians in both Crimea and Eastern Ukraine. It was the west that pulled off the coup with US and EU support.

Oh and btw no one can seem to come up with pictures for the "invasions". No pictures. In this day and age.

Commies whining about Nazis....hilarious!!!

Crimeans and eastern Ukrainians aren't commies. BUT the west loves their Nazis. You don't know the history of western Ukraine? Like the time they commited genocide in Poland in WWII.

Or had a death camp that was nicknamed the Holocaust of Bullets. Or that their hero Stepan Bandera fought with the Nazis.

Bandera is even buried in Germany and the west still considers him a hero.

Hey, if you say Nazi enough, can Putin invade all of Eastern Europe? DERP!

Give me a break. Putin hasn't invaded jack shit.

On the other hand with Obama. Let's see he installed the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, took out Gaddafi and left Libya to terrorists, assisted the coup in Ukraine and overthrew a duly elected President and his party, then decided he had to help Saudi Arabia and Qatar overthrow Assad and gave the world ISIS.

Don't talk to me about Putin being the bad monster when Obama with the help of his hawks on the R side of the aisle have unleashed living hell in the ME.

Nice try to deflect, it's not working. Gordon a TRUMP surrogate admits to meeting with the Russian ambassador at the RNC convention in Cleveland to install this clause in the RNC platform which he was successful at doing. He admits it came from Trump.

Gordon had advocated for language in the GOP platform that the Ukrainians not be armed in their battle against pro-Russian separatists, an effort was ultimately successful. But Gordon says he was simply advocating what Trump himself had expressed -- that he did not wish to see major war break out over the situation in Ukraine.

More Trump advisers disclose meeting with Russia's ambassador - CNNPolitics.com

So that was the DEAL--you scratch my back I'll scratch your's and help you win this election.

I think many of you forget that OBAMA ordered this Russian investigation to be done BEFORE he left office. It's also reported by several sources that he "preserved intelligence" and that intelligence is DAMMING.

In the final hours of Barack Obama's presidency, some White House officials reportedly raced to spread and preserve information about possible communications between associates of then-candidate Donald Trump and Russians. According to The Times, after Obama asked for an investigation into Russian tampering into the elections, officials found some "damning" evidence.

This is a FOX NEWS link so it has your right wing gold stamp of approval to read.
Obama administration reportedly raced to preserve intelligence on possible contact between Russians and Trump associates

Obama is not going to turn this over to FBI director James Comey, as he is also under investigation for his interference into this election, and he certainly wouldn't have given it too Republicans who would have squashed it.
DOJ to Investigate James Comey and the FBI

This ongoing Senate investigation is the 2nd investigation, and is for show only. More leaks will come out any time one of them lies under oath.

Trump & Company have been wholly outfoxed by Barack Obama. Every time one of them lies under oath, another leak pops out. First Flynn, then Sessions. I imagine Obama will wait until 2018 when Democrats take over to impeach Trump, but then again, maybe not?

 

[JBond]

Again... Trump forced Obama? Really?

Listen douche bag....No ONE is saying that "Trump forced Obama" to do anything.....The orange charlatan was too busy looking for Obama's BC......

Putin wanted Crimea and goy it......Putin wants ALL of the Ukraine and got himself a puppet in the WH this past Nov. to get the rest of that country.

When? Just curious. When does Russia invade the Ukraine? The Dems have acted as lapdogs for Putin for years.

 

[oreo]

Why is a Hungarian interfering in US elections?

Well, you MUST be correct.....Jsut look at the size of your fonts...and they're bold too......LOL

(what an asshole.....)

I agree! It's hilarious to watch some of these clowns use LARGE BOLD FONTS to argue their points. That's usually a clear sign of losing the debate.

They're just trying to defend their own ignorance right now. They know what's going on, and they just can't admit it. They made a YUUUUGGGE mistake by nominating the Russian Ass Clown, and then they weren't smart enough to vote for Hillary Clinton to keep the Russian Ass Clown out of the Oval office. That's what it's boiled down too.

I imagine Democrats are licking their lips right about now. In 2018 the campaign theme will be TREASON, OBSTRUCTION & COVER UP, and they'll have the ammunition to prove it. There won't be a Republican seat safe in this entire country.

 

[tinydancer]

Crimea begged for help from Mother Russia. The nazis in Kiev were going to strip away their autonomy and ban all languages other than Ukrainian. And they held a referendum.

We're talking ethnic Russians in both Crimea and Eastern Ukraine. It was the west that pulled off the coup with US and EU support.

Oh and btw no one can seem to come up with pictures for the "invasions". No pictures. In this day and age.

Commies whining about Nazis....hilarious!!!

Crimeans and eastern Ukrainians aren't commies. BUT the west loves their Nazis. You don't know the history of western Ukraine? Like the time they commited genocide in Poland in WWII.

Or had a death camp that was nicknamed the Holocaust of Bullets. Or that their hero Stepan Bandera fought with the Nazis.

Bandera is even buried in Germany and the west still considers him a hero.

Hey, if you say Nazi enough, can Putin invade all of Eastern Europe? DERP!

Give me a break. Putin hasn't invaded jack shit.

On the other hand with Obama. Let's see he installed the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, took out Gaddafi and left Libya to terrorists, assisted the coup in Ukraine and overthrew a duly elected President and his party, then decided he had to help Saudi Arabia and Qatar overthrow Assad and gave the world ISIS.

Don't talk to me about Putin being the bad monster when Obama with the help of his hawks on the R side of the aisle have unleashed living hell in the ME.

Nice try to deflect, it's not working. Gordon a TRUMP surrogate admits to meeting with the Russian ambassador at the RNC convention in Cleveland to install this clause in the RNC platform which he was successful at doing. He admits it came from Trump.

Gordon had advocated for language in the GOP platform that the Ukrainians not be armed in their battle against pro-Russian separatists, an effort was ultimately successful. But Gordon says he was simply advocating what Trump himself had expressed -- that he did not wish to see major war break out over the situation in Ukraine.

More Trump advisers disclose meeting with Russia's ambassador - CNNPolitics.com

So that was the DEAL--you scratch my back I'll scratch your's and help you win this election.

I think many of you forget that OBAMA ordered this Russian investigation to be done BEFORE he left office. It's also reported by several sources that he "preserved intelligence" and that intelligence is DAMMING.

In the final hours of Barack Obama's presidency, some White House officials reportedly raced to spread and preserve information about possible communications between associates of then-candidate Donald Trump and Russians. According to The Times, after Obama asked for an investigation into Russian tampering into the elections, officials found some "damning" evidence.

This is a FOX NEWS link so it has your right wing gold stamp of approval to read.
Obama administration reportedly raced to preserve intelligence on possible contact between Russians and Trump associates

Obama is not going to turn this over to FBI director James Comey, as he is also under investigation for his interference into this election, and he certainly wouldn't have given it too Republicans who would have squashed it.
DOJ to Investigate James Comey and the FBI

This ongoing Senate investigation is the 2nd investigation, and is for show only. More leaks will come out any time one of them lies under oath.

Trump & Company have been wholly outfoxed by Barack Obama. Every time one of them lies under oath, another leak pops out. First Flynn, then Sessions. I imagine Obama will wait until 2018 when Democrats take over to impeach Trump, but then again, maybe not?

Oh piss off. Trump said he didn't want a major war to break out. And that's a freaking bad thing?

You people are coming off so ridiculous. The real Russian lap dogs were the Podestas. Working for the Kremlin's favorite bank.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Definition of treason, anyone????

Good idea, give us the definition of treason.

18 US Code defines a treasonous act as the one by any individual who, owing allegiance to the United States, instead adheres to the wishes of her enemies.

That's a willful misinterpretation of the law.

18 USC 2381

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.


If we went by your "adheres to the wishes of her enemies" assertion, we could have had Obama executed for brokering that travesty of a deal with Iran. They ran him over. But that's not how the law works.

You're trying so desperately and failing so hard. Please stop embarrassing yourself.

 

[bripat9643]

Definition of treason, anyone????

Good idea, give us the definition of treason.

18 US Code defines a treasonous act as the one by any individual who, owing allegiance to the United States, instead adheres to the wishes of her enemies.

The Constitution defines treason, moron.

 

[theHawk]

The "deal" must have been fairly simple......

Russia tells Trump to soften the GOP's platform toward Russia in NOT arming the Ukraine to ward off Putin's aggression.....

And

Putin promises to bash Clinton through Wikileaks to help Trump gain the WH.....

Where before its was only speculation as to WHY the GOP would want to "befriend" the aggressive Putin and betray the Ukraine, proof is slowly emerging about the treasonous deals that either Trump or his closest cronies worked out with the Kremlin.

Trump Campaign Changed Ukraine Platform, Lied About It
Top Trump aide Paul Manafort swore that the campaign had nothing to do with a radical change in the official Republican Party position on Ukraine. He was lying.

Eric Brakey, a Maine delegate who identifies as a non-interventionist, said he supported the change, which was pushed in part by the Trump campaign.
“Some staff from the Trump campaign came in and… came back with some language that softened the platform,” Brakey told The Daily Beast. “They didn’t intervene in the platform in most cases. But in that case they had some wisdom to say that maybe we don’t want to be calling… for very, very clear aggressive acts of war against Russia.”

Trump Campaign Changed Ukraine Platform, Lied About It

Definition of treason, anyone????

Gee, look who is still pushing for war against Russia over the Ukraine.....progressives.

We're not going to war over the Ukraine no matter how much Soros wants us to, get over it.

 

[nat4900]

Baghdad Bob must be a hero for these desluional right wingers on here....LOL

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Nobody is buying the fake "Russian Bear" news anymore. It's FAKE NEWS.

Grow the fuck up, loser!

Everybody is buying it except the hard core Trump drones. You won't believe it even after he is kicked out.

Exactly.

How many Dems backed the endless Benghazi and email investigations and hearings? None, because they knew it to be political BS.

How many republicans are supporting continued and expanded investigations into the Russian role in our election and their relationship with Trump people? Quite a few and growing. Even they see the serious nature of this issue.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Everybody with a sense of reality now knows that Trump is a Russian puppet

Or at least has a ton of questions and concerns over the relationships that have been denied and later exposed.

 

[Care4all]

The "deal" must have been fairly simple......

Russia tells Trump to soften the GOP's platform toward Russia in NOT arming the Ukraine to ward off Putin's aggression.....

And

Putin promises to bash Clinton through Wikileaks to help Trump gain the WH.....

Where before its was only speculation as to WHY the GOP would want to "befriend" the aggressive Putin and betray the Ukraine, proof is slowly emerging about the treasonous deals that either Trump or his closest cronies worked out with the Kremlin.

Trump Campaign Changed Ukraine Platform, Lied About It
Top Trump aide Paul Manafort swore that the campaign had nothing to do with a radical change in the official Republican Party position on Ukraine. He was lying.

Eric Brakey, a Maine delegate who identifies as a non-interventionist, said he supported the change, which was pushed in part by the Trump campaign.
“Some staff from the Trump campaign came in and… came back with some language that softened the platform,” Brakey told The Daily Beast. “They didn’t intervene in the platform in most cases. But in that case they had some wisdom to say that maybe we don’t want to be calling… for very, very clear aggressive acts of war against Russia.”

Trump Campaign Changed Ukraine Platform, Lied About It

Definition of treason, anyone????

Gee, look who is still pushing for war against Russia over the Ukraine.....progressives.

We're not going to war over the Ukraine no matter how much Soros wants us to, get over it.

why stop at the Ukraine, just let Russia take whatever countries they want...why not let them have Poland back, and Yugoslavia back and Czechoslovakia back who are in the EU now and all the soviet union's satellite countries? why stop at giving them the Ukraine???

 

[Hutch Starskey]

The election was rigged

Typical answer from a loser...

When the Supreme Court leans to the Right, what are you going to do then? It's amazing how brain damaged your kind is, the silent and powerful spoke and you still can't listen...

but Hillary still got 3 million more votes.

So what, the Electoral College didn't care...

And you wonder why you lost...

The supreme court has leaned right my entire lifetime.

 

[theHawk]

The "deal" must have been fairly simple......

Russia tells Trump to soften the GOP's platform toward Russia in NOT arming the Ukraine to ward off Putin's aggression.....

And

Putin promises to bash Clinton through Wikileaks to help Trump gain the WH.....

Where before its was only speculation as to WHY the GOP would want to "befriend" the aggressive Putin and betray the Ukraine, proof is slowly emerging about the treasonous deals that either Trump or his closest cronies worked out with the Kremlin.

Trump Campaign Changed Ukraine Platform, Lied About It
Top Trump aide Paul Manafort swore that the campaign had nothing to do with a radical change in the official Republican Party position on Ukraine. He was lying.

Eric Brakey, a Maine delegate who identifies as a non-interventionist, said he supported the change, which was pushed in part by the Trump campaign.
“Some staff from the Trump campaign came in and… came back with some language that softened the platform,” Brakey told The Daily Beast. “They didn’t intervene in the platform in most cases. But in that case they had some wisdom to say that maybe we don’t want to be calling… for very, very clear aggressive acts of war against Russia.”

Trump Campaign Changed Ukraine Platform, Lied About It

Definition of treason, anyone????

Gee, look who is still pushing for war against Russia over the Ukraine.....progressives.

We're not going to war over the Ukraine no matter how much Soros wants us to, get over it.

why stop at the Ukraine, just let Russia take whatever countries they want...why not let them have Poland back, and Yugoslavia back and Czechoslovakia back in the EU now and all the soviet union's satellite countries? why stop at giving them the Ukraine???

Because those countries are allies and in NATO. The Ukraine isn't. Pretty fucking simple.

 

[nat4900]

Because those countries are allies and in NATO. The Ukraine isn't. Pretty fucking simple.

Given that "rationale", let Putin invade Switzerland.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

The "deal" must have been fairly simple......

Russia tells Trump to soften the GOP's platform toward Russia in NOT arming the Ukraine to ward off Putin's aggression.....

And

Putin promises to bash Clinton through Wikileaks to help Trump gain the WH.....

Where before its was only speculation as to WHY the GOP would want to "befriend" the aggressive Putin and betray the Ukraine, proof is slowly emerging about the treasonous deals that either Trump or his closest cronies worked out with the Kremlin.

Trump Campaign Changed Ukraine Platform, Lied About It
Top Trump aide Paul Manafort swore that the campaign had nothing to do with a radical change in the official Republican Party position on Ukraine. He was lying.

Eric Brakey, a Maine delegate who identifies as a non-interventionist, said he supported the change, which was pushed in part by the Trump campaign.
“Some staff from the Trump campaign came in and… came back with some language that softened the platform,” Brakey told The Daily Beast. “They didn’t intervene in the platform in most cases. But in that case they had some wisdom to say that maybe we don’t want to be calling… for very, very clear aggressive acts of war against Russia.”

Trump Campaign Changed Ukraine Platform, Lied About It

Definition of treason, anyone????

Gee, look who is still pushing for war against Russia over the Ukraine.....progressives.

We're not going to war over the Ukraine no matter how much Soros wants us to, get over it.

No one has even mentioned war except you dopes. Reagan was tough with Russia and was canonized for it. Now you're just corrupt apologists.

 

[Meane]

So Trump didnt call for war? disappointing isn't it? So softening language a bit is considered Radical change? Proof of Bashing Clinton?

First, when Trump wants to help Putin invade both the Crimea and eastern Ukraine, even a right wing moron should ask WHY.....?

....and, second, to betray a friend of NATO as the Ukraine is, boils down to collusion with the Kremlin.

What is a friend of NATO exactly? NATO is friendly to militarily friendly countries, but if that is the definition of friendship between a non-NATO country and NATO, the friendship isn't very useful.

There's hardly evidence or even a reason to suspect Trump helped on any way to invade Ukraine. Whether he thought at night in head two years ago, "go, Putin, go" or not, is irrelevant.

I think it also mighty ridiculous to wonder why Trump would do it. It doesn't need a reason but an opportunity, to betray the mass of people.

 

[theHawk]

The "deal" must have been fairly simple......

Russia tells Trump to soften the GOP's platform toward Russia in NOT arming the Ukraine to ward off Putin's aggression.....

And

Putin promises to bash Clinton through Wikileaks to help Trump gain the WH.....

Where before its was only speculation as to WHY the GOP would want to "befriend" the aggressive Putin and betray the Ukraine, proof is slowly emerging about the treasonous deals that either Trump or his closest cronies worked out with the Kremlin.

Trump Campaign Changed Ukraine Platform, Lied About It
Top Trump aide Paul Manafort swore that the campaign had nothing to do with a radical change in the official Republican Party position on Ukraine. He was lying.

Eric Brakey, a Maine delegate who identifies as a non-interventionist, said he supported the change, which was pushed in part by the Trump campaign.
“Some staff from the Trump campaign came in and… came back with some language that softened the platform,” Brakey told The Daily Beast. “They didn’t intervene in the platform in most cases. But in that case they had some wisdom to say that maybe we don’t want to be calling… for very, very clear aggressive acts of war against Russia.”

Trump Campaign Changed Ukraine Platform, Lied About It

Definition of treason, anyone????

Gee, look who is still pushing for war against Russia over the Ukraine.....progressives.

We're not going to war over the Ukraine no matter how much Soros wants us to, get over it.

No one has even mentioned war except you dopes. Reagan was tough with Russia and was canonized for it. Now you're just corrupt apologists.

Just us "dupes"? How about what George Soros, one of the biggest donors to liberals in the US and EU has to say on the matter?

 

[theHawk]

Because those countries are allies and in NATO. The Ukraine isn't. Pretty fucking simple.

Given that "rationale", let Putin invade Switzerland.

You're afraid he is going to invade Switzerland?