Beware the Marxist world of Kamalla Harris: "There’s a big difference between equality and equity."

[scruffy]

How would possibly know what I know and what I don't know?

You'll find the libtards on this forum can read everyone's mind. They're truly amazing, like Kreskin

 

[Curried Goats]

The more value you provide to your employer, the more you are paid. It’s simple economics. I spent most of my career doing hard, high risk jobs, for which I generally made more than attorneys, way more if you calculate hours worked to pay. I had co-workers who made over six figures every year.

No moron. You get paid based on what you can leverage not your value.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Yeah sure

In modern lib’s world people who they dislike are racists, or nazi’s

Or both

But dont let anyone dare suggest that their leaders are of the marxist persuasion

No sir, no way

But you all should see yourselves the way others see you

Maybe we need to shuffle the deck because the game has changed

Repubs lke Vance are definitely the new populists

While democrats are now heavily supported aka financed by the super rich

The populists are for working-class rights and interests, whereas Trump and Vance aren't. The smart rich know that in the age of advanced automation and artificial intelligence, the working class need all of the help they can get from the government. Republicans just provide assistance to the rich, not their employees:

RANK	PARENT	SUBSIDY VALUE	NUMBER OF AWARDS
1	Boeing	$15,496,865,703	958
2	Intel	$8,421,707,656	135
3	Ford Motor	$7,742,056,086	703
4	General Motors	$7,524,714,800	792
5	Micron Technology	$6,790,131,915	21
6	Amazon.com	$5,823,705,434	460
7	Alcoa	$5,727,691,764	134
8	Cheniere Energy	$5,617,152,523	43
9	Foxconn Technology Group (Hon Hai Precision Industry Company)	$4,820,110,112	74
10	Venture Global LNG	$4,338,702,441	8
11	Texas Instruments	$4,286,328,869	69
12	Volkswagen	$3,977,630,513	217
13	Sempra Energy	$3,828,022,782	51
14	NRG Energy	$3,415,751,518	266
15	NextEra Energy	$3,008,691,129	116
16	Sasol	$2,836,049,845	72
17	Tesla Inc.	$2,829,855,494	114
18	Stellantis	$2,795,436,436	213
19	Walt Disney	$2,543,219,673	265
20	Nucor	$2,538,761,123	176
21	Iberdrola	$2,380,558,984	110
22	Rivian Automotive Inc.	$2,364,054,012	7
23	Hyundai Motor	$2,349,743,470	18
24	Oracle	$2,272,418,288	96
25	Shell PLC	$2,211,676,001	132
26	Mubadala Investment Company	$2,124,035,097	62
27	Nike	$2,104,917,829	153
28	Meta Platforms Inc.	$2,098,261,272	82
29	Toyota	$2,071,010,689	239
30	Alphabet Inc.	$2,054,325,527	125
31	Brookfield Corporation	$1,979,408,388	288
32	Paramount Global	$1,974,249,897	342
33	Comcast	$1,927,402,844	405
34	Exxon Mobil	$1,917,119,478	241
35	Samsung Electronics	$1,891,136,597	41
36	Apple Inc.	$1,845,004,670	63
37	Nissan	$1,842,814,165	98
38	Berkshire Hathaway	$1,830,986,253	1,200
39	Summit Power	$1,783,593,414	6
40	JPMorgan Chase	$1,740,972,699	1,151
41	Energy Transfer	$1,736,836,843	175
42	Cleveland-Cliffs	$1,705,497,604	129
43	Southern Company	$1,694,958,172	45
44	General Electric	$1,645,135,367	958
45	Vornado Realty Trust	$1,623,857,336	33
46	Duke Energy	$1,580,421,869	86
47	Wolfspeed Inc.	$1,563,595,610	64
48	General Atomics	$1,510,875,891	112
49	IBM Corp.	$1,497,901,697	368
50	Lockheed Martin	$1,462,674,082	325
51	OGE Energy	$1,427,570,182	15
52	SCS Energy	$1,419,011,796	5
53	Corning Inc.	$1,391,603,359	401
54	Panasonic	$1,384,147,584	61
55	Microsoft	$1,366,243,159	113
56	Sagamore Development	$1,320,000,000	2
57	Northrop Grumman	$1,284,014,883	285
58	Vingroup	$1,254,000,000	1
59	Continental AG	$1,244,875,478	111
60	RTX Corporation	$1,193,950,954	797
61	CF Industries	$1,134,394,215	131
62	Valero Energy	$1,053,812,692	207
63	Dow Inc.	$1,049,354,213	640
64	AES Corp.	$1,039,510,135	136
65	Air Products & Chemicals	$1,025,557,482	88
66	Exelon	$986,892,877	98
67	Pyramid Companies	$973,565,278	93
68	SK Holdings	$960,550,283	8
69	SkyWest	$944,296,654	339
70	Centene	$916,607,054	60
71	Mazda Toyota Manufacturing, U.S.A., Inc.	$900,000,000	1
72	Apollo Global Management	$897,750,089	594
73	Delta Air Lines	$871,485,833	13
74	Jefferies Financial Group	$871,137,335	16
75	SK Hynix	$866,700,000	2
76	Bayer	$852,475,226	217
77	Honda	$849,832,301	93
78	Shin-Etsu Chemical	$828,683,936	106
79	Enterprise Products Partners	$826,988,371	89
80	SunEdison	$817,425,725	115
81	Goldman Sachs	$800,873,386	253
82	Bank of America	$798,426,128	956
83	E.ON	$786,865,473	40
84	Warner Bros. Discovery Inc.	$786,835,708	219
85	EDF-Electricite de France	$774,590,441	36
86	Triple Five Worldwide	$748,000,000	4
87	EDP-Energias de Portugal	$733,674,868	14
88	Related Companies	$714,675,504	8
89	Koch Industries	$683,066,388	510
90	Caithness Energy	$672,688,888	30
91	Dell Technologies	$658,417,951	185
92	Wells Fargo	$657,333,216	542
93	FedEx	$647,035,546	633
94	Entergy	$638,533,387	235
95	OCI N.V.	$627,879,406	5
96	Eli Lilly	$623,326,368	79
97	Chevron Phillips Chemical	$619,839,444	20
98	Bedrock Detroit	$618,000,000	1
99	Dominion Energy	$615,436,089	79

You're only 44, hence you're going to have to deal with automation and AI, even more so than me. I'm in my early 50s. By the time you're my age in about 7 or 8 years, about 40% of jobs are going to go the way of the dodo.

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[Ghost of a Rider]

Is that funny to you? You can't handle a strong black woman putting you in your place?

He can't handle a strong black woman (or anyone else) disagreeing with him.

IM2 has me on ignore but I've interacted with him enough and have seen enough of his posts to discern that he considers anyone who disagrees with him on any race-related point, no matter how minor, to be racist. That is, if you're white. If you're black then you're an Uncle Tom such as Candace Owens, whom he has already referenced in regards to you.

I'm not the only one to have noticed this; he's been accused numerous times by many posters over the years of blithely tossing out the allegation of racism over a simple disagreement.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

No moron. You get paid based on what you can leverage not your value.

He didn't say "your value", he said the "value you provide".

 

[Curried Goats]

He didn't say "your value", he said the "value you provide".

And? Same semantic difference.

 

[Mac-7]

The populists are for working-class rights and interests, whereas Trump and Vance aren't. The smart rich know that in the age of advanced automation and artificial intelligence, the working class need all of the help they can get from the government. Republicans just provide assistance to the rich, not their employees:

RANK	PARENT	SUBSIDY VALUE	NUMBER OF AWARDS
1	Boeing	$15,496,865,703	958
2	Intel	$8,421,707,656	135
3	Ford Motor	$7,742,056,086	703
4	General Motors	$7,524,714,800	792
5	Micron Technology	$6,790,131,915	21
6	Amazon.com	$5,823,705,434	460
7	Alcoa	$5,727,691,764	134
8	Cheniere Energy	$5,617,152,523	43
9	Foxconn Technology Group (Hon Hai Precision Industry Company)	$4,820,110,112	74
10	Venture Global LNG	$4,338,702,441	8
11	Texas Instruments	$4,286,328,869	69
12	Volkswagen	$3,977,630,513	217
13	Sempra Energy	$3,828,022,782	51
14	NRG Energy	$3,415,751,518	266
15	NextEra Energy	$3,008,691,129	116
16	Sasol	$2,836,049,845	72
17	Tesla Inc.	$2,829,855,494	114
18	Stellantis	$2,795,436,436	213
19	Walt Disney	$2,543,219,673	265
20	Nucor	$2,538,761,123	176
21	Iberdrola	$2,380,558,984	110
22	Rivian Automotive Inc.	$2,364,054,012	7
23	Hyundai Motor	$2,349,743,470	18
24	Oracle	$2,272,418,288	96
25	Shell PLC	$2,211,676,001	132
26	Mubadala Investment Company	$2,124,035,097	62
27	Nike	$2,104,917,829	153
28	Meta Platforms Inc.	$2,098,261,272	82
29	Toyota	$2,071,010,689	239
30	Alphabet Inc.	$2,054,325,527	125
31	Brookfield Corporation	$1,979,408,388	288
32	Paramount Global	$1,974,249,897	342
33	Comcast	$1,927,402,844	405
34	Exxon Mobil	$1,917,119,478	241
35	Samsung Electronics	$1,891,136,597	41
36	Apple Inc.	$1,845,004,670	63
37	Nissan	$1,842,814,165	98
38	Berkshire Hathaway	$1,830,986,253	1,200
39	Summit Power	$1,783,593,414	6
40	JPMorgan Chase	$1,740,972,699	1,151
41	Energy Transfer	$1,736,836,843	175
42	Cleveland-Cliffs	$1,705,497,604	129
43	Southern Company	$1,694,958,172	45
44	General Electric	$1,645,135,367	958
45	Vornado Realty Trust	$1,623,857,336	33
46	Duke Energy	$1,580,421,869	86
47	Wolfspeed Inc.	$1,563,595,610	64
48	General Atomics	$1,510,875,891	112
49	IBM Corp.	$1,497,901,697	368
50	Lockheed Martin	$1,462,674,082	325
51	OGE Energy	$1,427,570,182	15
52	SCS Energy	$1,419,011,796	5
53	Corning Inc.	$1,391,603,359	401
54	Panasonic	$1,384,147,584	61
55	Microsoft	$1,366,243,159	113
56	Sagamore Development	$1,320,000,000	2
57	Northrop Grumman	$1,284,014,883	285
58	Vingroup	$1,254,000,000	1
59	Continental AG	$1,244,875,478	111
60	RTX Corporation	$1,193,950,954	797
61	CF Industries	$1,134,394,215	131
62	Valero Energy	$1,053,812,692	207
63	Dow Inc.	$1,049,354,213	640
64	AES Corp.	$1,039,510,135	136
65	Air Products & Chemicals	$1,025,557,482	88
66	Exelon	$986,892,877	98
67	Pyramid Companies	$973,565,278	93
68	SK Holdings	$960,550,283	8
69	SkyWest	$944,296,654	339
70	Centene	$916,607,054	60
71	Mazda Toyota Manufacturing, U.S.A., Inc.	$900,000,000	1
72	Apollo Global Management	$897,750,089	594
73	Delta Air Lines	$871,485,833	13
74	Jefferies Financial Group	$871,137,335	16
75	SK Hynix	$866,700,000	2
76	Bayer	$852,475,226	217
77	Honda	$849,832,301	93
78	Shin-Etsu Chemical	$828,683,936	106
79	Enterprise Products Partners	$826,988,371	89
80	SunEdison	$817,425,725	115
81	Goldman Sachs	$800,873,386	253
82	Bank of America	$798,426,128	956
83	E.ON	$786,865,473	40
84	Warner Bros. Discovery Inc.	$786,835,708	219
85	EDF-Electricite de France	$774,590,441	36
86	Triple Five Worldwide	$748,000,000	4
87	EDP-Energias de Portugal	$733,674,868	14
88	Related Companies	$714,675,504	8
89	Koch Industries	$683,066,388	510
90	Caithness Energy	$672,688,888	30
91	Dell Technologies	$658,417,951	185
92	Wells Fargo	$657,333,216	542
93	FedEx	$647,035,546	633
94	Entergy	$638,533,387	235
95	OCI N.V.	$627,879,406	5
96	Eli Lilly	$623,326,368	79
97	Chevron Phillips Chemical	$619,839,444	20
98	Bedrock Detroit	$618,000,000	1
99	Dominion Energy	$615,436,089	79

You're only 44, hence you're going to have to deal with automation and AI, even more so than me. I'm in my early 50s. By the time you're my age in about 7 or 8 years, about 40% of jobs are going to go the way of the dodo.

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Your chart is very misleading

Because it covers all levels of government and goes as far back as 1979

And it is 99% tax relief by state and local governments to create jobs

So its not all republicans by a long shot

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

And? Same semantic difference.

Nope. One ascribes value to the person, the other ascribes value to the knowledge and skill a person provides to an employer.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Your chart is very misleading

Because it covers all levels of government and goes as far back as 1979

And it is 99% tax relief by state and local governments to create jobs

So its not all republicans by a long shot

They aren't just tax breaks, so obviously, you're the one being dishonest. Anyone can click on the links and see how it covers much more than tax breaks. You have no problem with socialism for the rich, it's when the government helps working-class people that you complain. What's crazy is that you're most likely a working-class person, with a job. But unfortunately, you've been brainwashed so thoroughly by your capitalist masters that you defend their financial interests at your own expense if not peril.

 

[Curried Goats]

Nope. One ascribes value to the person, the other ascribes value to the knowledge and skill a person provides to an employer.

Sounds like the same thing to me. This knowledge and skill comes from the same person we're talking about, yes?

 

[TruthNotBS]

He didn't say "your value", he said the "value you provide".

In profits. That's value for the employer, profits. Your employer owns everything you produce and provides you with a wage, which is worth much less than the market value of what you're producing.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

In profits. That's value for the employer, profits. Your employer owns everything you produce and provides you with a wage, which is worth much less than the market value of what you're producing.

My employer doesn't own what I produce because I can go and produce for someone else or not produce at all any time I wish.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Sounds like the same thing to me.

Well, it's not.

This falls under that "nuances of language" thing I told you about.

This knowledge and skill comes from the same person we're talking about, yes?

Yes. And?

 

[TruthNotBS]

My employer doesn't own what I produce because I can go and produce (or not produce) any time I wish.

Your employer/exploiter master owns every product and service that you produce and deliver. The fact that if you have the capital, you could become a capitalist, is completely irrelevant and has no bearing on what I said. If you're an employee/exploitee, purchased/hired by an employer, he or she owns your labor and everything it produces. You're quite confused and ignorant if you believe otherwise.