Biden got a prosecutor in Ukraine fired for investigating his son...

[Tijn Von Ingersleben]

Liberals are pieces of shit...this just solidifies that.

 

[Blackrook]

The normal people in America are just scratching their heads...

 

[Crepitus]

I'm just wondering when all the insanity stops.

I'm thinking shortly after you stop posting it.

 

[Rigby5]

...please someone explain why Trump is in trouble? I'm not following...

Biden’s guilt is irrelevant to the point. It is illegal for a public official to gain anything of value from a foreign power for the sake of undermining anyone within the country.

Really? I'm a lawyer so I'd like to see what case, statute, rule or regulation you are citing to support that statement.

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The emoluments clause, also called the foreign emoluments clause, is a provision of the U.S. Constitution (Article I, Section 9, Paragraph 8) that generally prohibits federal officeholders from receiving any gift, payment, or other thing of value from a foreign state or its rulers, officers, or representatives. The clause provides that:No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.

The Constitution also contains a “domestic emoluments clause” (Article II, Section 1, Paragraph 7), which prohibits the president from receiving any “Emolument” from the federal government or the states beyond “a Compensation” for his “Services” as chief executive.


The plain purpose of the foreign emoluments clause was to ensure that the country’s leaders would not be improperly influenced, even unconsciously, through gift giving, then a common and generally corrupt practice among European rulers and diplomats. An early version of the clause, modeled on a rule adopted by the Dutch Republic in 1651 that forbade its foreign ministers from receiving “any presents, directly or indirectly, in any manner or way whatever,” was incorporated into the Articles of Confederation (1781) as Article VI, Paragraph I: Nor shall any person holding any office of profit or trust under the United States, or any of them, accept any present, emolument, office or title of any kind whatever from any King, Prince or foreign State; nor shall the United States in Congress assembled, or any of them, grant any title of nobility.
...}

What Is the Emoluments Clause?

Any time there appears to be a quid pro quo, that is always suspicion of an illegal emolument.
AKA, bribe.

But the burden of proof is to justify why Biden's son was paid over $600,000 in some oil deal that it appears he did nothing for?

 

[Blackrook]

I'm just wondering when all the insanity stops.

I'm thinking shortly after you stop posting it.

Well, I'm not the one saying we have to impeach Trump for the billionth time.

 

[Slade3200]

...please someone explain why Trump is in trouble? I'm not following...

How are not not following? This situation isn’t that complicated. Yes it’s being waaaay over politicized by both sides but what aren’t you understanding?

 

[Camp]

...please someone explain why Trump is in trouble? I'm not following...

Biden’s guilt is irrelevant to the point. It is illegal for a public official to gain anything of value from a foreign power for the sake of undermining anyone within the country.

Really? I'm a lawyer so I'd like to see what case, statute, rule or regulation you are citing to support that statement.

Knowing your posting history I'm gonna hafta call "bullshit" here.

Unlike you, I don't lie on this forum. When I say I'm a lawyer, I am.

Perhaps you can explain Campaign Finance Law. Start with 52 U.S.C. 30121

 

[Slade3200]

...please someone explain why Trump is in trouble? I'm not following...

Trump is not in trouble. You want to hear something funny, someone dug up a treaty the Ukraine signed with us 20 years ago. It REQUIRES them to do what Trump asked them to do. Wait for it...

You watch too much fox. That’s not true

 

[Blackrook]

...please someone explain why Trump is in trouble? I'm not following...

Biden’s guilt is irrelevant to the point. It is illegal for a public official to gain anything of value from a foreign power for the sake of undermining anyone within the country.

Really? I'm a lawyer so I'd like to see what case, statute, rule or regulation you are citing to support that statement.

Knowing your posting history I'm gonna hafta call "bullshit" here.

Unlike you, I don't lie on this forum. When I say I'm a lawyer, I am.

Perhaps you can explain Campaign Finance Law. Start with 52 U.S.C. 30121

You explain it. I've had a long day looking up the law and I'm tired.

 

[Crepitus]

I'm just wondering when all the insanity stops.

I'm thinking shortly after you stop posting it.

Well, I'm not the one saying we have to impeach Trump for the billionth time.

I'm not either.

First, a billion is a whole lotta times. In fact, if they tried to impeach him once per second for the next 30 years they wouldn't quite get to a billion. Now how do you feel about a little bit of exaggeration for effect?

Second, I've been against impeachment all along. It's pointless as long as the Senate is populated by Moscow Mitch's meatpuppets.

 

[Slade3200]

Biden is a crook.....A Deep State crook.

his whole family is....

SHAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! not to serve the people in America.....to serve himself! scum

Prove it

 

[Tijn Von Ingersleben]

Good show Blackrook. A little contribution to the conversation.

 

[Camp]

...please someone explain why Trump is in trouble? I'm not following...

Biden’s guilt is irrelevant to the point. It is illegal for a public official to gain anything of value from a foreign power for the sake of undermining anyone within the country.

Really? I'm a lawyer so I'd like to see what case, statute, rule or regulation you are citing to support that statement.

You’re a lawyer? You have got to be fucking kidding me lol.

What Is the Emoluments Clause?

The foreign emoluments clause also broadly encompasses any kind of profit, benefit, advantage, or service, not merely gifts of money or valuable objects. Thus, it would prohibit a federal officeholder from receiving special consideration in business transactions with a foreign state (or with a corporation owned or managed by a foreign state) that gave the officeholder a competitive advantage over other businesses. Arguably, as the legal scholar Laurence Tribe and others have suggested, the clause would forbid even competitively fair transactions with foreign states, because the profit accruing to the officeholder would fall within the ordinary meaning of “emolument,” and because such arrangements would threaten exactly the kind of improper influence that the clause was intended to prevent.

The Emoluments clause is for receiving gifts or money, not releasing public information or enforcing the law.

I would say nice try, but it was really wasn’t.

Favors and gifts are the same as money. Trump specifically asked for a favor. or a thing of value.

 

[Slade3200]

The normal people in America are just scratching their heads...

You’re right. They are shaking their head at the embarrassment we have in the White House.

 

[Blackrook]

I'm just wondering when all the insanity stops.

I'm thinking shortly after you stop posting it.

Well, I'm not the one saying we have to impeach Trump for the billionth time.

I'm not either.

First, a billion is a whole lotta times. In fact, if they tried to impeach him once per second for the next 30 years they wouldn't quite get to a billion. Now how do you feel about a little bit of exaggeration for effect?

Second, I've been against impeachment all along. It's pointless as long as the Senate is populated by Moscow Mitch's meatpuppets.

That's McCarthyism to call him that. I thought Democrats were against McCarthyism. Not anymore.

 

[Slade3200]

Good show Blackrook. A little contribution to the conversation.

What do you two jokers think this video shows?

 

[MAGAman]

Biden’s guilt is irrelevant to the point. It is illegal for a public official to gain anything of value from a foreign power for the sake of undermining anyone within the country.

That's silly.

Trump didn't get anything.

 

[Billy000]

...please someone explain why Trump is in trouble? I'm not following...

Biden’s guilt is irrelevant to the point. It is illegal for a public official to gain anything of value from a foreign power for the sake of undermining anyone within the country.

Really? I'm a lawyer so I'd like to see what case, statute, rule or regulation you are citing to support that statement.

You’re a lawyer? You have got to be fucking kidding me lol.

What Is the Emoluments Clause?

The foreign emoluments clause also broadly encompasses any kind of profit, benefit, advantage, or service, not merely gifts of money or valuable objects. Thus, it would prohibit a federal officeholder from receiving special consideration in business transactions with a foreign state (or with a corporation owned or managed by a foreign state) that gave the officeholder a competitive advantage over other businesses. Arguably, as the legal scholar Laurence Tribe and others have suggested, the clause would forbid even competitively fair transactions with foreign states, because the profit accruing to the officeholder would fall within the ordinary meaning of “emolument,” and because such arrangements would threaten exactly the kind of improper influence that the clause was intended to prevent.

The Emoluments clause is for receiving gifts or money, not releasing public information or enforcing the law.

I would say nice try, but it was really wasn’t.

So you’re just choosing to ignore the actual text? Got it.

 

[skye]

Biden is a crook.....A Deep State crook.

his whole family is....

SHAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! not to serve the people in America.....to serve himself! scum

Prove it

I don't have to prove shit to you.

Biden and his son Hunter are crooks.....Deep State crooks.

The whole world knows that...starting with Ukraine.

 

[Billy000]

Biden’s guilt is irrelevant to the point. It is illegal for a public official to gain anything of value from a foreign power for the sake of undermining anyone within the country.

That's silly.

Trump didn't get anything.

The attempt itself was illegal. Either way, it’s not like “attempted murder” isn’t a crime.