Biden Handed Republicans A Shovel And They Just Can’t Stop Digging

[struth]

Wasting time, resources, and creating chaos and instability for seniors. Sounds just like the results of overturning Roe, only worse.

reviewing the legislation will allow them to cut any unneeded or waste…saving resources. This was joey xiden’s plan…he wanted to do every four years though

 

[struth]

Only after it is canceled.

hahaha nope geez you idiot…you reauthorixe it before it sunsets…if you allow it to sunset then you have to start all over

 

[Dragonlady]

reviewing the legislation will allow them to cut any unneeded or waste…saving resources. This was joey xiden’s plan…he wanted to do every four years though

You can change, amend or tweak the legislation at any time. You don't threaten to kill something to make it better. That's taking an elephant gun to kill a gnat.

 

[BULLDOG]

reviewing the legislation will allow them to cut any unneeded or waste…saving resources. This was joey xiden’s plan…he wanted to do every four years though

Re-evaluating possible changes is not the same as canceling it, and then starting fresh, with a possibility that it might not be continued..

 

[Lesh]

I PERSONALLY would prefer that SS be eliminated

And the GOP Reps you elect feel the same. Every "solution" you folks come up with is colored by that

 

[BULLDOG]

hahaha nope geez you idiot…you reauthorixe it before it sunsets…if you allow it to sunset then you have to start all over

There is a chance it might not get reautherized. The right is threatening to shut the government down over the debt ceiling. No reason to believe they wouldn't do the same over SS/Medicare.

 

[struth]

You can change, amend or tweak the legislation at any time. You don't threaten to kill something to make it better. That's taking an elephant gun to kill a gnat.

sadly nobody does unless they are force to…that’s the point of a sunset clause…that’s why Joey Xiden proposed it

 

[struth]

Re-evaluating possible changes is not the same as canceling it, and then starting fresh, with a possibility that it might not be continued..

yep that’s what you reauthorize it before ir sunsets

 

[struth]

There is a chance it might not get reautherized. The right is threatening to shut the government down over the debt ceiling. No reason to believe they wouldn't do the same over SS/Medicare.

sure there is a chance

actually it’s xiden that has said he refuses to negotiate and thus shut the govt down

 

[BULLDOG]

sadly nobody does unless they are force to…that’s the point of a sunset clause…that’s why Joey Xiden proposed it

When did Biden propose sunsetting those programs?

 

[BULLDOG]

sure there is a chance

actually it’s xiden that has said he refuses to negotiate and thus shut the govt down

You're a MAGA. Not worth trying to explain it to you again. Fortunately, the pile of MAGAs is getting smaller by the day.

 

[Dragonlady]

hahaha nope geez you idiot…you reauthorixe it before it sunsets…if you allow it to sunset then you have to start all over

Maybe. Isn't that what's been happening with the Voting Rights Act???? Then Republicans refused to renew it at all, and you have literally hundreds of voter suppression laws being passed around the country. Wash, rinse and repeat for Roe.

And when Democrats have tried to revive the Voting Rights Act, Republicans have steadfastly refused to even consider it.

The Republican Party is busy tearing down everything that the American people have built and voted for over the past 100 years.

sadly nobody does unless they are force to…that’s the point of a sunset clause…that’s why Joey Xiden proposed it

Well that is simply not true. The whole point of a "sunset clause" is to end a temporary or time limited program.

This is a link to the legislative history of Social Security. As you can see, all of the things you want to see have been done, over and over again without scrapping the law and starting over.

Social Security History

And I once again remind you of what happened when the Voting Rights Act "sunsetted". 0r the Fairness Doctrine.

 

[MagicMike]

And the Dem's solution to ignore it until it blows is much better right?

Or removing the contribution cap while keeping the benefit cap, thus changing the entire nature of it from a retirement plan to a tax and spend.

How about politicians the past 8 decades have to admit the money has been spent on the general fund via IOU's mislabeled as "securities"?

All we need to do is raise taxes on the wealthy.
Problem solved.

 

[martybegan]

All we need to do is raise taxes on the wealthy.
Problem solved.

Social Security is not a tax, it's something for everyone. Benefits are capped so contributions are capped.

 

[struth]

When did Biden propose sunsetting those programs?

1975…he wanted to do it every 4 years not 5 though

 

[struth]

You're a MAGA. Not worth trying to explain it to you again. Fortunately, the pile of MAGAs is getting smaller by the day.

no, it’s not worth you explaining how little you know about civics to me again

 

[easyt65]

Joe Biden still has the shovel, and it appears he is either trying to bury himself or dig his way to CHINA!

 

[struth]

Maybe. Isn't that what's been happening with the Voting Rights Act???? Then Republicans refused to renew it at all, and you have literally hundreds of voter suppression laws being passed around the country. Wash, rinse and repeat for Roe.

And when Democrats have tried to revive the Voting Rights Act, Republicans have steadfastly refused to even consider it.

The Republican Party is busy tearing down everything that the American people have built and voted for over the past 100 years.




Well that is simply not true. The whole point of a "sunset clause" is to end a temporary or time limited program.

This is a link to the legislative history of Social Security. As you can see, all of the things you want to see have been done, over and over again without scrapping the law and starting over.

Social Security History

And I once again remind you of what happened when the Voting Rights Act "sunsetted". 0r the Fairness Doctrine.

it was

Maybe. Isn't that what's been happening with the Voting Rights Act???? Then Republicans refused to renew it at all, and you have literally hundreds of voter suppression laws being passed around the country. Wash, rinse and repeat for Roe.

And when Democrats have tried to revive the Voting Rights Act, Republicans have steadfastly refused to even consider it.

The Republican Party is busy tearing down everything that the American people have built and voted for over the past 100 years.




Well that is simply not true. The whole point of a "sunset clause" is to end a temporary or time limited program.

This is a link to the legislative history of Social Security. As you can see, all of the things you want to see have been done, over and over again without scrapping the law and starting over.

Social Security History

And I once again remind you of what happened when the Voting Rights Act "sunsetted". 0r the Fairness Doctrine.

what are you talking about? It was reauthorized by a unanimiously and signed by Bush in 2006...it sunsets every 25 years...it's not up again til 2031. Geez, this is why it's silly to have a convo with dembots that are clueless

 

[BULLDOG]

1975…he wanted to do it every 4 years not 5 though

In the past 45 years, he has made it clear where he stands on SS and Medicare. In 1975, I was upset because The Greatful Dead stopped touring. Lots of things have change since then.

 

[struth]

In the past 45 years, he has made it clear where he stands on SS and Medicare. In 1975, I was upset because The Greatful Dead stopped touring. Lots of things have change since then.

Yes, he has...https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/3857208-if-cutting-social-security-is-a-scandal-then-biden-did-it-first/

President Biden and his fellow Democrats are accusing Republicans of wanting to cut Social Security benefits. But in 1983, then-Sen. Biden (D-Del.) and 25 other Senate Democrats, along with 163 House Democrats, provided the large majority of votes to pass the last cut to Social Security benefits. If cutting Social Security benefits is a scandal, then Biden’s guilty.