Bigot Trump’s Muslim Ban: An Act of Hate and Ignorance

[Kosh]

“That the order, breathtaking in scope and inflammatory in tone, was issued on Holocaust Remembrance Day spoke of the president’s callousness and indifference to history, to America’s deepest lessons about its own values.

The order lacks any logic. It invokes the attacks of Sept. 11 as a rationale, while exempting the countries of origin of all the hijackers who carried out that plot and also, perhaps not coincidentally, several countries where the Trump family does business. The document does not explicitly mention any religion, yet it sets a blatantly unconstitutional standard by excluding Muslims while giving government officials the discretion to admit people of other faiths.

The order’s language makes clear that the xenophobia and Islamophobia that permeated Mr. Trump’s campaign are to stain his presidency as well. Un-American as they are, they are now American policy.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/28/opinion/donald-trumps-muslim-ban-is-cowardly-and-dangerous.html

Indeed, the order is irrational – devoid of worth and merit; it is yet another manifestation of the ignorance, fear, and hate common to most on the right.

More far left religious dogma using the most common fallacies.

Then again the far left supports ISIS, so should the far left be banned from the US?

 

[MACAULAY]

The only way Liberals can argue is to lie and change the facts. How sad for them. It's not a muslim ban. But we've been through this. The OP is just miserable and butt hurt.

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This sums it up very well.

The O. P. is the Fallacy Dude, just back from the Safe Room he repaired to after the election.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

“That the order, breathtaking in scope and inflammatory in tone, was issued on Holocaust Remembrance Day spoke of the president’s callousness and indifference to history, to America’s deepest lessons about its own values.

The order lacks any logic. It invokes the attacks of Sept. 11 as a rationale, while exempting the countries of origin of all the hijackers who carried out that plot and also, perhaps not coincidentally, several countries where the Trump family does business. The document does not explicitly mention any religion, yet it sets a blatantly unconstitutional standard by excluding Muslims while giving government officials the discretion to admit people of other faiths.

The order’s language makes clear that the xenophobia and Islamophobia that permeated Mr. Trump’s campaign are to stain his presidency as well. Un-American as they are, they are now American policy.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/28/opinion/donald-trumps-muslim-ban-is-cowardly-and-dangerous.html

Indeed, the order is irrational – devoid of worth and merit; it is yet another manifestation of the ignorance, fear, and hate common to most on the right.

Let’s clear up this matter of Emperor Trump having the authority to do what he has done on this so-called “muslim ban”. The statutory language is explicit:

U.S. Code § 1182 - Inadmissible aliens: “Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens OR ANY CLASS OF aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.”

The ALL CAPS words are to emphasize that he could refuse muslims from those countries as a “class” but still allow Christians.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

“That the order, breathtaking in scope and inflammatory in tone, was issued on Holocaust Remembrance Day spoke of the president’s callousness and indifference to history, to America’s deepest lessons about its own values.

So our government needs to schedule its business day around an event which took place half-way around the world? ....

Haha, you misunderstand the meaning. It's not that the gov't of the U.S. can't conduct business on that day, nor is it a national holiday. It's the irony of establishing a ban on a religious group (although I agree with the ban), on a day when people in the world say "Never Again" to the bigotry and prejudice that produced the Holocaust.

Anyway, Sunni Man, considering what kind of statement you put in your signature line, I hope you get deported now.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Where ya been, Jonsey? That election rattle ya?

yea he needed time to hope everyone forgets all the shit he said about how trump will never be elected....basically just another pussy,right jones?....care to prove me wrong?....

 

[Norman]

“That the order, breathtaking in scope and inflammatory in tone, was issued on Holocaust Remembrance Day spoke of the president’s callousness and indifference to history, to America’s deepest lessons about its own values.

So our government needs to schedule its business day around an event which took place half-way around the world? ....

Haha, you misunderstand the meaning. It's not that the gov't of the U.S. can't conduct business on that day, nor is it a national holiday. It's the irony of establishing a ban on a religious group (although I agree with the ban), on a day when people in the world say "Never Again" to the bigotry and prejudice that produced the Holocaust.

What's ironic about it? Muslims want jews in stone ovens. Never again indeed.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Another nutter duped by Democrat Fake News. There is no 'Muslim Ban.' Trump has placed limits on Immigration from certain very dangerous nations. The #1 priority has to be protecting Americans. The Democrats are gonna regret fighting this at some point. Most Americans are proud of Trump for looking out for them. Only fringe Democrat nuts oppose this reasonable logical action.

Ever notice how the Saudis; the purveyors of Wahabism, home of 15 of the 19 9/11 terrorists, whose officials where scurried out of the country by Bush right after 9/11 are never hinted at by this power structure?

 

[Harry Dresden]

The only way Liberals can argue is to lie and change the facts. How sad for them. It's not a muslim ban. But we've been through this. The OP is just miserable and butt hurt.

______________________________

This sums it up very well.

The O. P. is the Fallacy Dude, just back from the Safe Room he repaired to after the election.

is that an ad hoc fallacy?....

 

[Rocko]

Will hussein obozo speak up? My guess is yes

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Will hussein obozo speak up? My guess is yes

No he won't Trump used Obama's own previous order to establish this one.

 

[Sunni Man]

Anyway, Sunni Man, considering what kind of statement you put in your signature line, I hope you get deported now.

My signature line is a quote by a famous Jewish scholar.

Plus, I'm a U.S. citizen, born and raised. So deportation isn't an option. ...

 

[Dschrute3]

Another nutter duped by Democrat Fake News. There is no 'Muslim Ban.' Trump has placed limits on Immigration from certain very dangerous nations. The #1 priority has to be protecting Americans. The Democrats are gonna regret fighting this at some point. Most Americans are proud of Trump for looking out for them. Only fringe Democrat nuts oppose this reasonable logical action.

Ever notice how the Saudis; the purveyors of Wahabism, home of 15 of the 19 9/11 terrorists, whose officials where scurried out of the country by Bush right after 9/11 are never hinted at by this power structure?

Wise observation. It's all about the money. I've been saying for years that Saudi Arabia is the most evil nation on earth. But our Government sold its soul to the Saudi Devil a long time ago. I mean, our previous President even vetoed a bill that would have allowed 9/11 victims' families to sue Saudi Arabia.

Sadly, most past Presidents have dutifully kneeled to kiss the Saudi Royal Ring. Trump's actually scheduled to head over to the Middle East next week. He's been pretty critical of Saudi Arabia in the past. He's supposedly not well-liked by the Royal Family. So will he kneel to kiss the Saudi Royal Ring too? I guess we'll see. Stay tuned.

 

[mudwhistle]

“That the order, breathtaking in scope and inflammatory in tone, was issued on Holocaust Remembrance Day spoke of the president’s callousness and indifference to history, to America’s deepest lessons about its own values.

The order lacks any logic. It invokes the attacks of Sept. 11 as a rationale, while exempting the countries of origin of all the hijackers who carried out that plot and also, perhaps not coincidentally, several countries where the Trump family does business. The document does not explicitly mention any religion, yet it sets a blatantly unconstitutional standard by excluding Muslims while giving government officials the discretion to admit people of other faiths.

The order’s language makes clear that the xenophobia and Islamophobia that permeated Mr. Trump’s campaign are to stain his presidency as well. Un-American as they are, they are now American policy.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/28/opinion/donald-trumps-muslim-ban-is-cowardly-and-dangerous.html

Indeed, the order is irrational – devoid of worth and merit; it is yet another manifestation of the ignorance, fear, and hate common to most on the right.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

“That the order, breathtaking in scope and inflammatory in tone, was issued on Holocaust Remembrance Day spoke of the president’s callousness and indifference to history, to America’s deepest lessons about its own values.

The order lacks any logic. It invokes the attacks of Sept. 11 as a rationale, while exempting the countries of origin of all the hijackers who carried out that plot and also, perhaps not coincidentally, several countries where the Trump family does business. The document does not explicitly mention any religion, yet it sets a blatantly unconstitutional standard by excluding Muslims while giving government officials the discretion to admit people of other faiths.

The order’s language makes clear that the xenophobia and Islamophobia that permeated Mr. Trump’s campaign are to stain his presidency as well. Un-American as they are, they are now American policy.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/28/opinion/donald-trumps-muslim-ban-is-cowardly-and-dangerous.html

Indeed, the order is irrational – devoid of worth and merit; it is yet another manifestation of the ignorance, fear, and hate common to most on the right.

You contradict yourself. How can it be a Muslim ban when Muslims from other majority Muslim nations are not effected by it any more than Christians or Jews?

Hmmm ... How why would that be?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Another nutter duped by Democrat Fake News. There is no 'Muslim Ban.' Trump has placed limits on Immigration from certain very dangerous nations. The #1 priority has to be protecting Americans. The Democrats are gonna regret fighting this at some point. Most Americans are proud of Trump for looking out for them. Only fringe Democrat nuts oppose this reasonable logical action.

Ever notice how the Saudis; the purveyors of Wahabism, home of 15 of the 19 9/11 terrorists, whose officials where scurried out of the country by Bush right after 9/11 are never hinted at by this power structure?

Wise observation. It's all about the money. I've been saying for years that Saudi Arabia is the most evil nation on earth. But our Government sold its soul to the Saudi Devil a long time ago. I mean, our previous President even vetoed a bill that would have allowed 9/11 victims' families to sue Saudi Arabia.

Sadly, most past Presidents have dutifully kneeled to kiss the Saudi Royal Ring. Trump's actually scheduled to head over to the Middle East next week. He's been pretty critical of Saudi Arabia in the past. He's supposedly not well-liked by the Royal Family. So will he kneel to kiss the Saudi Royal Ring too? I guess we'll see. Stay tuned.

That's not his ring.

 

[saveliberty]

There is no ban, it is more intense vetting.

The listed countries come directly from president Obama's list.

It is national based, not religion based.

It fits within the confines established from Obama's misadventure in the Supreme Court.

 

[saveliberty]

Hmmm ... How why would that be?

Turkey is a NATO nation moron.

Name one list of terrorism from Obama that includes Egypt or Saudi Arabia.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

The only way Liberals can argue is to lie and change the facts. How sad for them. It's not a muslim ban. But we've been through this. The OP is just miserable and butt hurt.

So now Rudy Giuliani is a liberal?

 

[Fenton Lum]

Another nutter duped by Democrat Fake News. There is no 'Muslim Ban.' Trump has placed limits on Immigration from certain very dangerous nations. The #1 priority has to be protecting Americans. The Democrats are gonna regret fighting this at some point. Most Americans are proud of Trump for looking out for them. Only fringe Democrat nuts oppose this reasonable logical action.

Ever notice how the Saudis; the purveyors of Wahabism, home of 15 of the 19 9/11 terrorists, whose officials where scurried out of the country by Bush right after 9/11 are never hinted at by this power structure?

Wise observation. It's all about the money. I've been saying for years that Saudi Arabia is the most evil nation on earth. But our Government sold its soul to the Saudi Devil a long time ago. I mean, our previous President even vetoed a bill that would have allowed 9/11 victims' families to sue Saudi Arabia.

Sadly, most past Presidents have dutifully kneeled to kiss the Saudi Royal Ring. Trump's actually scheduled to head over to the Middle East next week. He's been pretty critical of Saudi Arabia in the past. He's supposedly not well-liked by the Royal Family. So will he kneel to kiss the Saudi Royal Ring too? I guess we'll see. Stay tuned.

Well he does have the usual Goldman Sachs cabal in his white house.

 

[toomuchtime_]

“That the order, breathtaking in scope and inflammatory in tone, was issued on Holocaust Remembrance Day spoke of the president’s callousness and indifference to history, to America’s deepest lessons about its own values.

The order lacks any logic. It invokes the attacks of Sept. 11 as a rationale, while exempting the countries of origin of all the hijackers who carried out that plot and also, perhaps not coincidentally, several countries where the Trump family does business. The document does not explicitly mention any religion, yet it sets a blatantly unconstitutional standard by excluding Muslims while giving government officials the discretion to admit people of other faiths.

The order’s language makes clear that the xenophobia and Islamophobia that permeated Mr. Trump’s campaign are to stain his presidency as well. Un-American as they are, they are now American policy.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/28/opinion/donald-trumps-muslim-ban-is-cowardly-and-dangerous.html

Indeed, the order is irrational – devoid of worth and merit; it is yet another manifestation of the ignorance, fear, and hate common to most on the right.

You contradict yourself. How can it be a Muslim ban when Muslims from other majority Muslim nations are not effected by it any more than Christians or Jews?

Hmmm ... How why would that be?

I don't understand your question since your attachment makes my point.