Bill Nye reveals the science behind warm winter weather

A CNN article by Adam Sobel, atmospheric scientist at Lamont-Doherty, on the "freakishly warm December" in the north east.

Why the freakishly warm December? (Opinion) - CNN.com

Adam Sobel, a professor at Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory and Fu Foundation School of Engineering and Applied Science, is an atmospheric scientist who studies extreme events and the risks they pose to human society. Sobel is the author of "Storm Surge," a book about Superstorm Sandy. Follow him on Twitter: @profadamsobel. The opinions expressed are his own.

(CNN)The eastern U.S. is warm. Really, really warm. In Central Park, the daytime high on Christmas Eve was 71 degrees Fahrenheit. That's 8 degrees over the previous record for the day.

Similar records are being set all over the east. And it hasn't just been a couple days of warm weather; it's been weeks. Record high temperatures have been set by the thousands during December so far, and the month isn't over yet. The average December temperature in New York Citymay reach 14 degrees above average by the end of the month, breaking the previous record, set in 1932, by a couple of degrees.

And it's not just the heat, it's the humidity. The warm air is being delivered by southerly winds coming straight from the tropics, and they carry the tropical moisture with them also. The specific humidity -- the total amount of water vapor in the air - is breaking records just like the temperature is. The warmth and mugginess are off the charts, separately and together.

Because it's December, this is just a curiosity, a story about weird weather. If these deviations from average were to happen in the summer, though, and they were to last as long as they have over as widespread an area as they have, it would be a heat wave big enough to cause a major national disaster. There would be many deaths, and most likely blackouts and other infrastructure failures.

Sooner or later, that will happen. So it's worth understanding what is going on. What is causing this extreme weather event?

No weather event has a unique cause. Every weather event, this one included, has multiple factors that conspire to make it what it is.

The atmosphere is always twisting and turning around, chaotically, with a mind of its own. Any truly extreme event results in large part from that effectively random behavior. For that reason, the specifics of individual extreme events are not predictable far ahead of time -- weather forecasting, which is the science of predicting this chaotic component, generally doesn't work for periods beyond a couple of weeks.

But the climate sets the stage, pushing things in one direction or another and influencing the odds that an extreme event of a given type will occur.

By making the whole planet warmer, human emissions of greenhouse gases increase the odds of a warm event like this one -- or its more dangerous hypothetical summer counterpart. If we define the event by specifying a fixed threshold -- some number of degrees above average for some number of days, say -- the global warming that we've already had makes that threshold more likely to be crossed.

Or we can look at it another way: If the specific weather situation -- the configuration of the high and low pressure systems, the jet stream, and so forth -- were to have been in the the same state 200 years ago as today, it would have still been warm, but it wouldn't have been quite as warm as today.

Besides human influence, the climate also fluctuates naturally. The most important natural fluctuation this winter is El Niño, a change in the state of both the ocean and the atmosphere in the tropical Pacific that comes every few years or so. The coming and going of El Nino events happens on a pace much faster than that of human-induced climate change, but still much slower and steadier than the day-to-day weather, so it makes sense to think of it as another factor gently nudging the weather in one direction.

In addition to human-induced climate change, the big El Niño currently in place is very likely a significant factor in the present eastern warmth, because of the way it pushes the jet stream around. That's why a warm December was predicted well ahead of time (though not to the extreme that has happened); we knew through the fall that the El Niño would still be in place now, and what its effects on the U.S. tend to be.

El Niño doesn't drive the bus by itself any more than global warming does. There's still a lot of wiggle room for the atmosphere to do its own thing. That's very apparent in the Pacific Northwest, where I am now. Normally an El Niño makes it dry here, but instead it's been the rainiest December in history. So the atmosphere's own variability must be important as well. Each of these factors is present, and likely playing some role in the specific event we see transpiring now.

But just saying that every possible cause matters to an extreme weather event isn't very satisfying. Which cause matters the most, by how much and in what sense? Can we measure these various influences on the weather with numbers?

In principle, we can. There is now a growing scientific research area that attempts to do this called "extreme event attribution." Attribution studies try to quantify the influence of specific causes (including, but not limited to human-induced climate change) on some individual weather events, rather than just the larger patterns that climate science has historically been about. The National Academy of Sciences is currently performing a study on this relatively new and rapidly evolving field. (Full disclosure: I'm on the committee that is performing the study.)

This warm event is still ongoing, so attribution studies haven't been done on it yet. But they will come. The science is reaching the point where we can make real scientific statements about the factors influencing individual weather events like this one, with numbers and statistical confidence intervals and multiple lines of evidence.

So is the current eastern warmth due to human-induced climate change? How about the massive El Niño event that is currently underway in the tropical Pacific? Or is it just an extreme random fluctuation of the weather?

Detailed answers have to await the research to be done. But the basic, general answer, glib but likely true, is: Yes.
 
He hedges because the science is not complete and because, as you say, he is honest.
 
let's see steph

In the early 2000s, Nye assisted in the development of a small sundial that was included in the Mars Exploration Rover missions.] Known as MarsDial, it included small colored panels to provide a basis for color calibration in addition to helping keep track of time From 2005 to 2010, Nye was the vice president of The Planetary Society, an organization that advocates space science research and the exploration of other planets, particularly Mars. He became the organization's second Executive Director in September 2010 when Louis Friedman stepped down.

versus a trailer dwelling gob'ment cheese eater without an education
so he isn't a science climate specialist, thanks, we already knew that.
 
NOAA and NASA have never said their data was "fake". That would make your statement a lie and you a liar.
 
Bill nye for president 2016!

A compilation found on Reddit of jerks in this world. This one focused on your hopeful candidate.
(I guess I am tired of him ridiculing and mocking those who don't fall in lockstep with his evolution demands. The guy is a tragedy.)

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He came to my University on two separate occasions (I hear he is coming again) and he was so fickle and rude, both times! I told him he was my hero, and that I'd love his autograph and he just yelled "HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO REMIND PEOPLE, NO AUTOGRAPHS!"

He then started going off on how he asked for (a certain brand of water, I don't know, maybe Smart Water?) water 5 minutes ago and that they brought him the wrong one.

It sounds dumb, but he was serious about it. It really put me off, and I no longer admire nor respect him. He's a jerk.

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Bill Nye The Science Asshole

My dad worked at the Hilltop Alehouse in Seattle WA, which was frequently visited by Bill Nye. The waiters all called him "Bill Nye the Science Asshole" Apparently he would come in, get hammered, and try to bang chicks by pulling the "I'm famous, lets make love" card. I keep hearing nothing but similar stories about him :/

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Flips His Shit About "no Autographs"

I had to share this one. When my twin brother was in third grade his class went on a field trip to see the Hubble telescope. Who should happen to be there, completely by chance and actually in the middle of serious research, but Bill Nye the freaking Science Guy.

Before any kid says anything about the minor celebrity, Mr. Nye flips his shit about "no autograph" and how he shouldn't have to deal with this bullshit while he's working. Let me repeat: no kid had approached him or asked for any autographs. The class had to leave early.

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I'm probably late to the game and no one is going to notice, But Bill Nye Screamed at a friend of mine at a Ralph Nader rally. Pretty surreal. He was all riled up about the upcoming Bush v. Gore election and was totally losing his mind about it. Like pro wrestler style.

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Some teachers at school met Bill Nye. Well I was in the room at the time and got to meet him too. He was really boring and sort of an asshole.

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People on reddit always get mad about this, but I have heard from multiple friends that Bill Nye is a huge fucking asshole.

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Bill Nye (until he found out what reddit was saying about him and started to clean up his public act. Read some older encounters with him, dude was just brutal to people!)

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BILL NYE! Spoke at my college a couple years back. Seemed totally burnout, arrogant, and annoyed. Seemed like the kind of guy that would drink the pain away every night and seriously contemplate suicide.

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Bill Nye the Science Guy is a total dick in real life. He was on the phone in Pike Place market and I waved to him and said "Bill Nye!" and he flipped me off.

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Bill Nye was very dismissive to me as a kid, he was a family friend back in the day. I will always remember how big of a jerk he was to me.

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Bill Nye the Science guy. My dad met him, he's a complete asshole

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Bill Nye. My friend lives about half an hour away from him, and on Halloween he went to Nye's house. That motherfucker was an absolute dick to all of the children in front of him. He also gave out an apple. Fuck Bill.

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Anything backing up your stories? You know, like newpaper articles, reputable papers, not the Weekly Globe, WUWT, or Briebart.
i guess reading really isn't one of your skills you've mastered. Funny, you didn't even read what was posted did you? Had you, you would have seen they were personal stories, but hey why let facts get in the way of you posting bullshit.
 
NOAA and NASA have never said their data was "fake". That would make your statement a lie and you a liar.
here,

C3: "Science" By Lubchenco's NOAA: Fake Global Warming By Changing Historical Temperature Data

Excerpt:

Surprise! That exact politically-correct green agenda is robustly being carried out by NOAA's "scientists" as seen below.


The above record of temperature change over the four months since July 2011, by NOAA & NCDC personnel, is definitely not random. There is a significant man-made pattern to the cooling and warming changes.
 
NOAA and NASA have never said their data was "fake". That would make your statement a lie and you a liar.
and another story:

Media Matters again:

In fact, the National Climatic Data Center (NCDC) and NASA, which both maintain temperature records that use slightly different methods but show close agreement, have publicly documented the peer-reviewed adjustments they make to raw data.

Fox News Flash! NASA Fakes Temp Data! Obama Born in Kenya! Batboy Found in Cave!

Now if you truly are an honest person, do they or don't they adjust raw data and change historical records?
 
Or years. Or decades. Or centuries.
sure, same reason I already gave. And BTW, you have no data to disagree with that either.

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Or years. Or decades. Or centuries.
sure, same reason I already gave. And BTW, you have no data to disagree with that either.

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let's see the data set, not some graph. We already have that adjustments are made so please post up the raw data, the actual data, not the faked data. I knew you'd go here, to prove some fallacy. good job you did as you always do.
 
NOAA and NASA have never said their data was "fake". That would make your statement a lie and you a liar.
here,

C3: "Science" By Lubchenco's NOAA: Fake Global Warming By Changing Historical Temperature Data

Excerpt:

Surprise! That exact politically-correct green agenda is robustly being carried out by NOAA's "scientists" as seen below.


The above record of temperature change over the four months since July 2011, by NOAA & NCDC personnel, is definitely not random. There is a significant man-made pattern to the cooling and warming changes.

This is just more denier crap. You claimed that NASA and NOAA had stated their data was fake. Where is such a statement jc? FROM THEM. Statements that they have made adjustments and corrections to the data are not statements from them that their data is "fake". Apparently, you're still a liar.
 
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Or years. Or decades. Or centuries.
sure, same reason I already gave. And BTW, you have no data to disagree with that either.

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let's see the data set, not some graph. We already have that adjustments are made so please post up the raw data, the actual data, not the faked data. I knew you'd go here, to prove some fallacy. good job you did as you always do.

Fuck you and your data crap. You've REPEATEDLY been provided raw data and processing code. It is patently obvious to EVERYONE here you don't have the faintest idea what or how to do anything with it. And five minutes later you claim you were never given anything. As always, attempting to actually debate you on anything is a complete waste of time because you're ignorant and you lie.
 
NOAA and NASA have never said their data was "fake". That would make your statement a lie and you a liar.
here,

C3: "Science" By Lubchenco's NOAA: Fake Global Warming By Changing Historical Temperature Data

Excerpt:

Surprise! That exact politically-correct green agenda is robustly being carried out by NOAA's "scientists" as seen below.


The above record of temperature change over the four months since July 2011, by NOAA & NCDC personnel, is definitely not random. There is a significant man-made pattern to the cooling and warming changes.

This is just more denier crap. You claimed that NASA and NOAA had stated their data was fake. Where is such a statement jc? FROM THEM. Statements that they have made adjustments and corrections to the data are not statements from them that their data is "fake". Apparently, you're still a liar.
A paper they put out:
link: http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/ushcn/papers/vose-etal2003.pdf
excerpt:
1. Introduction
[2] The U.S. Historical Climatology Network (HCN)
database [Easterling et al., 1996] is commonly used to
quantify climate change because it contains adjustments
that account for historical variations in observation time
[Karl et al., 1986], station location/instrumentation [Karl
and Williams, 1987], and population growth [Karl et al.,
1988]. In a comparative analysis of the conterminous
United States, Balling and Idso [2002] determined that
adjusted HCN temperature trends for the past 30 years were
slightly more positive than those derived from other datasets
[e.g., Jones, 1994; Christy et al., 2000]. This led to the
hypothesis that the HCN contained a ‘‘spurious’’ warming
that likely resulted from the adjustments for historical
variations in observation time. Given this supposition, the
purpose of this paper is to demonstrate the reliability of the
adjustments for this ‘‘time of observation’’ bias in HCN
 
Or years. Or decades. Or centuries.
sure, same reason I already gave. And BTW, you have no data to disagree with that either.

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let's see the data set, not some graph. We already have that adjustments are made so please post up the raw data, the actual data, not the faked data. I knew you'd go here, to prove some fallacy. good job you did as you always do.

Fuck you and your data crap. You've REPEATEDLY been provided raw data and processing code. It is patently obvious to EVERYONE here you don't have the faintest idea what or how to do anything with it. And five minutes later you claim you were never given anything. As always, attempting to actually debate you on anything is a complete waste of time because you're ignorant and you lie.
oh you provided graphs, and I never stated you didn't. I said I called them bullshit since none of the data is real raw data from global stations. Data is manipulated, and you can deny that until you die, I don't care, i have researched and found that indeed data is biased by those who provide the gaphs and they admit it changing data, calling it biased data. Hah, altered data to be more precise, and sorry, I don't find it at all appropriate.
 
NOAA and NASA have never said their data was "fake". That would make your statement a lie and you a liar.
here,

C3: "Science" By Lubchenco's NOAA: Fake Global Warming By Changing Historical Temperature Data

Excerpt:

Surprise! That exact politically-correct green agenda is robustly being carried out by NOAA's "scientists" as seen below.


The above record of temperature change over the four months since July 2011, by NOAA & NCDC personnel, is definitely not random. There is a significant man-made pattern to the cooling and warming changes.

This is just more denier crap. You claimed that NASA and NOAA had stated their data was fake. Where is such a statement jc? FROM THEM. Statements that they have made adjustments and corrections to the data are not statements from them that their data is "fake". Apparently, you're still a liar.
oh BTW, even you could easily look up the information on the WWW like I do and find the articles and the papers, and yet you continue to publish their crap data graphs. And the IPCC acknowledged the pause you claim didn't happen. why? For the sake of the OP, Bill Nye is a fraud.
 

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