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If the black support Obama got doesn't prove it to you - you are an obamabot!
Hey I got an idea, how about everyone becoming American, and ciculating them dollars based on the character of the establishment and people running that establishment, and this whether they are black, white, brown, green or what ever, just as long as they are American, and they are good Americans ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????What is race baiting really ? Define that for me if you will, and maybe give some examples if you will also.... Thanks
I will preface this response which I will address ONE TIME regarding what "I consider to be race-baiting", by stating that I will be the first to acknowledge that there are definately alarming trends relating to crime, lack of education, and absence of role models in way too many black households in this country,
If you recall, when I first started posting here, I clearly stated that a significant part of that issue is that the civil rights movement was a lost cause, because economic empowerment through self reliance was not the foundation of the movement.
Integrating and being intimately friendly with a majority who has a history of monetary capitalizing on spreading a universal message that you are inferior, is an invitation to fail.
The foundation of the movement was to "fix the segregation issue" and all will turn out fine.
Bullshit.
So here we are. Segregation (in a legal sense) has been abolished, and now the black population statistically has more single parent households, a higher incarceration rate, and is less unified than in decades past.
My grandparents and parents lived through Jim Crow segregation, and I am old enough to recall the Civil Rights movement vividly.
My elders would often tell me"
"Abolishing segregation took an enormous toll on our people. because our pride and trust in each other, and unity was lost. All that we previously had in a hostile land was each other, and the strength that we gained by being united was marginalized and dismantled when we lost the foundation of our purpose for unity. Our unity in most cases, guaranteed our survival, and the worst tradgedy of all is that way too many black owned businesses ended up failing because integration was misinterpreted as an extention of friendship and equality, instead of an opportunity to bring what you had to the table. That is what has crippled the black population. Too trusting and ill equipped to compete in a dog eat dog capitalist society.
When I started posting here, and posted in favor of economic development, retaining and recirculating black dollars within black communties which builds self reliance within the black population you were one of the first to cry "Racist"!!!!!!
LMBAO!
And what is so amusing about that is that every other ethnicity who chooses come to America, particularly Asians and Hispanics, follow the course of empowering themselves, creating their own wealth, and recirculating and sharing that wealth within their own communities which creates generational wealth.
When Italians arrived from Italy and Jews fled Nazi Germany, they came to America and followed the same business model for success.
Now, for your answer, and will only say it once. What do I consider "Race Baiting?????????"
When a certain group of trolls here post only parts of extreme right wing, often racist talking points and once in great while MIGHT post an obvious statistic only as a means to glorify themselves through the accident of being born "non-black".
When I see those who cannot, inspite of tremendous effort and numerous edits, type an intelligent statement or spell a word properly, rail on about how "blacks piss them off", and how "blacks want free stuff"...whatever that moronic statement means.
Those type of mentally crippled, brain dead imbeciles are not interested in any meaningful dialouge.
They are only posting half truths many times without really understanding what they are posting.Those that I speak of in all probablity represent the bottom rung of the ethnic group that they are a part of both academically, and economically, and therefore would be an absolute waste as far as engaging in any real exchange of ideas on what can be done to improve the condition of ANY ethnic group in the country.
When I read the same old statistics from such bottom feeders, it is obvious that most of them are demoralized, low achievers, who rely on Stormfront and Aryan Supremacist sites who are continuously seeking to recruit yet another generation of guillible Nazi wannabees in training to carry on the tradition of misinformed ignorance and arrogance that is present in most low achievers who have accomplished NOTHING to be proud of PERSONALLY.......a dubious "skill set" that is present in abundance in this forum.
I think the majority of them cannot stand the N****R in themselves.
NEXT.
Your post reeks of you as a black man wanting to empower yourself and those for whom you want as to be other blacks like you, to be as seperate from what WHITEY in this nation finally ?
Keep trying and maybe you will seperate yourself from those in which you accuse here of that which you also are guilty of as well... Just sayin!
If the black support Obama got doesn't prove it to you - you are an obamabot!
When other ethnicities venture to America, do they split up and head in different directions?
Can't that be done as based upon the percentage rates in this election maybe, and then upon asking them who they voted for and why ? Of course it may be that they voted more for Obama in the first round, otherwise being based largely on the significance of him being a blackman, and therefore being more privy to their needs as a community, and this as found in the black communities mindset, of him knowing how to deal with or help the blacks in this nation as base upon their skin color, in which they figured he could relate to better all because of.
Can't that be done as based upon the percentage rates in this election maybe, and then upon asking them who they voted for and why ? Of course it may be that they voted more for Obama in the first round, otherwise being based largely on the significance of him being a blackman, and therefore being more privy to their needs as a community, and this as found in the black communities mindset, of him knowing how to deal with or help the blacks in this nation as base upon their skin color, in which they figured he could relate to better all because of.
This ain't about white people - are you that thick? Whites vote politically if you have to see it againIf the black support Obama got doesn't prove it to you - you are an obamabot!Prove it.
So, the white people who voted for obama were voting their color too? I guess they were voting for the white half? Is that how it works, YOU ILLOGICAL MORON?
Like I said, all should become Americans seeing no color or ethnic origins (blind to these things), and this including the ones you have talked about in your post here, where as they or anyone like yourself shouldnot seek to huddle or group together in a quest to become seperate in your persons or groups, and with your money and etc. but to instead just be or become Americans and/or Americans United & sharing the wealth based upon the incentive system as is earned in America.Hey I got an idea, how about everyone becoming American, and ciculating them dollars based on the character of the establishment and people running that establishment, and this whether they are black, white, brown, green or what ever, just as long as they are American, and they are good Americans ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????I will preface this response which I will address ONE TIME regarding what "I consider to be race-baiting", by stating that I will be the first to acknowledge that there are definately alarming trends relating to crime, lack of education, and absence of role models in way too many black households in this country,
If you recall, when I first started posting here, I clearly stated that a significant part of that issue is that the civil rights movement was a lost cause, because economic empowerment through self reliance was not the foundation of the movement.
Integrating and being intimately friendly with a majority who has a history of monetary capitalizing on spreading a universal message that you are inferior, is an invitation to fail.
The foundation of the movement was to "fix the segregation issue" and all will turn out fine.
Bullshit.
So here we are. Segregation (in a legal sense) has been abolished, and now the black population statistically has more single parent households, a higher incarceration rate, and is less unified than in decades past.
My grandparents and parents lived through Jim Crow segregation, and I am old enough to recall the Civil Rights movement vividly.
My elders would often tell me"
"Abolishing segregation took an enormous toll on our people. because our pride and trust in each other, and unity was lost. All that we previously had in a hostile land was each other, and the strength that we gained by being united was marginalized and dismantled when we lost the foundation of our purpose for unity. Our unity in most cases, guaranteed our survival, and the worst tradgedy of all is that way too many black owned businesses ended up failing because integration was misinterpreted as an extention of friendship and equality, instead of an opportunity to bring what you had to the table. That is what has crippled the black population. Too trusting and ill equipped to compete in a dog eat dog capitalist society.
When I started posting here, and posted in favor of economic development, retaining and recirculating black dollars within black communties which builds self reliance within the black population you were one of the first to cry "Racist"!!!!!!
LMBAO!
And what is so amusing about that is that every other ethnicity who chooses come to America, particularly Asians and Hispanics, follow the course of empowering themselves, creating their own wealth, and recirculating and sharing that wealth within their own communities which creates generational wealth.
When Italians arrived from Italy and Jews fled Nazi Germany, they came to America and followed the same business model for success.
Now, for your answer, and will only say it once. What do I consider "Race Baiting?????????"
When a certain group of trolls here post only parts of extreme right wing, often racist talking points and once in great while MIGHT post an obvious statistic only as a means to glorify themselves through the accident of being born "non-black".
When I see those who cannot, inspite of tremendous effort and numerous edits, type an intelligent statement or spell a word properly, rail on about how "blacks piss them off", and how "blacks want free stuff"...whatever that moronic statement means.
Those type of mentally crippled, brain dead imbeciles are not interested in any meaningful dialouge.
They are only posting half truths many times without really understanding what they are posting.Those that I speak of in all probablity represent the bottom rung of the ethnic group that they are a part of both academically, and economically, and therefore would be an absolute waste as far as engaging in any real exchange of ideas on what can be done to improve the condition of ANY ethnic group in the country.
When I read the same old statistics from such bottom feeders, it is obvious that most of them are demoralized, low achievers, who rely on Stormfront and Aryan Supremacist sites who are continuously seeking to recruit yet another generation of guillible Nazi wannabees in training to carry on the tradition of misinformed ignorance and arrogance that is present in most low achievers who have accomplished NOTHING to be proud of PERSONALLY.......a dubious "skill set" that is present in abundance in this forum.
I think the majority of them cannot stand the N****R in themselves.
NEXT.
Your post reeks of you as a black man wanting to empower yourself and those for whom you want as to be other blacks like you, to be as seperate from what WHITEY in this nation finally ?
Keep trying and maybe you will seperate yourself from those in which you accuse here of that which you also are guilty of as well... Just sayin!
No, you are wrong. I am not advocating a separatist nation as you seem so determined to come to the conclusion that I am.
If you and some of the "others" here took the time to really dissect what I am saying, my belief is clear.
Black Americans are soley respsonsible for reforming black Americans.
Collective ethnic pride and has been diluted and lost in the process of assimilation.
When other ethnicities venture to America, do they split up and head in different directions?
No, they work as a unit. In families, and in communities to build generational wealth.
Immigrants throughout history have done it, and since blacks came here under different circumstances, it is necessary to BACKTRACK and do what should have been done when the fork in the road and choice between integration and self reliance through self empowerment presented itself during the civil rights era.
There are numerous Asian owned banks, mortgage brokerage businesses, investment firms etc...that are Asian funded and Asian owned on nearly every block in the community that I live in in Southern California.
I know quite a few of them personally, personally enough that I have even been asked by some neighbors who have come to this country and started businesses that have thrived:
"Why haven't BLACK citizens done the same thing? There is money to be made here"
And when I drive past their office parks, and their banks, there is one common denominator...they work TOGETHER, and they KEEP THE RESOURCES IN THEIR COMMUNITIES.
Now, answer this question, does that make THEM racist?
In a capitalist economy, what earns respect as well as grants access is monetary wealth. Nothing more and nothing less.
You should know that. Or is YOUR problem that YOU have an issue with black people who do?
This ain't about white people - are you that thick? Whites vote politically if you have to see it againIf the black support Obama got doesn't prove it to you - you are an obamabot!
So, the white people who voted for obama were voting their color too? I guess they were voting for the white half? Is that how it works, YOU ILLOGICAL MORON?This is about black racism - substanciated by the fact that they overwhelmingly voted their skin color even when their was a white candidate who championed their issues - free shit!
You write with your ideological emotions - try the mathmatical perspective; 1+1 really does equal 2 !!!
I think that it has already been covered as to why people think that they always vote democrat, especially when there wasn't a black canidate to vote for prior to or during the past Presidential elections, but then came along Obama who was running for Prez, where as in this situation many things were revealed as to what or how blacks were thinking, and how they had been thinking once this historical event came about for them. Now once a person or people open their mouths, it is hard for them to counter someone who uses their own words as were spoken against them.This ain't about white people - are you that thick? Whites vote politically if you have to see it againSo, the white people who voted for obama were voting their color too? I guess they were voting for the white half? Is that how it works, YOU ILLOGICAL MORON?This is about black racism - substanciated by the fact that they overwhelmingly voted their skin color even when their was a white candidate who championed their issues - free shit!
You write with your ideological emotions - try the mathmatical perspective; 1+1 really does equal 2 !!!
So, 'whites' vote politically, but 'blacks,' who for a long time have tended to vote overwhelmingly democrat, aren't voting politically but racially?You racists are hilariously stupid.
Oh, and what exactly are MY "ideological emotions"? Please elaborate.
What I WILL tell you is this: You obviously cannot read or comprehend, and it is not incumbent upon me to fix that issue.
That aside, you have also strengthened MY opinion that this country would be waaaaaay better off if Texas does secede from the Union.
NEXT
I can read and comprehend quite well. But I didn't really expect a rebuttal from you. I understand how diffcult it must be for you to deny the truth.
No, you CANNOT read and comprehend at the level of the "average" adult who posts here.
I never denied any truth. I stated very clearly that I am alarmed by increasing trends in crime and single parent households in black communities, and only the black population can fix the issue. Just as I have stated before.
So go ahead and deflect the issue and make your feeble insults like a good little victim.
There were no insults here. I stated the obvious. Your state is pursuing secession...and I sincerely hope they are successful, America will be much better off.
Anyway, YOU KNOW good and well that the only reason you even responded to what I posted in the first place was as I originally stated.....some of you cant stand the N****R in yourselves.
Which is why the majority of what you post about or answer has to do with WHAT?????......."The black population". Which makes YOU the victim of your own "bogeyman"
Now there is some "truth" for you.
LMBAO!
Like I said, all should become Americans seeing no color or ethnic origins (blind to these things), and this including the ones you have talked about in your post here, where as they or anyone like yourself shouldnot seek to huddle or group together in a quest to become seperate in your persons or groups, and with your money and etc. but to instead just be or become Americans and/or Americans United & sharing the wealth based upon the incentive system as is earned in America.Hey I got an idea, how about everyone becoming American, and ciculating them dollars based on the character of the establishment and people running that establishment, and this whether they are black, white, brown, green or what ever, just as long as they are American, and they are good Americans ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Your post reeks of you as a black man wanting to empower yourself and those for whom you want as to be other blacks like you, to be as seperate from what WHITEY in this nation finally ?
Keep trying and maybe you will seperate yourself from those in which you accuse here of that which you also are guilty of as well... Just sayin!
No, you are wrong. I am not advocating a separatist nation as you seem so determined to come to the conclusion that I am.
If you and some of the "others" here took the time to really dissect what I am saying, my belief is clear.
Black Americans are soley respsonsible for reforming black Americans.
Collective ethnic pride and has been diluted and lost in the process of assimilation.
When other ethnicities venture to America, do they split up and head in different directions?
No, they work as a unit. In families, and in communities to build generational wealth.
Immigrants throughout history have done it, and since blacks came here under different circumstances, it is necessary to BACKTRACK and do what should have been done when the fork in the road and choice between integration and self reliance through self empowerment presented itself during the civil rights era.
There are numerous Asian owned banks, mortgage brokerage businesses, investment firms etc...that are Asian funded and Asian owned on nearly every block in the community that I live in in Southern California.
I know quite a few of them personally, personally enough that I have even been asked by some neighbors who have come to this country and started businesses that have thrived:
"Why haven't BLACK citizens done the same thing? There is money to be made here"
And when I drive past their office parks, and their banks, there is one common denominator...they work TOGETHER, and they KEEP THE RESOURCES IN THEIR COMMUNITIES.
Now, answer this question, does that make THEM racist?
In a capitalist economy, what earns respect as well as grants access is monetary wealth. Nothing more and nothing less.
You should know that. Or is YOUR problem that YOU have an issue with black people who do?
How ignorant can the American people be, that this is and should finally somehow be understood in this nation, but what we are seing here is a want sorley to seperate, and this by groups who want to seperate from whitey in this nation someday or to get themselves free from white influence or white power where it exist through out this nation. I mean how else are we to interpret these writings ?
I can read and comprehend quite well. But I didn't really expect a rebuttal from you. I understand how diffcult it must be for you to deny the truth.
No, you CANNOT read and comprehend at the level of the "average" adult who posts here.
I never denied any truth. I stated very clearly that I am alarmed by increasing trends in crime and single parent households in black communities, and only the black population can fix the issue. Just as I have stated before.
So go ahead and deflect the issue and make your feeble insults like a good little victim.
There were no insults here. I stated the obvious. Your state is pursuing secession...and I sincerely hope they are successful, America will be much better off.
Anyway, YOU KNOW good and well that the only reason you even responded to what I posted in the first place was as I originally stated.....some of you cant stand the N****R in yourselves.
Which is why the majority of what you post about or answer has to do with WHAT?????......."The black population". Which makes YOU the victim of your own "bogeyman"
Now there is some "truth" for you.
LMBAO!
Yes you stated the obvious about how most blacks feel then you denied it was a "blame whitey" rant.
As for posting about "the black population", this is a RACE RELATIONS thread you dim-witted fool.
Face it, blacks have been playing the victim for a long time and it will continue because they, for the most part cannot accept personal responibility.
Trust me, there is not an ounce of ****** in me, so stop projecting.
There were no insults here. I stated the obvious. Your state is pursuing secession...and I sincerely hope they are successful, America will be much better off.
Anyway, YOU KNOW good and well that the only reason you even responded to what I posted in the first place was as I originally stated.....some of you cant stand the N****R in yourselves.
Which is why the majority of what you post about or answer has to do with WHAT?????......."The black population". Which makes YOU the victim of your own "bogeyman"
Now there is some "truth" for you.
LMBAO!
Yes you stated the obvious about how most blacks feel then you denied it was a "blame whitey" rant.
As for posting about "the black population", this is a RACE RELATIONS thread you dim-witted fool.
Face it, blacks have been playing the victim for a long time and it will continue because they, for the most part cannot accept personal responibility.
Trust me, there is not an ounce of ****** in me, so stop projecting.
But you're full to the brim with 'stupid asshole.'
Yes you stated the obvious about how most blacks feel then you denied it was a "blame whitey" rant.
Simply because it was not, you rebel flag waving imbecile
As for posting about "the black population", this is a RACE RELATIONS thread you dim-witted fool.
LOL! They world is not just black and white, you ignorant jerkoff... Or did you not realize that?
Face it, blacks have been playing the victim for a long time and it will continue because they, for the most part cannot accept personal responibility.
And as I stated stupid, NO ONE except blacks can improve the current conditions that plaugue black communities
.Trust me, there is not an ounce of ****** in me, so stop projecting.
There is abundance of "******" in you..ignorant comes to mind.
But you're full to the brim with 'stupid asshole.'
Typical that some southern inbred redneck would take offense at what I stated. No surprise there and LMBAO at your arrogant outrage.
The internet toughie strikes again. smh
Yes you stated the obvious about how most blacks feel then you denied it was a "blame whitey" rant.
As for posting about "the black population", this is a RACE RELATIONS thread you dim-witted fool.
Face it, blacks have been playing the victim for a long time and it will continue because they, for the most part cannot accept personal responibility.
Trust me, there is not an ounce of ****** in me, so stop projecting.
But you're full to the brim with 'stupid asshole.'
The internet toughie strikes again. smh
There is abundance of "******" in you..ignorant comes to mind.
But you're full to the brim with 'stupid asshole.'
Typical that some southern inbred redneck would take offense at what I stated. No surprise there and LMBAO at your arrogant outrage.
The internet toughie strikes again. smh
Yep........I see you finally looked in the mirror. It's about time.
But you're full to the brim with 'stupid asshole.'
The internet toughie strikes again. smh
You really should take the word "logic" out of your screen name. You don't know the first thing about it, and seem to be incapable of learning.
There is no way to have an honest discussion about race until the black community sheds themselves of the chips on their shoulders and takes responsibility for their own actions.