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would that sentiment hold if the person sitting in front of you was an American citizen who you believed had information that might save the life of one of your family members?
No, I believe that only holds to Islamic people!..
I cannot speak for everyone. If Mcveigh was caught and had information that could stop the OKC bombing. My family members or yours. I would do the same to him. You are "cuckoo" if you would not.
No, I believe that only holds to Islamic people!
I cannot speak for everyone. If Mcveigh was caught and had information that could stop the OKC bombing. My family members or yours. I would do the same to him. You are "cuckoo" if you would not.
thankfully, our constitution prevents sadists like you from doing so.
No, I believe that only holds to Islamic people!
I cannot speak for everyone. If Mcveigh was caught and had information that could stop the OKC bombing. My family members or yours. I would do the same to him. You are "cuckoo" if you would not.
And what if someone who has the same sentiments you do thought (erroneously) that YOU had evidence to save their family. Would you be ok with them not believing your pleas of innocence and torturing you?
Oh that's cute!..The ultimate sign of MB cowardice. Post a quote out of context.Am I actually hearing you state that there was no evidence of torture at Abu Ghraib?And where's the evidence of torture?Abu Ghraib....I believe there were....pictures....Candid Pictures.
What you had was a bunch of National Guard troops in an obviously poorly supervised unit acting like drunken' frat boys. Too include the lil' lesbian freak.
Still, no evidence they tortured anybody. They were moron's, that's about it!
Once again, epic fail from our resident officer envier!:
But hey, I mentally abuse innocent children so, I would have fit right in!
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"I can torture who ever I please" - alleged Military Veteran Wicked Jester 2/23/10
I cannot speak for everyone. If Mcveigh was caught and had information that could stop the OKC bombing. My family members or yours. I would do the same to him. You are "cuckoo" if you would not.
thankfully, our constitution prevents sadists like you from doing so.
You would let all those people die. You call me a sadist? Our laws are to protect the innocent. Not help mass murderers.
I cannot speak for everyone. If Mcveigh was caught and had information that could stop the OKC bombing. My family members or yours. I would do the same to him. You are "cuckoo" if you would not.
And what if someone who has the same sentiments you do thought (erroneously) that YOU had evidence to save their family. Would you be ok with them not believing your pleas of innocence and torturing you?
Bumping this question for Walt.
I seriously need to ask him if he knows of any lil' girls in the neighborhood who might be down for some serious lesbo action!
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"I can torture who ever I please" - alleged Military Veteran Wicked Jester 2/23/10
Oh that's cute!..The ultimate sign of MB cowardice. Post a quote out of context.Am I actually hearing you state that there was no evidence of torture at Abu Ghraib?And where's the evidence of torture?
What you had was a bunch of National Guard troops in an obviously poorly supervised unit acting like drunken' frat boys. Too include the lil' lesbian freak.
Still, no evidence they tortured anybody. They were moron's, that's about it!
Once again, epic fail from our resident officer envier!:
But hey, I mentally abuse innocent children so, I would have fit right in!
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"I can torture who ever I please" - alleged Military Veteran Wicked Jester 2/23/10
It would behoove you to watch what you say, ya' perverted lesbian freak. Two can play that game!
BTW, those ignorant part time troops were convicted of abuse. Not torture!
And what if someone who has the same sentiments you do thought (erroneously) that YOU had evidence to save their family. Would you be ok with them not believing your pleas of innocence and torturing you?
Bumping this question for Walt.
I seriously need to ask him if he knows of any lil' girls in the neighborhood who might be down for some serious lesbo action!
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"I can torture who ever I please" - alleged Military Veteran Wicked Jester 2/23/10
That's fucking sick!
Oh that's cute!..The ultimate sign of MB cowardice. Post a quote out of context.Am I actually hearing you state that there was no evidence of torture at Abu Ghraib?And where's the evidence of torture?
What you had was a bunch of National Guard troops in an obviously poorly supervised unit acting like drunken' frat boys. Too include the lil' lesbian freak.
Still, no evidence they tortured anybody. They were moron's, that's about it!
Once again, epic fail from our resident officer envier!:
But hey, I mentally abuse innocent children so, I would have fit right in!
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"I can torture who ever I please" - alleged Military Veteran Wicked Jester 2/23/10
It would behoove you to watch what you say, ya' perverted lesbian freak. Two can play that game!
BTW, those ignorant part time troops were convicted of abuse. Not torture!
Oh that's cute!..The ultimate sign of MB cowardice. Post a quote out of context.Am I actually hearing you state that there was no evidence of torture at Abu Ghraib?
But hey, I mentally abuse innocent children so, I would have fit right in!
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"I can torture who ever I please" - alleged Military Veteran Wicked Jester 2/23/10
It would behoove you to watch what you say, ya' perverted lesbian freak. Two can play that game!
BTW, those ignorant part time troops were convicted of abuse. Not torture!
"Ignorant part time troops"....."convicted of abuse. Not torture!"
I'm not making this stuff up, folks. I apologize for the U.S. military if this kind of garbage actually was in at one time or another. Be satisfied that that possible mistake has since been rectified.
Oh, and did tell ya', I really really like lil' girls?
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"I can torture who ever I please" - alleged Military Veteran Wicked Jester 2/23/10
Posting my quotes out of context? How weak ARE you?Oh that's cute!..The ultimate sign of MB cowardice. Post a quote out of context.Am I actually hearing you state that there was no evidence of torture at Abu Ghraib?
But hey, I mentally abuse innocent children so, I would have fit right in!
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"I can torture who ever I please" - alleged Military Veteran Wicked Jester 2/23/10
It would behoove you to watch what you say, ya' perverted lesbian freak. Two can play that game!
BTW, those ignorant part time troops were convicted of abuse. Not torture!
Altering my posts again? How weak ARE you?
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"I can torture who ever I please" - alleged Military Veteran Wicked Jester 2/23/10
I will admit that I assumed he was an E7 from the Army, however, depending on his age, he very well could have been a shipfitter chief: SFC (E7)
I believe the chevrons in my signature kind of give it away.
plus we've already determined that you don't have the reasoning power to make it to E7 in the Sea Services
I cannot speak for everyone. If Mcveigh was caught and had information that could stop the OKC bombing. My family members or yours. I would do the same to him. You are "cuckoo" if you would not.
And what if someone who has the same sentiments you do thought (erroneously) that YOU had evidence to save their family. Would you be ok with them not believing your pleas of innocence and torturing you?
Bumping this question for Walt.
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"I can torture who ever I please" - alleged Military Veteran Wicked Jester 2/23/10
I cannot speak for everyone. If Mcveigh was caught and had information that could stop the OKC bombing. My family members or yours. I would do the same to him. You are "cuckoo" if you would not.
And what if someone who has the same sentiments you do thought (erroneously) that YOU had evidence to save their family. Would you be ok with them not believing your pleas of innocence and torturing you?
Bumping this question for Walt.
Mcveigh was caught and had information is what I wrote. I should have also added you knew he had the information. Not "erroneously" thinking "maybe" he had information. Someone you knew had information that could save lives. I am not talking about dragging somebody off the street. During last years campaign. Obama said if he had "actionable intelligence", he would go into Pakistan, with or without their permission. All that were there cheered. He would have done this to kill terrorists even though it violated the law. To me that is one of the good things he said.
I would like to see you guys in action. if their was a bomb in your loved ones work place or school and such a person who you knew had information on how to stop it was placed in front of you. If you would do noting. I feel sorry for you.
And what if someone who has the same sentiments you do thought (erroneously) that YOU had evidence to save their family. Would you be ok with them not believing your pleas of innocence and torturing you?
Bumping this question for Walt.
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"I can torture who ever I please" - alleged Military Veteran Wicked Jester 2/23/10
I have a much better question.
Suppose a terrorist has critical intelligence to stop a terrorist attack of a plane into a Los Angeles building and your entire family will be in that building at that time?
All other measures to get the information have failed. In fact, the terrorist when asked about terrorist attacks simply responded "soon you will know". The terrorist is taunting you.
Do you give the okay to waterboard that terrorist to get that information, or do you take the route of I don't want to add any discomfort to the terrorist even though my entire family will now be murdered as a result?
And what if someone who has the same sentiments you do thought (erroneously) that YOU had evidence to save their family. Would you be ok with them not believing your pleas of innocence and torturing you?
Bumping this question for Walt.
Mcveigh was caught and had information is what I wrote. I should have also added you knew he had the information. Not "erroneously" thinking "maybe" he had information. Someone you knew had information that could save lives. I am not talking about dragging somebody off the street. During last years campaign. Obama said if he had "actionable intelligence", he would go into Pakistan, with or without their permission. All that were there cheered. He would have done this to kill terrorists even though it violated the law. To me that is one of the good things he said.
I would like to see you guys in action. if their was a bomb in your loved ones work place or school and such a person who you knew had information on how to stop it was placed in front of you. If you would do noting. I feel sorry for you.
How do you know that every single person that has been waterboarded by our government was NOT "dragged in off the street"?
How do you know that every single time we waterboard someone, we've got the right suspects?
How do you know that every single time we waterboard someone, we get valid info?
How do you know that the waterboarders aren't known liars and misrepresenters like Wicked Jester?
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"I can torture who ever I please" - alleged Military Veteran Wicked Jester 2/23/10
Your logic isn't.
So...since, as you say, there is NO PROOF that waterboarding doesn't work...let's just use it on any suspect for any crime. After all, there's NO PROOF it doesn't work. And it makes YOU feel so gosh darn good also.
I'm sure KSM's interrogators could tell you how well it works and how much info they got from the dirtbag. Far from useless info.
My logic says that if waterboarding will get the info to prevent another 9-11, save American lives and kill the dirtbags then I'm all for it.
Your logic still seems to equate Terrorism with criminal activity. You have apparantly gone back to the pre-9-11 mindset. Thats where we differ big time.
If you want to call waterboarding torture, then feel free. Opinions are like assholes. Everybody's got one. Mine just differs from yours.
If Terrorism is NOT criminal activity, then it is military activity. Do you want those we have captured treated as POWs with NO trial at all?
And the law as shown by Maineman pretty clearly defines waterboarding as torture. We tried and convicted Japanese officers for doing that very thing after WWII.
You still want to play, Dyke?Mcveigh was caught and had information is what I wrote. I should have also added you knew he had the information. Not "erroneously" thinking "maybe" he had information. Someone you knew had information that could save lives. I am not talking about dragging somebody off the street. During last years campaign. Obama said if he had "actionable intelligence", he would go into Pakistan, with or without their permission. All that were there cheered. He would have done this to kill terrorists even though it violated the law. To me that is one of the good things he said.
I would like to see you guys in action. if their was a bomb in your loved ones work place or school and such a person who you knew had information on how to stop it was placed in front of you. If you would do noting. I feel sorry for you.
How do you know that every single person that has been waterboarded by our government was NOT "dragged in off the street"?
How do you know that every single time we waterboard someone, we've got the right suspects?
How do you know that every single time we waterboard someone, we get valid info?
How do you know that the waterboarders aren't known liars and misrepresenters like Wicked Jester?
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"I can torture who ever I please" - alleged Military Veteran Wicked Jester 2/23/10
