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Cool...let's do nothing then.
Finally! A suggestion worth acting on.
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Cool...let's do nothing then.
That earns money ... the opposite of spending money ...
Utilities raising rates when the their cost of power decreases is certainly making wealth. Vendor's selling products to subsidized customers who couldn't otherwise afford it certainly makes wealth. Why do you say it does not?But, where does that money come from? It's not the traditional model of Capitalism where someone creates wealth by taking a low value commodity and, by value-adding, makes it a high value item (iron ore and coal into steel or cotton into haute coiture), or by arbitrage, taking a commodity that is common in one place, transporting it to where it is rare and selling at a profit.
Money from solar panels can only come from two places ...
A) Government diverting taxpayer money from government spending back to private incentive payments to engineer behavior -- OR
B) Utilities raising rates to pass a portion of that money back to consumers who sell them power at wholesale rates.
Neither of those methods actually creates wealth. They are both wealth distribution for social engineering.
This may be true, maybe not, I don't know enough to say, but I'm not sure why it matters. If the sea level rises because of natural or manmade reasons, the sea level still rises and that would spell disaster for many.
As long as they are paying off multi billion dollar lawsuits because of wild fire responsibility, gas pipeline explosions in populated area and chemical pollution of the environment, the cost of the power is not a big concern. Many of these "so called" environmentally conscious states are just going out and purchasing power from coal fired plants outside of their states to make up for the difference.Utilities raising rates when the their cost of power decreases
I was addressing the comment that buying power back from their customers and charging higher rates to pay for it didn't create wealth. It certainly puts more money in the utilitiy's pocket.As long as they are paying off multi billion dollar lawsuits because of wild fire responsibility, gas pipeline explosions in populated area and chemical pollution of the environment, the cost of the power is not a big concern. Many of these "so called" environmentally conscious states are just going out and purchasing power from coal fired plants outside of their states to make up for the difference.
In CA, before I left nine years ago, the utility companies had to pay peak prices for any power that was fed back into the grid.I was addressing the comment that buying power back from their customers and charging higher rates to pay for it didn't create wealth. It certainly puts more money in the utilitiy's pocket.
Alas, not all of us are smart enough to predict what and what won't succeed.Indeed. So spend money on mitigation, not meaningless efforts that can't succeed.
Ever.
Alas, not all of us are smart enough to predict what and what won't succeed.
They’ve predicted zip correctlyAlas, not all of us are smart enough to predict what and what won't succeed.
OK, got an example?We can guarantee that what the government is spending money on now will do nothing except destroy the middle class.
So the trained professionals have predicted zip correctly and you expect anyone to trust your predictions? Interesting.They’ve predicted zip correctly
OK, got an example?
So the trained professionals have predicted zip correctly and you expect anyone to trust your predictions? Interesting.
If Humans can change the Climate ,they can control the weather.Liberals will never accept this study. It provides reasonable doubt to their theorem that humans can change the climate.
For me? Sure. However not everyone agrees with you. The Economist has long advocated a carbon tax as the best way to deal with climate change.Sure, carbon taxes, the go to for any so called climate mitigation causes EVERYTHING to increase in cost, and, because the polluters merely pay already rich bankers to manipula...I mean regulate the carbon credits they get to continue polluting at the same rate.
So, the middle class has ever more onerous costs to just live, the polluters continue polluting at the same rate, and the bankers get richer for taxing the air you breath.
Simple enough for you?
I think the cultist here is you. Checking 20 years worth of projections shows that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has consistently underestimated the pace and impacts of global warmingThe climatologists have a ZERO success rate for their predictions.
And you still demand we bow down to their "wisdom".
Sorry pal, that is religion. Not science.